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[RANT] Ignored.

Sirens of Titan
22-08-2004, 20:02
Ain't the ignore feature grand? I think it is. People are ignoring more and more daily and I think it's sad. Sad because people can't take it somebody tries something, exploits a weakness or uses something to their advantage. I feel like playing the teacher tonight here and lets analyze a few wonderful cases shall we?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350628

I should have contacted Mr Sarzonia first. Haha yeah right, osama is going to call tony blair or bush first when hes going to blow up a crowded bus. Perhaps any of you didn't know it but terror is ment to come out of nowhere. Seriously. Where did our esteemed friend Mr Sarzonia said he wanted to be contacted first? Why didn't he said 'contact me and we'll talk things over'? Why did he used the lovely ignore immeadiately? You know why?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350389

Small tip to those who have the nerve to terrorize the world: too much destruction and death means ignore. Let's just blow up buildings and busses, those will only cause 10.000 deaths at most. Oh no, you need to RP everything in order to let the victim recognize the attack. You know why this is ignored?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=332001

Everything was perfect. People praised my originality but hey, it's freeform RP! That means realism can be set aside. Shame this was ignored, this could have been such a great RP. Oh well... Are you starting to know why this has been ignored too?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=322506

This is perhaps the finest example of ignoring. A strategy, a plan, a target and well written too. A loud yay for freeform RP, this is ignored too. Why?

The moral of this rant? The whole concept of ignored has been used in the past but is abused now. Out of nowhere people scream ignore just to be safe. I'm a patient person and I'm giving people a third, yes even a fourth chance when they mess up. But when someone comes in, says ignored and gets is a bit strange now isn't it?

Now onto the question at hand, why did all those marvellous plans ignored? Was is the sheer stupidity of the writer? No it wasn't. Was it the lack of common sense? No it wasn't. You know what it was? Something the people who ignore deny. The inability to recognize loss, to accept defeat, to ackwoledge humiliation. Yes, that's the truth. In every war I read I see people trying desperately to minimize their losses, damage control and other things bordering on godmodding. And when someone else steps out of the line with losses lower than him its suddenly an ignore. I'm sure people agree with me on this one.

Break the vicious cycle, accept losses and be a real roleplayer instead of the cowards most of you are.
The Zoogie People
22-08-2004, 20:07
Haha. This isn't real life. He has every right to ignore you if you do a terror attack on him, because of how many factors go into it: it's not every terror attack that succeeds. It's a rule of thumb for just about every roleplay - contact the other person beforehand, see if he/she wants to do this RP.

Note: this applies to Sarzonia's thread only. Didn't read the others.

Read Euroslavia's sticky, will you?
Kelonian States
22-08-2004, 20:08
The use of ignore is getting a little extreme. I've seen nations of ages twice my own I.G.N.O.R.E'ing perfectly well-RP'ed attacks simply because they didn't like being beaten or outsmarted. I guess a lot of people on NS play it because they like being in control of their own imaginary country and when someone manages to find a way through the armour, they aren't in control anymore. They don't like it.

The flipside is that if they do it too much, no-one will RP with them. Their reputation will preceed them. Then they can do whatever they want in their nation, and go on fine and dandy where everything is perfect, but they'll soon work out that's no fun in an RP environment. It's a self-defeating problem.

- Just my $0.02.
Praetonia
22-08-2004, 20:08
Although I agree with most of that, your attack on Sarzonia was neither fair nor well thought out. The attack itself wasn't major or clever, just 'I blow up a mall' expressed more eloquently, therefore I dont see why you're so hung up over it. Whilst I generally agree that you shouldnt have to ask first, I mean nations dont ask before attacking each other so I dont see why they should have to with something as irrelevant as a terror attack, it is accepted RP convention, and so Sarzonia was within his rights to ignore you. Your comment about terrorists phoning their targets is also irrelevant as your request should be OOC rather than IC. So lay off Sarzonia, out of all of them I dont think he deserved it.

EDIT: OMGzorz TAG one of those was the first RP I ever read.
Sarzonia
22-08-2004, 20:16
Let's examine the case you decided to highlight first. It is common courtesy within the NS community to contact another RPer first before beginning a RP. You would be able to find that information out if you spent some time looking through various stickies or reading the forum. However, you did not do that.

If you had contacted me about proposing a RP via TG, I would have notified you of the fact that I already have a similiar RP that I'm doing. I also would have informed you that I am looking to do more character development/cultural RPs than straight up action/war RPs. I would not have closed the door completely to that particular RP in the future, however.

Secondly, in the RP world, you can not force anyone to RP with you if he or she chooses not to for whatever reason. As I hinted earlier, I would be more than willing to keep a future RP opportunity with you in mind if you had given me the common courtesy of notifying me ahead of time.

If you have noticed Communist Mississippi's RPs, they are planned in (excruciating) detail, right down to the outcome. If you don't contact him in advance, he doesn't RP with you. Do I think *that* goes too far? Yes. But he does have a point in that you should work some of the details out, preferrably using private channels so that you know each set of limitations (such as Holy Panooly's prohibition against nuclear attacks). In addition, if I post an RP, I post it as Invite Only for a reason. I don't want a country coming in and carpet nuking like Artitsa did in the Doujin-Feazanthia incident. I didn't want Automagfreek coming in and trying to compel me to allow one of my states to secede in my Civil War because I planned for my country to win that civil war.

I understand your statement about Osama bin Laden not calling President Bush to tell him he's going to launch another attack and exactly where, but in the NS world, we have certain expectations of different RPers. Whether that takes the form of planning *everything* in an RP or setting some basic parameters of the RP in advance and allowing for freeform RP to grow out of that, it's a tool that allows for better, more enjoyable RP.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:23
@ praetonia, if the RP delevopled further you would have seen my attack had a very ingenious plan. Too bad Sarzonia never gave me opertunity to do it.

@ zoogie people, euroslavia's 'guide to terrorism' is one of the worst things ever stickied in this forum. It only shows what bad RP is and gives no reason why. Its completely biased and adds to the general feeling of automaticly ignoring any terror attacks. In my opinion it should be deleted. Terrorism is impossible in nationstates. Out of 10 terror attacks 9 get ignoring automaticly. I'm not talking about n00b terrorists but the really good ones like the ones named below.

@ sarzonia, you dont see the reason why I posted this do you? Contacting a person about terror attacks is something rarely happened. GLA, HLF, Inner Heaven, Outer Heaven, Imperial Heaven and me never did it. Don't come in and say READ DA STICKIES and get out. I've read them all and I don't agree with them. Stickies like the terror one are an indication how things should go. Too bad most people love to take things to the extreme and out of proportions and say: well he didnt read the stickies so its an ignore. That is what you are basicly saying. Who says anything about Communist Mississippi's roleplays? I'm not him and neither are you. Its strange, you said you never saw me before and immeadiately you ignore it. Strange when you didnt saw me before you could have sent me a TG with your RP guidelines but instead you chose to ignore it out of fear of potential loss of dignity ie a terrorist succeded to bomb something in your nation.

People the reason why I posted this is because terrorism is no longer possible in nationstates. People are forming groups with their friends who know they don't do anything that might harm them. Sure, a revolution and civil war happen but look more carefully. But they have an outcome that doesn't harm their friends in any way. I hate the formation of groups. I can clearly see them, it doesnt take much skill to find them.

5-500 million. These small nations come together very easy. Small, not powerful and trying hard to blend in with the next group. The ones who want to be a terrorist state are either n00b terrorists or good ones, but that doesnt matter because they're small.

500-1 billion. The growing nations are growing in power. Trying hard to become dominating on the world stage and forming alliances to intimidate other nations. These people feel too good for something as low as terror and ignore it almost on sight.

1 billion-2 billion. Pseudo-superpower. Trowing their weight around these nations love to show how big they are. Rarely accepts a terror attack.

2 billion+. These nations are the 'superpowers' of NS. Terror attacks on these nations is unheard of since their superior intelligence agencies track down the ones who did it within 5 minutes.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 10:42
ooc: Are you saying you'd be any different? Would you easily accept defeat? What if AMF decided to annex your country? Would you RP the obvious destruction of your country?
Camewot
23-08-2004, 10:43
OOC: He did it when he bombed BC, his nations was totally destroyed.
So yes
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 10:44
SoT, the problem with your whole arguement is that you have no regard for the other person, for the fun they can have with an RP. You cannot trap someone in a situation where they cannot possibly win, that's god-moding and it isn't fun for anyone but the person doing it. Get some respect for your fellow RPers, there's a reason the Guide to Terrorism is so strict, it's because terrorism is very hard to do and still produce an RP that everyone can enjoy.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:45
ooc: Are you saying you'd be any different? Would you easily accept defeat? What if AMF decided to annex your country? Would you RP the obvious destruction of your country?

Yes I would. I accepted loss before and will do it again.

EDIT #1: Industrial Experiment, I don't agree with that. You're saying everyone is bound to the rules laid down in Euroslavia's sticky but that would produce ineffective and useless terror attacks over and over again. People ignore killings of key figueres, extremely large bombings and more things who are deemed as 'too powerful'. Trying to be original usually ends up in being ignored.

EDIT #2: I'd make an agreement with AMF to let me play with my nation even after he conquered me. I made this nation and nobody is taking it away from me. Everything else may happen to may nation that's realistic.
Camewot
23-08-2004, 10:45
SoT, the problem with your whole arguement is that you have no regard for the other person, for the fun they can have with an RP. [b] You cannot trap someone in a situation where they cannot possibly win, that's god-moding [b] and it isn't fun for anyone but the person doing it. Get some respect for your fellow RPers, there's a reason the Guide to Terrorism is so strict, it's because terrorism is very hard to do and still produce an RP that everyone can enjoy.

Do you mean if I conquer a nation and I have one city left to conquer its godmodding??
Man, then whats the point of freeform RP?
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 10:46
Yes I would. I accepted loss before and will do it again.

ooc: So if I decided to crush your nation into dust, and gave you no possible outcomes that would be beneficial to you, you'd RP it anyway?
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:49
Seeing as I have no allies and I have no real armies to defend my borders, yes.
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 10:51
Do you mean if I conquer a nation and I have one city left to conquer its godmodding??
Man, then whats the point of freeform RP?

I'm talking about from the very beginning of an RP. For you to conquer an entire nation, that person must accept the damage involved in you attacking and taking their land, so they obviously are in agreement with the way you are RPing. However, just starting an RP with something that puts the other RPer in a situation where he is forced to take massive damage with no chance of being able to defend is god-moding.

For instance, I used to RP on forums where Future-tech was the norm, and no one actually cared whether or not a technology was really possible. I fired an anti-matter cannon at another ship that, for all intents and purposes, had no way of knowing it was coming and no way of dodging in time. However, I absolutely riddled my post with 'what if's and 'maybe's to give the other guy a chance to get out of the attack without being completely obliterated. However, when another user came around and simply froze time and removed the guy I was attacking's ship from the location the attack was being aimed at, this left me no time to respond to the attack, and no way to respond except as the other had dictated I must respond. That is god-moding, but what I had done was not.
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 10:53
EDIT #1: Industrial Experiment, I don't agree with that. You're saying everyone is bound to the rules laid down in Euroslavia's sticky but that would produce ineffective and useless terror attacks over and over again. People ignore killings of key figueres, extremely large bombings and more things who are deemed as 'too powerful'. Trying to be original usually ends up in being ignored.

The thing is, the point of RPing on Nationstates isn't to "Win", but for everyone to have a good time and enjoy themselves. If you were to place someone in a situation from which they cannot escape, and of which they had no prior OoC knowledge, and you force them to take damage that you dictate to them, even if you don't spell it out in your post, you are god-moding.
Camewot
23-08-2004, 10:54
Seeing as I have no allies and I have no real armies to defend my borders, yes.

Check youre TG's
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:55
That's what I'm trying to say, people need to be less firm and confident about all their actions. When you leave room for doubt and discussion a RP will be so much better because then it's really freeform.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 10:58
The thing is, the point of RPing on Nationstates isn't to "Win", but for everyone to have a good time and enjoy themselves. If you were to place someone in a situation from which they cannot escape, and of which they had no prior OoC knowledge, and you force them to take damage that you dictate to them, even if you don't spell it out in your post, you are god-moding.

I never tried to win in nationstates. I'm trying to succeed in doing what I must. I never use OOC knowledge for IC things (i'll get back to that later) and I'm always very generous with deaths. In fact, when I bomb something in another nation then it's completely up the person in question. Logical thinking is required though, when one blows up a bus it isn't empty. Other than that, I feel people should be free to play without ignoring everything they don't like.
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 10:59
That's what I'm trying to say, people need to be less firm and confident about all their actions. When you leave room for doubt and discussion a RP will be so much better because then it's really freeform.

The thing is, what you're espousing is the complete entrapment of someone in an attack they cannot avoid, defend against, or even respond to in the case of non-state sponsered terrorism. This is basically like starting an RP by saying your planet destroying laser beam has entered the system, fired, and left without anyone know it was there and the laser can't be stopped by any shields or armor in existance.

EDIT: Just added in what statement specifically I was addressing seeing as he posted before I finished mine.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:01
I can be real short about that; I never place someone in a situation which is hopeless for the victim in question.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 11:02
Seeing as I have no allies and I have no real armies to defend my borders, yes.

Alright. I guess you're missing the point I wasn't doing a very good job getting at.

You're not giving people any incentive to RP with you at all. In your opening posts, you create these situations where there is no possible hope of escape. You're essentially assigning them damage because you're cornering them in your initial posts. You set the situation up so that there's nothing they can do to avoid the eventual outcome. I mean, look at that RP about the La Palma tidal wave. Yeah, it's a great concept, but you're screwing people from the get go. You've already sent the wave on it's way before anyone can even respond. Anyone that wants to play only has 3 hours until the wave washes away half their nation, and the only way that anyone can possibly avoid the destruction of their nation is to godmod a ridiculous excuse for why they won't suffer, something you'll likely call them on and ignore. So, from the start, they've already lost. And the post on Credonia's economy. Yeah, it's a brilliant plan, but it gives him no possible way to escape save the total collapse of his economy. You state multiple times that if he tries to do anything to save himself you'll cry godmod, so what possible incentive can he have to RP that with you? You've already decided for him that his economy is going to hell and there's nothing he can do about it.

Yeah, your plans are brilliant and flawless, but why should we RP them with you? You corner people so that the only outcome is the one most favorable to you. It seems to me you're more interested in stroking your own ego than actually engaging in thoughtful RP. You create these plans to show off how much smarter you are than the rest of us. We don't care. I'd ignore those RPs too.
Jonothana
23-08-2004, 11:09
@ zoogie people, euroslavia's 'guide to terrorism' is one of the worst things ever stickied in this forum. It only shows what bad RP is and gives no reason why. Its completely biased and adds to the general feeling of automaticly ignoring any terror attacks. In my opinion it should be deleted. Terrorism is impossible in nationstates. Out of 10 terror attacks 9 get ignoring automaticly. I'm not talking about n00b terrorists but the really good ones like the ones named below.


Think about it this way : YOU get ignored, not them ignoring you. People obide by the stickies, and if you don't, you can EXPECT to be ignored!

You don't seem to understand role play so maybe if you read the stickies again, this time realising that you aren't the supreme ruler over all, you might learn something. If you play by your own rules that no one elese understand, you may as well ignore yourself. Also, listen to Euroslavia, he's experianced.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:10
When someone is in an airport IN my own nation then others chances to stop are practicly nil.

Yeah, your plans are brilliant and flawless, but why should we RP them with you? You corner people so that the only outcome is the one most favorable to you. It seems to me you're more interested in stroking your own ego than actually engaging in thoughtful RP. You create these plans to show off how much smarter you are than the rest of us. We don't care. I'd ignore those RPs too.

No they aren't. The tidal wave is the only exception but all my other terror RP's there were legio options for escape or some form of damage control. Credonia had tons of options to prevent maximum damage. I'm not going over them again but he just ignored it because it was too damaging and very hard to RP too. I try to minimize the chances of making a RP impossible to escape of, but the ones are made are hard to avoid but its possible.

Think about it this way : YOU get ignored, not them ignoring you. People obide by the stickies, and if you don't, you can EXPECT to be ignored!

You don't seem to understand role play so maybe if you read the stickies again, this time realising that you aren't the supreme ruler over all, you might learn something. If you play by your own rules that no one elese understand, you may as well ignore yourself. Also, listen to Euroslavia, he's experianced.

Ramblings of a nation which can be placed in the first group. I've played longer and more than you and Euroslavia never tried to bomb something in secret in another hostile nation so he has actually no right to lecture terrorists of good roleplaying. I follow my own roleplaying guidelines and I dont need anyone for that. I never said I'm the supreme ruler over all, quit jumping into conclusions. Yet you try convince me of your right and I'm the ruler over all? Sounds very contradicting. I was ignored several times because people didn't like thinking their way out of a nasty situation or because the plan was almost foolproof. You weren't here before were you?
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 11:16
I can be real short about that; I never place someone in a situation which is hopeless for the victim in question.

The first example you gave was the only one where there was any true hope of escape, and even then you are essentially saying you are in control of the plane without giving anyone a chance to defend it. The fact that you failed to contact the person you were attacking beforehand is what really sunk it, though.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:20
The first example you gave was the only one where there was any true hope of escape, and even then you are essentially saying you are in control of the plane without giving anyone a chance to defend it. The fact that you failed to contact the person you were attacking beforehand is what really sunk it, though.

Reread what I said. The person who was going to terrorize Sarzonia was still in my nation and he was going to board an airplane to Nazguul (he agreed with that) so until I entered Credonia to fly from there to Sarzonia my man was untouchable. I didn't know I should have contacted Sarzonia before but as he put it: I never saw you before. If that was the case why didn't he TG with his RP rules? Why the immediate ignore?
Jonothana
23-08-2004, 11:20
Accept it : You've lost. You can't RP against another nation without notifying them. You can't RP when there is no possible chance of escape because this is what happens (providing they are stupid enough not to ignore) :

A tidal wave if destroying your nation

Thousands died, and there was a large funeral service afterwards.

WHATS THE FUN IN THAT
Industrial Experiment
23-08-2004, 11:22
Reread what I said. The person who was going to terrorize Sarzonia was still in my nation and he was going to board an airplane to Nazguul (he agreed with that) so until I entered Credonia to fly from there to Sarzonia my man was untouchable. I didn't know I should have contacted Sarzonia before but as he put it: I never saw you before. If that was the case why didn't he TG with his RP rules? Why the immediate ignore?

Something tells me he ignored the thread and the attack itself, not you. Few people actually make permenent use of the Ignore Function. He had every right to ignore your attack considering you never told him of it beforehand, and he never agreed to be attacked. Terrorism is quite different than conventional war, and that is why it requires all these extra pre-cautions.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:27
Accept it : You've lost. You can't RP against another nation without notifying them. You can't RP when there is no possible chance of escape because this is what happens (providing they are stupid enough not to ignore) :

A tidal wave if destroying your nation

Thousands died, and there was a large funeral service afterwards.

WHATS THE FUN IN THAT

Really? You sound very raged my friend perhaps you should calm down a bit. It's only game you know. You know NOTHING of me and you jump into conclusions ignoramus. See what's going on? You just can't take it people are breaking out of the endless boring cycle of lame wars and talks after that. Look at yourself, screaming while running around in circles about things you never took part in, weren't there and have no knowledge about. The tidal wave thing was a test, nothing more nothing less to see how peoples reaction would be. And as expected, everybody ignores it out of the same principle: too much destruction.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 11:31
No they aren't. The tidal wave is the only exception but all my other terror RP's there were legio options for escape or some form of damage control. Credonia had tons of options to prevent maximum damage. I'm not going over them again but he just ignored it because it was too damaging and very hard to RP too. I try to minimize the chances of making a RP impossible to escape of, but the ones are made are hard to avoid but its possible.


Okay, I'll change what I said. Your amazing plans are virtually impossible to escape from. Still, that doesn't change my point. What incentive is there to RP with you? You corner people in your first post and set them up for huge damage with very little room for escape. Maybe there are options for Credonia to escape, but they're few and far between. You come up with these "perfect" scenarios where you'll only accept complete success of your plan; anything less is godmodding. It's no fun RPing the destruction of your nation, no matter what you think. Granted Credonia fires off that ignore cannon a wee bit too much, but the situation you put him in gave him no chance at all.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:35
Okay, I'll change what I said. Your amazing plans are virtually impossible to escape from. Still, that doesn't change my point. What incentive is there to RP with you? You corner people in your first post and set them up for huge damage with very little room for escape. Maybe there are options for Credonia to escape, but they're few and far between. You come up with these "perfect" scenarios where you'll only accept complete success of your plan; anything less is godmodding. It's no fun RPing the destruction of your nation, no matter what you think. Granted Credonia fires off that ignore cannon a wee bit too much, but the situation you put him in gave him no chance at all.

Wrong. I expected him to ignore it like he did with Belem's attack and most of the others. My scenario's are original but far from perfect. A perfect plan would be godmodding since there's no such thing as a perfect plan. Even if somebody's going to destroy my nation i'll always come back because nationstates isn't about winning. There's always room to escape, you just have to think a little harder
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 11:41
Wrong. I expected him to ignore it like he did with Belem's attack and most of the others. My scenario's are original but far from perfect. A perfect plan would be godmodding since there's no such thing as a perfect plan. Even if somebody's going to destroy my nation i'll always come back because nationstates isn't about winning. There's always room to escape, you just have to think a little harder

Your scenarios aren't original and are very close to perfect. You know how to tie up all the loose ends, I'll give you that. But you're still not answering my question. Why should people RP with you? There's no fun in RPing a situation with almost no chance of escape, and this is supposed to be about having fun, not destroying someone else's economy, airport, whatever. You place people in situations where they're almost assured severe damage with no possible recourse. It seems to me you're missing the point. You say you know NS isn't about winning but you don't seem to show that. You seem more concerned with showing how brilliant your plans are than providing an interesting story.
Mattikistan
23-08-2004, 11:49
I was reading through all this and remembering a few things I've seen during my time here, and it made me think of something, possibly highlighted by SoT even if he didn't intend to (though I think he may have). Who here even looks at threads that don't have the words 'war', 'terror' or 'store' in the title? They do exist, I've seen them. Completely peaceful threads that couldn't really be used for violence at all. Some them only have one view, let alone replies. I'd find some, but they seem to be buried...
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:50
Your scenarios aren't original and are very close to perfect. You know how to tie up all the loose ends, I'll give you that. But you're still not answering my question. Why should people RP with you? There's no fun in RPing a situation with almost no chance of escape, and this is supposed to be about having fun, not destroying someone else's economy, airport, whatever. You place people in situations where they're almost assured severe damage with no possible recourse. It seems to me you're missing the point. You say you know NS isn't about winning but you don't seem to show that. You seem more concerned with showing how brilliant your plans are than providing an interesting story.

Thanks for the compliment :)

You know that's actually quite a good question. Holy Panooly asked me the same thing and I couldn't answer it either, hence why he left NS. Well, in my roleplays there is a chance of escape but you have to look good for it. People suggested what Credonia could do to prevent it, but he already ignored it. The tidal wave thing wasn't really ment as a serious attempt to destroy the world. It was more of a test and to show people safety in NS is an illusion. Granted, the tidal wave attack was horrible roleplay but it was realistic. I wouldn't class it as some terrible attempt to destroy everything but more as something that requires great guts. If the majority of nationstates would recognize it then my nation would be destroyed. By writing the RP I knew my faith was sealed the minute I pressed submit new post if they wouldn't ingore it, that is.

All of my acts of terror resolve around a story which started back in the day when everybody was franticly hunting terrorists. I created myself for fun and to show those arrogant nations who thought they had it all figured that terror can't be put down like they believed. If I played nationstates to win then I would handle things completely different.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2004, 11:53
Thanks for the compliment :)

You know that's actually quite a good question. Holy Panooly asked me the same thing and I couldn't answer it either, hence why he left NS. Well, in my roleplays there is a chance of escape but you have to look good for it. People suggested what Credonia could do to prevent it, but he already ignored it. The tidal wave thing wasn't really ment as a serious attempt to destroy the world. It was more of a test and to show people safety in NS is an illusion. Granted, the tidal wave attack was horrible roleplay but it was realistic. I wouldn't class it as some terrible attempt to destroy everything but more as something that requires great guts. If the majority of nationstates would recognize it then my nation would be destroyed. By writing the RP I knew my faith was sealed the minute I pressed submit new post if they wouldn't ingore it, that is.

All of my acts of terror resolve around a story which started back in the day when everybody was franticly hunting terrorists. I created myself for fun and to show those arrogant nations who thought they had it all figured that terror can't be put down like they believed. If I played nationstates to win then I would handle things completely different.

Well, no offense, but I do think it was quite naive of you to even expect Credonia to accept that.
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 11:56
Naive isn't the right word. It was foolish of me to do this with Credonia who obviously ignores everything directed at him. I still regret I wasted such a marvellous oppertunity on somebody like him. But then again, who wouldn't ignore it? It seems original and attacks with a big impact are bound to be ignored. This isn't something new though.
Commorargh
23-08-2004, 12:37
Igonre feature is great....
Sirens of Titan
23-08-2004, 12:43
Igonre feature is great....

When used properly.
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 20:37
I refuse to let this beautiful thread die.
Sarzonia
24-08-2004, 20:41
Something tells me he ignored the thread and the attack itself, not you. Few people actually make permenent use of the Ignore Function. He had every right to ignore your attack considering you never told him of it beforehand, and he never agreed to be attacked. Terrorism is quite different than conventional war, and that is why it requires all these extra pre-cautions.

I'm not sure how you figured that out, but you are absolutely correct. Even though things got off to a bad start, I have not ignored SoT. I might have a "soft ignore" on him (preferring not to read his RPs unless one jumps out at me), but I only have a "hard ignore" on two people, where I use the Ignore feature and don't have anything to do with the RPer involved.
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 20:43
I'm not sure how you figured that out, but you are absolutely correct. Even though things got off to a bad start, I have not ignored SoT. I might have a "soft ignore" on him (preferring not to read his RPs unless one jumps out at me), but I only have a "hard ignore" on two people, where I use the Ignore feature and don't have anything to do with the RPer involved.

Let's start all over again then, if you feel that way. I'm feeling like ignoring a certain person too.
Sarzonia
24-08-2004, 21:00
Let's start all over again then, if you feel that way. I'm feeling like ignoring a certain person too.

I'll have to take a look at the original post in the thread. We should discuss some general parameters to work out the kinks and make a good RP out of it. Now that I'm through with my Mutiny on the Ithaca thread, I think I might be able to put a bit more into a RP like that.
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 21:05
I'll have to take a look at the original post in the thread. We should discuss some general parameters to work out the kinks and make a good RP out of it. Now that I'm through with my Mutiny on the Ithaca thread, I think I might be able to put a bit more into a RP like that.

Sure