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T-94B, T-95M MBTs revealed to world

DontPissUsOff
23-08-2004, 15:12
T-94B, T-95M Main Battle Tanks

Overview

The T-94 and T-95 battle tanks were for many years thought to be mere fiction, the product of overactive imagination and rumour concerning Russian tank design. When the T-94 was revealed as being real and indeed approaching production, the ridicule surrounding these powerful machines quickly disappeared. The T-95 likewise disappeared from sight.

However, plans for he T-95 were not lost. T-95 hit production in several nations, including DPUO, albeit on a smaller scale than the production of the T-94. The T-94 was for many years the standard MBT of the DPUO army, replacing the previous T-90M.

However, the advent of the unprecedented Cold War with Communist Mississippi meant that a new tank, able to counter the T-98, was a matter of necessity. Though T-94 was a powerful weapon, and T-98 had numerous flaws, the fear among the General Staff was that morale would be lowered by the inability of the T-94 to kill T-98s in one hit.

At the same time, a similar programme was initiated, calling for a cheaper and lighter tank to complement the heavier T-94 and its' upgraded derivative. The T-95, it was decided, was the ideal system. But T-95 had the same flaws as the T-94 against this new enemy.
Therefore, comprehensive upgrading of both T-94 and T-95 was put in hand. These upgrades were to include new system of every type to better the Mississippians.


T-94B

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/7133/t94b1.jpg

Country of origin

Russian Federation/DPUO

Dimensions

Length 10.7m
Breadth 3.9m
Height to turret roof 2.3m

Combat weight

55.8 tonnes

Ground pressure

0.99Kg/cm

Engine 1 turbine-supercharged DSO-1400 multi-fuel diesel engine, developing 1,800hp at 20,000 rpm.

Fuel 645l internal, two 200l fuel drums on rear, with piping and pumps to allow fuel drum fuel use. Engine can be fuelled by petrol, diesel or paraffin.

Performance

Max. road speed 44mph, Max. cross-country speed 29mph, range 350 miles, gradient 30%, trench 2.9m, vertical obstacle 0.8m.

Armament

2A77 135mm smoothbore high velocity gun, length 61 calibres, firing APFSDS-T/DU (penetration 1,100mm RHA @ 2,000m, 1,300mm RHA @ 1,500m, 1,400mm RHA @ 1,000m, 1,600mm RHA @ 500m) HEAT, HE-FRAG, Smoke and chemical shells, and the AT-16 SAL-guided ATGM (range 8km). Standard ammunition load: 45 shells total, loaded by carousel automatic loader. 23 APFSDS, 12 HEAT, 6 HE-FRAG, 4 ATGM.

KORD 12.7mm co-axial MG, 11,800 rounds carried.

Protection

Dorchester-type composite armour turret and glacis plate, plus Kontakt-5 ERA on frontal arc.

Front armour equivalent 1,100mm RHA, with 300mm K-5 ERA, total 1,400mm
Side armour equivalent 960mm RHA
Rear armour equvalent 400mm RHA

Shtora-IM optronic countermeasures system.

Arena active defence system, radar housed in small armoured housing on turret roof to minimise risk of radar destruction, backed up by small LADAR which can also serve as laser rangefinder on roof. Ammunition boxes integral to turret design, and thus prodided with armour.

50mm steel track skirts.

Crew housed in armoured pod in front third of lower hull. Turret independently rotating, controlled by gunner using electronic controls and numerous cameras. Gunner has backup optical sights, gun controls and rangefinder. To access these the gunner must unlock the bulkhead hatch separating him from the gun box and climb up into his emergency position.

The hull is divided thusly:

Two bulkheads divide the hull into three sections. The engine occupies the rear 2/8 of the vehicle. The gun pod is housed in the next compartment, approximately another 3/8 of the vehicle's total hull volume. Then the crew are housed behind another bulkhead with an emergency door for the gunner, taking up thge remaining 3/8 of the vehicle.

Each bulkhead is of 30mm hardened steel. The turret roof incorporates blow-out panels, as does the upperpart of the engine compartment.

Electronics

TG-556 fire-control computer, measures gun angle, cant angle, wind speed and direction, temperature, humidity and muzzle droop, using an F-66 muzzle reference system.

GH-55 light intensification system for driver, A-44M "Navada" thermal gunsights for driver and commander.

16 cameras mounted to provide picture to gunner and commander for fire-control.

Backup manual sights provided.


T-95M

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3513/T-95.jpg

Country of origin

Russian Federation/DPUO

Dimensions

Length 9.12m
Breadth 3.5m
Height to turret roof 2.5m

Combat weight

50.9 tonnes

Ground pressure

0.97Kg/cm

Engine 1 turbine-supercharged DSO-1400 multi-fuel V8 diesel engine, developing 1,800hp at 20,000 rpm.

Fuel 645l internal, two 200l fuel drums on rear, with piping and pumps to allow fuel drum fuel use. Engine can be fuelled by petrol, diesel or paraffin.

Performance

Max. road speed 46mph, Max. cross-country speed 34mph, range 400 miles, gradient 30%, trench 2.45m, vertical obstacle 0.9m.

Armament

2A46M3 125mm smoothbore high velocity gun, length 58 calibres, firing APFSDS-T/DU (penetration 1,000mm RHA @ 2,000m, 1,200mm RHA @ 1,500m, 1,300mm RHA @ 1,000m, 1,500mm RHA @ 500m), HEAT, HE-FRAG, Smoke and chemical shells, and the AT-11 beam-riding ATGM (range 8km). Standard ammunition load: 45 shells total, loaded by carousel automatic loader. 23 APFSDS, 12 HEAT, 6 HE-FRAG, 4 ATGM.

PKT 7.62mm co-axial MG, 11,800 rounds carried.

Protection

Dorchester-type composite armour turret and glacis plate. The turret armour is extremely rounded to deflect incoming shot.

Front armour equivalent 1,000mm RHA
Side armour equivalent 800mm RHA
Rear armour equvalent 400mm RHA

Shtora-IM optronic countermeasures system - emitters mounted integral behind armoured housings next to gun.

30mm steel track skirts.

Crew housed in armoured pod in front third of lower hull. Turret independently rotating, controlled by gunner using electronic controls and numerous cameras. Gunner has backup optical sights, gun controls and rangefinder. To access these the gunner must unlock the bulkhead hatch separating him from the gun box and climb up into his emergency position.

The hull is divided thusly:

Two bulkheads divide the hull into three sections. The engine occupies the rear 2/8 of the vehicle. The gun pod is housed in the next compartment, approximately another 3/8 of the vehicle's total hull volume. Then the crew are housed behind another bulkhead with an emergency door for the gunner, taking up thge remaining 3/8 of the vehicle.

Each bulkhead is of 30mm hardened steel. The turret roof incorporates blow-out panels, as does the upperpart of the engine compartment.

Electronics

TG-101 fire-control computer, measures gun angle, cant angle, wind speed and direction, temperature, humidity and muzzle droop, using a T-76 muzzle reference system.

GH-55 light intensification system for driver, A-44M "Navada" thermal gunsights for driver and commander.

16 cameras mounted to provide picture to gunner and commander for fire-control.

Backup manual sights provided.
Nireva
23-08-2004, 15:17
Are those tanks for sale? Or production rights?
DontPissUsOff
23-08-2004, 15:24
They're for sale once I get feedback so as to get any design flaws ironed out :). I'd far rather delay sales but sell a tank that's pretty much problem-free then sell one beset with latent flaws that I don't know about.
Sarzonia
23-08-2004, 15:33
They're for sale once I get feedback so as to get any design flaws ironed out :). I'd far rather delay sales but sell a tank that's pretty much problem-free then sell one beset with latent flaws that I don't know about.

[OOC: I do that a lot with my ship designs. That's why I post a Secret IC development thread so I can 1) get OOC feedback and 2) have documentation in the event someone questions where I'm getting a class of ship I design.

I don't know very much about tanks or ground warfare, so I'll let any army experts handle this. I wouldn't know how long a tank is supposed to be so my observation that the 10 meters seems awfully long could be way off the mark.]
The Burnsian Desert
23-08-2004, 15:44
OOC: 135mm gun for the T-94B? That's a bit much... can the engine and frame handle the recoil, or is it a howitzer-style recoil system? (Retractable barrel)
DontPissUsOff
23-08-2004, 15:49
Bit of both. Limited recoil absorption on the mounting - part of the reason for the lengthening of the turret - but also the longer length of the hull (hence more area to spread the recoil force, I assume) should help too. And I don't think it's too unusual, from what I heard the T-95 was meant to carry a 135...then again, the T-95 apparently doesn't exist, so what do I know :)
Arenumberg
23-08-2004, 17:42
We are interested in these Tanks, we would be interested in approximately 2,134 of each Model, how much would this cost?
DontPissUsOff
23-08-2004, 17:46
Total cost: $42,680,000,000
Delivery time: 8-10 years.

Order accepted. production commencing.
Arenumberg
23-08-2004, 18:06
The Sum of $42,680,000,000, or 30 Billion Marks shall be payed in 2 Installments, one now, and one on completion
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 00:56
Major upgrades

*Armament:

- An improved thermal sleeve is now fitted to both guns, which reduces barrel damage due to heat to an extent that the barrel distorts by less than 1 degree every 500 shots.

- An improved ATGM, known as AT-21 "Diamond", is now mounted for the 135mm gun of the T-94B. AT-21 uses a triple-stage penetration system, comprising:

Stage 1: Initial shaped charge.
Stage 2: Secondary shaped charge
Stage 3: Tertiary charge, which fires a DU penetrator into the weakened armour.

AT-21 can also be used for top-attacks. It is guided by either inbuilt LADAR/IR guidance or by command guidance from the launching tank. AT-21's LADAR is both forward-looking and downward-looking, allowing a top-attack capability. When the missile passes over the roof of the target vehicle, the missile dives toward the roof at an angle of 85 degrees and detonates as normal.

*Armour:

- Both tanks now mount the third-generation "Cinder" armour scehem. Cinder comprsises an outer layer of titanium alloy over the Kontakt-5 ERA layer. Behind this, there comes composite, constructed of rods of tungsten carbide and titanium, encased in a thermosetting plastic. This is mouned on longitudinal rods that extend from the turret, and which are surrounded by a thermosetting gel.

*Fire-control:

- KOK-620 fire-control computers added. This latest version makes use of the newer CPUs and RAM chips becoming available to reduce the size of the FCC.

*Propulsion

- Engine uprated to the GS-200 2,000HP "Deltic"-pattern air-cooled diesel engine. The GS-150 has high power and relatively compact size due to its' Deltic construction.

- IR mixer boxes attached to exhaust vents.
Doomingsland
09-10-2004, 01:21
Might want to increase the weight a bit.
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 15:51
Oh yeah, thanks man. :)
Soviets Unions
09-10-2004, 17:50
The Soviet Army will like to buy up to 400 T-94Bs.
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 17:54
We're happy to confirm this order. Delivery will require two years. Production will commence upon receipt of payment.
Soviets Unions
09-10-2004, 18:11
We're happy to confirm this order. Delivery will require two years. Production will commence upon receipt of payment.
The Soviet goverment will like to know what the total cost will be at.
Axis Nova
09-10-2004, 18:13
External fuel tanks?

lol
Scandavian States
09-10-2004, 18:23
[You know, I've always been somewhat incredulous at the weight of the Soviet tanks. I mean, they have these huge ass guns but don't ever go over 55 tons.

Oh, and according to a Colonel in the Russian Army, the T-95 will have a 152mm gun.]
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 20:09
OOC: Blarg. I don't like the huge calibre guns, the velocity of the projectile is too low (unless you have a huge-ass barrel).

AN: No, those are the supplementary drum tanks, designed to extend range on approach march.
Sociale Italiana
09-10-2004, 20:15
The Italian Social Republic would like to purchase 100 of each type.
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 20:19
Nice try. A Rightist Utopia with the Fascist Italian flag ain't gonna get sales from me. By the way, you already tried it once with Italia Irridenta; do you really expect me to fall for it again?
Chellis
09-10-2004, 20:22
Chellian researchers, who were allowed limited access to the vehicle, have compiled a more likely view of what the T-95M looks like, although some liberties were taken, especially on the possibility of ERA in the front.

http://www.worstwinter.fpscentral.com/Images/T-95pic4.jpg

OOC: Yes, I did model that, and this is a shameless plug. Still, best representation if it I've ever seen.
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 20:23
Hey, thanks man! Don't suppose you could do T-94B for me could you? *Smiles sweetly* Oh BTW, it's missing the fume extractor on the gun.
Chellis
09-10-2004, 20:29
No can do. I modeled the T-95 for a game of mine, I have to give all my modeling time to it.
DontPissUsOff
09-10-2004, 20:37
Ah; well it's bloody good regardless. :)
Sociale Italiana
09-10-2004, 20:44
again, what are you talking about? I just started a country today. But, if you won't sell us anything, we will just copy the model.
Somalialand
09-10-2004, 20:55
HERE ARE THE NEXT TWO SIDES TO THE FORMER PICTURE:

http://www.worstwinter.fpscentral.com/Images/T-95pic5.jpg

ANOTHERT SIDE:

http://www.worstwinter.fpscentral.com/Images/T-95pic6.jpg

ITS A GOOD VEHICLE,

DONT LET THAT GUY LIE TO YOU, HE DID NOT MODEL THAT
Scandavian States
09-10-2004, 20:59
[Somalialand, just how the hell do you know that?]
Somalialand
09-10-2004, 21:00
i KNOW THE WEBSIDE,

I USED TO GET MILITARY PICS FROM IT,

IAM A MILITARY BUFF AND THAT KIND OF WEBSITE WOULD NVER HAD PASSED MY ATTENTION
Scandavian States
09-10-2004, 21:21
[First of all, stop typing in caps, it makes you look like you're yelling, which is completely unnecessary. Second, of what I can understand of your argument, it doesn't prove that Chellis did not model the T-95.]
Chellis
09-10-2004, 22:10
That website is first off my mod website, worst winter. FPScentral, I have been a long time member and a respected coder/modeler in the bf1942 section, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Just to prove you are an idiot, I will upload some progress shots of when I wasn't finished with it. My god, some people are dumb.

This is Pre-ERA. I save progress as I model. I have many older saves, but I don't really feel like loading up 3ds, nor proving myself to an idiot.
Axis Nova
09-10-2004, 22:16
OOC: Blarg. I don't like the huge calibre guns, the velocity of the projectile is too low (unless you have a huge-ass barrel).

AN: No, those are the supplementary drum tanks, designed to extend range on approach march.

Still, what if there's a sudden air attack or an ambush? One burst of machinegun fire and the back deck is covered with flammable liquid.
Chellis
09-10-2004, 22:19
Still, what if there's a sudden air attack or an ambush? One burst of machinegun fire and the back deck is covered with flammable liquid.

Untrue. A tank of gas that is shot and penetrated will most of the time not explode. It will start leaking, but those tanks are meant to be ejected anyways.
Axis Nova
09-10-2004, 22:24
I know it just wouldn't explode, which is why I didn't SAY explode. Still, having tanks of flammable liquid like that seems a bad idea to me.

At least they can be dumped off at the first sign of trouble.
Chellis
09-10-2004, 22:28
I know it just wouldn't explode, which is why I didn't SAY explode. Still, having tanks of flammable liquid like that seems a bad idea to me.

At least they can be dumped off at the first sign of trouble.

Thats like saying having water in a shower is a bad idea because you can slip on it.

The external tanks are meant to be used first, anyways, and mostly for moving around, not attacking. The LeClerc external tanks account for 200km of travel, while internal accounts for 500km, to give an idea.
DontPissUsOff
18-12-2004, 17:22
*Update*

TO-94 and -95 flamethrower tanks added - replaces co-axial MG with one ATO-94 flamethrower, with sufficient fuel, carried in double-walled, rubber-lined tanks, for approximately 30 bursts of 2-3 second duration. Weights and other attibutes remain unchanged.
Footpads
17-01-2005, 20:38
T-94B, T-95M Main Battle Tanks

The turret armour is extremely rounded to deflect incoming shot.


Trying to be constructive, not a whining arse, sorry. ;)

Armour slope deflection don't work against modern SABOT (they have a blunt nose, and "steer" into the slope. Sometimes it will "bust" the fuze on HEAT rounds however (the charge hitting the armour and deforming before the fuze makes contact).

How strong are the crew compartement bulkheads? Enough to withstand the pressurewave of the carried propellant going off?

Unusually restrained and realistic design otherwise (for being NS). Bravo! :)
Ratheia
17-01-2005, 21:00
An impressive design.

Thoguh our Black Eagles have a 152mm Cannon.
Neuvo Rica
17-01-2005, 21:31
The peoples republic of Neuvo Rica wishes to purchase 30 of each model for testing. If all goes well then further (much larger) orders will follow.
DontPissUsOff
17-01-2005, 23:19
Really? If sloping the armour has minimal effect against AP shot, the tank's principal foe, why's it used?

Ratheia: Yeah, but what's the MV of it? :P

NR: Order confirmed.
Roach-Busters
17-01-2005, 23:23
I wish to purchase 1,500 T-94B Main Battle Tanks, and 1,500 T-95M Main Battle Tanks. Please name your price. Money will be wired immediately upon confirmation. Thanks!
Footpads
17-01-2005, 23:42
An impressive design.

Thoguh our Black Eagles have a 152mm Cannon.

Don't stare yourself blind at the calibre of the gun. I just noticed the tube length being 61 calibres, makes this huge weapon...

...perhaps a wee bit too huge for a 55 ton vehicle...

The guntube alone would be ~8.24 meters long... as compared to

6.6m for Rheinmetal's 120mmL55
6.24m for GIAT's 120mmL52

Those are the longest tank guns in service today. The "standard" guns today being:

Rheinmetal 120mmL44 at 5.28m
125mmL48 2A46M at 6m.


With contemporary technology that thing will warp like hell by gravity alone...
DontPissUsOff
17-01-2005, 23:44
Forget warping, odds are it'll just fall over ;)

Anyway, yeah. Armouring and why sloping = pointless? Got any links that explain it in a non-physics-intensive way?
Roach-Busters
17-01-2005, 23:53
I wish to purchase 1,500 T-94B Main Battle Tanks, and 1,500 T-95M Main Battle Tanks. Please name your price. Money will be wired immediately upon confirmation. Thanks!

*Cough*
Footpads
17-01-2005, 23:55
Really? If sloping the armour has minimal effect against AP shot, the tank's principal foe, why's it used?

Ratheia: Yeah, but what's the MV of it? :P

NR: Order confirmed.

I didn't mean to say sloping an armourplate was useless, just that the modern SABOT penetrators don't richochet.

However, I could have explained myself more clearly. ;)


Effective thickness is affected by sloping plates, but SABOT richochet very rarely.

Armour design (ie how the armour interacts with the penetrator) sometimes takes the "digging" in consideration, forcing the penetrator to tumble into the armour and thereby induce such stresses on it to shatter and fail.

The exact workings and designs behind this are all hush-hush and not available to such as me beyond the most basic (those that know don't talk, those who talk don't know, and so on).
DontPissUsOff
17-01-2005, 23:58
Yeah, I can see your meaning with that. Just kinda took me by surprise...oh well, it's pretty thick anyway. :D

RB: Roach-Busters is a nation which we have an odd relationship. RB's policies of political discrimination against liberals and the Left are something that we do not agree with, and our people would never countenance any arms sale to your nation.
Roach-Busters
18-01-2005, 00:00
Yeah, I can see your meaning with that. Just kinda took me by surprise...oh well, it's pretty thick anyway. :D

RB: Roach-Busters is a nation which we have an odd relationship. RB's policies of political discrimination against liberals and the Left are something that we do not agree with, and our people would never countenance any arms sale to your nation.

(OOC: The discrimination is all IC, just so you know. Ah well. :D)
DontPissUsOff
18-01-2005, 00:07
(OOC: The discrimination is all IC, just so you know. Ah well. :D)

Yeah, it's all love really :P
Ratheia
18-01-2005, 04:08
The Black Eagle tank does exist.

Original version was given a 120mm cannon, but was swapped in favor of Howitzer Calibre 152mm.

As for T-95. The original T-95 is still top-secret and is being developed by the Uralvagonzavod Company of Russia, that specializes in making railroad tracks.
DontPissUsOff
18-01-2005, 04:08
WHich makes you wonder what the T-94 is... :eek:
Ratheia
18-01-2005, 04:10
T-94 and T-95 are used interchangeably as the new tank devloped at Ural Industries.

As for your tank...

We may seek to buy several thousand.
Neuvo Rica
18-01-2005, 21:01
The people's republic of Neuvo Rica wishes to make a second order:

2000 T -94
2500 T - 95
DontPissUsOff
18-01-2005, 21:45
Nuevo Rica's order has been confirmed, and production will begin immediately. Any difficulties you encounter may be forwarded to RSI, and we shall do our best to deal with them.