NationStates Jolt Archive


Death of Jews in Torres

Chellis
25-08-2004, 02:19
Recently, a number of Jews proliferated into chellis, under the guise of being sirithilists, which are the only allowed religion in torres(A chellian territory)(not calling atheism a religion, which is the majority belief). Recent spying on these groups allowed chellis to uncover more than 10,000 jews in torres, an outstanding number.

These jews have been jailed for a few weeks as of now. Chellis would normally deport these people, or jail them indefidentally, for being religious. However, these jews knew the laws, and blatantly defied them, instead of being unaware, etc.

All of the jews are planned to be executed in Torres, by gunshot(the standard method of execution in chellis, seen as the most honorable way). Three hundred have already been killed. Chellis doesn't prefer to kill people, but when the law is blatantly defied, a point has to be made.
Kahta
25-08-2004, 02:30
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Kahta comdemns these actions.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 02:33
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Kahta comdemns these actions.

Chellis wonders why?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349871

Kahta seems to have little high-ground.
Irondin
25-08-2004, 02:34
Irondin must say that killing peaple just to make a point to a nation is as low as a nation can stoop. Irondin Condems this Holocost
Kahta
25-08-2004, 02:36
We didnt kill them. They were deported to impress the Queen of Kahta.
Communist Mississippi
25-08-2004, 02:40
We didnt kill them. They were deported to impress the Queen of Kahta.


And she was indeed impressed.
Ravea
25-08-2004, 02:46
........Sigh......

Why must you persacute other religions? Why not just let people live in peace?

Ravea hearby cuts off all trading relations with Chellis. These sactions will remain in place unless the rest of the jews are freed. If all are killed, Ravea will cut off all trade and diplomatic relations with Chellis until we see fit.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 02:47
We didnt kill them. They were deported to impress the Queen of Kahta.

Killing 10,000 is worse than deporting 140,000,000?

Also, to Irondin:

We are not killing them to make a point. Religion is banned in chellis, except sirithilism which is allowed in torres. We usually dont kill them, but these jews explicitly defied the law.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 02:49
........Sigh......

Why must you persacute other religions? Why not just let people live in peace?

Ravea hearby cuts off all trading relations with Chellis. These sactions will remain in place unless the rest of the jews are freed. If all are killed, Ravea will cut off all trade and diplomatic relations with Chellis until we see fit.

Chellis is mercantilist, so the sanctions are hardly harmful. The only people this hurts are Ravea citizens, who might not get chellian products which are so proliferated(and well made, and cheap).

Religion is illegal in chellis, for the most part.
Irondin
25-08-2004, 02:49
Killing 10,000 is worse than deporting 140,000,000?

Also, to Irondin:

We are not killing them to make a point. Religion is banned in chellis, except sirithilism which is allowed in torres. We usually dont kill them, but these jews explicitly defied the law.

dont all Crimes Explicitly defied the law?
imported_ViZion
25-08-2004, 02:52
Chellis, you and I have never had much of anything going when it comes to confrontations, but ViZion will not allow you to do this. Killing people who hold a believe is considered genocide in ViZion's book. We ask that you send these people to ViZion, and we will not have a problem. But, you know how I am about this. This will cause a war if you commit genocide here. We do not want to fight you, but we will if you make us. Please, deport these people to ViZion, we ask you this. Deport them anywhere where they will be tolerated. But, we will not stand to let you kill them for a belief that is not harming anyone. They have harmed no one, thus you do not have the right to kill them.

Thank you,
President Maybury
Grenval
25-08-2004, 03:01
Official Presidential Statement

While Grenval respects the sovereign nation, this act is blatant religious persecution, not ignorance of the law. This is unacceptable. All Jews are to be deported to Grenval immediately, and any and all economic, military, or relations in general have been cut off with Chellis until this deportation is carried out. At which time, Grenval will continue to monitor the situation, from afar, for other human rights abuses.

President George
Ruler of Grenval
Chellis
25-08-2004, 03:11
Chellis, you and I have never had much of anything going when it comes to confrontations, but ViZion will not allow you to do this. Killing people who hold a believe is considered genocide in ViZion's book. We ask that you send these people to ViZion, and we will not have a problem. But, you know how I am about this. This will cause a war if you commit genocide here. We do not want to fight you, but we will if you make us. Please, deport these people to ViZion, we ask you this. Deport them anywhere where they will be tolerated. But, we will not stand to let you kill them for a belief that is not harming anyone. They have harmed no one, thus you do not have the right to kill them.

Thank you,
President Maybury

This policy of chellis's has run for hundreds of years. While most religious citizens of chellis who are prosecuted are only illegal of being religious, these jews lied to authorities, hid their crimes, and tried to surpass chellian law, instead of just believing in something illegal.

We do NOT ship chellians to other nations. We have closed borders, and we are strict in keeping chellians in the homeland, or one of chellis's territories. We are reasonable; We let the sirithilists migrate to Torres, as they were the largest 'religion' in chellis.

We will be killing about 4,000 jews total. The rest seem to have only been going along with the other jews, and their only crime is being religious. They will recieve standard treatment.
Kahta
25-08-2004, 03:12
Killing 10,000 is worse than deporting 140,000,000?

Also, to Irondin:

We are not killing them to make a point. Religion is banned in chellis, except sirithilism which is allowed in torres. We usually dont kill them, but these jews explicitly defied the law.


Yes, we did not *kill* a single one. And we compensated them all with $1 MIllion.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 03:17
Yes, we did not *kill* a single one. And we compensated them all with $1 MIllion.

You gave 140t dollars to them in total? Right...
Irondin
25-08-2004, 03:19
You gave 140t dollars to them in total? Right...


Ya I am going to have to agray with him 140t?
imported_ViZion
25-08-2004, 03:28
This policy of chellis's has run for hundreds of years. While most religious citizens of chellis who are prosecuted are only illegal of being religious, these jews lied to authorities, hid their crimes, and tried to surpass chellian law, instead of just believing in something illegal.

We do NOT ship chellians to other nations. We have closed borders, and we are strict in keeping chellians in the homeland, or one of chellis's territories. We are reasonable; We let the sirithilists migrate to Torres, as they were the largest 'religion' in chellis.

We will be killing about 4,000 jews total. The rest seem to have only been going along with the other jews, and their only crime is being religious. They will recieve standard treatment.
4,000 is 4,000 to many. You are still committing genocide.

If you are reasonable, you will not kill them.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 03:31
4,000 is 4,000 to many. You are still committing genocide.

If you are reasonable, you will not kill them.

and If you are reasonable, you will leave this alone. You will not change our policies which we have LONG HELD.
imported_ViZion
25-08-2004, 03:42
Since when is genocide considered "the right thing" to do. If they cause so much trouble, we are willing to accept them, as are other nations.
Japanese States
25-08-2004, 03:58
OOC: wow im on the bring of a race war and plotting to commit Mass genocide and you kill 4,000 jews and all of a sudden its Genocide? genocide is completely wipeing out something from earth or your nation...i dont see him/her doing that unless 4,000 is the total amount of jews in your nation lol

IC:
"why is it that all you people have to put your noise where it dont belong? the people knew the law, Broke it then tryed to hide the fact that they were infact braking the law. is he not allowed to uphold his laws? your all Pigs snorting around where your snout dont belong. the Japanese States stands by Chellis right to uphold his law"
Sucami Tokunaga Minister External Affiars

OOC: this is not ment to be taken as a flame just what my nation is say to you people
Vastiva
25-08-2004, 09:52
OOC Chellis, why are you being intentionally inflammatory?
Dxdark
25-08-2004, 10:02
Dxdark condemns such actions. Why do these people be killed because of what they believe in or what country they are from? Such a mass murder of Jews is not accepted by our standards and all trade agreements with Chellis will be cut off until further notice
Axis Nova
25-08-2004, 10:06
OOC Chellis, why are you being intentionally inflammatory?

OOC: Agreed. This looks suspiciously like something Chellis thought up that he knew IDF would respond to.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
25-08-2004, 10:06
"Az weer awl spelin lyke fife yeer owlds i fowt ide join in .... appy?"
Praetonia
25-08-2004, 10:08
^^ The hell?
HIV
25-08-2004, 10:42
Though my nation is National Socialist and the last to want to comment on genocide I believe that while the Jews have broken your laws 4000 neednt be slaughtered. Only the ringleaders need to be so as to set an example for the rest of them.
Chellis
25-08-2004, 20:46
Religion is illegal in chellis. It is a crime to be a jew, a christian, or anything else in chellis. If someone murdurs another person in one country, he will be put to death. In other nations, he will be put in jail for life, or maybe not even for life, or at all. All nations choose what laws to enact, and what the punishments are.

Religion is illegal in chellis. These jews were circumventing the chellian laws on purpose, to hide. 6,000 of them, we believe, were just jews in torres, probably born there, that joined this group. The 4,000 who will die, whereas 1,500 already have, came from chellis, lied about their religion, and hid their exploits. That is a crime which brings death in chellis.

We dont kill religions in mass. We do not practice genocide. We dont want them here at all, but they are here, and we deal with them. We are commited to chellians living in chellian states. Through work camps and prisons, we hope they will see the light of atheism. They will see that god will not save them from an eternity of prison. To us, death is the ultimate punishment, as you are just gone, forever.

These executions are to make a point, not to be jewish, or religious at all. We dont go into your nations and demand for you to give us your murderers. Whether or not you agree with our punishments, they commited our crimes, and when they became chellians, they became under our laws.
Ferratus
25-08-2004, 21:01
While the nation of Ferratus does not agree that execution is the wisest course of action, we will suport Chellis in this matter. Ferratus has its own laws concerning religion and the practicinng of religion in public places and while the punishments are not so severe, we understand the position of the government of Chellis and fullly support its actions.
Quintero
25-08-2004, 21:19
IC: Quintero News Network (QNN)
HEADLINE NEWS
*Jews to be killed in thousands in the nation of Chellis*
Anchor man Billy Joe Bob "On a sadder note, some child scraped her knee on the elementary school playground", "Back to you Jamy Joe Hansen"
"Your a horrible person Billy, think of all the Jewish lives lost"
"But the little kid, she hurt her knee"
"Die"
"Why should i die, i feel for the kid"
"Because, i know about the hooker, now everyone knows in all the world, no one will like you, and your gonna die"
*Blam*

Next Day

Funeral for Billy
Priest "Billy killed himself yesterday"
"We know!" All the people say in unison
"Known for his love for Children and not for the thousands to die"
"Poor Jews" The people say at Billys funeral
-------------------------------------------------------------
Random Jew story from
Alexander III of Quintero
Psov
25-08-2004, 21:41
Psov cannot understand religious persecution and intolerance. Psov Condemns The very thought of mass execution for religious reasons.
Al-Imvadjah
25-08-2004, 22:39
While we do not like the thought of mass executions or religous persecutions, Al-IMvadjah suports Chellis on this issue. They are not discriminating against Jews in particular nor as an ethnicity, they are upholding their laws. These people blatently flaunted the clearly stated laws of Chellis, and in doing so risked the punishment that they knew was standard. While following this punishment to such extremes (100 would be fine) seems illogical, it is neccessary to maintain order in his country and prevent it from being overrun by evangelicals, who would no longer fear the punishments because they were not carried out this time.
Sanctaphrax
25-08-2004, 22:46
Sanctahrax would request that these Jews be transferred to our nation.
We will put them under surveillance to ensure that they will be unable to go back to Chellis. They do not deserve persecution for their beliefs, we agree that they broke the laws but not every law should carry the death penalty. we will pay for the transfer. Bring them to Sanctaphrax and consider the matter closed.

PR of Sanctaphrax
Chellis
26-08-2004, 06:50
Sanctahrax would request that these Jews be transferred to our nation.
We will put them under surveillance to ensure that they will be unable to go back to Chellis. They do not deserve persecution for their beliefs, we agree that they broke the laws but not every law should carry the death penalty. we will pay for the transfer. Bring them to Sanctaphrax and consider the matter closed.

PR of Sanctaphrax

We keep Chellians in the homeland. What signal will transference send, that you get a free ticket to another nation if you say you are a jew?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
26-08-2004, 07:23
They must remain in their homeland and face the laws of their homeland.
Danarkadia
26-08-2004, 07:42
OOC: Obviously intended to be intentionally inflammatory. Well, so long as we're RPing, here's how I'd reacte.

IC: The Free Land of Danarkadia abhors religious persecution of any kind, by law or not. We condemn these actions and the laws behind them and demand the government of Chellis to allow the offending members of the Jewish faith to seek political asylum within Danarkadia's borders where they may practice their religion freely without violating the laws of Chellis.
Vastiva
26-08-2004, 07:53
This policy of chellis's has run for hundreds of years. While most religious citizens of chellis who are prosecuted are only illegal of being religious, these jews lied to authorities, hid their crimes, and tried to surpass chellian law, instead of just believing in something illegal.

We do NOT ship chellians to other nations. We have closed borders, and we are strict in keeping chellians in the homeland, or one of chellis's territories. We are reasonable; We let the sirithilists migrate to Torres, as they were the largest 'religion' in chellis.

We will be killing about 4,000 jews total. The rest seem to have only been going along with the other jews, and their only crime is being religious. They will recieve standard treatment.

We note you do not say "executing" but "killing".
We also note you still believe these people to be Chellians, though they disagree completely with your religious system.

We do ask - is your intent slaughter or justice? And if the latter, is not justice best formed of a concoction of mercy and severity, rather then a complete reliance upon one or the other?

Edit We note Chellian authorities have seen fit to execute only the ringleaders of this movement. We do applaude their mercy in this matter.

We would ask how Chellian authorities are doing on their attempts to discover cells of Christians and Muslims within thier nation. Most certainly, should Chellis request such, Vastiva would with reluctance turn over several thousand names which we assume have some relation to the latter two groups. It will then become most interesting to view how Chellian authorities deal with those individuals.

Yes, yes, our curiosity is piqued. Enclosed shall be found no fewer then 28,000 names known to have some connection to Christian groups, and 36,000 names known to have connections to Islam. We reluctantly point out all individuals inhabit Chellis, but it is not Vastivan policy to harbor or protect criminals of any sort. As such, we give this information freely, knowing full well what sort of justice will await these people.
Chellis
26-08-2004, 08:06
We note you do not say "executing" but "killing".
We also note you still believe these people to be Chellians, though they disagree completely with your religious system.

We do ask - is your intent slaughter or justice? And if the latter, is not justice best formed of a concoction of mercy and severity, rather then a complete reliance upon one or the other?

There is no room for mercy in chellis. We want justice, and we feel these religious chellians need to be an example of just how severe we are against religion.

We dont play in with semantics, either. We use the word killing because death is the absolute worst thing in chellian society. Any killing is slaughter, it is just often nessecary.

We try to show these religious chellians the truth of atheism, and if we feel they make a recovery, then they are let back into chellian society, under probation. We feel these jews have no chance of rehabilitation, and that the loss of the citizens would be more productive, in discouraging more...jewry, for a better word... than the loss in economic manpower would be. This is what is best for chellis, and we see no reason to deviate from our plans.

Danarkadia: Thats the worst of both worlds, for us. Again, what kind of message does that send to the jews? We lose labour, and send a bad message to chellian citizens?
Vastiva
30-08-2004, 06:46
To repeat, we note Chellian authorities have seen fit to execute only the ringleaders of this movement. We do applaude their mercy in this matter.

We would ask how Chellian authorities are doing on their attempts to discover cells of Christians and Muslims within thier nation. Most certainly, should Chellis request such, Vastiva would with reluctance turn over several thousand names which we assume have some relation to the latter two groups. It will then become most interesting to view how Chellian authorities deal with those individuals.

Yes, yes, our curiosity is piqued. Enclosed shall be found no fewer then 28,000 names known to have some connection to Christian groups, and 36,000 names known to have connections to Islam. We reluctantly point out all individuals inhabit Chellis, but it is not Vastivan policy to harbor or protect criminals of any sort. As such, we give this information freely, knowing full well what sort of justice will await these people.
Iuthia
30-08-2004, 06:52
[Assuming I haven't already done this previously...]

>>Adding "Chellis" to black list......

>>Data Transfer complete.

>>Ceasing all trade with "Chellis".......

>>Estimated losses in Iuthian revenue: $00.00 (USD)

>>Electronic Transfers blocked, mailmerge sent to Iuthian business owners...
Chellis
30-08-2004, 08:48
To repeat, we note Chellian authorities have seen fit to execute only the ringleaders of this movement. We do applaude their mercy in this matter.

We would ask how Chellian authorities are doing on their attempts to discover cells of Christians and Muslims within thier nation. Most certainly, should Chellis request such, Vastiva would with reluctance turn over several thousand names which we assume have some relation to the latter two groups. It will then become most interesting to view how Chellian authorities deal with those individuals.

Yes, yes, our curiosity is piqued. Enclosed shall be found no fewer then 28,000 names known to have some connection to Christian groups, and 36,000 names known to have connections to Islam. We reluctantly point out all individuals inhabit Chellis, but it is not Vastivan policy to harbor or protect criminals of any sort. As such, we give this information freely, knowing full well what sort of justice will await these people.

While Chellis would not reject the list of names, we aren't in any hurry to get them. We arent overly concerned with single individuals, or very small groups, believing in a religion. While we would prefer them to realize the Chellian way, going after every single thought of every single Chellian would just make martyrs. We are more interested in destroying groups, meeting places, leaders, etc. Death penalty, again, is only used in extreme cases, like this.

Over three billion Chellians realize the Chellian way. Over 3 billion, two hundred Chellians have realized our way. Most of the rest are sirithilists in torres. People dont light patches of grass on fire, as it can cause the entire garden to burn. Weeds, however, are cut.
Sanctaphrax
30-08-2004, 15:15
They are not a small group.
They are over three times the amount of Jews that were caught.
Prove that you are doing this purely to uphold the laws and not as discrimination. Surely they are breaking your laws in the same way the Jews are??? Therefore they deserve the same punishment.
Jeruselem
30-08-2004, 15:26
Hundreds of street marchers claiming to be members of the group called Atheism Now headed towards the Old City of Jerusalem with banner in support of Chellis's actions. The noisy group marched unopposed towards the walls of the Old city until they were incapacitated by an unknown gas fired from Jeruselem Army Armoured Vehicles waiting for them. Soldiers with gas masks picked up the unconcious protesters, piled them into a truck and cleaned up the street. Another vehicle vacuumed off any remaining gas and the army disappeared as soon as they appeared.

Later that day, police showed the hidden weapons which the protesters were planning to use. An array of homemade and black market Russian explosives shocked the press as well as protest banners with hidden gun barrels. The police chief said "An informant in the group told us they were planning to blow up the Dome of the Rock. This is why we took drastic action"
Waffen-SS Ostland
30-08-2004, 15:54
The Reichsprotektorat of Waffen-SS Ostland declares the solidarity of the Volk with the people of Chellis in their solution of the Jewish problem in their nation.
Waffen-SS Ostland
30-08-2004, 16:00
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Kahta comdemns these actions.

Given your clear-headed manner of dealing with Africans and Bolshevists, we
are mystified at your solicitude for the Jews.
Menoth
30-08-2004, 17:42
Menoth condems these actions of deadly religious persecution. We would also like to notify anyone religious in Chellis that if they can make it to Menoth asylum and full citizenship will be granted to them.

-Hajjaj, Minister of the Department of Foriegn Affairs
Chellis
30-08-2004, 23:48
Menoth condems these actions of deadly religious persecution. We would also like to notify anyone religious in Chellis that if they can make it to Menoth asylum and full citizenship will be granted to them.

-Hajjaj, Minister of the Department of Foriegn Affairs

Doubtful, as most chellians wont even hear of this offer, and most chellians cant afford to leave the country(high migration taxes). Richer people are not religious, as they become more scrutinized, as they get more money. There are few chellians outside chellian lands, for good reason.

To: Sanctaphrax

You misunderstand us. We would not reject the list, and arrests would be made. We dont particularly care for taking out every poor, religious individual(36,000 individuals, or a single group of 10,000...we choose the 10,000). We have no particular bias towards jews, we believe they are just as deluded and idiotic as the protestants, the muslims, the roman catholics and the jesuits. In fact, the most deaths and imprisonments have been those of protestants(calvinists mostly), jews ranking about third.

Again, we arent overly concerned with a small percentage of single individuals, we are saying this because Vastiva is hesitant to give the list, and we would rather not pressure them. We are happy to have the list, and the citizens would be arrested and probably be brought to work camps.
Sanctaphrax
30-08-2004, 23:56
Doubtful, as most chellians wont even hear of this offer, and most chellians cant afford to leave the country(high migration taxes). Richer people are not religious, as they become more scrutinized, as they get more money. There are few chellians outside chellian lands, for good reason.

To: Sanctaphrax

You misunderstand us. We would not reject the list, and arrests would be made. We dont particularly care for taking out every poor, religious individual(36,000 individuals, or a single group of 10,000...we choose the 10,000). We have no particular bias towards jews, we believe they are just as deluded and idiotic as the protestants, the muslims, the roman catholics and the jesuits. In fact, the most deaths and imprisonments have been those of protestants(calvinists mostly), jews ranking about third.

Again, we arent overly concerned with a small percentage of single individuals, we are saying this because Vastiva is hesitant to give the list, and we would rather not pressure them. We are happy to have the list, and the citizens would be arrested and probably be brought to work camps.

WORK CAMPS???
*cough WW2 cough*
you're a Nazi!!!
Chellis
31-08-2004, 00:54
WORK CAMPS???
*cough WW2 cough*
you're a Nazi!!!

We arent religious, nor socialist, nor german. Hardly nazi.

We place religious citizens in work camps, and part of the work camps are re-education programs. If we feel a citizen is converted, we let them go. It just isnt often.
Vastiva
31-08-2004, 09:08
Sanctaphrax, you misunderstand our intent. We do not support religious persecution of any sort, but Chellisian internal politics are just that - internal politics. As such, they are outside Vastivan authority, and we have no desire for anything but peaceful relations with Chellis.

Our purpose in giving our native intellegence information was to show our neutrality. We do not support terrorism of any sort, including religious terrorism. We will not support a mass illegal exodus of persons from an allied nation. We will not support the creation of illegal religious cells within an allied nation, for such would be a form of terrorism - Ideological Terrorism.

While it would be our internal opinion the Chellians convicted of such should be deported - perhaps to our colony, there to be put to work ala Austrailia - that decision must be Chellisian in nature.
Sanctaphrax
31-08-2004, 09:53
Sanctaphrax, you misunderstand our intent. We do not support religious persecution of any sort, but Chellisian internal politics are just that - internal politics. As such, they are outside Vastivan authority, and we have no desire for anything but peaceful relations with Chellis.

Our purpose in giving our native intellegence information was to show our neutrality. We do not support terrorism of any sort, including religious terrorism. We will not support a mass illegal exodus of persons from an allied nation. We will not support the creation of illegal religious cells within an allied nation, for such would be a form of terrorism - Ideological Terrorism.

While it would be our internal opinion the Chellians convicted of such should be deported - perhaps to our colony, there to be put to work ala Austrailia - that decision must be Chellisian in nature.
i didn't misunderstand you.
I just said that if he's persecuting Jews then he should persecute Muslims and Christians as well.
Bilat al Sham
31-08-2004, 11:09
We, the most glorious Government of Bilat al Sham,

recognize the internal nature of the Chellian laws. It is Our belief that laws must not be broken by ones country subjects. However, We are convinced, that the Chellian laws show a fundamental lack of humanity in this matter. Therefore we condemn them.

We hereby offer asylum for all religious subjects of Chellis and are willing to assist them in leaving there country in every possible way.

The Omnipotent Sultan,
Sheikh al-Jebel
Praetonia
31-08-2004, 11:13
We arent religious, nor socialist, nor german. Hardly nazi.
OOC: Just a point, but Nazis weren't neccessarily religious, socialists are right at the other end (far left rather than far right) of the political spectrum and you dont have to be German to be a Fascist (*points at Spain and Italy to name a few*).
Sanctaphrax
31-08-2004, 12:15
OOC: Just a point, but Nazis weren't neccessarily religious, socialists are right at the other end (far left rather than far right) of the political spectrum and you dont have to be German to be a Fascist (*points at Spain and Italy to name a few*).
I was pointing out that the "work camps" were a nazi idea. 2+2.
Chellis
31-08-2004, 22:07
We, the most glorious Government of Bilat al Sham,

recognize the internal nature of the Chellian laws. It is Our belief that laws must not be broken by ones country subjects. However, We are convinced, that the Chellian laws show a fundamental lack of humanity in this matter. Therefore we condemn them.

We hereby offer asylum for all religious subjects of Chellis and are willing to assist them in leaving there country in every possible way.

The Omnipotent Sultan,
Sheikh al-Jebel

Chellian borders have been closed to Bilat al Sham, although they are closed to most nations anyway. If you attempt to bring men through our borders, the border guards will stop them, so theres pretty much no way you can help them.

Also, Sancta, it may have been used by the nazis, it doesnt make me a nazi, nor anyone who uses them. We will prosecute who we see fit, and that isnt only jews. We will not, however, be told how to rule by other nations. Chellis is, and always has been, the most sovereign of nations.
Nussvilla
31-08-2004, 22:29
Due to The Obvius crimes committed by the chellien Government The land of Talsien And her neibhors do here by declare war upon Chellis. We shall ensure the freedoms of ALL. :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :mad:
Vastiva
01-09-2004, 07:18
Due to The Obvius crimes committed by the chellien Government The land of Talsien And her neibhors do here by declare war upon Chellis. We shall ensure the freedoms of ALL. :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :mad:

*bombards Nussvilla with several thousand tons of dictionaries and basic english and law texts... Book Publishing industry cheers sudden influx of goverment contracts!*

Ab-shalom and greetings.

A nation working within its own soverign borders may do what it likes without interference for the most part. The only crimes committed were those against Chellisian law.

Now back off before you hurt yourself. The pointy end is supposed to point towards the other person.
Laissez Nous Faire
01-09-2004, 08:04
The republic of Laissez Nous Faire spearheads a freedom loving coalition in a surprise attack of Chellis.

Said the secretary of war:

We do not subscribe to the widely accepted paradigm that a state has the right to govern itself as it pleases. People have rights wherever they live and it's our job to defend those rights, wherever they are violated.

Some say we should not meddle, but we don't see it like that. In the same way that if someone violates a person within our boundaries he or she is held responsible through the justice system we in the military will persecute states that violates their citizens and the laws of nature.

Apparently there are people in Chellis that are being oppressed by the government; some have been killed for their beliefs and their unbreakable right to live out those beliefs. We want to make these people know that they are not alone in the world - there are people with consciences that are fighting for them.

Our fundamentalist libertarian soldiers will if need be die for the freedom of people everywhere.
Vastiva
01-09-2004, 08:11
Hey look! The world's policeman has arrived!

This should be good. Have you had a look at the human rights violations by Communist Mississippi lately? Makes Chellis look like a girl scout. Make that a goldfish.
Sythur
01-09-2004, 08:25
:rolleyes: what i'm seeing is another reanactment of 1930 germany whatever happend to tolerance!? at least ship the remaining jews out of the country! or let sythur take them in! Recently, a number of Jews proliferated into chellis, under the guise of being sirithilists, which are the only allowed religion in torres(A chellian territory)(not calling atheism a religion, which is the majority belief). Recent spying on these groups allowed chellis to uncover more than 10,000 jews in torres, an outstanding number.

These jews have been jailed for a few weeks as of now. Chellis would normally deport these people, or jail them indefidentally, for being religious. However, these jews knew the laws, and blatantly defied them, instead of being unaware, etc.

All of the jews are planned to be executed in Torres, by gunshot(the standard method of execution in chellis, seen as the most honorable way). Three hundred have already been killed. Chellis doesn't prefer to kill people, but when the law is blatantly defied, a point has to be made.
Chellis
01-09-2004, 09:20
:rolleyes: what i'm seeing is another reanactment of 1930 germany whatever happend to tolerance!? at least ship the remaining jews out of the country! or let sythur take them in!

3,200 are already dead, the rest soon to be killed. Again, AGAIN, what kind of message does it send to these illegal jews in hiding, that they can declare themselves and get a free ticket out of chellis?

To Leave us alone(Laissez nous faire):

"A nation of hypocrites. Ton nom, Laissez nous faire, yet you wont extend the same courtesy upon others? Tu es un nation du retards! Avec Chellis, tu veux Guerre? Merci! A Guerre!

Do not call the thunder, or we shall reap the whirlwind."
Momanguise
01-09-2004, 09:32
ooc: Dosen't Retard mean 'late' in French?

IC: We condemn these actions, pointing out the blatant violation of international law etc etc...
Laissez Nous Faire
01-09-2004, 10:01
To Leave us alone(Laissez nous faire):

"A nation of hypocrites. Ton nom, Laissez nous faire, yet you wont extend the same courtesy upon others? Tu es un nation du retards! Avec Chellis, tu veux Guerre? Merci! A Guerre!

Do not call the thunder, or we shall reap the whirlwind."

As more informed governments will know the name of Laissez Nous Faire comes from the way our citizens wish us to treat them, not how we wish to be treated by other states. The people has fundamental rights, governments do not. Therefor our interference in what you may think is your own business is neither hypocritical nor in conflict with our states fundamentalis libertarian views.

We come to free your people and we come with the wrath of righteousness.
Chellis
02-09-2004, 07:43
As more informed governments will know the name of Laissez Nous Faire comes from the way our citizens wish us to treat them, not how we wish to be treated by other states. The people has fundamental rights, governments do not. Therefor our interference in what you may think is your own business is neither hypocritical nor in conflict with our states fundamentalis libertarian views.

We come to free your people and we come with the wrath of righteousness.

Official statement from the Chellian foreign minister:

"Tu veux un guerre? Mange merde et mourir."