NationStates Jolt Archive


Automagfreek holds to much power

The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 07:50
upon doing some research i have discovered these disturbing facts. automagfreak has comited genocide numerous times on innocent civilians and tortures them too. he is the head of NATO (the alliance that wouldnt let me in :mad: :mp5: :sniper: ) and uses that alliance to push around other nations like Comunist Missisippi. he is also the Delegate of his region The Allied Powers which is full of large and powerful nations. ontop of the fact that i've heard he does whatever he wants because of his many allies. this is disturbing and the rest of the world shold be worried. how safe do you feel knowing a madman is running around?

but please note i do not want war with Automagfreak i am simply speaking out peacefuly about his brutal actions. i think he holds to much power and the world needs to recognize this threat.

again war is not what i want.
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 07:52
i was the delegate to my region as well , until the mods screwed up and took it away( trying to get it back). listen new dude , watch your step. this is a big world you are walking into.
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 07:53
i was the delegate to my region as well , until the mods screwed up and took it away( trying to get it back). listen new dude , watch your step. this is a big world you are walking into.

im not trying to start a war im just trying to let people know wut kind of person theyre dealing with.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 07:53
Ok first of all, read about what CM has done. his atrocities are almost double of AMF's. Second of all, you are biting off way more than you can chew. Just forget about it.

While your "I can make a difference" attitude is admirable, it is also nieve. you should just concentrate on playing the game and making good rps. Also never ever use those smilies ever again. It is the first sign of a noob.
Underwater Asylum
23-08-2004, 07:54
Hostile, shut up. Compared to big space nations, he's nothing. We, which includes me because I'm in the ESUS and GDA along with the USF, can just glass him. And the rest of NATO. And you.
Axis Nova
23-08-2004, 07:56
AMF is fine in my book.

From what I know of him, he generally won't mess with you unless you either mess with him or like to mess with other people (ie, like CM).

Axis Nova
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 07:59
i have no prob with AMF, he's cool
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 07:59
Ok I dont think that was needed. All he was doing was stating his beleifs, yet you come in and just yell at him saying that you could glass anyone. And why? becasue you are such a hard ass. I bet you grew up on the streets of Compton or Harlem, maybe the ATL? Right.

Isnt there some star trek convention you have to get to?
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:01
Ok I dont think that was needed. All he was doing was stating his beleifs, yet you come in and just yell at him saying that you could glass anyone. And why? becasue you are such a hard ass. I bet you grew up on the streets of Compton or Harlem, maybe the ATL? Right.

Isnt there some star trek convention you have to get to?

you need to know who you pick fights with.
Whittier-
23-08-2004, 08:02
Hostile, shut up. Compared to big space nations, he's nothing. We, which includes me because I'm in the ESUS and GDA along with the USF, can just glass him. And the rest of NATO. And you.
I think there's a star trek convention just around the corner that you're missing.
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:02
Hostile, shut up. Compared to big space nations, he's nothing. We, which includes me because I'm in the ESUS and GDA along with the USF, can just glass him. And the rest of NATO. And you.

then why dont you start a fight with him if ur so big and bad?
Whittier-
23-08-2004, 08:03
you need to know who you pick fights with.
he wasn't picking a fight. He was only stating his opinion.
Underwater Asylum
23-08-2004, 08:03
Soi, I'm just imparting some wisdom on him. AMF is big, yes, and powerful, but space nations are moreso. Now, I don't even live in America, and I'd be ashamed if I did. Now don't make me glass you.
Schultaria Prime
23-08-2004, 08:03
OOC: Have you read the complete role-plays front to back from AMF, including all proper back-story threads? If you haven't, then judging him is the same as claiming you are a Doctorate in English Literature by only reading Cliff's notes.

Take the time to read one of his RP's from the beginning to end, including all side threads and out of character comments, and then post again. Your opinion might not change on his policies but you will at least respect the quality of his writing as at a near professional (if not entirely professional) level.
Chuang-Han China
23-08-2004, 08:04
automagfreak has comited genocide numerous times on innocent civilians and tortures them too... He is the head of NATO and uses that alliance to push around other nations... He does whatever he wants because of his many allies....

What else is new about powerful nations? =P
Chellis
23-08-2004, 08:04
THA is officially an idiot.

I wrote the ultimatum for CM, and me and 4 members of the congressional board voted for it to be in place. AMF was not one of the people who voted for it.

DPUO was the one who origionally suggested action.

AMF had very little part in the CM situation.
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:05
OOC: Have you read the complete role-plays front to back from AMF, including all proper back-story threads? If you haven't, then judging him is the same as claiming you are a Doctorate in English Literature by only reading Cliff's notes.

Take the time to read one of his RP's from the beginning to end, including all side threads and out of character comments, and then post again. Your opinion might not change on his policies but you will at least respect the quality of his writing as at a near professional (if not entirely professional) level.

im talking about his nation not the guy playing it.
Whittier-
23-08-2004, 08:06
Soi, I'm just imparting some wisdom on him. AMF is big, yes, and powerful, but space nations are moreso. Now, I don't even live in America, and I'd be ashamed if I did. Now don't make me glass you.
I'd just ignore it like I do the other space nations.
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:06
i was talking about soi. he keeps making stupid comments.(i hate that.)
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:06
THA is officially an idiot.

I wrote the ultimatum for CM, and me and 4 members of the congressional board voted for it to be in place. AMF was not one of the people who voted for it.

DPUO was the one who origionally suggested action.

AMF had very little part in the CM situation.

NATO is his alliance is it not? and wow, some of you guys here are pretty mean. isnt this supposed to be a game?
Mekanta
23-08-2004, 08:06
Soi, I'm just imparting some wisdom on him. AMF is big, yes, and powerful, but space nations are moreso. Now, I don't even live in America, and I'd be ashamed if I did. Now don't make me glass you.

-OOC-
UA, Shaddap.

Future Tech VS Modern Tech doesn't work unless the Modern nation agrees, or they start the fight.

Second... Don't make me have to profile swap to Neo-Mekanta and sic Minagoroshi on your ass. You're an ESUS nation, an ally of Mekanta through treaty. That's all the IC provocation I need.

Third... Space Tech is only stronger because of scale. AMF can glass continents. Neo-Mekanta can wipe out Solar Systems. The difference? AMF is much larger, but Neo-Mekanta has better technology.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:07
Soi, I'm just imparting some wisdom on him. AMF is big, yes, and powerful, but space nations are moreso. Now, I don't even live in America, and I'd be ashamed if I did. Now don't make me glass you.

Stop acting so hard. You didnt impart anything but a bunch of insults. And why do you threaten to glass me over a few out of character comments? Are you really that big of a n00b that when people state their opinions you feel that threatening them helps the situation?

And I could go into the fact about you bashing America, but I wont because it is obvious that you are nothing but an ill informed idiot who has nothing better to do than sit around making empty threats.
Underwater Asylum
23-08-2004, 08:07
Yes, but some of us are here to act like it was RL. Edit:
Soi, Maybe you should talk to my friends first. I haven't done anything noobish for quite some time. This is my yearly noobing session.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:09
i was talking about soi. he keeps making stupid comments.(i hate that.)
Can you pont out a stupid comment made by me? I dont beleive I have made any. but yourself, I can point out two from the first page.
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:11
everything you say is starting to sound like a stupid comment.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:11
Yes, but some of us are here to act like it was RL. Edit:
Soi, Maybe you should talk to my friends first. I haven't done anything noobish for quite some time.

You could have fooled me. Every post in this thread that was made by you is something a n00b would post. So until I see different you are a n00b in my book.

But please, don't glass me :rolleyes:
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:13
guys can we plz stop arguing! this is a game and its supposed to be fun.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:13
everything you say is starting to sound like a stupid comment.

Whatever, it is people like you and Underwater Asylum that really make me hate this game.
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:13
oh please tell me what would a noob post. you seem to know. please enlighten me.
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:14
Whatever, it is people like you and Underwater Asylum that really make me hate this game.


if you hate it why are you playing, that would not be conducive to proper use of time.
Underwater Asylum
23-08-2004, 08:15
Well, I'm baling from this topic.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:16
ok first of all I wasnt even addressing you so please mind your own business. Second of all as far as I am concerned this conversation is finished.
Schultaria Prime
23-08-2004, 08:17
OOC:

-Everyone calm down for a moment and give yourself 15 minutes to clear your heads. I think we can all use the breather.

Stop posting and take a rest break for a while.
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:18
my thread certainly has gone to hell.... :(
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:20
this is why i stay away form the forums.
Soi-Disant
23-08-2004, 08:20
my thread certainly has gone to hell.... :(

Yes well, I am sorry about that. I just really hate when people think they are better than someone else.
Whittier-
23-08-2004, 08:21
The head of Raven Corp has just been indicted on 3 charges by a federal grand jury. We are requesting you extradite him to Whittier to face trial.
The Hostile Army
23-08-2004, 08:24
The head of Raven Corp has just been indicted on 3 charges by a federal grand jury. We are requesting you extradite him to Whittier to face trial.

dude this isnt the thread for that!
Hobbeebia
23-08-2004, 08:27
well he did post here so that leaves ground to say that.
Lord-General Drache
23-08-2004, 08:33
my thread certainly has gone to hell.... :(

OOC:

*laughs*Dun worry about it..it happens all the time..however, a lot of people will flamebait on purpose. You did nothin' wrong in posting your honest opinion of something, and meant no harm by it.
Raven corps
23-08-2004, 08:44
after reading this entire time i say fuc* you all. I mr. Felton will never lose my company.NEVER
Universalist Totality
23-08-2004, 09:31
It seems everyone other than AMF has commented. AMF, do you have anything to say about this?
Aust
23-08-2004, 09:37
I havn't commentated.

I basically balive that AMF is probably the best RPer on this game, however he is stupidly powerful, and I don't agree with most of his polcys.
Universalist Totality
23-08-2004, 09:40
I havn't commentated.

I basically balive that AMF is probably the best RPer on this game, however he is stupidly powerful, and I don't agree with most of his polcys. (Yay 2,500 posts)

2,450, actually. You can't spell too good either, can you?
Aust
23-08-2004, 09:44
2,450, actually. You can't spell too good either, can you?
Shoot, I misread it. As for my spelling, as I've told many people, I am dislexic. I can't do much about it but I try.
Universalist Totality
23-08-2004, 09:45
Shoot, I misread it. As for my spelling, as I've told many people, I am dislexic. I can't do much about it but I try.

Ah, sorry, my bad.
Praetonia
23-08-2004, 10:30
Whole post OOC: Hmmm... my view on AMF:

OOC: He's a great RPer and writer, the game would do well with more people like him.

IC: He's committed countless war crimes and atrocities that my liberal nation doesnt much like. However we recognise that there are those that do worse and so we, although disapproving, will not attempt to take action (not to mention we wouldnt get very far).
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:50
thank you for feeding the ridiculous cult around AMF even more
Zaktar
23-08-2004, 10:52
Shoot, I misread it. As for my spelling, as I've told many people, I am dislexic. I can't do much about it but I try.

yay I'm no alone \o/
Sskiss
23-08-2004, 11:02
My people rule over 20 starsystems....We have to much power! ;)
Independent Hitmen
23-08-2004, 11:35
What else is new about powerful nations? =P

*Smiles as he has never commited genocide*

*Looks around wondering if people think he is powerful*
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 11:44
*Smiles as he has never commited genocide*

*Looks around wondering if people think he is powerful*

*looks back wondering the same thing about himself*
Iuthia
23-08-2004, 12:58
Upon doing some research I have discovered these disturbing facts. Automagfreak has commited genocide numerous times on innocent civilians and tortures them too.
So let me get this striaght... you had to research this? Hell, I don't observe the majority of Automagfreeks actions, but I know some of these facts to be true through his own admission.

Automagfreeks genocide only occurs when a nation starts a war with Automagfreek in such a manner that his people damn near demend revenge, hell, most of the time what you concider "Genocide" is actually just lack of attention to civilion casualities... their goal is to end the war as quickly as possible and the majority of the time their opinion is that if they kill enough people in your nation you will give up through sheer shock.

While I don't agree with this policy, it's hardly like they just decide "Hey, that race offends me, I'll kill them all for the fun of it". Automagfreek rarely undertakes genocide and the nations that get destroyed are those which provoked the attack in the first place.

As for innocents being tortured... aside from his lack of attention to civilian casualities in wars with nations (which started wars on AMF or AMF's allies) the only real people AMF tortures are terrorists and serious criminals, like paedophiles.

He is the head of NATO and uses that alliance to push around other nations like Comunist Missisippi.
If I remember correctly, Communist Missisippi pissed a whole lot of nations off and they were willing to agree to AMF's terms. However, I can't say I followed all of that incident but it seemed that CM didn't seem to care too much about it.

Whats more, the fact you were not allowed into NATO yourself suggests this as vengance for no being allowed into the "cool club", If AMF has done alot things you concider bad, why wouldn't you look into this before trying to join this alliance?

He is also the Delegate of his region The Allied Powers which is full of large and powerful nations. Ontop of the fact that I've heard he does whatever he wants because of his many allies. This is disturbing and the rest of the world shold be worried.
Bah... I've seen many nations hide behind their allies, but AMF is not one of them. Automagfreek is fully prepared to handle wars on his own and has done so in the past. This is partly why AMF has so many allies, because they are prepared to back their allies and people know that.

He has been delegate of his region for some time as far as I'm aware and it's a two way thing... I'm sure that if other nations in that region needed help he would help, lest he loss face. He doesn't need them but like me, he knows it's more comfortable to have backing... I kinda don't blame him seeing as every new nation wanting to prove itself want's to try and topple him.

How safe do you feel knowing a madman is running around?
Quite safe concidering. You know why? Because it's a well known fact that in order to have Automagfreek pressure you, you have to have done something to piss him off, usually involving his allies. If you are a peaceful nation that respects other nations soviegn rights you will be left alone... I've never seen a case of Automagfreek just randomly starting on a nation, never.

But please note I do not want war with Automagfreak I am simply speaking out peacefuly about his brutal actions. I think he holds to much power and the world needs to recognize this threat.
You don't want a war with Automagfreek, yet by your arguement you make him out to be a huge warmongerer who would start a war over an insult made against his nation... and if that were the case you would probably be in trouble. But seeing as threads like this, talking about how powerful AMF is (when in truth power isn't always about brute force) it's only going to make him look better.


I can understand why Automagfreek hasn't saught to defend his name on this thread... he doesn't need to because the arguements are so full of holes and most of the larger nations which he cares about have already made up their minds.

Note: I am not an ally of Automagfreek and after concidering and being permitted to join NATO I turned down the offer due to conflicts of interest regarding the constitution... we don't wish to be tied down unless the alliance we join has a total larger then the sum of it's parts (i.e the all the nations work well together)
Praetonia
23-08-2004, 13:02
OOC: I wonder if people would step in if I destroyed a nation that threatened me. Just a thought.
Sevaris
23-08-2004, 13:03
I have the same policy for AMF as I somewhat do for CM.

OOC: He's a great RPer and Writer.

IC: He's killed millions for no good reason. Genocide is never acceptable in wartime, unless it is Hataria.
Independent Hitmen
23-08-2004, 13:06
Whats more, the fact you were not allowed into NATO yourself suggests this as vengance for no being allowed into the "cool club".


OOC: Whilst it may be the cool club it also appears to include just about everybody in NS. Does that mean that everybody apart from me is cool>?
Aust
23-08-2004, 13:08
OOC: I wonder if people would step in if I destroyed a nation that threatened me. Just a thought.
They would, I did that and people stepped into help that nation.
Russian Forces
23-08-2004, 13:08
OCC: Russian Forces could defeat AMF single handedly. He does not scare me. Im always trying to find ways to weaken him indirectly.
Praetonia
23-08-2004, 13:09
They would, I did that and people stepped into help that nation.
OOC: Yah that's what I was getting at. Oh well, I guess AMF is just really good at PR.
Russian Forces
23-08-2004, 13:11
OCC: Many people would RP as good As Automagfreek if they had the time in their hands much like Auto. I for one do not.
Praetonia
23-08-2004, 13:14
OOC: I said PR. Public Relations.
Sskiss
23-08-2004, 13:15
OCC: Many people would RP as good As Automagfreek if they had the time in their hands much like Auto. I for one do not.

I completely agree, There are plenty of fine RP'ers out there. I'm a superb roleplayer and even have my own unique style. I "put" myself inside my alien race and act as it would act and speak. Amoung a few space nations and my ESUS region, I have a very good reputation.
Hamanistan
23-08-2004, 13:24
Why it that all the older nations pick on the new ones? Do they not have a life or anything better to do or are they just scared to pick on someone thier own size?

NOTE: My lost post in this topic so bash me all you want :rolleyes:
Iuthia
23-08-2004, 13:27
OOC: Whilst it may be the cool club it also appears to include just about everybody in NS. Does that mean that everybody apart from me is cool?

(I did note that I'm not in the alliance too... the point wasn't that everyone in the NATO alliance is cool, only that it's become more of a fad. Which is a shame because if they kept the numbers low and only accepted quality nations they would have an alliance which is greater then the sum of it's parts)

Russian Forces; don't get me wrong but even I'm not threatened by you... or Automagfreek. Please lets not get into whos dick is bigger.
Russian Forces
23-08-2004, 13:36
OCC: Iuthia, i love the way you describe it. :D

anyway im just saying that i possibly could. However i agree many big nations do not fight each other. I see myself and a few who are willing to challenge nations
about their size.