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AP Jerusalem, IDF:
by Staff Reporter Kelly Robertson

The IDF Knesset has decided to activate the Jewish Defense Alliance against Communist Mississippi. This action comes after CM has started killing Jews and making them a scapegoat for their Government's failings. IDF intends to bring all Jews and anti-fascist together to kill the evil nation that has committed Genocide for generations.

"This is it," said IDF President Jerry Reinsdorf in an interview. "The line has been crossed and CM will pay for it. We are calling on all nations to join us and kill this great Devil."

The Knesset voted 315-5 on a resolution for an ultimatum giving him 6 hours to back down. The IDF Navy, army, Marines, and AF have all been activated and are deploying in Indiana and Illinois along with Whittier lands and off his coast to prepare for a possible war. Blockades will be tried. IDF also may have to end the CM occupation in Egypt if a war becomes neccessary

We already backed down, you need to read it. Police stepped in to crush the mobs of anti-jewish protestors.

never mind

CM right now is about as weak as the USSR on January 1, 1992. Any further oppression by them is going to result in a giant collapse of whatever they have left.

If all Jews in the world unite, they may need to rent a gym to house everyone! LOl

While we praise others taking a stand for the good of the Jewish people, our intelligence suggests that Communist Mississippi has already backed down from the actions you have mentioned, and have made positive if tenuous moves towards increasing freedoms - Making threats in the name of the Jewish people is only likely to make us appear warmongers amongst the people of Communist Mississippi just as their government appears to be moving in a more correct direction.

We would like to offer you our support (both militarily and monetarily) in future actions in support of the Jewish people, however - we simply think the threat of force on this occasion will do more harm than good.

Dimitri Onoshin, Kelonian Foreign Minister,
Kelojna Fedralna mer Staatgeren Sayuz
(Federal Union of Kelonian States)

We already backed down, you need to read it. Police stepped in to crush the mobs of anti-jewish protestors.

no you didn't our agents in CM have told us that those protestors were protecting Jews, not harming them and you attacked them for helping Jews. This alliance will defeat you for it.

While we praise others taking a stand for the good of the Jewish people, our intelligence suggests that Communist Mississippi has already backed down from the actions you have mentioned, and have made positive if tenuous moves towards increasing freedoms - Making threats in the name of the Jewish people is only likely to make us appear warmongers amongst the people of Communist Mississippi just as their government appears to be moving in a more correct direction.

We would like to offer you our support (both militarily and monetarily) in future actions in support of the Jewish people, however - we simply think the threat of force on this occasion will do more harm than good.

Dimitri Onoshin, Kelonian Foreign Minister,
Kelojna Fedralna mer Staatgeren Sayuz
(Federal Union of Kelonian States)


our sources say otherwise

no you didn't our agents in CM have told us that those protestors were protecting Jews, not harming them and you attacked them for helping Jews. This alliance will defeat you for it.



Ooc:
I'm tried of people RPing what my citizens do. I say they were anti-jewish protesters, so that it is.

our sources say otherwise



Ooc: Well your sources can take a long walk off a short pier. My IC RP statements say otherwise!

Ooc:
I'm tried of people RPing what my citizens do. I say they were anti-jewish protesters, so that it is.

When we have numerous agents in your police and government we learn the truth that they weren't anti-Jewish protestors, but pro-Jewish

When we have numerous agents in your police and government we learn the truth that they weren't anti-Jewish protestors, but pro-Jewish

Ooc: Again I'd like to know how you get informants from a different race, infiltrated into a white only nation. And I've RPed it as anti-jewish, you cannot just say otherwise. I am now within my rights to ignore you.

When we have numerous agents in your police and government we learn the truth that they weren't anti-Jewish protestors, but pro-Jewish

OOC: His civilians, his control.

Unless, of course, your government is lying to the international community in order to facilitate a war. Which, if the truth is revealed, will be catastrophic for you. But, since you ignore RL tech, i won't be doing anything about it. (Other than to point out that it will only increase anti-semitic feelings across CM when you try to occupy. Good plan pal.)

Ooc: Again I'd like to know how you get informants from a different race, infiltrated into a white only nation. And I've RPed it as anti-jewish, you cannot just say otherwise. I am now within my rights to ignore you.

IDF: You cant RP what his people do.

CM: Just for the benefit of the RP, he has spies within your government.

OOC: His civilians, his control.

Unless, of course, your government is lying to the international community in order to facilitate a war. Which, if the truth is revealed, will be catastrophic for you. But, since you ignore RL tech, i won't be doing anything about it. (Other than to point out that it will only increase anti-semitic feelings across CM when you try to occupy. Good plan pal.)
OOC: If I go to war with CM, there will be no occupation, just the destruction of a nation with 0 allies

Our sources say otherwise
IC:
We are not saying they have stopped their racist ways altogether - a country riddled with such problems for so long cannot be expected to simply 'snap out of it', and yes it is true most of the moves they have made towards fairness have been under the pressure of the international community, but moves have indeed been made.

The oppression and peoples based on religion or race must be stopped, but it is not a problem we can expect to realistically disappear overnight - we feel that by offering encouragement for progress rather than threats for lack of it is a more productive way to get things done - we're currently keeping a close eye on Communist Mississippi to see how they behave once the international furore dies down, and while it is a possibility they will go back to their old ways the minute people's backs are turned, treating people like criminals when they are trying to mend their ways is counterproductive.

Dimitri Onoshin, Kelonian Foreign Minister,
Kelojna Fedralna mer Staatgeren Sayuz
(Federal Union of Kelonian States)

OOC:
I'm only going on what his RP's say - I might be being paranoid about godmodding but I'm sticking to what's public knowledge - not very 'undercover intelligence', but nevermind... I don't want to get yelled at :p

OOC: You invade a country without good evidence and attempt to destroy it completely, by which i assume you mean killing everyone, and destroying everything, you'll find the CM suddenly has a lot of big allies.

IDF: You cant RP what his people do.

CM: Just for the benefit of the RP, he has spies within your government.


Ooc: Well from now on I need to make it quite clear. Unless otherwise stated, all CM RPs are invite only, or ask to be invited only. I think that should have been quite clear for a while now, given that all of my RPs are well planned out with willing participants.

If all Jews in the world unite, they may need to rent a gym to house everyone! LOl

That sounds like flamebaiting.

modalert

OOC: If I go to war with CM, there will be no occupation, just the destruction of a nation with 0 allies



Ooc: And you'd suddenly find morale in the CM army go through the roof, the soldiers willing to fight to the death without pay. We've been telling them for the last two decades, that the goal of jewry is to utterly destroy CM, kill the men, ravage the women, enslave the children, etc... You'd be letting them know everything we told them was the truth, and they'd fight to the death. I also highly doubt that you could transport enough of your troops to smash 20 million federal soldiers + 5 million commonwealth troops defending good positions and such. I also doubt you'd be able to stop the LOEL, the NDA, and a few other choice alliances, not to mention 1/2 the world that comes running to stop your genocidal rage which knows no bounds.

IC: "For the safety of jewish citizens, we no longer require jewish shops to display Israeli flags. That law has been revoked and declared null and void." Paul Stahlecker.

That sounds like flamebaiting.

modalert

ooc: Yea, this is a serious rp thread... no flaimbaiting.

ic: ITD has no position on the nature of the Jewish people.

IDF, if you go to war with Communist Mississippi, do not expect support to be forthcoming - our citizens will not support CM, because of their past actions towards our people, but nor will they stand for mass slaughter in the name of the Jews - this would do nothing but fuel anti-semitism and give the people you're trying to stop a huge propaganda boost. Kelonia formally advises you against military action.

Communist Mississippi, while we would condemn any military action by the IDF against your people, please understand our people would not support the deployment of any force to defend a country with your... history.
It would create a political storm like you wouldn't believe.

Zamantha Flakkov, Kelonian Vice-Premier,
Kelojna Fedralna mer Staatgeren Sayuz
(Federal Union of Kelonian States)

Public: "CM is offering to pay for any and all jews who wish to move out of CM to wherever they wish to move to. We are suggesting Israel as we understand they consider this their holy land. Approximately 300,000 dollars per person will be paid to help with the moving and resettling. It is up to the Israeli government and the people being offered the money if they will accept. There are approximately 500,000 jews in the North American Commonwealth territories." Paul Stahlecker.

JDA members and allies of the Jews are the only ones allowed to post on this planning thread

Public: "CM is offering to pay for any and all jews who wish to move out of CM to wherever they wish to move to. We are suggesting Israel as we understand they consider this their holy land. Approximately 300,000 dollars per person will be paid to help with the moving and resettling. It is up to the Israeli government and the people being offered the money if they will accept. There are approximately 500,000 jews in the North American Commonwealth territories." Paul Stahlecker.

We won't pay for it due to the principle, but we will incur all costs of moving them, but your government won't get a dime of profit.

We won't pay for it due to the principle, but we will incur all costs of moving them, but your government won't get a dime of profit.

"We want no profit, we will pay any and all costs. We just want all the people to be safe. We feel because of recent extremist activity by a small number of our citizens, they are unsafe here. We just want everybody to be safe." Paul Stahlecker.

Cost to move the jews to Israel:
150,000,000,000

CM is beginning to use 777s and 747s, and is chartering boats from other nations to move them all.

Sanctaphrax will keep it's troops on alert in case of hostilities by CM.
however we feel that CM's promises to relocate all Jews out of the nation is proof of good will. We are however in the middle of extreme hostilities with Kharson and we invite anyone to join us.

Ooc: We should like to point out that we've helped IDF in the past, against Hatarian Mammalia, we gave you two counties of Indiana. We're not an "anti-semitic" government. We have the difficulty of trying to straddle the issue to please both sides. Our right-wing allies and our domestic anti-semite citizens (large numbers are political anti-semites, only a few are violent, we arrest those who are violent when we can) and then on other side, our moderate allies, etc. It's very hard to please both sides all the time.

o.o.c. I though your economy went to shit recently CM. How can you pay for teh relocation? Also note that I do not support CM in any way. I am doing what I'm doing because of what CM is likely to do to any jewish people left in his country.

I.C. Celack is also concerned about the saftey of the jewish people in CM due to the increasing anti-semetic ideals in CM. Therefore we will be paying for the transport and resettlization of Jewish people anywhere in the world taking some of the financial burden off CM.

o.o.c. I though your economy went to shit recently CM. How can you pay for teh relocation? Also note that I do not support CM in any way. I am doing what I'm doing because of what CM is likely to do to any jewish people left in his country.



Ooc: We raised over 10 trillion dollars selling numerous planes, ships, tanks, weapons and such that we couldn't maintain anyway. So it was either let it rust, or sell it. We sold it. :D

I.C. Celack is also concerned about the saftey of the jewish people in CM due to the increasing anti-semetic ideals in CM. Therefore we will be paying for the transport and resettlization of Jewish people anywhere in the world taking some of the financial burden off CM.


Ic: We accept your offer to pay for them. We have other uses for the money so we are grateful you're offering to pay. We accept.

Chellis views this as just another reason that IDF should be kicked from NATO. CM completely agreed with our terms, gave up his lands, sold of lots of his military, and everything was great. Now a fanatical nation is crying a river because CM is anti-semetic in his own nation.

While for certain reasons we cant defend CM against you(Still ignoring CM), if not for those reasons Israel would be aflame when the first jewish soldier stepped foot on mississippi.

You are on such a short leash it is not funny. Chellis will fully activate the horatio doctrine, and while we wont fight you with bullets, we will fight you in other, important ways. You have no right to interfere with CM's internal policies. None.

Chellis views this as just another reason that IDF should be kicked from NATO. CM completely agreed with our terms, gave up his lands, sold of lots of his military, and everything was great. Now a fanatical nation is crying a river because CM is anti-semetic in his own nation.

While for certain reasons we cant defend CM against you(Still ignoring CM), if not for those reasons Israel would be aflame when the first jewish soldier stepped foot on mississippi.

You are on such a short leash it is not funny. Chellis will fully activate the horatio doctrine, and while we wont fight you with bullets, we will fight you in other, important ways. You have no right to interfere with CM's internal policies. None.
he's a member of the JDA and therefore Anti-Semitism is what he fights, any Anti-Semitic nation IS business of his. However I don't agree with this threat as CM is obviously showing good-will.

TO: IDF
FROM: Communist Louisiana

Your agression has not gone unnoticed to our government. We supported your move into Chicago and you try to bring war to the West?

If not mistaken, Communist Mississippi has pulled out and followed all rules and has done a brilliant job. We warn you that if you wish to pursue an unjust war against him you will have to also fight us. We have more then 12 million troops ready to take Chicago and your territories in the West if you continue to pursue this war.

We say again, if you try to pursue this unjust war with Communist Mississippi the Louisianaian government will support Communist Mississippi. We will invade IDF controlled Chicago and we will take all the civilians and ship them who ever wants them.

Communist Mississippi has worked hard to bring peace and police states like yours are still trying to continue to fight him when their is peace. You are what threatens the world, not Communist Mississippi.

he's a member of the JDA and therefore Anti-Semitism is what he fights, any Anti-Semitic nation IS business of his. However I don't agree with this threat as CM is obviously showing good-will.

Then he should fight me, as it is strictly illegal to be a jew in chellis. He has no right to get involved in other nations buisness, whether he feels he is some jew protector or not. A nation has the right to do what it wants within its own borders, that is why chellis created the Horatio Doctrine.

i support the Jews because i am Jewish.
Shalom

Ooc: So by IDF's theory, I can proclaim my nation to be the "KKK protector" and any nation that refuses to the accept the KKK, is a hostile power and I can meddle in their affairs? Of course not... All nations are sovereign entities and what they do within their own borders is their own business. Besides, this wasn't a government sanctioned pogrom, it was mobs of citizens.

IDF is violating the NATO Charter.

"* All nations are given the right to rule in sovereignty"

He is violating your right of sovereign rule.

TO: Chellis
FROM: CL

We support your views that a nation has the right to rule its people the way it sees fit. We will happily let you base some of your troops in our territory in Wisconsin and the northern penisula(sp?) of Michigan if he tries to pursue this war on CM.

We have about 2 million regulars along the border of Iowa and Illinoise and can easily bring in more.

TO: Chellis
FROM: CL

We support your views that a nation has the right to rule its people the way it sees fit. We will happily let you base some of your troops in our territory in Wisconsin and the northern penisula(sp?) of Michigan if he tries to pursue this war on CM.

We have about 2 million regulars along the border of Iowa and Illinoise and can easily bring in more.

OOC:

A. I ignore CM IC, though its a very loose ignore now

B. A NATO member cannot attack another NATO member, if they do they will be expelled.

IC: Secret: We have to decline, for personal reasons. However, we are willing to supply you with weapons well below normal trade prices, although we arent going to tell you what to use them for...If you catch our drift...

go on,
you all realise that while you're all saying that CM has backed down and that IDF has no right to invade and threatening IDF with war you all failed to notice that IDF HAS BACKED DOWN.
therefore this thread is no longer valid.

TO: Chellis
FROM: CL

We support your views that a nation has the right to rule its people the way it sees fit. We will happily let you base some of your troops in our territory in Wisconsin and the northern penisula(sp?) of Michigan if he tries to pursue this war on CM.

We have about 2 million regulars along the border of Iowa and Illinoise and can easily bring in more.


Ooc: I have over 10 million soldiers in Mississippian Egypt, and several million in Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, etc... War would be horribly bad for him. It'd serve to unite my nation and all the growing calls for reform would be swept aside as the people fall behind the banner of CM and march off to war.

there's no need for war.
he backed down.

go on,
you all realise that while you're all saying that CM has backed down and that IDF has no right to invade and threatening IDF with war you all failed to notice that IDF HAS BACKED DOWN.
therefore this thread is no longer valid.


I guess you're right, this issue is resolved and I consider it over.

I guess you're right, this issue is resolved and I consider it over.
thank you, i hope the rest of you will follow his example.

IDF has still threatened to do action, and is breaking the NATO charter by forcing CM to change its sovereign rules.

IDF has still threatened to do action, and is breaking the NATO charter by forcing CM to change its sovereign rules.
i think that you meant TAKE action not DO action...
haven't you noticed that he hasn't posted in the last two pages???
CM has considered the matter closed, you should do the same.

So if someone threatened to kill the president of (wherever you live), unless that president did something...then the president did it, and the guy wasnt threatening the president anymore...he's not a criminal anymore?

He never took any military action. He's backed down.

He never took any military action. He's backed down.

His threats caused CM to export his jews. Thats action.

"We want no profit, we will pay any and all costs. We just want all the people to be safe. We feel because of recent extremist activity by a small number of our citizens, they are unsafe here. We just want everybody to be safe." Paul Stahlecker.

Cost to move the jews to Israel:
150,000,000,000

CM is beginning to use 777s and 747s, and is chartering boats from other nations to move them all.
GLad we could work out an agreement here

Is this issue over now>?

IDF has still threatened to do action, and is breaking the NATO charter by forcing CM to change its sovereign rules.
Just because I'm a member of NATO doesn't mean I won't do what I've done for a far longer time and stop Genocide of Jews. I informed NATO ahead of time about this and was quietly supported by most members.

I don't care if a nation proclaims itself racist, but if they act they will face my wrath.

Yes it is true that no conflict came out of here, had I not intervened the genocide would still be occuring, but with gunboat diplomacy CM and I reached an agreement, this issue is settled.

Is this issue over now>?
yes

thats good we dont whont a FWS feasco agen

Just because I'm a member of NATO doesn't mean I won't do what I've done for a far longer time and stop Genocide of Jews. I informed NATO ahead of time about this and was quietly supported by most members.

I don't care if a nation proclaims itself racist, but if they act they will face my wrath.

Yes it is true that no conflict came out of here, had I not intervened the genocide would still be occuring, but with gunboat diplomacy CM and I reached an agreement, this issue is settled.

Believe you have support if you like. There is a vote to kick you out of NATO in the Congressional board. 3 have voted for you to be kicked, one abstainance(though he claimed he wanted you out too).

If you dont want to follow the charter, leave.

Believe you have support if you like. There is a vote to kick you out of NATO in the Congressional board. 3 have voted for you to be kicked, one abstainance(though he claimed he wanted you out too).

If you dont want to follow the charter, leave.
it's over!!!
both parties have declared it closed and the matter is of no relevance any more. it is CM's decision and he decided that the matter was closed.