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I have a lot of time on my hands, but I don't quite understand what I do. Do I find out which nations should be blacklisted, and let in ones that shouldn't?

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I have a lot of time on my hands, but I don't quite understand what I do. Do I find out which nations should be blacklisted, and let in ones that shouldn't?
you do prety much what I've been doing looking at there Nation profile then checking there history with The Members of the alliance to make sure there wont be a major conflict between 2 members. and if they pass those 2 things then you say eather yes or no still takes 2 members now to make there member ship official. So for a new menber i would put for example eather of these

For a Accepted Membership: "Your nation is found without Reason to be not accepted into the Alliance there fore your Nation has My vote for a Yes on your Request to join"

For a Declined Membership: "We are sorry but your nation Falls in the Catagory of ill manered or is in the Wrong books of to many of our members. So My vote Would have to be a No. I sugest you Try to build your rep Back up with the members of the alliance before you request to join again."

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OOC:??? Erinin is not to my knowledge in this alliance.
OOC:No I am not Borman, I head the Ancient Order of Hibernian(AOH) Alliance.
I applied for the entire Alliance to join with the TBA, Dailey said I had to get an OK, from each member, they are apparently posting at their leisure. Though they have all agreed with me. I believe I am waiting on two more Nations. I will have to read through the thread and see who all has posted(there are only six of us).

OOC:No I am not Borman, I head the Ancient Order of Hibernian(AOH) Alliance.
I applied for the entire Alliance to join with the TBA, Dailey said I had to get an OK, from each member, they are apparently posting at their leisure. Though they have all agreed with me. I believe I am waiting on two more Nations. I will have to read through the thread and see who all has posted(there are only six of us).
ok Amagority Has said yes to AOH joining the TBA alliance so Ya your alliance is acepted.

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OOC:Well, for the record, I agree with Erinin moving AOH into TBA, thaats five of six.

OOC:now were was that list of AOH members? so i can copy past it. hahahahaha to many replies in this topic.

Doomingsland, Borman Empire and Holy Paradise instigated a conflict between them and myself, as well as some other nations of Antarctica. I expect them to be disciplined, otherwise, this alliance is a fraud.

The AOH is small group, comprised of only six nations:
Erinin:Founder
FallschrimmJager
Temujinn
Bedou
Skibereen
MetroDetroit

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There you go.

Doomingsland, Borman Empire and Holy Paradise instigated a conflict between them and myself, as well as some other nations of Antarctica. I expect them to be disciplined, otherwise, this alliance is a fraud.

What are you taling about? We had a cold war. Besides holy paradise flying in some planes and YOU shooting them down there was no conflict.

Youve lost and any all respect i had for you.

Youve lost and and all respect i had for you.

((OOC: *Ahem* That's my line.))

What are you taling about? We had a cold war. Besides holy paradise flying in some planes and YOU shooting them down there was no conflict.

Youve lost and and all respect i had for you.

I seem to recall you guys spying on our country, detonating explosives on our territory and continually massing forces and disregarding our request to discontinue flying planes in our airspace.

I've lost all respect I had for you. I couldn't understand what you were trying to say on that last line.

I see no reason why AOH shouldn't be in the alliance. It has my vote.

I seem to recall you guys spying on our country, detonating explosives on our territory and continually massing forces and disregarding our request to discontinue flying planes in our airspace.

I've lost all respect I had for you. I couldn't understand what you were trying to say on that last line.

My soldiers were in Doomingsland territory. THe only spying was done with planes by Holy Paradise that you shot down. I dont know anyone who detonated explosives on your territory. The only flying of planes was Holy paradise collecting information becuase we expected an invasion.

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I have no problem with Japanese Antartica, in fact we fought together in Korea.

Generia will stand by Borman on this matter. It was Japanese Antarctica who instigated an assault, an assault, mind you, on the aircraft of Holy Paradise, not The Borman Empire.

I have no problem with Japanese Antartica, in fact we fought together in Korea.

Well Doomingsland had aq cold war with him and i came to his aide. Several others joined both sides. I sent 1,200,000 marines to Doomingsland in cae of war. Holy paradise flew spy planes to find out info. THese were shot. THere were no detonating of explosives and the spy planes were the only ones not to stay out. But there spy planes, there supposed to be secret so i presume he thought they would be safe.

Oh, ok. Thanks for getting me up to date :)

Oh, ok. Thanks for getting me up to date :)

welcome

Bump, so what am I minister of?

Bump, so what am I minister of?

I dunno. Bumping is me.

Lets just call it Minister of Acceptence

I guess

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I am the Minister of Death, bwahahahaha! No, actualy I'm the Minister of STRATCOM (you know, with nukes, so, yeah, minister of death...)

I seem to recall you guys spying on our country, detonating explosives on our territory and continually massing forces and disregarding our request to discontinue flying planes in our airspace.

I've lost all respect I had for you. I couldn't understand what you were trying to say on that last line.
You see i was sending my planes home because i had canceled the mission of spying on you because you wanted us to leave.

And thats when you shot them down over your own country.

Doomingsland, Borman Empire and Holy Paradise instigated a conflict between them and myself, as well as some other nations of Antarctica. I expect them to be disciplined, otherwise, this alliance is a fraud.
Official Imperial Statement-

Hahahahahahahahaha...haha...man, that was the best laugh I've had all day. As if the founder would disipline himself, and one of the first members of the thing, and one of his close allies.

Why don't we start a TBA Foerign Legion? That way we'd have a quick response team ready if anything should occour.

Why don't we start a TBA Foerign Legion? That way we'd have a quick response team ready if anything should occour.

I got like 4,000,000 soldiers at home right now. THaqt should be a good response force. But i almsot always have a force of like 50,000 ready.

Why don't we start a TBA Foerign Legion? That way we'd have a quick response team ready if anything should occour.

Sounds good. If we do, I'll contribute 750,000 of my best troops for it.

I'd gladly contribute 50,000 of Inkana's Elite Purple Betets

Borman: 50,000
Roach Busters: 750,000
Inkana: 50,000

Total: 850,000
Command of given to: Roach busters

You see i was sending my planes home because i had canceled the mission of spying on you because you wanted us to leave.

How was my country supposed to know that ICly? Regardless, this was a long period of time after I publicly asked you guys to stop sending planes over my country, I gave you fair warning, so you shouldn't be crying now.


And thats when you shot them down over your own country.

No you fool. Doomingsland's plane landed on my country and self destructed. We didn't fire a shot at the plane. Only until you guys completely disregarded my request to stop flying planes over my airspace did I open fire on your planes.

Official Imperial Statement-

Hahahahahahahahaha...haha...man, that was the best laugh I've had all day. As if the founder would disipline himself, and one of the first members of the thing, and one of his close allies.

Then I will have no choice but to regard this alliance as a fraudelent one.

IC:

The ministry of BS detecting

It has been announced today that the TBA alliance does not stand up to their values. Several members provoked a conflict that could have easily ended up in thousands of deaths. The leaders of TBA refuse to take action against the instigators, therefore, we are alerting the world that this alliance is not working toward good of mankind.

The clerk pulls out a folder out of a file, wets his stamp and pounds the folder. Upon lifting up the stamp, the words: "TBA Alliance: |FRAUD|" could be seen.

*Up in arms*

OOC: If you lose spy planes you cant really declare war on them, spy planes arent supposed to be there and if they are shot down surely you are better off denying all knowledge and just stopping.

IC: Spy planes are taking a risk by spying, if someone caught me spying on them then I wouldnt moan too much if they shot my planes down. (OOC: we have a few sattelites that keep a very rough eye on things, not looking at anything or mapping unless we go to war, but looking for REALLY large movements or unusual activity otherwise they just fly round and nothing is recorded.. we would say IC if our sattelites began actaul spy work as what they do just allows us to see the posts on the II forum a little quicker than most basically... but that said we lose a sattelite every know and then and dont ask questions... we accept it and IC we dont have any sattelites doing that)

Notquiteaplace asks that justice be done.

As members of the alliance and upholders of the ideals that it should stand for.

We stand for peace and have seen heard many reports of our fellow members abusing this alliance. We believe it is time some discipline is handed out.

Either, a fine paid to the wronged parties, or the misbehaving nations be placed under a limited duration prohibition in which causing further trouble has them kicked out or voting rights/ ministerial power removed and new minsters put in(with rights restored after a while).

The punishment does not have to be serious, this time but a warning should be given to remind people why they signed up here.

We will not be contributing any troops to a shared force until it is seen that this alliance has some integrity.

Are you serious. A Doomingsland plane was having trouble and made a crash landing. Japanese Antartican soldiers came to kill the men. Battle erupted and the crazy piloit dedonated the self-destruct. We were not the instigators or agressors. I only had soldiers in Doomingsland. Never did i even fly a plane except for in and on the way to Doomingsland.

Doomingsland men didnt know Japanese ANtarcitca had built a base and thought it safe to crash land.

When Holy Paradise was warned to not fly planes they left. On the way out they were shot down.

We did not launch attacks or anything. We di not invade for national soverignty, we di not invade. We di not attack for no reason, we did not attack. We are in no way warmongerers, agressors, nor instigators.

The chance of Borman soldiers assisting NonQuietPlace in combat has taken a serious drop. It shall b=never climb until they admit they made a mistake.

P.S. Who abused the alliance? None of us. I helped Doomingsland becuase of CAD. ALso Holy Paradise is his ally outside of this so he decided to help.

Are you serious. A Doomingsland plane was having trouble and made a crash landing. Japanese Antartican soldiers came to kill the men. Battle erupted and the crazy piloit dedonated the self-destruct. We were not the instigators or agressors. I only had soldiers in Doomingsland. Never did i even fly a plane except for in and on the way to Doomingsland.

Doomingsland men didnt know Japanese ANtarcitca had built a base and thought it safe to crash land.

When Holy Paradise was warned to not fly planes they left. On the way out they were shot down.

We did not launch attacks or anything. We di not invade for national soverignty, we di not invade. We di not attack for no reason, we did not attack. We are in no way warmongerers, agressors, nor instigators.

The chance of Borman soldiers assisting NonQuietPlace in combat has taken a serious drop. It shall b=never climb until they admit they made a mistake.

P.S. Who abused the alliance? None of us. I helped Doomingsland becuase of CAD. ALso Holy Paradise is his ally outside of this so he decided to help.

No, our soldiers were not out to kill Doomingsland's men, they were sent to investigate. They didn't open fire until they were ambushed. You were massing troops, Doomingsland was sailing warships towards my territory, how is that not aggressive? You were all asked to stop sending planes towards my territory. This warning went unheeded. Holy Paradise did recall his planes, but only after they finished taking pictures.

And threatening NotQuiteaPlace by not helping him won't do you any good. You're an August nation, he can do without your help. You are all part of the TBA alliance. And since you took these aggressive actions, I expect the TBA alliance to deal with you properly, otherwise the TBA alliance will be recognized as evil and immoral.

OOC: Borman Empire, work on your spelling and grammar.

OOC: I type too fast, so i make more mistakes, but thank you.

I was ammassing troops in Doomingsland to prepare for an invasion by you. I think if Holy Paradise wasn't warned to stop flying planes he would have kept taking pictures. Doomingsland was preparing for you to attack, so why not intercept. Holy Paradise was hte only one i recall flying planes and when asked to he flew them out.

I suppose i am threatening, its just that if he thinks im in the wrong then why should my men die to defend him. He's cool in my opinion but this just set us back a ways while. And these 'agressive actions' were to prepare for your invasion. And even if we were all planning to glass you or unload millions of soldiers why would that effect the alliance. THis is a good alliance and i shall stand behind it to the end.

And how were Doomingsland's men supposed to know you were going to investigate. If i crashed a plane on an uninhabited island and saw enemy soldiers approaching me brandishing weapons, i would stand about.

We are preparing to Blacklist you if hostilities continue. THis is nothing threatening or a hit list, just a list to refer to to see who to avoid.

OOC: I type too fast, so i make more mistakes, but thank you.

I was ammassing troops in Doomingsland to prepare for an invasion by you. I think if Holy Paradise wasn't warned to stop flying planes he would have kept taking pictures. Doomingsland was preparing for you to attack, so why not intercept. Holy Paradise was hte only one i recall flying planes and when asked to he flew them out.

I suppose i am threatening, its just that if he thinks im in the wrong then why should my men die to defend him. He's cool in my opinion but this just set us back a ways while. And these 'agressive actions' were to prepare for your invasion. And even if we were all planning to glass you or unload millions of soldiers why would that effect the alliance. THis is a good alliance and i shall stand behind it to the end.

And how were Doomingsland's men supposed to know you were going to investigate. If i crashed a plane on an uninhabited island and saw enemy soldiers approaching me brandishing weapons, i would stand about.

We are preparing to Blacklist you if hostilities continue. THis is nothing threatening or a hit list, just a list to refer to to see who to avoid.

Dude. Doomingsland set the demolition command even before the transport helicopter landed. When they heard the helicopter rotors, they planned to kill our soldiers, even before they knew if we were armed or not.


It's hard to believe you were massing troops to defend your country in the case that I invaded you guys, when Doomingsland was sending ships towards my nation. And why would I invade Doomingsland? Did the Soviet Union invade the United States when Gary Powers was shot down? There was no reason to believe I was going to invade you (in fact, intelligence from your side said that I was getting ready to be invaded by you guys). Don't try to make it seem like you weren't aggressive, anyone with a normal iq can see through this BS.

What a joke. You don't even understand what the alliance stands for, yet you claim to be such a loyal member. On the front page, it states something on the lines of, "we don't start wars." You guys were instigating a conflict, you nearly started a war. I don't see any problems with the alliance, just a few members that aren't good. But you know, a few bad apples can spoil the entire bunch.

I don't mind if you blacklist me, my nation has more credibility in the International community than yours, it would only make you look bad.

I was trying to bring the conflict down. THats why none of my craft approached you. But Doomingsland can confirm that my men weer coming to defend. The frames of the buildings we constructed to defend still remain.

WE WERE NOT STARTING A WAR there was no war which we are all happy for. We wanted this cold war to sink down and go back to our normal buisness. Doomingsland expressed that he needed assistance in the case of you invading.

Us invading. I certainly wasn't. I doubt any one else was but they might have.

We know that your men came and a battle erupted. When your men were infiltrating the plane the charge was set and went off.

Im Playing Freedom Fighters in a couple of minutes so if i dont respond thats why.

I was trying to bring the conflict down. THats why none of my craft approached you. But Doomingsland can confirm that my men weer coming to defend. The frames of the buildings we constructed to defend still remain.

WE WERE NOT STARTING A WAR there was no war which we are all happy for. We wanted this cold war to sink down and go back to our normal buisness. Doomingsland expressed that he needed assistance in the case of you invading.

Us invading. I certainly wasn't. I doubt any one else was but they might have.

We know that your men came and a battle erupted. When your men were infiltrating the plane the charge was set and went off.

Believe what you want.


I'm just waiting for you guys to get suspended from the alliance for what you did.

Borman: I have yet top get in a war of my own doing. I joined the alliance to assist other nations who have been misfortunate. To be honest I doubt I would need the alliance for any other than the most extreme problems for which you would be obliged to to help, in the name of its goals. Otherwise, I hope to never need your troops. :)

I appreciate you are angry but I have been given reports (by a neutral party) of certain members of our allaince pushing newbies (not n00bs) around and suchlike. My first impulse is to protect the weak and wronged. I have been fervantly following this ever since my nation received a threat from a much larger nation, merely for admiring their army. They were never going to carry it out, but such behavior is shameful. This is what my nation now aims to reduce now it has become slightly more influential (it has grown 14 fold since then). Through allies or my own force if need be. War is bad for trade and we are a very money driven and slightly militaristic nation. We have seen little evidence from your side so far and your arguement im afraid is a little un persuasive. You produce some really solid evidence and I will admit to being wrong and chance my stance however.

I will now do what I always do. In these situations.

JA and Borman: there seems to have poor communications from and between troops of both sides. I suggest all parties court marshall those responsible and stand down. Neither of you wants this argueing to proceed any further, but you are forcing each other into this. Your only option is to secure peace and end this now, I suggest free trade between your nations. Let there be money and goodwill rather than further cold wars.

6- We condem Goverments that kill inocent humans for nothing but there political opinnions


The people of NQP are appalled by the actions of Roach buster's President in the Parthian protests. It runs against this objective of our goals as an alliance.

Sorry Borman but this alliance is in a sorry state when one of its senior members can act like this.

OOC: I Be gone for 12 hours and The alliance is draged throu the dirt like adead dog on a rope. blah!!

Give me a link to this Said Conflict and the isue will be looked at with great care.

As for the Declaration of the alliance to be a fraud i have this to say "How Dare you attack Us verbably"

Another thing about this is the alliance dose stand for peace and prosperity but if a members morals are split between 2 alliances then if they were reacting on another alliance suplenting statement then we have no say in there actions. However if they were repersenting TBA in these actions then the ministries must debate the isue.

With all that said and Done Apart from not having a link to prove your story The alliance store will pitch in 30,000,000 Crowns to aid in repairing any damage to Japanese Antarctica property. We also send 30 tons of marble to help in rebuilding damaged buildings.

The people of NQP are appalled by the actions of Roach buster's President in the Parthian protests. It runs against this objective of our goals as an alliance.

Sorry Borman but this alliance is in a sorry state when one of its senior members can act like this.
OOC: Please give a link to the topic.

With all that said and Done Apart from not having a link to prove your story The alliance store will pitch in 30,000,000 Crowns to aid in repairing any damage to Japanese Antarctica property. We also send 30 tons of marble to help in rebuilding damaged buildings.

We accept your offer. I'm glad that there are some members of the TBA that listen to the voice of reason and choose peace over aggression.

OOC: What's the value of a crown vs. USD?

OOC: What's the value of a crown vs. USD?

Well I dont realy know. but if you look up Dailey's economic info you'll find out.

Well I dont realy know. but if you look up Dailey's economic info you'll find out.

just did, 2.07 Crowns = $1

just did, 2.07 Crowns = $1
ouch got to work on geting that up

Official Imperial Statement

The Imperial Government will take this time to state that if Borman, Doomingsland, or any other CAD member or independant ally is punished for baseless claims made by the aggressive Japanese Antarctican government, Generia shall formally withdraw from the alliance.

Official Imperial Statement

The Imperial Government will take this time to state that if Borman, Doomingsland, or any other CAD member or independant ally is punished for baseless claims made by the aggressive Japanese Antarctican government, Generia shall formally withdraw from the alliance.

Official Statement

Worthless. We made no acts of agression against anybody. Our defenses stayed within our borders. We took no offensive action at all. When Doomingsland's men ambushed our men, they had no choice but to return fire. When Holy Paradise disregarded our request to cease sending spyplanes, we had no choice but to fire. Go ahead and leave the TBA, I'm sure they do not need a nation with a leader as close minded as yourself.

It would seem that Japanese Antarctica is doing more harm to this alliance than help. Perhaps it is you who should withdraw. We urge Dailey to consider the fact the Japanese Antarctica is responsible for a widening rift in this alliance.

Official Statement

Fool. We aren't even in this alliance. We came here asking that the parties who participated in the (failed) invasion attempt of Japanese Antarctica apologize for what they did and that they be disciplined. We urge Dailey to consider that this alliance is good, save the few members that do not stick to the alliance's principles.

Daisuke Ajibana, Ministry of Nay Saying

Official Statement

Worthless. We made no acts of agression against anybody. Our defenses stayed within our borders. We took no offensive action at all. When Doomingsland's men ambushed our men, they had no choice but to return fire. When Holy Paradise disregarded our request to cease sending spyplanes, we had no choice but to fire. Go ahead and leave the TBA, I'm sure they do not need a nation with a leader as close minded as yourself.
Official Government Response-

What did you expect our men to do? Attack helicopters flew toward the plane, and, I might add, that particular model had been used against Doomingsland forces in the Soviet Expanse Wars, and is in the field manual. They merely set the self destruct to prevent the capture of the vital equiptment on board, and did not open fire until your men BOARDED the aircraft. It is your own fualt your men were killed, as they didn't need to enter the aircraft. Also, the naval vessles were in international waters, and our UAVs were merely on a training exersize over international airspace.

Hey, all you fascists... Join The Fascists Haven Region Now!

Hey, all you fascists... Join The Fascists Haven Region Now!

Don't spam here or we'll crush you.

Official Government Response-

What did you expect our men to do? Attack helicopters flew toward the plane, and, I might add, that particular model had been used against Doomingsland forces in the Soviet Expanse Wars, and is in the field manual. They merely set the self destruct to prevent the capture of the vital equiptment on board, and did not open fire until your men BOARDED the aircraft. It is your own fualt your men were killed, as they didn't need to enter the aircraft. Also, the naval vessles were in international waters, and our UAVs were merely on a training exersize over international airspace.

Of course they boarded the plane, they needed to stop the detonation sequence your men set! Some UAVs flew in international airspace, but some did cross into our borders. We already ended this petty argument, but obviously, Generic Empire and Doomingsland wished to restart it.

Official Government Response-

What did you expect our men to do? Attack helicopters flew toward the plane, and, I might add, that particular model had been used against Doomingsland forces in the Soviet Expanse Wars, and is in the field manual. They merely set the self destruct to prevent the capture of the vital equiptment on board, and did not open fire until your men BOARDED the aircraft. It is your own fualt your men were killed, as they didn't need to enter the aircraft. Also, the naval vessles were in international waters, and our UAVs were merely on a training exersize over international airspace.
The actions will not be acted on and the alliance has gevin what it thinks is a good compensation for losses to the Japanese Antarctica properties.

I Request that all parties dealing with this drop the isue before it esculates into a flameing/flamebate war.

as for the litle freak that thinks he should come into someone elses topic i ask you to read the dang rules about posting before you do it again. you should no better before you even start in the internation Comunity.

I agree that that this is becomming stupid, but it can be easily solved, find the thread where this all was.

Borman: I have yet top get in a war of my own doing. I joined the alliance to assist other nations who have been misfortunate. To be honest I doubt I would need the alliance for any other than the most extreme problems for which you would be obliged to to help, in the name of its goals. Otherwise, I hope to never need your troops. :)

I appreciate you are angry but I have been given reports (by a neutral party) of certain members of our allaince pushing newbies (not n00bs) around and suchlike. My first impulse is to protect the weak and wronged. I have been fervantly following this ever since my nation received a threat from a much larger nation, merely for admiring their army. They were never going to carry it out, but such behavior is shameful. This is what my nation now aims to reduce now it has become slightly more influential (it has grown 14 fold since then). Through allies or my own force if need be. War is bad for trade and we are a very money driven and slightly militaristic nation. We have seen little evidence from your side so far and your arguement im afraid is a little un persuasive. You produce some really solid evidence and I will admit to being wrong and chance my stance however.

I will now do what I always do. In these situations.

JA and Borman: there seems to have poor communications from and between troops of both sides. I suggest all parties court marshall those responsible and stand down. Neither of you wants this argueing to proceed any further, but you are forcing each other into this. Your only option is to secure peace and end this now, I suggest free trade between your nations. Let there be money and goodwill rather than further cold wars.

Thank you very much. Our relations have improved. If you need help we will not stop to do so.

Failed invasion? We never invaded and never planned to do so.

Did I imply a failed Invasion? Sorry i meant that this only escalated due to poor communication between troops of both sides and the command, leading both nations who obviously dont war into it.

Ive had a look at the way you two have played it out and that is what it seems to me. (OOC:Misunderstandings between players, which ICLY would be due to intelegence failing)

As for the roach busters acting badly. Hang on a minute....

... here it is..... and its not just RB... its Borman too!

Id read on... it gets worse.

The first page explains things and the next three or four appaled me.

Sorry Dailey but these nations should be appalled not applauding.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357532&page=2&pp=15

Dailey, you forgot a member: The Dark Dimension.

Hey can I join? I'm new around here and am just getting used to everything ya'know so I would be extremely pleased to be a member of the Tba. I like your moral standings and regulation.

Rockon2004

I'm sure Dailey won't mind. Send him a telegram and ask him.

... here it is..... and its not just RB... its Borman too!

Id read on... it gets worse.

The first page explains things and the next three or four appaled me.

Sorry Dailey but these nations should be appalled not applauding.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357532&page=2&pp=15
Well after reading the topic i say who cares it's a internal afairs isue about striking commies. so insted of reprmanding then i'm just leting it slide. Reasons being:

1.Roach-Busters is one of our biggist allies in this alliance

2.it a petty internal afairse problem not an international one.

3.way to late to reprimand any one because i beleave it's over and done with.

Dailey, you forgot a member: The Dark Dimension.
i forgot more then just that member. i know i got to update the first post.

Hey can I join? I'm new around here and am just getting used to everything ya'know so I would be extremely pleased to be a member of the Tba. I like your moral standings and regulation.

Rockon2004
He Checks out, although I couldn't get his Econimic Information because his Region contains too many naions.

He Checks out, although I couldn't get his Econimic Information because his Region contains too many naions.
ok i second that vote so As of this moment Rockon2004 is a member of the TBA alliance. Welcome to the alliance.OOC: Memeber list will be updated soon. please join the alliance forum link is in my signature

Well after reading the topic i say who cares it's a internal afairs isue about striking commies. so insted of reprmanding then i'm just leting it slide. Reasons being:

1.Roach-Busters is one of our biggist allies in this alliance

2.it a petty internal afairse problem not an international one.

3.way to late to reprimand any one because i beleave it's over and done with.

Fair enough. Im just saying that Roach busters should have said "we condemn this act of sensless violence, surely there are communist nations who will take them" rather than rushing to the executions.

Im not asking for discpline. This time. Just that Roach busters and Borman dont do it again.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358338

Do you see something wrong there?

NO i hadnt. But I do know.

This has to stop! My own views are... if you dont like em. Find em somewhere else to live! This is nationstates and there a huge numbers iof countries of each ideology and every shade of each ideology a hundred times over!

This means that deporting them to a country which to them is utopia IS actually possible, unlike the real world. Just sell their houses and give them a fair price (ie its actually market price) and allow them to leave the country with the money and start anew, once somewhere else is found.

Many nations will take them.

That is my stock respose to any such behavior. It does not breach TBA conduct. WHich RB does. I understyand he works hard to maintain its power, but its credibility? He is damaging.

I signed up to some ideals and if they dont exist. What am I doing here?

Oh it tunrs out that the communists were guilty of other crimes.

However RB acted unaware of this.

ok both the isues are over with now back to alliance talk.

hmm. Id like a response from the gguilty parties to assure us this wont happen again.

Otherwise. Yeah.. uh... peace and respect for sovereignity providing no one is unessarily killed.

bump bump bump

still looking for more members.......

Bump

Bump

welcome back, where have you been?

Fable

Fable

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TBA Memebers Dont forget to check the TBA forum for Ministry meatings and alliance isues.

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new XBOX game isnt it? Supposed to be very good.

ok guys and girls of TBA read the Alliance forum i am going to be puting my msn there so we all can figure out more things for the TBA Storefront. and dicuss alliance isues.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Negolonjo
Official Letter No. 522

*** BEGIN TRANSLATION ***
Dear Leaders of the TBA Alliance,

On behalf of the people of Smagganuk, we do hereby apply for membership in the TBA alliance.


Signed by
President Sandor Merado
*** END TRANSLATION ***

Translated by
Olvar Lenungar,
Principal Secretary,
Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Negolonjo,
The Free Land of Smagganuk

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[QUOTE=Smagganuk]Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Negolonjo
Official Letter No. 522

*** BEGIN TRANSLATION ***
Dear Leaders of the TBA Alliance,

On behalf of the people of Smagganuk, we do hereby apply for membership in the TBA alliance.


Signed by
President Sandor Merado
*** END TRANSLATION ***
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You have my vote you just need the vote of the minister of aceptance and then your in. If for any reason He Denies your nation I might over ride his dission upon investegation of reasons.

Smagganuk is a close friend of mine, he's in.

new XBOX game isnt it? Supposed to be very good.

yup. Its awesome, and when you play it non-stop u can beat it in 6 days, like i did.

Goodbye. Generica and I ride to our Doom. As of now we alone face 4 or more nations with over a billion each. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If i do fall, I thank you for allowing me to be in such an asteemed alliance.

Generia would also like to thank Dailey, and the fellow members of the TBA for allowing us entry into such a magnificent alliance. When the Empires of Borman and Generia should recieve glorious death, we ask that our names be forever remembered.

Amen

Goodbye. Generica and I ride to our Doom. As of now we alone face 4 or more nations with over a billion each. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If i do fall, I thank you for allowing me to be in such an asteemed alliance.

as my allaince membership indicates I wish to know why they are attacking and when. Post links, and we maybe able to help you.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7092354#post7092354

I think it's cuase we were attacking a guy who wanted his debt paid. Let me explain.

Person A and B are allies. Person B has a civil war and person A helps the government come back to power. Afterwards person A's economy goes down while B's economy rises. A demands B pays like 12 mil USD to cove the war or he will invade and destroy him. Generic, Wirraway, and I are helping person B by eliminating person A. THen Apple Zer0 says B should pay and declares war on us. 3 Other billion population nations join in the crusade against us.

That's what they said but there may be other motives.

Supporting the intentions, but threats wernt the right thing to do.

Offering to defend and loaning him a few troops would have been a much smarter choice.

We can not support the action you took but see your intentions as good.

We are discarding the following as we infact replace equipment every 10 years.

3000 NQP MBT tanks (slightly slower and heavier, and better armoured than an Abrahms, cant remember details off the top of my head, but dont worry) That would have been scrapped this year anyway (we replace all intact units every 10 years anyway) 3000 NQP light tanks (armour 1000-250mm front-rear, 500 on sides, 70kph (i think, might be wrong), 105mm gun) 60000 APCs, and 600 anti aircraft units, complete with 24 anti aircraft missiles, ranged 90000m, amour 500-150mm, weight 45 tonnes) for your defense. And 60000 NQp assault rifles (the old Isle of the rose ones that they made in may they are very long ranged, 650m I believe)

these would all be scrapped anyway, so we are just disposing of them, if some like you just happens to pick them up, well, fine we dont want them, provided its not some banana republic. We wont be watching. A few maintenance and training manuals are included but all our gear is reliable and high performance. Anyway that lot, will be left on the border nearest your nation, generic, i hope that if to were to be salavged (all operational) and say used as a desparate measure in a war it would help.

OOC: i wish i had the stats for all that stuff on me, but I hope it helps.

IC: we will also accept refugees if you are invaded.

Generia would also like to thank Dailey, and the fellow members of the TBA for allowing us entry into such a magnificent alliance. When the Empires of Borman and Generia should recieve glorious death, we ask that our names be forever remembered.
ok what is this about? you killing your nation or something?

We're getting killed. Now its about 1.9 billion total-us. Vs. 5 billion total-those seeking to destroy us.

Borman, Generic, Parthians, Grenval, Doomingsland.

Apple Zer0, Matterbuggy, And 2 others. All Above 1 billion.

I thank you very much any and all who thought of or responded. Luckily it seems the war is simmering down. We're at a cease-fire and peace treaties are in the process of being signed.

I thank you very much any and all who thought of or responded. Luckily it seems the war is simmering down. We're at a cease-fire and peace treaties are in the process of being signed.
who started this war?

Apple zer0. Before a shot was fired we found out we were actually allies. THey were part of the WW alliance which is allied with C A D. Im not sure if that's why it stopped but it did.

I got the hell out of there, it was a war we could not win, I'm happy that Borman and Generia came out alive.

Wirraway, you might be interested in this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360140

You seem like just the kind of person we could use.

Wirraway, you might be interested in this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360140

You seem like just the kind of person we could use.

OOC: most definitly and to all the Communists I say, "Welcome to the Jungle...."

OOC: most definitly and to all the Communists I say, "Welcome to the Jungle...."

((OOC: Wow. That was awesome. Can I make that the alliance motto? Everything needs a G'N'R reference.))

((OOC: Wow. That was awesome. Can I make that the alliance motto? Everything needs a G'N'R reference.))

Ya, it would send the right message to those commie scum, G'N'R could also be our official alliance band, lol.

Ya, it would send the right message to those commie scum, G'N'R could also be our official alliance band, lol.

G'N'R is already the official band of Generia, so why not the alliance.

I second that.

To The TBA defence alliance
From Ambassador Araon of Neo Cannen
The Prime Nomad/Guardiean of Neo Cannen is extremely impressed by your statement of mission and wishes Neo Cannen to become one of your number. We also believe that we can do something for you. We are currently developing an anti terrorist weapon, under the codename Project Whitehall. If you agree to allow us in to the TBA we are happy to include a represntative of the TBA to observe the negotations regarding the uranium used to develop this weapon (see Uranium Import request thread) and to give you access to the weapon once it is completed. I hope you can agree to this.

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G'N'R is already the official band of Generia, so why not the alliance.
Rock on!!!!!

Rock on!!!!!

Whenever I conquer somebody, my Praetorians always blast Paradise City through the streets in celebration.

In the 1989 US invasion of Panama, to get Noreaga out of the Vatican Embassy, they blasted "Welcome to the Jungle" nonstop for 3 days. Lol

In the 1989 US invasion of Panama, to get Noreaga out of the Vatican Embassy, they blasted "Welcome to the Jungle" nonstop for 3 days. Lol

Yeah. I got that info from VH1. God, G'N'R kicks so much ass it's not even funny. Immortality redefined. Slash is God.

I second that.

To The TBA defence alliance
From Ambassador Araon of Neo Cannen
The Prime Nomad/Guardiean of Neo Cannen is extremely impressed by your statement of mission and wishes Neo Cannen to become one of your number. We also believe that we can do something for you. We are currently developing an anti terrorist weapon, under the codename Project Whitehall. If you agree to allow us in to the TBA we are happy to include a represntative of the TBA to observe the negotations regarding the uranium used to develop this weapon (see Uranium Import request thread) and to give you access to the weapon once it is completed. I hope you can agree to this.
Alright Your have The Vote of The king Of Dailey you just need the minister of aceptace's vote now

To The King Of Dailey
From Ambassador Araon of Neo Cannen
I thank you for your support, expediancy and explination of the system. The Prime Nomad/Guardien hopes that our relationship will be mutualy benefitial and that the ministers will see our nation as a valuable ally.

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To The King Of Dailey
From Ambassador Araon of Neo Cannen
I thank you for your support, expediancy and explination of the system. The Prime Nomad/Guardien hopes that our relationship will be mutualy benefitial and that the ministers will see our nation as a valuable ally.

Your most senciraly Welcome.


OOC:Bump darn it we need more members

can you add my name to the member list on the first page.

Some pinkos just tried to invade me, but their fleet got pwned, anyone want to go grab some free land off a 900 million pop country with an imploded economy?

Some pinkos just tried to invade me, but their fleet got pwned, anyone want to go grab some free land off a 900 million pop country with an imploded economy?

Hell yeah. WHO? WHERE?

can you add my name to the member list on the first page.
ya i'll do that i've sort of fallen behind on the list a bit

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Some pinkos just tried to invade me, but their fleet got pwned, anyone want to go grab some free land off a 900 million pop country with an imploded economy?
Hell yes.

I second the Hell yes

To The King Of Dailey
From Ambassador Araon of Neo Cannen
I thank you for your support, expediancy and explination of the system. The Prime Nomad/Guardien hopes that our relationship will be mutualy benefitial and that the ministers will see our nation as a valuable ally.I have no objection, welcome to the club!

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I finnally finished the proposal. Sorry it took so long Its n your forum

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Dailey, you said I could be Minister of Immigration, remember? My minister's name is Thiensiri Theveenugul.

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Dailey, you're forgetting a member: The Dark Dimension.

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You said it, pal! ;)

You said it, pal! ;)

Lol

ok I beleave we are updated now (I hope)

I added my responce on the Forum to the Treaty/Agreement

I added my responce on the Forum to the Treaty/Agreement
ok kool check the TBA forum bottom of page for the new Topic section.

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OOC: Please refer to http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363093 . And technically, no one but Dailey knows about this message.

To the leaders of Dailey and the TBA alliance, we wish to contact you on matters concerning funds that members of your alliance owe us. First, we did not confirm the receipt of the $15 Million promised to us by Dailey from the instigators of our recent conflict. Not only this, but Doomingsland has failed to make good on a treaty we signed after our victory in a past war. Doomingsland never gave funds to aid the nation of Vladimir Stremouchov, which now defunct, due to Doomingsland's complete disrespect for the treaty.

Because we wish to use diplomacy rather than savagery, we ask that you convince your allies to wire the funds that they owe us. If not, we will have no choice but to collect it by force.

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Whatever

OOC: Please refer to http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363093 . And technically, no one but Dailey knows about this message.

To the leaders of Dailey and the TBA alliance, we wish to contact you on matters concerning funds that members of your alliance owe us. First, we did not confirm the receipt of the $15 Million promised to us by Dailey from the instigators of our recent conflict. Not only this, but Doomingsland has failed to make good on a treaty we signed after our victory in a past war. Doomingsland never gave funds to aid the nation of Vladimir Stremouchov, which now defunct, due to Doomingsland's complete disrespect for the treaty.

Because we wish to use diplomacy rather than savagery, we ask that you convince your allies to wire the funds that they owe us. If not, we will have no choice but to collect it by force.

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The founds were to be wired from the TBA Store Front not the members of the alliance.

The founds were to be wired from the TBA Store Front not the members of the alliance.

IC: It seems that there was an error in the wire transfer and the funds were sent to the wrong place. We've recovered the money and acknowledge that the TBA no longer owes money. However, Doomingsland still does owe money. We would like you to pressure Doomingsland into paying their debt. Otherwise, we will take action, because Doomingsland did not fulfill his end of the treaty.

I could Care Less if Doomingland desides to not pay His dept to You Then TBA will Back our Great Ally Full Heartedy.

OK All TBA Alliance Ministers the TBA Forum is still waiting for you to introduce your selves to the intire Alliance on our own forum. each minister has His/Her own Area on the TBA forum.

My full name is, "The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway" for the front page Dailey.

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My full name is, "The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway" for the front page Dailey.
ok Updated and Full name there

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ok Updated and Full name there

And I'm now The Invincible Empire of Roach-Busters.

Oh, yeah, and don't forget The Dark Dimension.

OOC: How do you get custom names? On Wirraways NS page it says the Iron Concordiat, how did you do that?

OOC: How do you get custom names? On Wirraways NS page it says the Iron Concordiat, how did you do that?

You need a population of 500 million or more.

That'd be the Dark Empire of Doomingsland, and you can update the STRATCOM minister, that'd be Emperor Helldawg now.

You need a population of 500 million or more.

Oh. Thanks.

That'd be the Dark Empire of Doomingsland, and you can update the STRATCOM minister, that'd be Emperor Helldawg now.

Ok the name is upgraded but I Have No clue what StratCom means is that the Ministry of Strategic Camand?

And I'm now The Invincible Empire of Roach-Busters.

Oh, yeah, and don't forget The Dark Dimension.

ok You name is Fixed and i put The Dark Demension up last night

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bump

6- We condem Goverments that kill inocent humans for nothing but there political opinnions

Was Doomingsland condemned for executing Communists with a hydrogen bomb?

Was Doomingsland condemned for executing Communists with a hydrogen bomb?
Awww, c'mon, you liked that one.

Weren't the communists violent?

Weren't the communists violent?
Yes, actualy.

I thought so.

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Exetonia would like to sign up to this alliance

Was Doomingsland condemned for executing Communists with a hydrogen bomb?

OOC: You Are a War Moggerer Nothing more nothing less Begone from this post your realy starting to bug me.

IC: Official Message To Japanese Antarctica

You have 24 hours to Back Down from all Threts Towards any members of the TBA alliance And to pull your troops out of Doomingland waters. If you do not comply TBA will be forced to Declare you an Enemy of the State and Start Bombing Runs on major cities in your Nation. We would hate to have to kill citizens to make your Aregant Leader Back down if you do not back down you will be forceing our hands to make you back down at any cost.
We Remind you that you are Up againts many nations if the Alliance dose declare war on you.

End of message

Incoded Message to All TBA members

Diplomacy is failing War is mandetory. A Member of our alliance has been thretened with War From the nation of Japanese Antarctica. If said nation dose not back down within 24 hours said nation will be Placed Under the category of Enemy of the State and War chail be Declared. As it Says in the Alliance Statements We defend Our Allies and All Members of the TBA Alliance. We have a duty to defend our great ally Doomingland From the blood thirsty Leader of Japanese Antarctica.

End of message

Exetonia would like to sign up to this alliance
His Holiness Jonathan Antensen I Has no objections of your great nation entering the TBA Alliance.

However your entering of the alliance must be aproved of both the Daileyian Goverment and the Minister of Acceptance

Awww, c'mon, you liked that one.

OOC: I liked it oocly, but ICly, it was viewed as a horrific act of savagery, blah blah blah.

You Are a War Moggerer Nothing more nothing less Begone from this post your realy starting to bug me.

War moggerer? Yeah, you have issues with grammar and spelling too. And issues with logic. I'm the one being diplomatic here. You guys are the one itching for a fight.

IC:

You have 24 hours to Back Down from all Threts Towards any members of the TBA alliance And to pull your troops out of Doomingland waters. If you do not comply TBA will be forced to Declare you an Enemy of the State and Start Bombing Runs on major cities in your Nation. We would hate to have to kill citizens to make your Aregant Leader Back down if you do not back down you will be forceing our hands to make you back down at any cost.
We Remind you that you are Up againts many nations if the Alliance dose declare war on you.

We will not withdraw any threats. No forces are in Doomingsland's waters, you are mistaken if you believe so. We are the reasonable ones. In fact, the ultimatum was extended to give Doomingsland another opportunity to rethink her options. We scoff at your empty threats, you could do no such thing. Your side is being unreasonable, completing ignoring debt it owes. This alliance will again be known as a fraud. I ask all clear-thinking members of this alliance to consider withdrawing, in order to avoid being associated with these nations of fraudulence.
Again, we extend the hand of diplomacy to your side. Pay your debts, or I will construct a multi national coalition to rid the earth of your nations.
We do not fear your nations. We will bury you.

OOC: I liked it oocly, but ICly, it was viewed as a horrific act of savagery, blah blah blah.



War moggerer? Yeah, you have issues with grammar and spelling too. And issues with logic. I'm the one being diplomatic here. You guys are the one itching for a fight.

IC:



We will not withdraw any threats. No forces are in Doomingsland's waters, you are mistaken if you believe so. We are the reasonable ones. In fact, the ultimatum was extended to give Doomingsland another opportunity to rethink her options. We scoff at your empty threats, you could do no such thing. Your side is being unreasonable, completing ignoring debt it owes. This alliance will again be known as a fraud. I ask all clear-thinking members of this alliance to consider withdrawing, in order to avoid being associated with these nations of fraudulence.
Again, we extend the hand of diplomacy to your side. Pay your debts, or I will construct a multi national coalition to rid the earth of your nations.
We do not fear your nations. We will bury you.
How much dose Doomingland need to pay? if it is resonable TBA store Will gladly pay 15% of it every half year untill the dept is paid off we do not wish for a war to break out over a stupid dept.

OOC: Calm down JA. No one here wants war that isnt strictly necessary.

My nation will try to smooth things out but wont be intimidated. there are no threats or declarations of anything other than the need to calm down in this post. Well that and our nation not being threatened.


IC: Kirsty Cox, President of NQP takes the podium, the first female president of NQP, she is fairly short and young, but looks tall and confident behind the podium (OOC: based on one of my housemates), the speach she makes is sent to JA. Her hair is tied back but shows as died distinctly scarlet.

I believe I condemned Doomingsland and got an explanation that they were laready criminals for other things. I told them provided that was the case all was well. Though they hadnt said before. I also had words with TBA members about RB's actions at that point.

No members wish to go to war as that is precisely what the agreement is. If you wish for the compensation instantly, we are willing to pay up to 2 trillion of it now (OOC: i cant remember how much they owe, but we will cover whatever it is up to that), as NQP has a good amount saved, provided it is paid back eventually by Dailey to us. In the name of diplomacy this would be interest free.

Just please do not wave your threats at us. We dont war any more than you. That said, if you still wish war after all diplomacy we would rather be buried by you than submit to your threats.

The president smiles and walks away.

We will not withdraw any threats. No forces are in Doomingsland's waters, you are mistaken if you believe so. We are the reasonable ones. In fact, the ultimatum was extended to give Doomingsland another opportunity to rethink her options. We scoff at your empty threats, you could do no such thing. Your side is being unreasonable, completing ignoring debt it owes. This alliance will again be known as a fraud. I ask all clear-thinking members of this alliance to consider withdrawing, in order to avoid being associated with these nations of fraudulence.
Again, we extend the hand of diplomacy to your side. Pay your debts, or I will construct a multi national coalition to rid the earth of your nations.
We do not fear your nations. We will bury you.

OOC: Thanks for the Kruschev quote I believe that is the second time I've seen it used in the past two days.

You have no right the threaten us blah blah blah blah..... Dailey has agreed to pay the debt, now accept the money or you are being the true mongerer. We also highly doubt the fact that you will bury this alliance, we only ask that you try so you can see how wrong you are.

I strongly oppose the TBA Alliance and all members of said orginization

How much dose Doomingland need to pay? if it is resonable TBA store Will gladly pay 15% of it every half year untill the dept is paid off we do not wish for a war to break out over a stupid dept.

OOC: Calm down JA. No one here wants war that isnt strictly necessary.

My nation will try to smooth things out but wont be intimidated. there are no threats or declarations of anything other than the need to calm down in this post. Well that and our nation not being threatened.


IC: Kirsty Cox, President of NQP takes the podium, the first female president of NQP, she is fairly short and young, but looks tall and confident behind the podium (OOC: based on one of my housemates), the speach she makes is sent to JA. Her hair is tied back but shows as died distinctly scarlet.

I believe I condemned Doomingsland and got an explanation that they were laready criminals for other things. I told them provided that was the case all was well. Though they hadnt said before. I also had words with TBA members about RB's actions at that point.

No members wish to go to war as that is precisely what the agreement is. If you wish for the compensation instantly, we are willing to pay up to 2 trillion of it now (OOC: i cant remember how much they owe, but we will cover whatever it is up to that), as NQP has a good amount saved, provided it is paid back eventually by Dailey to us. In the name of diplomacy this would be interest free.

Just please do not wave your threats at us. We dont war any more than you. That said, if you still wish war after all diplomacy we would rather be buried by you than submit to your threats.

The president smiles and walks away.

OOC: I was calm and polite in the beginning. Then I was insulted. I will formally accept this in the other thread. the total is $240 Billion ($60 Billion to be given to 4 different countries).

OOC: Thanks for the Kruschev quote I believe that is the second time I've seen it used in the past two days.

You have no right the threaten us blah blah blah blah..... Dailey has agreed to pay the debt, now accept the money or you are being the true mongerer. We also highly doubt the fact that you will bury this alliance, we only ask that you try so you can see how wrong you are.

Hey, at least I didn't bang my shoe on the podium! :) I can easily bury Doomingsland, but why would I need to? The only thing necessary would be to cause over $240 billion (plus the cost of the total campaign) in damage to his country. The deal is accepted, why would I refuse? This is an embarrassment to Doomingsland, he couldn't even pay his own debt!

I strongly oppose the TBA Alliance and all members of said orginization

Not all of them are so bad, but some members make this alliance look bad.

OOC:Oh, yeah, you can easily bury me, right. That cracks me up every time. You would take alot more than 250 billion dollar damage if you went to war with me, trust me. I have weapons I haven't even revealed yet...

It's too bad it turned out this way, actualy, I was looking forward to burning your capital to the ground.

OOC:Oh, yeah, you can easily bury me, right. That cracks me up every time. You would take alot more than 250 billion dollar damage if you went to war with me, trust me. I have weapons I haven't even revealed yet...

It's too bad it turned out this way, actualy, I was looking forward to burning your capital to the ground.

OOC: LOL! I could set your country ablaze without taking a scratch. And you wouldn't be able to use weapons that you didn't post stats for. And how do you come up with great new weapons when your education program is in a sorry state?

OOC: Wow, so is JA getting his money? Or will he TRY to bury us?

ok so Here is the math for the Payments TBA store will be giving every 6 mouths.
0.15 (15%) x 240 = 36 Billion

Equaling a Set of 7 Payment Times.

If That is Resonable then it is settled and the first payment will be wired upon agrement.

OOC:

Hey, at least I didn't bang my shoe on the podium! :) I can easily bury Doomingsland, but why would I need to? The only thing necessary would be to cause over $240 billion (plus the cost of the total campaign) in damage to his country. The deal is accepted, why would I refuse? This is an embarrassment to Doomingsland, he couldn't even pay his own debt!

OOC: It's not that Doomingland Cant pay it on his own But TBA is Adverting a War that will Claim Millions of Civilians and Troops.

I strongly oppose the TBA Alliance and all members of said orginization
What Has The TBA Alliance Done that warents Your Opposeing of The Orginization?

OOC:Oh, yeah, you can easily bury me, right. That cracks me up every time. You would take alot more than 250 billion dollar damage if you went to war with me, trust me. I have weapons I haven't even revealed yet...

It's too bad it turned out this way, actualy, I was looking forward to burning your capital to the ground.

OOC: *glares at doomingsland.*

Really smooth, yeah diplomacy. If you want to go to war with him you can, but you wont get my backing over this. Just ignore his taunts (not him, he might be itching for a fight, but he isnt godmoding) and pay him it and we can all go back to not worrying about him.

IC: Yet again Ms Cox is seen addressing the nation and the world, this time looking weary.

She steps up to her podium and composes herself, but it is obvious she isnt happy. (OOC: the real person this is modelled on could flatten Doomongsland herself on a bad day). the large marble hall houses press and officials from accross the world and she takes it in takes a breath and begins.

"I am sorry it has come to this, but Notquiteaplace would like to make it clear we have nothing to do with Doomingland's lack of diplomacy. We are caught in the situation, again, where we agree with JA, certain members of this alliance are making a joke of its name. We respect Dailey and their efforts, but we insist that as founder of the alliance, thier president puts his foot down hard on this. Some discipline must be instilled in this alliance as it is rapidly becoming a joke. We have power, but our integrity is questionable while members continue to act like this.

We implore everyone concerned to back down, except Dailey who must stop letting people get away with this."

She steps down and walks off grabbing some coffee and drinking it almost in one gulp before leaving the hall.

OOC: my views too.

OOC:That was OOC, oh genious.

OOC: Wow, so is JA getting his money? Or will he TRY to bury us?

OOC: I don't mind that you're underestimating me.

ok so Here is the math for the Payments TBA store will be giving every 6 mouths.
0.15 (15%) x 240 = 36 Billion

Equaling a Set of 7 Payment Times.

If That is Resonable then it is settled and the first payment will be wired upon agrement.

Mouths? lol.

Here's how I see it.
IC:

$36 Billion will be paid every 1/2 NS year. After 4.5 NS years, total payment will equal $260 Billion. If that's the case, I accept.

OOC:

If I wanted to be a jerk, I could ask that interest be paid :) , but I'm not like that.

Just ignore his taunts (not him, he might be itching for a fight, but he isnt godmoding) and pay him it and we can all go back to not worrying about him.

How can he ignore the truth :)? I'm RPing it like any RL nationalistic nation would be like.

Agreed
First Payment to be wired Now. Glad TBA could Advert a War that would cost millions.

Official Statement

The Empire is also pleased to have averted what could have become a large scale conflict, costing more than the debt Doomingsland should pay, but more importantly, possibly involving billions of soldiers.

Official Statement

The Empire is also pleased to have averted what could have become a large scale conflict, costing more than the debt Doomingsland should pay, but more importantly, possibly involving billions of soldiers.

Message to JA:
From the Military Courts of TBA:
It is my Duty to inform you that An internal afairse Trial has started and that Doomingland is on trial For an internation incident. Sence this is a TBA Trial You will be informed of the Outcome at the end of it.
End of message

Mesage to All TBA members:
From the Military courts of TBA:
It is With a Heavy Heart that I Must inform you that Doomingland has been put on trial for cousing an international incedent that would cost millions of lives. If it was not for the TBA Store Front Coming up with the founds TBA would now be at war for a isue that could have been solved just by paying the dept.
End of message

Message to the TBA minister of Courts:
From TBA Camand:
It is Your Duty to Judge the Trial and Deside the proper form of Repermand for the Defendant.
End of message.

Could paying off the debt in one lump sum to JA with extra get Doomingsland off trial?

Official Imperial Response-

It is with a heavy heart that we must withdraw from this alliance, due to the incompetence of some members. We hope to maintain relations with most of you. Good day.

"God danmit!"

"I know sir."

The emperor cries.

Message to Doomingland
From TBA Camand:

All charges shail be droped with do hast if you would be able to reconsider leaveing the Alliance.
We also wish to Oppolegize for any inconveniance in the mater.

OOC: Just let him off, who cares about JA anyway?

We respectfully request a full pardon of Doomingsland.

OOC: Just let him off, who cares about JA anyway?

We respectfully request a full pardon of Doomingsland.
read my post again it says that if he reconsiders and stays in the alliance all charges have been droped.

Official Imperial Response-

Upon further consideration, we have decided to remain as a member of the TBA. Have a nice day.

Official Imperial Response-

Upon further consideration, we have decided to remain as a member of the TBA. Have a nice day.
OOC: Sorry for the diplomatic blunder earlier

IC: Glad to see you have Changed Your mind.

OOC: Good. I do not want him to leave.

*bangs head against wall*

OOC: Fine, no trial is needed for me, Id just like it to be known that next time he wont get away with being so careless. Rather than letting him off scot free. You dont have to fine him billions of dollars, just let him know that will happen next time.

OOC: I can agree

We withdraw from the TBA

To All members of The TBA
From Ambassador Midian of Neo Cannen
We are under attack (CAM III santhrapax thread) In this situation we have done nothing to agravate either side yet we are being bombed. We ask for you help.

We withdraw from the TBA

What? Why!?

To All members of The TBA
From Ambassador Midian of Neo Cannen
We are under attack (CAM III santhrapax thread) In this situation we have done nothing to agravate either side yet we are being bombed. We ask for you help.

Why should we help? I will take a look, but if you deserve it I may hasten to join the other side.

What? Why!?

Our new government seeks an end to all prior obligations and protections our former government established.

This alliance does more help than harm. Stay in it and you can be protected. Please.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363979

Well. I can't say I am happy. But its one less communist. If you ever want back in, we'll be right here.

Sorry NC, ive seen your actions. Your goals were admirable, but your methods were insensitive and heavy handed. Instead of diplomacy and talking you used threats. You committed what are technically acts of war and terrorism on these nations.

You support one of our aims but lost sight of what we should consider important.

I vote we leave him to it. Unless he looks to get totally obliterated. In which case we intervene to save him. I think lessons need to be learnt here.

(OOC: it was pre decided RP, these never end in death of nations rarely even a large proportion of the population, so its not even that much in our goals, and finnally joining in IC is closed in that RP so our hands are tied anyway)

Well. I can't say I am happy. But its one less communist. If you ever want back in, we'll be right here.

OOC: silly commies, silly militant capitalists. When are you going to learn? the middle way is best for all. :P

We withdraw from the TBA
The Alliance is saddened to see Your Great nation Withdraw.

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If anybody wants some free territory come and take part in the invasion of this petulant nation who is threat to our national security.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7217127#post7217127

will do

To: Dailey
From: Nikoloas the Great

Hello this Emperor Nikolaos of Greece and would like to get Greece in this alliance. Please reply back as soon as possible.
-Nikolaos the Great, Emperor of Greece

I support Nikolas the great.

We second Greece's application(ha, now you can't support JA if war breaks out).

OOC: Lol, true. But if he did he would find himself lost for allies. The balkan alliance would remove him and we would stop trade.

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To: Dailey
From: Nikoloas the Great

Hello this Emperor Nikolaos of Greece and would like to get Greece in this alliance. Please reply back as soon as possible.
-Nikolaos the Great, Emperor of Greece
i Second the aceptance into the TBA Alliance making it official.

Welcome to the TBA

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OOC: Dailey: Thanks for letting me in.
Doomingsland: Remember I pulled out all support for JA in that conflict?
Borman empire: You wouldent do that lol

Wirraway. What crimes did those anarchists commit?

I cant be bothered to read your thread or anything, its huge and has descended into war. Just awnser me that.

OOC: Dailey: Thanks for letting me in.
Doomingsland: Remember I pulled out all support for JA in that conflict?
Borman empire: You wouldent do that lol

Oh yes we would. If you helped JA we would sever everything with you.

Wirraway. What crimes did those anarchists commit?

I cant be bothered to read your thread or anything, its huge and has descended into war. Just awnser me that.

They were just being Anarchists, which by definition, means that they were plotting to overthrow my government.

Not necessarily. Anarchists are just those who beleive in anarchy. Doesnt mean they will overthrow, thye may just move away. Racists may be equally foolish, but not all racists burn people of a different origin.

Notquiteaplace condemns your actions on this affair. There are anarchist nations, so send them there. The role of the alliance is to condemn actions like yours. Or of them is, and as usual its members spoil its name.

I wont ask for some sort of justice here as threatening to walk causes Dailey to retract it. When I would have let a nation leave if it cant face the consequences of its actions in his situation.

Not necessarily. Anarchists are just those who beleive in anarchy. Doesnt mean they will overthrow, thye may just move away. Racists may be equally foolish, but not all racists burn people of a different origin.

Notquiteaplace condemns your actions on this affair. There are anarchist nations, so send them there. The role of the alliance is to condemn actions like yours. Or of them is, and as usual its members spoil its name.

I wont ask for some sort of justice here as threatening to walk causes Dailey to retract it. When I would have let a nation leave if it cant face the consequences of its actions in his situation.
As we have saided before we can not condall actions like those done to these Anarchists however it is an internal afaire and we do not have in any right to argue about it. we may not like the actions but we have no rights in internal afairse of any member nation nore any none member nation. Read the Alliance statements again. (Statement 9 to be exact)

Im just saying we should condemn it. One of our members is actively performing it. We should be condemning it and offering an alternative. Im not asking for radical action, just that we actually stick to the ideals of our alliance.

Our role is to say " you shouldnt do that, here move them to *insert name of nation that would take them* instead".

Thats all ive been pushing since the begining, but it seems many of these 'members' are not even capable of that.

Im just saying we should condemn it. One of our members is actively performing it. We should be condemning it and offering an alternative. Im not asking for radical action, just that we actually stick to the ideals of our alliance.

Our role is to say " you shouldnt do that, here move them to *insert name of nation that would take them* instead".

Thats all ive been pushing since the begining, but it seems many of these 'members' are not even capable of that.

OOC:Are you Having fun Draging the alliance throu the mud? The Alliance is like all alliances: not perfect. so deal with it.

give me a link to this topic you speak of and i will consider reading it.

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OOC:I advise all members to reread the TBA Alliance statements and try to fallow them to the best of your abuilty. There has been some rumurse of some nations wishing to leave because the Members (Top members in peticular) have been breaking one of our key statements. Statement #6 has been broken by many members of this alliance. Insted of Aproving the actions we are to say that We do not aprove of such actions. Also some members have draged TBA's name throu the mud in wars were they are the cause. This has to Stop and Stop now. TBA Dose not go to war unless a majority of the alliance has voted on the isue in the forum. As Founding member of the alliance it is my Job to isue an order to the First members of the alliance. You all were around when the alliance statements were drawn up and most of you signed the statements. I find that it is Dishonorable to go agaist mostly all the Statements this alliance holds in high regards.

OOC:To The Ministers of the Alliance If you do not Introduce Your Minister on the Alliance Forum Within the next RL Week you will loose your ministry seat to a more reliable member.

OOC: I wanst one of the first. And I don't drag TBA through the mud. I only think Ihave asked for aid 2 times. When It wasn't my fault. Just to clear it up.

OOC: I wanst one of the first. And I don't drag TBA through the mud. I only think Ihave asked for aid 2 times. When It wasn't my fault. Just to clear it up.
the ones in truble know who they are.

I'm bringing this up on the internation TBA topic because only a minority of the TBA alliance has joined the TBA forum and only about 2% of those that have joined the TBA Forum have been posting and geting involved in the Alliance. The Alliance cant be run byt a minority if it is to survive and last and grow we must work as an alliance and bicker between members and participate in alliance isues on the TBA forum

For those members of the Alliance who are not part of the TBA forum the link is in my Signature and is also in this post
http://s3.invisionfree.com/TBADefence_Aliance/index.php?act=idx

((OOC: I agree with Dailey on this. If you want to be in the alliance, at least join the forum. Also, I don't think I've ever asked the TBA for help except in one case when Borman and me were about to get iced.))

Alright. I read it, the people I removed were launching a revolution. Dooms commies were violent. I think Wirraways were doing something.

registered

Could I have a link to the forum?

Thanks. :)

Its in Daileys signature

Thank you Dailey. The alliance needs some integrity.

THose of you who accuse me or Dailey of dragging us through the mud.

Your actions did this. I dont think I need to argue my point any further.

the link is in the post i made about joining the forum it is also in my signature

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ahahahahaaha beat you to it!

*Picks up frying pan*

*Walks to NQP*

*Beats him over the head with frying pan several times*

"WOW! Look at the BUMP I gave you."

Yo....Daily you havent added my name to the people in this alliance list

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Afmanistan is trying to rebel. Help is appreciated.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=367774

Bump

We ask that the Dark Dimension be removed from this alliance. It is publicly know that the president MURDERED a 5 yr. old for saying he was ugly.

Killing people for their views eh? Sounds familiar.

that would be unfair as certain members have been known to do so also.

I suggest heavy reprimanding and a seriosu warning to them. If they repeat such offences within a couple of NS decades we cast them out.

I oppose all such action, but it feels hypocritical that they dont get a warning first as everyone else has.

Oh and Afmanistan freedom. A message I sent Knight Phalanxia and wish to repeat to all members here.

polite advice, do what I did to ukrin. Im not using the word as there are more tasteful ways to do it. But it begins with "I" and ends with "ore" and theres a couple of letters in the middle.

He really hasnt a clue.

Its a waste of time, and Im not helping as such a nation which can go from firing two missiles and expecting them to get through a state of the art defence system to 600 n00ks (which through numbers have a chance, but he wouldnt have) obviously doesnt exist. If you know what Im saying.

I killed commies when they revolted. Im pretty sure Doom's commies were violent. But I understand.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

There has been enoucoragement and so on. And you did neglect to mention that they were violent. As if you were killing them for their stance not their actions...

Our commies can vote so they arent violent. The rest of the nation dont want them in, and the present government keeps most groups happy, so we dont have that problem.

But yeah. I Condemned the act and told him if he does it again things will be different. Thats pretty fair I think. Its all Ive ever wanted for alliance justice. You step out line, you get warned. You repeat quickly and with no regard for the warning. You leave. I think is firm but fair.