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BA-5 Main Battle Tank

I designed it so that it would be long and low to the ground, to get over ditches, etc. and to be stable for a large mm gun.

I'm not sure what to include in the stats, so if anyone can help me, that would be great :).

I'm not sure if it is as big as it looks, but here goes.

STATS

Weight: 72 Standard Tons

Length: 34'

Width: 10' 6''

Height: 9'

Armnaments: (1) 145mm Main Gun (SABO, FLAIR (Illumination Round), Kinetic Energy Round, HEAT, chemSHELL round compatible), (1) .50 caliber coaxial (coax) machine gun, (1) MP72 Semiautomait, (4) MK-82 Smoke Grenade Launchers

Electronics: (1) TBDAC: Electronics FLIR (Forward-Looking Infrared) Scanner, (2) Grand Blanke Electronics Night Vision Scopes, (1) TBDAC: Electronics Multitarget Engagement Management Computer, (1) TBDAC: Electronics Ballistic Management Computer, various other engine and systems computers

Propulsion: (2) CM Tank Engines, (1) Burnsian General Transportation Diesel Engine, (1) Burnsian General Transportation Turbine Engine (Note: All engines interchangable depending on needs of tank)

Navigation: (1) GPS Sattelite Uplink Reciever, (1) OnStar Navigation Communicator

Cost: To Be Determined

nice tank. looks cool cant wait to read the specs.

Your Majesty,

The design looks great, but I wonder at the weight. This thing is huge. It would have to have fuel tanks the size of hippos to hold the fuel necessary to move it. And that would make it extremely vulnerable, unless you can come up with a nuclear-powered tank. Which in turn would make it cost-prohibitive.

Anyway, you need to describe the armament it has: size of the shell, what, if any, machine guns, STA missiles, etc...

How many men does it take to run this tank? Again, from the size of it, it looks like it would hold 8-10 people.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

If you're modern tech, consider some real world systems:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/index.html

To: Her Majesty of The Burnsian Desert
From: Fuhrer Reinhard Heydrich

The Fascist Confederacy (Formerly known as Der Auftrag) is one of your many allies. And would dearly like to help her highness in producing these tanks.

To: Her Majesty of The Burnsian Desert
From: Fuhrer Reinhard Heydrich

The Fascist Confederacy (Formerly known as Der Auftrag) is one of your many allies. And would dearly like to help her highness in producing these tanks.

OOC: As soon as I get the production specs nailed down, you can be a production partner. :)

Thank you for all who replied, esp. Xeraph, BTW, how was the Arizona/California trip?

The only thing I see wrong with the pic is that the length of it would mean you would lose some power from the pto shaft which makes the drive shaft turn, which in turn, turn the wheels. (I dont know a whole lot about military equip so if tanks dont use a PTO to drive the drive shaft please forgive me)

The only thing I see wrong with the pic is that the length of it would mean you would lose some power from the pto shaft which makes the drive shaft turn, which in turn, turn the wheels. (I dont know a whole lot about military equip so if tanks dont use a PTO to drive the drive shaft please forgive me)

I wouldn't know either. :)

BTW, stats are up!!

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It's sort of small. The T-80 is 23' long, the Challenger 2 is 27' long, and the Leclerc is 22'7". Your tank is only 14' long. That means that it will have a lot of trouble crossing trenches, as well as making it harder to fit enough equipment in. The length to width ratio (1.9:1) is about right though.

The gun is also a little small for a main battle tank. Most RL main battle tanks are using 120mm guns today, and on NS you can find 130 or 140mm easily.

Depending on how much armor it has, the weight may also be off. Your tank is almost 30 tons heavier than the Leclerc, but only 42% of the size (roughly).

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BA-5 Main Battle Tank

I designed it so that it would be long and low to the ground, to get over ditches, etc. and to be stable for a large mm gun.

I'm not sure what to include in the stats, so if anyone can help me, that would be great :).

I'm not sure if it is as big as it looks, but here goes.

STATS

Weight: 89 Standard Tons

Length: 14'

Width: 7' 6''

Height: 9'

Armnaments: (1) 110mm Main Gun (SABO, FLAIR, Kinetic Energy Round compatible), (1) .30 caliber coaxial (coax) machine gun, (1) Browning Antipersonnel .50 caliber machine gun, (4) MK-82 Smoke Grenade Launchers

Electronics: (1) TBDAC: Electronics FLIR (Forward-Looking Infrared) Scanner, (2) Grand Blanke Electronics Night Vision Scopes, (1) TBDAC: Electronics Multitarget Engagement Management Computer, (1) TBDAC: Electronics Ballistic Management Computer, various other engine and systems computers

Propulsion: 3 Burnsian Transportation Jet Turbine Engines, Turbocharged

Navigation: (1) GPS Sattelite Uplink Reciever, (1) OnStar Navigation Communicator

Cost: To Be Determined


Advice:
1) Is the 14 meters or 14 feet? 14 meters is okay, 14 feet is not. But it must be feet because if it was 9 meters tall, that'd be almost a boat.
2) Don't put jet engines in a tank, they're not made for that sort of thing.
3) Onstar is civilian tech, I'd suggest avoiding anyting not on a secured military satellite.

IC: I'm willing to sell you the designs for the engine we use in our T-98 MBTs

Salazar TA-04 gasoline turbine engine. 2,400 Hp at 30,000 Rpm.

Or perhaps the engine from the massive T-98W
Thaller TA-03 diesel super charged turbine engine. 4,000 Hp at 40,000 Rpm.

T-98 and T-98W

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1) Fixed the length

2) Doesn't the M1 series of tanks have jet engines?

3) That was a joke ;)

1) Fixed the length

2) Doesn't the M1 series of tanks have jet engines?

3) That was a joke ;)


AGT-1500 turbine engine is what abrams used.

I suspected it might be a joke, the on star. :D

The team is running out of budget, can you give us the designs?

Weight: 89 Standard TonsSomething that heavy isn't practical. Even 60-70 tons severely limits where your tank can go.
Armnaments: (1) 145mm Main Gun (SABO, FLAIR, Kinetic Energy Round compatible)What I think you mean by SABO (dense metal penetrator encased in a sabot) should be APFSDS, which would be a kinetic energy round. I'm not sure what you mean by FLAIR, but other possible rounds are HEAT (high-explosive anti-tank), MPAT (multi-purpose anti-tank, can be used against helicopters), STAFF (attacks the top of the tank), APERS (anti-personnel), and HEP (used against buildings).
(1) .30 caliber coaxial (coax) machine gun, (1) Browning Antipersonnel .50 caliber machine gun, (4) MK-82 Smoke Grenade LaunchersI'd suggest a coaxial 0.50cal and an automatic grenade launcher for the commander. You might want more smoke grenade launchers, too.
Propulsion: 3 Burnsian Transportation Jet Turbine Engines, TurbochargedYou should use either a diesel or a turbine. A diesel will be more fuel efficient, have a smaller IR signature, cooler (a turbine can be too hot for infantry to follow it), and cheaper, while a turbine is smokeless, significantly quieter, and can use more kinds of fuel(?).

The team is running out of budget, can you give us the designs?

Done, designs sent as a gift from our nation to your nation to celebrate the upcoming royal marriage.

updated, thanks all

Thank you for all who replied, esp. Xeraph, BTW, how was the Arizona/California trip?


Your Majesty,

The Cal/Az trip went well.....not much bad weather, and the mountains of NoCal were very nice. Didn't think much of LA as I passed thru on way to Az, but Flagstaff remains one of my favorite places.

Hope you get your tank squared away for production. I may buy a few.....

Alaric

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Very nice.

You don't need both Sabot (APFSDS) and a Kinetic Energy round, since Sabot itself penetrates using kinetic energy only.

You also still might consider adding passive or active defenses to stop anti-tank missiles.
You could license mine off this tank (http://tncforums.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=DCA&action=display&num=1090452065) or design your own using the information in this PDF (http://www.knox.army.mil/center/ocoa/ArmorMag/mj98/3aps98.pdf)