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Credonia To Increase Stockpile Of Strategic Weapons

Credonia
29-08-2004, 01:24
Today in a press conference, President Sutton announced that starting tomorrow, Credonia will begin production of Theatre missiles, ICBM's, strategic long range bombers, and nuclear missile ballistic submarines. The increase of weapons comes as Credonia is poising to provide additional strategic protection to its friends and allies worldwide.

The following figures were released pertaining to the increase of weapons:
40,000 ICBM launched Nuclear warheads (Will double current figure of 40,000+)
40,000 ICBM launched biological and chemical warheads (combined) (Will double current figure of 40,000+)
300 B-2 Spirit stealth bombers
500 B-52 Stratofortress strategic bombers
200 B-1B Lancer Strategic Bombers
100 SSBN class submarines (# of warheads to vary with each class)
2,000 Theatre Missile systems

It is unclear when this weapons buildup will be complete, but it is guaranteed to begin as the continental congress approved this action by a vote of 135-42. More information to be released soon.
Assington
29-08-2004, 01:32
President Calis of Assington commends the actions of President Sutton and was quoted as saying:

Explosions are good, hence toys that make big explosions are good.
Red Tide2
29-08-2004, 01:35
OOC:Hatte too brake it too yeah... but Chem and Bio weapons on ICBMs is not a good idea... the heat from reentry would kill the bacteria of bio weapons and burn up chemical weapons. I suggest you use IRBMs instead. You could remove the bio and chem warheads from your ICBMs then use those same ICBMs for nuclear weapons while building IRBMs
Ganurath
29-08-2004, 01:41
The Idealist, Liberational, and Civilist Parties all condemn Credonia's rapid stockpiling of WMDs.
I: Such massive buildup off wantonly destructive weapons is a danger to the entire planet and should not take place.
L: Any attempt to claim such buildup is defensive is outright ridiculous. Such advancement of nuclear and chemical weapons is a danger to the entire world, including not only neutral factions near the target, but any nation near the target, the area of 'near' increasing over time.
C: Such action will inevitably result in a feror within your nation, and we of the Ganurathi Civilist Party highly doubt you are willing to risk civil chaos simply to intimidate your foes with potentially self destructive machinations.
The Island of Rose
29-08-2004, 01:51
The Idealist, Liberational, and Civilist Parties all condemn Credonia's rapid stockpiling of WMDs.
I: Such massive buildup off wantonly destructive weapons is a danger to the entire planet and should not take place.
L: Any attempt to claim such buildup is defensive is outright ridiculous. Such advancement of nuclear and chemical weapons is a danger to the entire world, including not only neutral factions near the target, but any nation near the target, the area of 'near' increasing over time.
C: Such action will inevitably result in a feror within your nation, and we of the Ganurathi Civilist Party highly doubt you are willing to risk civil chaos simply to intimidate your foes with potentially self destructive machinations.

Official Statement from The Soviet Democratic Empire of The Island of Rose:

And that's because we can destroy you. We applaud Credonia for the action and hope for good things in the future. Have fun with your nukes... of DOOM.
-Minister of War: General Alexander Roska
Credonia
29-08-2004, 13:25
Credonia thanks Assington and TIOR for their support.

To the nation of Ganurath, quiet little one. Just because we develop such weapons, does not mean they are not for defensive purposes. Credonia does not believe in first strikes, but we do have missiles capable of first strikes.

The Credonian people confide in the Credonian government to use these weapons responsibly, and we have done so since the day we made our first WMD. And for the record, Credonia has NEVER used a nuclear or biochemical weapon in war, NEVER, and we dont see a use of them in the future.

OOC: Red Tide- Im an expert in missiles, warheads, and rockets in general. Ive studied them for years. To say that they are ineffective is rediculous. You can easily design a warhead that will keep the agents inside, at a relativly cool temperature during entry interface and the entire reentry process.
Der Angst
29-08-2004, 13:44
OOC: Red Tide- Im an expert in missiles, warheads, and rockets in general. Ive studied them for years. To say that they are ineffective is rediculous. You can easily design a warhead that will keep the agents inside, at a relativly cool temperature during entry interface and the entire reentry process.

Care to explain how the damage done by (comparably poor chemical, and excessively poor biological) warheads would, uh... exceed the costs of building a ground to orbit- capable (yes, an ICBM) missile/ rocket?

Since, ya'know, neither has even nearly the same destructive cababilities nuclear weapons have...
Holy panooly
29-08-2004, 13:48
Wow Credonia... You condemn the sales of all WMD's and you have over 40.000 of them? Hypocrite
Hadula
29-08-2004, 13:51
Wow Credonia... You condemn the sales of all WMD's and you have over 40.000 of them? Hypocrite
"I concur."
- Dominus Pele Kawau
Stevid
29-08-2004, 14:42
Holy Panooly has got a good point there, you've played down WMD in the past yet you building them yourself.

You also talk about your nuclear SSBN's and recently said you've got a new way on how to deliver missiles to targets. And I haven't heard you using your missiles on anyone recently.

So why increase the stockpile.
Jeruselem
29-08-2004, 14:55
When asked about the secret deployment of strategic weapons after the matter was raised about Credonia's announcement, the Jeruselem government said it reserved the right to arm itself with biological/chemical/nuclear strategic weapons to defend the nation from external or internal threat, but would not detail the numbers of these weapons.
Axis Nova
29-08-2004, 15:41
OOC: If you're spreading a bioweapon, an ICBM is an excellent choice to do so since it's so difficult to intercept.

And if humans can launch men into space and retrieve them safely, a can full of germs shouldn't be any harder.
Credonia
29-08-2004, 16:19
Key word people, THE PAST. I condemned the sale and mass production of WMD's in the past, but things have changed. Dont give me that crap about what I said in the past. Hec, Credonia sells nuclear missiles (check my storefront directory).

Whatever was said in the past, no long holds any merit now, the PRESENT and FUTURE.


Secondly Stevid, your right, in fact ive never used my missiles on anyone, sooner or later i will, but the time hasnt arrived for that yet. ;)
Red Tide2
29-08-2004, 16:46
OOC:Germs are more suspectible too heat then humans.
Generic empire
29-08-2004, 16:53
Official Imperial Statement

Generia commends you on your successful proliferation of nuclear, chemical, and biological arms. It is high time someone considered the dangers of the modern world, and we are sure that these weapons will prove useful in maintaining security.
Praetonia
29-08-2004, 16:59
OOC:Germs are more suspectible too heat then humans.
He is indeed right. Also the shuttles were parachuted into the oceans, not slammed into the ground at mach 20+.
Credonia
30-08-2004, 00:59
OOC: Praetonia, do you not remember that im the HEAD DIRECTOR of the VUSSP with links to tons of people in nasa who study similar things? Just because something is reentering doesnt mean it cant be kept cool, otherwise the astronauts in the shuttle wouldnt wear their regular pressure suits on reentry. WHo says you cant build in an internal cooling system (low cost) to keep the agents/astronauts cool. If you didnt, then they would cook. Do you realize how hot it gets on the outside of the craft on reentry?

BTW, the shuttles ur talking about are actually called SRB's or Solid Rocket Boosters...designed for reentry and reuse. Gotta keep the insides cool too otherwise the motors and everything else would melt ;)
Morathania
30-08-2004, 01:12
We support Credonia is his increasing of his Strategic stockpiles. We hope that these weapons are used wisely. These new nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and delivery systems will help to defend Credonia and his allies from the attacks of Rogue Nations and terrorist states.
-Official Response from Leonard George, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Credonia
30-08-2004, 01:18
Morathania, Credonia thanks you for your support. You have our sworn word that these weapons WILL be used in the defense of Credodnia and her allies and for that reason only.

OOC: wheres ur spport praetonia..ur the one with the obcession with nukes lol, and we all know its a fantasy of urs to nuke creddy :P isnt it?
Scandavian States
30-08-2004, 02:07
[Just a note, the Soviets had ICBM warhead filled with Smallpox that would be used after the initial nuclear exchange had caused the healthcare system to break down. Also, VX can be used in ICBMs because it won't boil off during re-entry. So yes, bio/chem weapons can be used to great effect when mated with ICBMs, just so long as that is done intelligently.]
Gilabad
30-08-2004, 02:07
I highly protest this act of gloating. This is just another threat of credonia's to take over the world!! Credonia must stop this immediately.
Credonia
30-08-2004, 22:25
Using nukes to take over the world is foolish, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that.
Adaptus Astrates
27-09-2004, 20:31
"I concur."
- Dominus Pele Kawau

I also concur.
Adaptus Astrates
27-09-2004, 20:38
Using nukes to take over the world is foolish, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that.

Well that rules you out then credonia.
Credonia
28-09-2004, 16:44
not necessarily, ive never used a nuke...EVER. DOnt have any plans to either
Ozymandias IV
07-10-2004, 19:01
The Republic of Ozymandias IV officially condemns Credonia's plans to increase its stockpile of WMDs.

We are saddened to see that after all this time, the Sutton regime continues in its policy of threats, abuse and destabilization.

We call upon all thoughtful nations to denounce Credonia's madness and urge for a voluntary boycott of Credonian products on the world market.

- Umberto IV, SecInfo
Credonia
08-10-2004, 00:25
Credonia threatens no one. Every nation has the right to its self defense. Nations are continuing to build and stockpile nuclear weapons, yet you arent as quick to jump on them as you jump on us. How hypocritical is that? If you really want to stop the stockpiling of nuclear weapons, deal with nations that actually present a threat to the peace and tranquility and prosperity of the world. You know just as well as I do that Credonia poses no such threat and never has. We have NEVER, NEVER, used a nuclear weapon as a first strike weapon, nor will we do so unless we see a clear and present and most imminent threat to the national security of Credonia, its allies, and the world.
Jaxusism
08-10-2004, 00:28
Credonia I would just like to inform you that your long-time long-ago ally, Jaxusism, is back and I would like to inform you that we would like to resume relations with your nation. We support you in your stockpiling of strategic weapons and we know you will not use them in a harmful manner.

[Remember me? ;) ]
Credonia
09-10-2004, 03:47
Credonia welcomes continued relations with our old ally. Welcome back, and thank you for your support in our decision to protect ourselves from the evil doers of this world who wish to proliferate nuclear weapons to use for evil destructive reasons.
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09-10-2004, 04:20
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Fruity Loops
09-10-2004, 04:24
I support Credonia in his stockpiles of WMD's,what is wrong with that?
Credonia
10-10-2004, 00:40
Credonia wishes to have no relations with Communist Louisiana, furthermore, we will not buy our weapons from you, supporting you and your nation. Credonia has the capability and the know-how to build its own.
Eredron
10-10-2004, 00:49
The Republic of Eredron, hesitant against speaking out against it's past ally of Credonia, nevertheless wishes to express its belief that the magnitude at which
nations are currently stockpiling weapons of mass destruction poses a threat of a global scale, and endangers the lives of billions.
Gilabad
14-10-2004, 04:16
In the past Credonia has condemed the use of WMDs and terrorism. They call other people terrorists, the only terrorist around here is Credonia. This is just an act of gloating so they can try to police the world!
Credonia
16-10-2004, 20:22
How do you get stockpiling nuclear weapons for legitimate self defense an act of trying to "police the world" as you so eloquently state.
Credonia
16-10-2004, 20:23
The Republic of Eredron, hesitant against speaking out against it's past ally of Credonia, nevertheless wishes to express its belief that the magnitude at which
nations are currently stockpiling weapons of mass destruction poses a threat of a global scale, and endangers the lives of billions.


Credonia recognizes and duly notes the concern of your government, but you know as well as we do that we wont use weapons unless pushed to that point, furthermore, our proliferations of weapons poses little to no threat to anyone who doesnt try to "strong-arm" us with theirs.
Tomzilla
16-10-2004, 20:26
The government of Tomzilla sees nothing wrong with getting even more nuclear weapons. If were going to leave this world, might as well go out with a bang.
Gilabad
18-10-2004, 03:23
This is just a threat so that credonia can show off it's nuclear capability to scare other nations into obeying everything it says. That's how.