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The Emperor has invited national leaders to Beijing for a Foreign Diplomatic Conference centered at the new policies Beijing will lay forth toward foreign nations. Such policies include the banning of foreign ships within Bohai except for Sino. The banning of foreign troops in China, the relocation of embassies, and a probability of having the Hudecians relocate in Tianjin, away from Xiaguo proper which includes, Heilongjiang, Jilin, and Liaoning. Donguk Special Administrative Region will also be opened up to foreign trade and investment.

The Conference will be held outside the palace at the People's National Congress on the other side of Tiananmen Square.

This conference is important to the future diplomatic relations of China and foreign allies and nations. The conference welcomes anyone representing officially of each country respectively.

I will certainly attend this conference, however high the risk of congregating together might seem. We trust that your security measures will be more than adequate, and hope that we can help ensure a lasting peace in Southeast Asia. It is with high hopes that my nation comes to the table here, and we would be extremely glad if nations such as Dra-pol and Bonstock were to attend as well. Furthermore I thank Xiaguo for offering us all an opportunity to discuss such matters as those important to international stability like civilized people.
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President Mario Corleone
La Repubblica d'Agrigento

Official Statement, FRB Foreign Affairs Dept.:

The Federal Republic of Bonstock would be most willing to attend the confrence, given as this would improve strained relations with the Asian Resistance powers.

It will be an honor and a pleasure to attend this conference. The time is overdue for a discussion on diplomatic matters relating to our region.

President Zhang
Republic of China

Given the uncertain state of our government, although Hudecian diplomats will be in attendance they will not have any power until after our elections are complete. (OOC: prolly in a week or so, but I'll RP as the leading party)

The first day of the conference.

First of all, we would wish to know if our map of China, the recent mapping is genuin and complete. We understand there may be a boundary dispute and such, but we wish to have the suggestions of all cnference delegates and representatives.Our current boundaries is shown on this map.


Second of all, our government has instituted a new set of laws which may effect foreign investment and governments.

The Bohai Sea, which is fairly close to Beijing and Tianjin is now banned to foreign millitary naval craft and some regulated ships. The Armed Republic of Sino however has been given special rights to have ANY ship enter as part of the North-South China diplomacy.Beijing has also decided to move all embassies in Beijing to Tianjin City.

The National Taxes and Trade Regulations Ministry has also placed tariffs on a number of 'topics" of manufactored items. Such tariffs will be based on a 4.25% on a bundle, 2.5% on each item of value more of stated, more tariff rates can be read in the Ministry of Taxes and Trade Regulations Handbook. Items include weapons, weapon related, cars, and various electronics. However, the Ministry has also lifted or lowered the tariffs on any food, printed matter, appliances, health;medicine, equiptment., computers;hardware, software, parts., personal electronics;cellular phones, cd players., Government Sold weapons, equiptment, and such. Many more are stated in the handbook which you have been given at the entrance desk.

Two representatives from the Dominion- Mr. Charles Green from the Department of Foreign Affairs, and Lady Samantha Ausbin from the Department of Economic Penetration- will arrive by commercial air tomorrow morning.

These representatives of the Ministry will examine the prospects for diplomatic and commercial ties between the Dominion and Xiaguo. The Dominion trades extensively around the Pacific Rim and elsewhere around the world, and His Omniferocity welcomes peaceful and profitable trade with friendly neighbors.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs

Everybody welcomed.

Irondin will send a delagit to discuss trade matters and other international matters.

[Just a tag out of interest, although I currently recognise a NPC version of the PR China as my neighbour most of the time]

Really? Well, Xiaguo and Sino represents CHina in most RP's as possible. Xiaguo is the North, and Sino is the Souht, I made a map and have posted that in other threads, if you need a map here, I will post it. I find PR China to be inactive..but I guess its just anyone's choice.

(Yeah, I mean a None Player Controlled real-life-alike China. It's just that too much of what Dra-pol's done in the past has involved a moderately friendly socialist-ish China, and changing to a potentially hostile neighbour would require a re-writing of most of our history (not to mention the re-deployment of a few million troops!))

OOC: Maybe Xiaguo should start slowly changing policies going from friendly to not so friendly with Drapol.. kinda like modern China and North Korea... But the transition should be slow and predictable... like in RL... as China opens up more and more to Western countries its view of N. Korea changes respectively.

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OOC: As we are presently involved in a war in Korea (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350165), and our based off Japan, we will take part in this.

Xiaguo is already not friendly with Dra-Pol, we were enemies in the last war..

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The Emperor has invited national leaders to Beijing for a Foreign Diplomatic Conference centered at the new policies Beijing will lay forth toward foreign nations. Such policies include the banning of foreign ships within Bohai except for Sino. The banning of foreign troops in China, the relocation of embassies, and a probability of having the Hudecians relocate in Tianjin, away from Xiaguo proper which includes, Heilongjiang, Jilin, and Liaoning. Donguk Special Administrative Region will also be opened up to foreign trade and investment.

The Conference will be held outside the palace at the People's National Congress on the other side of Tiananmen Square.

This conference is important to the future diplomatic relations of China and foreign allies and nations. The conference welcomes anyone representing officially of each country respectively.

Whittier would like to exchange embassies with your nation.

OOC:Whittier, do you have a RL nation,region, and such you represent?

We would be happy to exchange embassies with your nation. The embassy will be located on Embassy Street in Tianjin.


We ask that all nations make out any points and issues you wish to have us all discuss.

OOC:Whittier, do you have a RL nation,region, and such you represent?

We would be happy to exchange embassies with your nation. The embassy will be located on Embassy Street in Tianjin.
Whittier is located is composed of the RL region that is California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorada, Utah, and Wyoming.

IC: You can place your embassy in the diplomatic district of our capital.

Official Communiqué, Granzi

The Commonwealth is most interested in participating in conference, having been in action during the Daylami Campaigns and subsequent peacekeeping. Our delegation will be composed of Junior Foreign Minister Foret Green and accompanied by Ambassador Keith West, diplomat to Xiaguo. Issues we would like to discuss include bounderies and borders concerning China and its neighbors. Thank you in advance.

Nathanial Sun,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC: I guess that might make me your northern neighbour Whittier... usually I RP from the position of Canada...

MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY Z!
From The Supreme Commander of Red Tide
To Xiaguo
"We would actually like too participate in one of these meetings for once... Although we dont attend most of them because... well... reasons that we will not discuss here... we request that our bodygaurds for our diplomats will go in armed... as we are still untrusting of the Asian Alliance and Bonstock for the events in the Japann War. (OOC:The message rambles on about the untrust worthiness of the Asians for awhile before finally getting too the point) We hope that you will let us attend this meeting, and no, we are NOT up too something."
END MESSAGE!

OOC:The final statement is true... the reason for it is that Red Tide ussually attempts too bomb/gas/infect/nuke (the last one having never suceeded) these type of meetings.

You will be permitted 2 armed guards, but cannot enter any further beyond the front entrance of the People's National Congress.

The Armed Republic of Sino Military Junta suggests that Xiaguo avoid diplomacy with the perpetual evils of Bonstock and Red Tide.

Nobody has any suggestions or issues of any sort?

Issues we would like to discuss include boundries and borders concerning China and its neighbors. Thank you in advance.

Nathanial Sun,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

*clears throat*

Of particular interest to us is the boundary dispute, especially concerning the Bohai and Yellow Seas. While we have no vested interests in the Bohai Sea, we desire free access to the Yellow Sea and the Korean Bay, as far as Dairen.

http://tmrt-id.hp.infoseek.co.jp/tabi/dailen/dairen.JPG

Lieutenant-General Kiyotake Kawaguchi
On Behalf of Prime Marshallisimo Prince Naruhiko Higashikuni
On Behalf of Emperor Shokahito
Grand Cordon of the Supreme Order of the Chrysanthemum
Order of the Rising Sun
Order of the Sacred Treasure

"Ladies and gentlemen, His Omniferocity's government is primarily interested in maintaining peaceful trade through the region. Since the Dominion is not directly involved, our presence here serves mainly to show His Omniferocity's support for any attempt to resolve the border issues peacefully. So long as a mutually-agreeable compromise is reached, Evil Overlord Enterprises will provide any reasonable assistance needed."

Wow.. this is confusing for me cuz as far as I am concerned my troops still occupy the Pusan perimeter holding off the Drapol forces..

I guess I am going to have to ignore Tukmeny for the time being and just say that he is in a different reality or something.....

OOC:Yes, the current rp involving him and Korea does not mix with our Dra-Pol, S. Hanguk Rp's, so I guess the RP I am in with him will not do much toi our current recognised borders and nations.


All nations are allowed free passage through the Yellow Seas and all seas except for Bohai, since that Sea is relatively close to Most of the Xiannese cities. Dairen is the border point, that is where you will not enter, Dairen port however is available for free trade. Any ships seen on Bohai and not registered will be searched and crew arrested. Any Naval warship not registered will be sunk upon entry.

China has always opened up to all nations concerning trade. We have already opened several large ports to foireign trade this year.

Official Communique

To make the issue more clear, we would like to bring forth the naval base at Qingdao. As the other remnents of our forces in China throughout the various campaigns have been dismantled or ceded to the Chinese governments (in this case, Xiaguo) we would like to maintain the Qingdao base in it's present state. To ease the flow of traffic once on the coastal road now inside the base, we have constructed a new throughfare around the perimeter:

OOC: Brown area is base perimeters. Light blue line just outside base is the new road.

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The New Government Proposed, Granzian Base.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v25/Littleredboi/?action=view&current=qingdao.jpg

China will take all concessions back. Xinjiang International troops will have more restrictions concerning numbers.

NOTE:All N. Chinese laws do not affect S. China, Sino.

Granzian revised plan:

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The Xiannese government wll accept Granzian's revised offer. However, we do recomend we set a date for the return of this base.

We ask, that is exchange for a permanent base at Qingdao, Xiaguo can construct a base at any of our overseas territories. We currently hold the Canary Islands, Gibraltar, Yemen, Maldives, Reunion, Guam, and New Caledonia.

We do not wish a permanent stationing of troops in China.

The Federal Republic of Bonstock would also like a military base, but only for purposes of refeuling and replenishment. We will only base air refeuling aircraft and replenishment ships in such a base. If this is agreed to, Bonstock will allow Azn Resistance refeuling planes and replenishment ships into our ports, and will allow Azn Resistance ships to conduct port calls in Bonstocknian ports, with the exception of Sinoese ships as Bonstock has no diplomatic relations with (and no trust for) Sino.

In addition, Bonstock asks that Sino recognize Bonstocknian holdings in East Asia. If that happens, Bonstock will reopen diplomatic relations with Sino, and recognize Sino's possessions in China.

The Federal Republic of Bonstock would also like a military base, but only for purposes of refeuling and replenishment. We will only base air refeuling aircraft and replenishment ships in such a base. If this is agreed to, Bonstock will allow Azn Resistance refeuling planes and replenishment ships into our ports, and will allow Azn Resistance ships to conduct port calls in Bonstocknian ports, with the exception of Sinoese ships as Bonstock has no diplomatic relations with (and no trust for) Sino.

In addition, Bonstock asks that Sino recognize Bonstocknian holdings in East Asia. If that happens, Bonstock will reopen diplomatic relations with Sino, and recognize Sino's possessions in China.

To give a good first move:

To General Lui:

The Federal Republic of Bonstock hereby recognizes all Sinoese possessions and claims in China and around the world. We ask politely that Sino recognize our possessions and claims. If this happens, Bonstock will establish diplomatic relations with Sino. We hope that this will lead to a brighter future of peace with Sino.

With all due respect,

Harald, son of Gustav, lord of all Bonstocknians

The Hudecian government wishes to withdraw all its troops that were stationed in Xiaguo for the time being. We urge our Granzi allies to respect the Chinese desire for a united and unoccupied homeland by setting a date for the return of the base.

Preferably this evacuation would occur sooner rather than later to avoid a confrontation.

OOC: really, you shouldn't have been able to set up base there because Xiaguo was there, but since you are there.... I would strongly urge you to make your stay temporary...

Open statement to all nations:

Barring a miracle, the next Hudecian government will be majority LDP under the leadership of Mr. Fieldings, who will occupy the roles of House Leader, Prime Minister and President. In Hudecian politics this is considered a majority as the LDP won 70% of the popular vote.

Conservative elements, which once ruled the country have been handed their worst electoral showing in over 100 years barely scrapping together a mere 10% of the vote.

As such, the policies enacted by the former Hudecian government are now rescinded.

1) Hudecia withdraws itself formally from the Asian Alliance.
2) Hudecian troops stationed in Xiaguo are hereby recalled.
3) Hudecia hereby recognizes Bonstockian territory to be all the land the presently occupy.
4) Hudecia formally acknowledges that _Taiwan is part of China and hereby cuts any and all diplomatic ties with the island.

OOC: sorry for the somewhat quick change in direction but I figure now that the LDP has 70% of the popular vote there's no chance they will lose.

The Federal Republic of Bonstock would also like a military base, but only for purposes of refeuling and replenishment. We will only base air refeuling aircraft and replenishment ships in such a base. If this is agreed to, Bonstock will allow Azn Resistance refeuling planes and replenishment ships into our ports, and will allow Azn Resistance ships to conduct port calls in Bonstocknian ports, with the exception of Sinoese ships as Bonstock has no diplomatic relations with (and no trust for) Sino.

In addition, Bonstock asks that Sino recognize Bonstocknian holdings in East Asia. If that happens, Bonstock will reopen diplomatic relations with Sino, and recognize Sino's possessions in China.

The Taiwanese Government asks Xiaguo to decline this request for obvious reasons.

Official Communiqué

On second thought, all Granzian forces will be withdrawing from China in hope of promoting better relations between China and the Commonwealth. The Qingdao naval base will be turned over to Xiaguo authorities once the Korean conflict ends. Granzian controlled Xinjiang will also be transfered to Xiaguo control.

Nathanial Sun,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

If Bonstock would set a date for the return of the Maropian Coasts to the Taiwanese, we will allow Bonstockian ships to refuel and station ships withing Qingdao, and Dairen, withing a certain number. If not, we will have to drop your offer.

Note:Xiaguo allowed Granzian forces to station there during war, and never really go to the point on booting them out. Hudecian forces may still be station in Xinjiang, but with number restrictions, same goes for the Sinoese in Xinjiang.

OOC: So will my troops still be stationed in NW Xinjiang? *Is confused*

(See earlier post for map.)

The SFD congratulates the North and South Chinese on their recent nationalist movements to consolidate their hereditary holdings. Though we are no longer a member of the Asian Alliance, we hope that peaceful politics will continue between China and the Lyong Peninsula as a whole.

Respectfully,
The High council of North Yaman

Open statement to all nations:

Barring a miracle, the next Hudecian government will be majority LDP under the leadership of Mr. Fieldings, who will occupy the roles of House Leader, Prime Minister and President. In Hudecian politics this is considered a majority as the LDP won 70% of the popular vote.

Conservative elements, which once ruled the country have been handed their worst electoral showing in over 100 years barely scrapping together a mere 10% of the vote.

As such, the policies enacted by the former Hudecian government are now rescinded.

1) Hudecia withdraws itself formally from the Asian Alliance.
2) Hudecian troops stationed in Xiaguo are hereby recalled.
3) Hudecia hereby recognizes Bonstockian territory to be all the land the presently occupy.
4) Hudecia formally acknowledges that _Taiwan is part of China and hereby cuts any and all diplomatic ties with the island.

OOC: sorry for the somewhat quick change in direction but I figure now that the LDP has 70% of the popular vote there's no chance they will lose.

We are quite pleased that the Hudecians have made this important step towards peace. We hope that Sino and other Azn Resistance members will take note and follow suit.

If Bonstock would set a date for the return of the Maropian Coasts to the Taiwanese, we will allow Bonstockian ships to refuel and station ships withing Qingdao, and Dairen, withing a certain number. If not, we will have to drop your offer.

Note:Xiaguo allowed Granzian forces to station there during war, and never really go to the point on booting them out. Hudecian forces may still be station in Xinjiang, but with number restrictions, same goes for the Sinoese in Xinjiang.

Bonstock will never allow the transfer of Maropian Coast to any authority but our own.

However, we would leave, if promises are made that Maropian Coast shall be independent.

How about Auto. for the Maropian Coast? Under Taiwan of course.

Any and all decisions regarding the Maropian Coast should be done with the consent of the people who live there. Hudecia proposes a simple referendum to decide the fate of the Maropian Coast; should the people decide to remain part of Bonstock then that will be the result, if they choose to separate then they have the option to either join Taiwan or remain independent.

We don't give a rat's ass whether Bonstock recognizes Taiwan, the fact is the 'Maropian Coast' is a child stolen by the bandits of Bonstock.

Any and all decisions regarding the Maropian Coast should be done with the consent of the people who live there. Hudecia proposes a simple referendum to decide the fate of the Maropian Coast; should the people decide to remain part of Bonstock then that will be the result, if they choose to separate then they have the option to either join Taiwan or remain independent.

Such a referandum must include the people of China, just as a referandum for the independence of Quabec must got before all people of Canada.

OOC: So will my troops still be stationed in NW Xinjiang? *Is confused*

(See earlier post for map.)

Did you miss this, Xiaguo? :)

We don't give a rat's ass whether Bonstock recognizes Taiwan, the fact is the 'Maropian Coast' is a child stolen by the bandits of Bonstock.

With this, Sino only shows its true colors as a rogue nation bent on making war to the Federal Republic. We have given them the option of peace with Bonstock, and yet they refuse. Bonstock no longer recognizes the Sinoese government as legitimate, and will preserve its territory at any and all cost. Any Sinoese boot that wanders on to Bonstocknian soil will create a state of war between us.

Latest polls in MC:

48% Would rather remain part of Bonstock
51% would rather be independent, but with close ties to Bonstock
1% would rather be part of Taiwan or Sino.

Quebec is a different matter entirely. But since the Sinoese decided to bring it up Hudecia will discuss it (I am RPing from the position of Canada so...). The people of Quebec have always been given the right to decide their own fate in Confederation.

The idea that people outside a particular province should decide the fate of those living inside it is fundamentally wrong. You would not ask the people of Heiliongji to decide matters for Hong Kong.. neither should the people of China decide matters for the Maropian Coast.

New Bonstocknian constitution; Bonstock, MC, and the Sakishima Islands will become states submiting to a Federal government.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6885034#post6885034

latest polls:

90% would remain part of the new Federal Union created by the Constitution.
9% want to be more independent, or at least autonamous
1% would want to be part of Sino or _Taiwan

The Socialist Federal Dominion would like to support the full unification of Maropian Coast with _Taiwan, just as we still support the Korean unification effort. As a sign of goodwill to our neighbours, any aid, military or otherwise, we can offer Sino and _Taiwan will readied.

Bonstock must be brought to understand that it has little control against a united Asia, and that no nation will stand its Imperialism.

OOC:Bonstock, LOL, your polls might be distrubing to SIno, if he ever attacked it, he's going to send em all in concentration camps and revisionists schools.

Have there 0% of the Sakashima residents voted for Xiaguo? Granzian troops are still allowed to be stationed in Xinjiang. However, less than 10,000. Excluding families and such. May I suggest the Maropian coast remain independent from Bonstock and Taiwan. Xiaguo has recognise Bonstock and the Maropian Coast as an independent nation. However, when incorporating the Sakashimas, we have another angle.

Xiaguo has put much work in De-Colonization, and Imperialism, I don't see why Bonstock can hold better lifestyles then of Tokarev, Taiwan, Sino, South Hanguk, Dra-Pol, Xiaguo, Granzia, and many nations with reasonings and knowledge much greater than of Bonstock.

Granzi thanks the nation of Xiaguo for being rational in dealing with the present situation. The Commonwealth has, at maximum, 4000 combat-ready troops in NW Xinjiang at the present time. This number is expected to decrease as the general infrastructure improves.

Statement from the State of Maropian Coast:

Maropian Coast shall never seceed from the Federal Republic. If other nations seek to force us to do so, then we are prepared to defend ourselves. We will stand firm against all threats and invasions. Maropian Coast will continue to be part of the Federal Republic.

ooc: I'm not leaving MC without a fight. If Sino wants to fight, then he may do so.

I seek no more land other then what I have already.

*The Emperor steps up to the podium and speaks with a rather stern voice*

Today, CHinese troops have finally arrived in our neighboring Korea to find it devastated under the current war with Japan(Tokarev, Turkmeny). A major naval offesive has not set forth in the Korean Bay, and the Hudecians nearing Hokkaido. Vladivostok has also been under siege by the Japanese under a bomb-and-destroy tactic. Xiannese fighters and bombers have been called in to the defense of Vladivostok. Thousands if not millions will arrive in Korea within weeks(probably speeded up for the rp, within 2-3 days)

We, the Socialists Constitutional Parliament of China asks that our allies and borthers provide us the necessary help in the defense of Korea, and the end of COlinization and the Imperialist Japanese.

China and Japan has agreed on paper that we pledge not to attack each other's mainland, 'China Proper', and the Japanese Arhipelego and original colonies.

We only ask of asistance, and support. Thank you in the name of glorius China.

ooc: I'm not leaving MC without a fight. If Sino wants to fight, then he may do so.

I seek no more land other then what I have already.

OOC (impersonating the Crocodile Hunter Stve Irwin): "Crikey! Look at this. That, is an adult member of the species bonstocknian haraldis, you can tell that he's very angry from the threats given by his flicking of a forked tongue, he warning me, to stay away. But I'm not gonna be scared by that beeg pussy, just because I threatened to take away his 'mate'."

*The Emperor steps up to the podium and speaks with a rather stern voice*

Today, CHinese troops have finally arrived in our neighboring Korea to find it devastated under the current war with Japan(Tokarev, Turkmeny). A major naval offesive has not set forth in the Korean Bay, and the Hudecians nearing Hokkaido. Vladivostok has also been under siege by the Japanese under a bomb-and-destroy tactic. Xiannese fighters and bombers have been called in to the defense of Vladivostok. Thousands if not millions will arrive in Korea within weeks(probably speeded up for the rp, within 2-3 days)

We, the Socialists Constitutional Parliament of China asks that our allies and borthers provide us the necessary help in the defense of Korea, and the end of COlinization and the Imperialist Japanese.

China and Japan has agreed on paper that we pledge not to attack each other's mainland, 'China Proper', and the Japanese Arhipelego and original colonies.

We only ask of asistance, and support. Thank you in the name of glorius China.

The Armed Republic of Sino sees the commitment of more arms necessary for its Xiannese ally.

OOC: General Liu sure is generous.

The Government of Sino and its people are too generous. The Chinese populous has asked a well known painter to paint general Liu's portrait, taking a photograph and some well mixed paint, the portrait has been finished. it now hangs in replacement of the Mao potrait at Tiananmen.

Tiananmen square with Liu's potrait.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v25/Littleredboi/?action=view&current=liuinbeijing.jpg

With this, Sino only shows its true colors as a rogue nation bent on making war to the Federal Republic. We have given them the option of peace with Bonstock, and yet they refuse. Bonstock no longer recognizes the Sinoese government as legitimate, and will preserve its territory at any and all cost. Any Sinoese boot that wanders on to Bonstocknian soil will create a state of war between us.

Latest polls in MC:

48% Would rather remain part of Bonstock
51% would rather be independent, but with close ties to Bonstock
1% would rather be part of Taiwan or Sino.

Bonstock is the rogue state that milk colonies dry and proliferate countless WMD to terrorists.

The Sinoese State and the Chinese people must preserve its territories and Bonstock has clearly violated the supreme will of the Chinese race!

Anyway, those results are rigged.

Tiananmen square with Liu's potrait.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v25/Littleredboi/?action=view&current=liuinbeijing.jpg

General Liu, although congratulates the artist's talent, has asked the Xiannese government to have that painting removed from public display as it is contrary to Liu's nature of not preferring personal worship. He is like any other Chinese citizen, just doing his job.

After much pressure the citizens of Xiaguo, the potrait will be kept on the building. Howeverm, this is just a sign of respect and our token of appreciation.

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