NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposal of Conpromise (Whittier, Hataria, and others)

Euroslavia
22-08-2004, 22:16
Due to the aggressive nature of Whittier, and his attempt to force Hataria into the Whittier Pact, I feel it is necessary that Hataria be given the decision to join or not. From what I've seen, Hataria wishes to be independent, especially from the Whittier Pact. Therefore, Here is a proposal that I believe Whittier and Hataria should recognize.

The independence of Hataria will be recognized. All lands taken from Hataria are still owned by the other nations that invaded them. Meanwhile, the Hatarian independence is due to the migration of Hatarians to a new land, where they can proclaim their own sovereignty, free from other invaders.

We require a written promise between both Whittier and Hataria that gives:

1. Hataria the right to exist as an independent nation.
2. Whittier must not try to intervene or force Hataria to join the Whittier Pact.
3. Other nations recognize the right of Hataria being an independent nation (whether he is a bad RP'er or not)
4. An independent Hatarian government be set up by the Hatarian people, and no other nation may interfere, unless accepted by Hataria.

A long term fixation, not required by this Compromise, but strongly recommended, is a peace conference between any nation involved in this current argument. We are willing to host it, here in Euroslavia.
Canan
22-08-2004, 22:20
We agree to these terms as long as Hataria does not attempt to reclaim their old lands.
Hataria
22-08-2004, 22:42
We agree to these terms as long as Hataria does not attempt to reclaim their old lands.

No! I want my old lands back or I will, once I Invade Southern Hataria, Force every Cananite to Become Hatarians, Never to Speek Cananite, But Hatarian, Read Hatarian, and Act like a Good Hatarian.

No lands, No peace!
Sevaris
22-08-2004, 22:43
I say we hold a referendum in New Canan to see whether or not they want to remain a part of Canan.
Whittier-
22-08-2004, 22:43
Whittier- accepts this proposal without reservations or conditions.
Whittier-
22-08-2004, 22:44
whittier will go with what ever you guys decide.
Soi-Disant
22-08-2004, 22:50
Canan has said more than once that there are no Hatarians left in New Canan, so essentially you would be asking Canan settlers if they wanted to remain under Canan rule.
Sevaris
22-08-2004, 22:52
Yes- This is merely for legal purposes- to build a greater case against Hataria.
Hataria
22-08-2004, 22:54
How about this, All Cananites Leave Hataria, or we Turn them into SLAVES!
Grenval
22-08-2004, 22:55
There is no compromising with him.
The BlackWolf Order
22-08-2004, 22:56
You really dont listen, do you slackjaw. All Hatarians in Canan's portion of the remains of your pitiful nation are dead or deported. You have no populus there to work with. Nothing. So therefore, you cant even think of making them slaves, since you got noone to enslave them with.
Soi-Disant
22-08-2004, 23:02
Yes- This is merely for legal purposes- to build a greater case against Hataria.
Ok. Also this is Canan if you havent figured it out. Made me a puppet for fantasy tech.

Hataria, you are thick. You have no people in New Canan. You are nothing more than a memory, and from this point on, I am ignoring you and any attack on New Canan because you will no doubt godmod your taking. I am also ignoring your claims of taking any other part of Hataria as you godmodded taking them.
The God Falltothzu
22-08-2004, 23:07
Just so you know...There are no Hatarians in my portion of Hataria....All the able bodied Hatarians were sent to slave camps...every one else was slaughtered. My portion of Hataria now exists as a millitary base, a spot for my vacation home, and vacation homes that are being sold to other nations
Itinerate Tree Dweller
22-08-2004, 23:32
As is the same with my colony. There are no Hatarians present, just ITDians. I transported all Hatarians to a secure location where they are now settled.
Hataria
24-08-2004, 01:22
I want Canan, GF, an ITD put up for War Crimes for Mass Killings and other atrocities against The Hatarian People!
Hataria
24-08-2004, 01:42
and I want ITD, Canan, and The God Falltothzu to Give up Their Caims to Hataria
Euro Switzerland
24-08-2004, 01:43
I want Canan, GF, an ITD put up for War Crimes for Mass Killings and other atrocities against The Hatarian People!

It's like negotiating with a two-year-old having a mardy about wanting ice cream before dinner...
New Zambuda
24-08-2004, 01:47
I want all Hatarian leaders to be arrested and handed over to a special tribunal, so they can be tried for all their crimes which include: threatening world peace, failure to accept diplomatic negotiations, and they need to be held accountable for all casualties of their many wars. Then and only then can Hataria get its respect back.

-Sheik Mon
Hataria
24-08-2004, 01:59
I want all Hatarian leaders to be arrested and handed over to a special tribunal, so they can be tried for all their crimes which include: threatening world peace, failure to accept diplomatic negotiations, and they need to be held accountable for all casualties of their many wars. Then and only then can Hataria get its respect back.

-Sheik Mon

The Republic of Hataria Demands

(1) All Cananite, ITDer, and The God Falltothzu Troops leave Hataria, say sorry to Hataria, and return The Slaves they have.

(2) All Invaders Must Give back The Lands they captured to The Republic of Hataria.

(3) The Leaders of said Nations must give up trying to Put down what is now a Rebelion that will Never end.

-Caesar Tindin Augao, Head of Government of The Republic of Hataria
Sevaris
24-08-2004, 02:02
Sevaris rejects Hataria's demands. YOU NO LONGER EXIST. THE WORLD DOES NOT RECOGNIZE YOU AS A NATION. LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS- AND WE MAY LET YOU LIVE.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
24-08-2004, 02:02
The Republic of Hataria Demands

(1) All Cananite, ITDer, and The God Falltothzu Troops leave Hataria, say sorry to Hataria, and return The Slaves they have.

(2) All Invaders Must Give back The Lands they captured to The Republic of Hataria.

(3) The Leaders of said Nations must give up trying to Put down what is now a Rebelion that will Never end.

-Caesar Tindin Augao, Head of Government of The Republic of Hataria


ooc: Hahahahahahahahahaha NO!
Soi-Disant
24-08-2004, 02:20
(1) All Cananite, ITDer, and The God Falltothzu Troops leave Hataria, say sorry to Hataria, and return The Slaves they have.
The only thing Im sorry for is for ever trying to help you reestabilish yourself after you were nuked.

(2) All Invaders Must Give back The Lands they captured to The Republic of Hataria.
There is no Republic, only a couple Hatarians that didnt die right away. Oh, ok looks like your down to one, woops, nope, there arent any left, the last Hatarian just slipped and landed on a pointy stick.

(3) The Leaders of said Nations must give up trying to Put down what is now a Rebelion that will Never end.
That is a godmod. Even if therre were enough people to stage a rebellion you have no one to supply you. And you didn't steal any tanks or planes or boats or any other weapons so dont even try to say that you n00b.
Hatarian Mammalia
24-08-2004, 02:29
If Hataria wants a Trial, then let the gut who started this thread be the judge.

LET FREEDOM RING!
Soi-Disant
24-08-2004, 02:31
We all know you are Hataria, its not hard to figure out. And there is nothing to go to trial over because he doesnt exist.
Xeraph
24-08-2004, 02:34
From: King Alaric of Xeraph

I have been following this thread for a while, and I find it interesting that this 10-week old nation is demanding this and threatening that.

I fail to understand why the other nations don't just band together and put an end to this little nation's squalling.

Or, if you prefer, I can do it by myself..........
Itinerate Tree Dweller
24-08-2004, 02:38
ooc:

Let me put this is terms that you will understand, HM: ITD does not recognize that Hataria even exists. I have, in fact, ignored him completely (as I am about too do too you.). The fact that he continues to post is a moot point, as other nations ignore him also. His so-called "rebellion" is a figment of his imagination. I also don't recognize international courts, which reeks of a new world order/international government, which ITD is completely against.

ic:

What is "Hataria" that you speak of. Are you talking about that nation was destroyed long ago in a war?
Soi-Disant
24-08-2004, 02:42
Xeraph, he has been destroyed like five times. He is like a mold that no matter how many times you clean or scrape it off it just keeps coming back.
The God Falltothzu
24-08-2004, 02:54
Wow....I just refused to look at these threads for a few days...man i was nice but i got over come by the urge to laugh at Hataria once again...


OK here is the resolution to bring this all to an end. We Never refer to Hataria, post in one of his threads, aknowledge his posts, ANYTHING. Follow me and resist the urge. If your with me do not post here ever!!!
Soi-Disant
24-08-2004, 02:59
God it is so hard though. But what must be done must be done no matter what.
Euroslavia
24-08-2004, 03:52
I tried to organize some sort of compromise, hoping that Hataria would agree to it. It gave him his own land, and a place for his people to stay. It also gave his old land to the ones who conquered it fair and square. You would think this would have been ok. The land that Hataria moved to could be equal to the mass of his old territory, so I'm not seeing why he rejected this. He was given his land, his independence, and recognization. You can't ask for more, and he was lucky enough to get any land at all after being destroyed.
Grenval
24-08-2004, 04:20
I tried to organize some sort of compromise, hoping that Hataria would agree to it. It gave him his own land, and a place for his people to stay. It also gave his old land to the ones who conquered it fair and square. You would think this would have been ok. The land that Hataria moved to could be equal to the mass of his old territory, so I'm not seeing why he rejected this. He was given his land, his independence, and recognization. You can't ask for more, and he was lucky enough to get any land at all after being destroyed.

I offered him all that, along with a non-mutal, one sided protection pact, where I protected him. But nooooooooooooo.
Whittier-
24-08-2004, 05:37
No one can say I rejected the terms of this proposal nor can it be said I accepted with any reservations.
Whittier accepted the proposal unconditionally, unfortunately, the warlords in Hataria have rejected this noble effort at peace.
Xeraph
24-08-2004, 12:51
Xeraph, he has been destroyed like five times. He is like a mold that no matter how many times you clean or scrape it off it just keeps coming back.


OK...didn't know that.

Xeraph hereby implements the "Ignore" clause of the NS rules. Hataria will be ignored from this point on.

Alaric