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In recent times, Glatannia has planned for an invasion force. They plan to invade an ally of mine, Sonic Hero Land.

Reason for the war: Unknown, might be because of past loses and a boost in nations.
Attacker: Bombardment Isles
Defender: Sonic Hero Land and Delta Force

We stick to defence as long as there is a threat. We will not declare war, but are stating this for defence of ourselves and our allies.

Dyne of the Blue Storm has this to say to Hard Rock Beyond: You are a warmongering moron. Peacetalks have already been held between Sonic Hero Land and Bombardment Isles and as far as I know there isn't going to be a war since Bombardment Isles hasn't been planning an attack on Sonic Hero Land for quite a while now. So you can stop sowing the seeds of war now...

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I do not believe I have ever ATTACKED anyone. I added this string because Sonic Hero Land has intel saying there will be an attack. I posted this so there would be a place that it will be shown to other nations. Now, if you don't mind, others, Wateris/Feiden(or however its spelled)/StrongHold/Bombardment Isles is putting a spin on this, so it seems as if I declare war for no reason. Glatannia and his affiliates are always attacking first, then we return the attacks. As I said before, I have never declared war, but Glatannia has declared it on my allies a couple of times, and even on me.

WebBeyond rocks, and "WebUnion" is fake and non-existant!

Also, how are there "peace talks" if there is no war as of yet?

Let's see......nope. There is no sign of any falsehood, or warmongering in Hard Rock Beyond's statment. Everything said is true by Hard Rock Beyond. However, Dyne on the other hand, only half is true. The part that is true is the fact that we have held peace talks. The part that they weren't planning an attack is bull. until recently they were releasing anti-SHL (Sonic Hero Land) propaganda. They were calling SHL "a polluted wastland" as well as "a bunch of idiots and morons." We ignored it, then they started preparing for war. In an effort to trick us into attacking, they sent threatening telegrams to lower members in my region (threatening in game terms, like we will soon invade, nothing against the rules.) We however still didn't attack, but we prepared a defense. We were then accused of declaring war, even though no such thing was done, and they THEN opened up peace talks, not without continuing to claim we declared war. I don't know what the point to this topic is for, since I had no knowledge of it being written ahead of time, but it certainly isn't war mongering.

Thank you for your support, Sonic Hero Land. I hope that it will not come to war, though I will be prepared with a strong defence. If Sonic Hero Land is attacked (by region-crashing or by a formal attack), I will return the attack. However, if I am attacked, I am sure that Sonic Hero Land will do the same as I do for him.

10 million males and 2 million females between the ages of 17 and 21 are being drafted into the army. They will have 10 weeks of training, and will be a reserve force, and stay for 5 years.

2 million males and 250 thousand famales between the ages of 18 and 22 are being drafted into the navy. They will have 1 year of training, and will be deployed onto the carriers. They will be rotated every 6 months, so 1/2 of them will be deployed at a time. They will stay in the service for 8 years depending on age.

200,000 males between 18 and 20 are being drafted into the Navy SF. They will be trained for 2 years, and deployed as necessary. They will be in for 4 years.

10,000 civilian pilots between 20 and 30 are being drafted to fly cargo aircraft. They will be trained for 8 weeks, and will then fly shipping routes. They will stay in the service for 10 to 20 years.

Total cost will be $853,500,000,000 including pay for the duration of their service.

The part that they weren't planning an attack is bull. until recently they were releasing anti-SHL (Sonic Hero Land) propaganda. They were calling SHL "a polluted wastland" as well as "a bunch of idiots and morons."

We took that 'polluted wasteland' thing off our region factbook entry a couple weeks ago. And I don't think the statement "a bunch of idiots and morons" is enough basis to go to war with anyone and the only reason we said it is because you made up G1atannia and Demo_Men then messed around on the Gatesville message boards trying to make us look bad. Then you made the region of Wateris. Besides why would we go to war with you? Your region is so awful at RPing it would be less frustrating to just not go through with it and a regioncrashing invasion would result in you ejecting all invaders from the region. I don't know why this thread was even started because there are no current plans of invasion of your region nor has there been for a couple weeks.

We took that 'polluted wasteland' thing off our region factbook entry a couple weeks ago. And I don't think the statement "a bunch of idiots and morons" is enough basis to go to war with anyone and the only reason we said it is because you made up G1atannia and Demo_Men then messed around on the Gatesville message boards trying to make us look bad. Then you made the region of Wateris. Besides why would we go to war with you? Your region is so awful at RPing it would be less frustrating to just not go through with it and a regioncrashing invasion would result in you ejecting all invaders from the region. I don't know why this thread was even started because there are no current plans of invasion of your region nor has there been for a couple weeks.
I dought what you say, Dyne of the Blue Storm. prove it to us... give us access to your boards and fourms, as well as a copy of all telegrams you send and recieve. If this cannot be done, or you hold back any of them, it is considered proof of your lying.

How could I prove that I took something off my regional factbook entry by a telegram or forum message? You cannot provide any proof I was ever planning to attack you so there. Besides just go to the region called Wateris to see proof of g1atannia and Demo_Men's existence.

I believe that you and the original nations of wateris are faking that so they have a point for a war. I do not believe that is anyone else but some member(s) of Bombardment Isle. Also, by not releasing information, you would be admitting that there is a plan to attack us. We believe that Wateris is just another way of faking a way to attack with a "reason". Besides, I never said you WOULD attack me. I said if I was attacked, I expected my ally, Sonic Hero Land, to defend my, and that I would do the same for him.

Hard Rock Beyond you are wrong.

1)Sonic Tripple Threat told me Luna II made up DeMo_MeN, G1atannia, and Wateris.

2)How by not releasing information is this a plan? We do not have a plan to attack you as Blue Storm has said.

3)LOL, we didnt make Wateris as i already stated. Even if we did, why would we? Its not worth it to go to war with Shl.

4)How do we know that you dont have a plan to attack us?

Hard Rock Beyond you are wrong.

1)Sonic Tripple Threat told me Luna II made up DeMo_MeN, G1atannia, and Wateris.

2)How by not releasing information is this a plan? We do not have a plan to attack you as Blue Storm has said.

3)LOL, we didnt make Wateris as i already stated. Even if we did, why would we? Its not worth it to go to war with Shl.

4)How do we know that you dont have a plan to attack us?
1- When? What proof do you have of that? How do we know that you're not lying?

2- Because Dyne admitted that if he released something from the fourm, we wouldnt kno if anything was missing, meaning there would be secrets!

3- Because, you STILL have quite a bitter rivelary with Sonic Hero Land, as they kicked your region(s)'(s) can in any war you started, so you would think making other believe that we did something we didn't, you had a reason to start a war with all of your allies and getting more of them.

4- Because, we have no secrets, we have no fourm, and our military's money is spent in large part in national defence!

This is extremely funny. you haven't had plans for war 'RECENTLY', only one or two weeks ago, by your standards, apparently one or two weeks need not apply as recently? Further more, I'd like to see proof of me admiting to anything you fabricate to try and get a good reason to go to war. And lastly, you have no right to say my RPing is bad, since Glatannia, Dyne of blue storms puppet, or maybe the other way around, tried to float humvees with 'extra thick tires' across an ocean in an attack! Without a boat! They must still be lost at sea!

Must we forget about these terms? An original post from Glatannia is as follows:

09-05-2004, 5:22 PM #37
Glatannia
Member


Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 160 Oh well, it matters not, if possible I would prefer a peaceful solution. I would like Sonic Triple Threat to approve these terms proposed by the AIS.

1. Sonic Triple Threat agrees that any and all conditions of the previous surrender terms of Glatannia, the original aggressor, have been met, and therefore, Glatannia, is free to live and govern as it sees fit.

2. It is further agreed by Sonic Triple Threat, that neither it nor the Region of Sonic Hero Land, will hold Glatannia in breach of the terms of surrender, so long as Glatannia never enters the region of Sonic Hero Land again.

3. Should Glatannia, or any other nation directly appointed by Glatannia to do so, enter the region of Sonic Hero Land without authorizaion, said intrusion will be deemed an act of unprovoked agression.

4. Glatannia agrees that it will never enter the region of Sonic Hero Land, nor wage war against that region again, unless, openly and unequivically provoked by said region, yet shall attempt to resolve any and all future conflicts, if any, first through diplomatic channels and peaceful attempts, without disparaging in public the good name of Sonic Triple Threat or Sonic Hero Land.

Glatannia agrees to the above terms.

And here's where to find that post: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=326628&page=3&pp=15

Post #37

They have recently advertised in My region, breaking points #2 and #3. They have also planned an unprovoked war, since these terms, as preveiously admited by dyne, breaking point #4. They also had slander on their factbook entry and offsite forum, also admitted by Dyne, which ALSO breaks point #4. We have held our end of the deal however, and kept them free. So now what, Dyne/Glatannia?

1. Sonic Triple Threat agrees that any and all conditions of the previous surrender terms of Glatannia, the original aggressor, have been met, and therefore, Glatannia, is free to live and govern as it sees fit.

2. It is further agreed by Sonic Triple Threat, that neither it nor the Region of Sonic Hero Land, will hold Glatannia in breach of the terms of surrender, so long as Glatannia never enters the region of Sonic Hero Land again.

3. Should Glatannia, or any other nation directly appointed by Glatannia to do so, enter the region of Sonic Hero Land without authorizaion, said intrusion will be deemed an act of unprovoked agression.

4. Glatannia agrees that it will never enter the region of Sonic Hero Land, nor wage war against that region again, unless, openly and unequivically provoked by said region, yet shall attempt to resolve any and all future conflicts, if any, first through diplomatic channels and peaceful attempts, without disparaging in public the good name of Sonic Triple Threat or Sonic Hero Land.

Glatannia agrees to the above terms.

OK let's see here.. It doesn't say I can't advertize does it? And we planned a war, true, but it never says we can't do that as long as we don't ACTUALLY go to war with your region. It also doesn't say we can't "slander" your region as long as we don't do it during "diplomatic channels and peaceful attempts". The "slander" was taken off our factbook entry before peacetalks. And immediately after negotiations were held the slander was taken off the forums as well. You really need to read the terms more carefully. So what now HRB/STT?

NOTE: The only reason we were even planning a war was because of the G1atannia incident, an unprovoked act aimed at humiliating and provoking our region.

And lastly, you have no right to say my RPing is bad, since Glatannia, Dyne of blue storms puppet, or maybe the other way around, tried to float humvees with 'extra thick tires' across an ocean in an attack! Without a boat! They must still be lost at sea!

Your RPing isn't bad it's PISS POOR. And I'm not talking about your nation in particular but your region in general. And here's the link to the war show me where I tried to float humvees across an ocean: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=313594.

If you are gonna have a poll, at least make it fair by putting in equal number of nations for each side. Dont just have 2 nations from Bombardment Isles (Blue Storm is a puppet of Glatannia) in it. Put 2 nations in from Sonic Hero Land, or just have 1 option be Sonic Hero Land, and another be Bombardment Isles.

Don't tell him to do that, being unfair and deceitful is in his nature.

4 Because, we have no secrets, we have no fourm, and our military's money is spent in large part in national defence!

No forum, what the hell you talking about? you have one.
http://s6.invisionfree.com/Sonic_Hero_Land/index.php (or just look in SHL's factbook)

Umm.... if you don't notice, I am in Delta Force, not Sonic Hero Land. you asked if I was planning it, and i can't have secrets in the same way as you, such as a fourm.

O, and, I can't change the fourm... there are no options that I see.

I meant for the poll to be awnered by members of Sonic Hero Land, Delta Force, our allies, and anyone who is looking at the topic...

Okay, since I am an ally, I need to say something.

I am not part of Sonic Hero Land anymore, but I still have an eternal bond. This thing that is happenning: why? You all are bickering against eachother, why not say this: "We will leave you alone if you leave me alone". Basically, who cares if we post something nasty about eachother? It is just like name-calling. Just ignore it. However, if someone actually declares war (not threatening, but actually DECLARING) beat the s*** out of them! So let us go back to peace. Also, as Bazooka Romano, a military super-power, and with the bond that I share with Sonic Hero Land, I will destroy whoever defies my friends and my old region.

One other part to this is that I know I will be quoted and threatened, and all that other great stuff, but why do we have to do that? Glatannia and Dyne of Blue Storm, don't you have a civil war to attend to? Leave us alone. Hard Rock Beyond, leave them alone. Sonic Triple Threat, leave them alone. If this thread keeps going on and on, there is fault on both sides. Let there be peace. With all this anger and hate that is in here, I could give Satan a feast.

Please look at these words and think about what I say.

Bazooka Romano

Dude, this occured so long ago, it's obsolete...