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OOC: I am going Trek/SW Hybrid :)

We would like to purcahse 500 StarFighters for our FlagShip due to be complete in several years. We would like the fighters by then.
They have to be cable of Warp Flight.
And be durable and quick.
This is a one time deal as there will only ever be ONE of these ships.
http://www.merzo.net/images/10mppSWSuperStarDestroyer.gif

On behalf of Prime Minister Vialdi of Xessmithia, we offer what we believe to be a lucrative deal.

We will offer all of our aerospace production facilties for manufacturing your 500 fighters. We currently have one low-cost midrange fighter design that would be acceptable for your purposes. The specs and plans were taken by us during our war of succession with the Republic of Androngonia.

XASF-12 Multi-role fighter

Armament:
- 2 wingtip LinAc(Linear accelerator) Neutral Particle beams with an output of 2.3 megajoules.
-6 external missile hardpoints

Armor:
-30mm of a titanium/uranium/carbon quasi-ceramic alloy, equivalent 70mm RHA

Energy Shielding:
-not standard but can be equipped in place of interior cargo bay

Powerplant:
-2 anti-matter boosted deuterium/tritium mini-fusion reactors

Performance:
-standard acceleration, 450 gravities
maximum acceleration for 30 seconds, 640 gravities
-rotation, 500 degrees/s
-endurance, 5 days non-combat operations w/o refueling
12 hours combat operations w/o refueling
1 month supply of rations and lifesupport w/o replenishment

Drives:
Sublight:
- 1 Nightfall-class high-thrust fusion motor
FTL:
- 1 externally mounted Gen I Tachyon Drive, top speed 15c

Sensors:
- 1 full-spectrum active/passive EM scanner
- 1 tachyon sweep FTL early warning scanner

Stealth:
-N/A

Crew:
-2, pilot and scanner officer

Cost: 12 million USD/unit, includes technical manuals for training and maintence


If this meets your requirements Xessmithia can have all 500 units manufactured in 10 RL days from the confirmation of the contract. Faster for a significantly increased cost.

Thank you for your time,
Georg Aster, Department of Commerce

Craft : SSD "Executor II" Hyperspacing into Area, at 9km

Admiral : East Coast Federation you are using Imperial Technology, This is unacceptable. We Demand Compensation...

New Craft : 5x TIE Fighter at 9km
New Craft : Shuttle "Diplomat" at 9km

ooc:the SSD doesn't have room to fit 500 fighters btw

Xessmithia's offer still stands. We can provide the specified number of units in the time described. ECF's and Emperor Brudenell's relations will not affect our offer towards ECF.

Georg Aster, Department of Commerce

Admiral : Mr Aster....Surrender all of your vessels for searches. Failure to Comply will result in physical force

New Craft : 3x TIE Fighter at 9km
New Craft : Shuttle "Inspect Squad" at 9km

Georg Aster: Admiral, we do not wish to cause an incident and you are welcome to search our ship, alas we have only one Tachyon drive equipped shuttle available to the Department of Commerce. Your inspection squad is clear to dock at our underbelly port. I am sure they will find every thing in order.

Craft 3x TIE Fighters have docked with SSD "Executor II"
Craft Shuttle "Inspect Squad" has docked at Underbelly Port

Admiral : Unit-25, Search and Secure the ship
Unit-25 : Roger....Move out Troopers....
Admiral : Please Send us your previous Flight Records, to System 80.1.0.84

Craft Firespray "Slave One" Hyperspacing into Area at 12km

Admiral : This is Imperial Business Leave at Once
Fett : I was just Leaving....

Craft Firespray "Slave One" has Hyperspaced out of Area

Aster: I am transmitting my flight records now.

Transmission: (Flight Record)
- 18/08/04 test flight launch, Xess Prime to Lunar orbit and back
-21/08/04 dispatched to ECF on receiving their placement of a request for Aerospace fighters
-22/08/04 arrived in ECF space
-22/08/04 landed on ECF world for trade talks
-22/08/04 halted operations for a search by Unit 25 of Executor II

Hello

The Empire of Balrogga would like to submit our fighters for consideration.

Here are some views:


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Name: AS-5 Proteus Fighter

Type: Multi-Role Aerospace Fighter Craft
Length: 14 meters
Mass: 60 metric tons
Power: 4 Micro-Fusion Reactors
Crew: 1 Pilot
Agility: Class A
Engines:
4 AS-23 Multi-Reactionary Drives
Omni-Directional VTOL
Supraluminal Jump Activator
Hyperspace capable
Weapons:
2 High Energy Pulse Cannons
Wild Weasel Cannon Turret (low energy sustained burst)
2 Multi-Purpose Launch Tubes (Missiles, Torpedoes, Probes, Ect...)
Rear Proximity Mine Launcher
Rear Mount Tractor Beam
Armor: Bio-Enhanced Reflective Armor
Neurolink
Price: 12,000,000 USD

Unit-25 : He's Clean
Admiral : Ok, your logs check out. You are clear to leave the area. Unit-25 return to base, we're going to sort out this mess of our technology
Unit-25 : Yes Admiral

Craft : Star Destroyer "Fenfir" Hyperspacing into area at 8km
New Craft : 5 TIE Bombers at 8km
New Craft : 5 TIE Fighters at 8km

Fenfir : Sorry for Keeping You Waiting Admiral, Had a Little Colonization Incident

Admiral : Quite alright Captain Lanx......East Coast Federation Surrender all vessels at once, or be destroyed..... Balrogga you are entering restricted space, surrender your vessel at once.

New Craft : 5 TIE Bombers at 9km

Just dock at the Babylon Space Tower and you can test one of them.

His Imperial Majesty
Nhur-Galladu

Admiral : Balrogga....this is your final warning, surrender your vessel.

Craft Star Destroyer "Fenfir" has Targetted Balrogga's Vessel
Craft SSD "Executor II" has Targetted Balrogga's Vessel

Incomming transmission:

Uh, Sir? I don't know what vessel you are talking about. This is Babylon Space Tower. We are connected to Terra. This is not a ship.

Can you please clairify that last request?

If you wish to dock with the tower, request an approach pattern. You are welcome to dock anytime.

Admiral : If that be the case, keep all craft in the area grounded. As for The East Coast Federation, you have our warning....take heed to it.

All Crafts have docked with neccesary Capital Ships
Craft : Star Destroyer "Fenfir" has Hyperspaced out of Area
Craft : SSD "Executor II" has Hyperspaced out of area

Aster: Admiral we request to stay in system till trade negotiations are complete with ECF.

Aster to ECF: I am authorized to offer you 3000 Preserver Type Ic Kinetic Missiles with a value of 225 million USD at no cost to ECF as incentive to accept our offer. Aster out.

[QUOTE=Emperor Brudenell]Admiral : If that be the case, keep all craft in the area grounded. As for The East Coast Federation, you have our warning....take heed to it.QUOTE]

incomming transmission:

What???

You propose to shut down the largest space port on Earth because you suspect ECF for some imagined crime?

I don't believe you!!! You are trying to dictate sovereign rights of a nation that has nothing to do with your technology, nor would I need it. If I appeared in your system and ordered you to shut down your spaceports, you would laugh at me. I don't think a nation with only 6 million citizens should be ordering ports to be closed.

ooc:he meant till they leave, which he has. And the tech quarrely was with ECF or whatever

OOC: The 10 RL day wait for my ships is due the fact I'm going on a vacation on the 23rd and not back till the 31st and I may not have access to a computer while I'm away.

IC:
Aster to ECF: I have just received word that Union Strikes are responsible for the long delay in fighter manufacturing. Rest assured that these Union Strikes could be settled quickly if you require your units in under 1 NS year for only a small increase in price rather than hiring short-term workers as was our previous plan. Aster out.

To: East Coast Federation
From: Balrogga Empire
Re: Contract Bidding


We have confidence you will choose the right fighter for your forces. If you choose one of the other bidders, we will hold the price we quoted for you if you wish to order them. We have the confidence you will like our fighters better because of the superb handling via the Omni-Directional VTOL, multi-atmospheric capabilities, the bio-enhanced armor, and the ability to run the entire craft on Neuronics. The pilot would have his hands free to do other required tasks while operating the ship through the Neuro implant. This also will make targeting more accurate because there would be no delay in firing, unlike the manual systems.


Please try all the other fighters first, and then try ours.

ooc:he meant till they leave, which he has. And the tech quarrely was with ECF or whatever


I apologize. It sounded like he wanted all traffic grounded until further notice.

In future posts, please remember to include those small facts.

Aster to East Coast Federation: We have been reviewing the specs on Balrogga's fighter bid and have noticed several points we wish to bring to your attention.

1) The AS-5 Proteus' claims an omni-directional VTOL system. Excellent for atmospheric quick launch operations, but effectively useless in the zero-g environment of space. A takeoff/landing system has no use for space maneuverability, or atmospheric maneuverability either for that matter. And it would be unnecessary for your fleet carrier operations.

2) The XASF-12 is an Aerospace fighter, and has atmospheric capabilities as does the AS-5 Proteus.

3) The AS-5 Proteus's "bio-enhanced" armor means that it most likely incorporates a large amount or organic molecules into it. Rather than being strength this is in fact a weakness as organics are inferior to advanced alloys. They have a much lower combustion temperature and will therefore be easier to destroy and have less resistance to physical impact. Even Chitin won't stop an armor piercing round. The TUC quasi-ceramic alloy of the XASF-12 does not suffer from those flaws.

4)Neuronic links to control the AS-5 make it more expensive to maintain and train pilots. They must have the link to control the ship and makes it harder to train new pilots. The XASF-12 has a standard fly-by-wire joystick for control and a full Helmet-Up Display. It is capable of being flown by anyone with a minimum of training. Computer assisted tracking and targeting also increase the likelihood of hitting your target, improving accuracy.

Aster out.

Craft : SSD "Executor II" Hyperspacing into Area, at 9km

Admiral : East Coast Federation you are using Imperial Technology, This is unacceptable. We Demand Compensation...

New Craft : 5x TIE Fighter at 9km
New Craft : Shuttle "Diplomat" at 9km

ooc:the SSD doesn't have room to fit 500 fighters btw
OOC:Oh sorry I couldn't find a site that said how many it could hold.
But I'm taking 500 Anyway for use when some get blown up.
And it's not SW tech. I merely used the desing of the hull. The ECF John Kerry is going to use ST WarpCores and Weapons. Albit ultra souped of versions of them.There is no actual SW tech in it.
My fleet is much larger and more advanced than yours.
So Don't even try it.
BTW: I use suoped up Trek Ships.

OOC: I use trek tech but i really need a big capital ship.

Does anyone have anything well faster?
Our Capital ships can almost reach those speeds. Up to 1/2 of light speed at maximum impulse.
Emperor Brudenell are you ok?
Whats your beef with us?
We don't use HyperSpace we use WarpDrive
We don't use Turbo Lasers we Use Phasers
We dont use Ion Beams we use Transpashic Torpedo's
We don't use Ion Engines we use Impulse drive.

In responce to Xessmithia's claims.

We have noticed there are claims that our fighters are lacking in their design.

The disputed remarks will be answered below.

Aster to East Coast Federation: We have been reviewing the specs on Balrogga's fighter bid and have noticed several points we wish to bring to your attention.

1) The AS-5 Proteus' claims an omni-directional VTOL system. Excellent for atmospheric quick launch operations, but effectively useless in the zero-g environment of space. A takeoff/landing system has no use for space maneuverability, or atmospheric maneuverability either for that matter. And it would be unnecessary for your fleet carrier operations.

The thrust vectors are omni directional and it has VTOL take off capabilities. Please review the photos that accompanied the origional offer. The fighter craft is capable of moving in any direction at the pilots whim. This is useful for dodging incomming attacts. This is represented by the Class A Agility rating. The standard fighter craft is rated a Class C on this scale because it can only fly in a line. It's the difference between a humming bird and a sparrow.

2) The XASF-12 is an Aerospace fighter, and has atmospheric capabilities as does the AS-5 Proteus.

Again, please review the photos that accompanied the origional offer. You will notice there is an underwater shot. Yes, the fighter craft is able to operate in any just about any medium. Another useful option in dogfights around planets.

3) The AS-5 Proteus's "bio-enhanced" armor means that it most likely incorporates a large amount or organic molecules into it. Rather than being strength this is in fact a weakness as organics are inferior to advanced alloys. They have a much lower combustion temperature and will therefore be easier to destroy and have less resistance to physical impact. Even Chitin won't stop an armor piercing round. The TUC quasi-ceramic alloy of the XASF-12 does not suffer from those flaws.

The meaning of this claim is we have applied an organic steel compound that has reflective properties to the standard alloy armor. This means energy attacks are refracted or reflected off the fighter. The bio-organic abilities of the compound allows it to regenerate damage to the coating. Please notice I said it would only regenerate the organic steel compound. The compounds feeds off UV radiation, which there is plenty of in just about any solar system. The instalation of UV lights will also do the trick.

4)Neuronic links to control the AS-5 make it more expensive to maintain and train pilots. They must have the link to control the ship and makes it harder to train new pilots. The XASF-12 has a standard fly-by-wire joystick for control and a full Helmet-Up Display. It is capable of being flown by anyone with a minimum of training. Computer assisted tracking and targeting also increase the likelihood of hitting your target, improving accuracy.

The standard Neurolink all my citizens and military use are fully compatable. It is about a 10 minute procedure to implant the device and to go through the training of the operation of the implant. There are military grade implants available. Whatever implant you choose, they will be provided as part of the cost of the fighters. I will allow for 5 implants for each fighter, to allow for pilot rotation, unless you have a broader rotation. If that is the case, the rest will also be provided.

After implantation most pilots will be able to expertly fly the fighters with about a day's training. All tracking and other data are fed directly to the mind via the implant. By directing their thoughts, the pilots are able to set a targeting grid over their "minds eye" and fire the weapons with a thought.

This system has worked flawlessly for decades in the empire. I have confidence you will find the same results.

If you have any other questions, please ask.

My Wingmen are creeped out to a huge extent by the Implants.
Plus it's weapons are lacking. The competing model has more powerful weapons.

Aster to ECF: Your order has been confirmed. Our internal strikes have been settled and your order of 450 XASF-12's will be completed in 225 NS days(approx 16 hours RL). Payment of 5,400,000,000 USD due on delivery of 450 XASF-12 and 3000 Preserver Type Ic Kinetic missiles.

Aster to Balrogga:

Engines:
4 AS-23 Multi-Reactionary Drives
Omni-Directional VTOL

With the set-up of your spec sheet the VTOL is listed as Omni-directional, not your drives. And multi-reactionary refers to mulitiple reactants or multiple reaction thrusters, not necessarily thrust-vectoring.

superb handling via the Omni-Directional VTOL

Again you claim the VTOL is omni-directional, not your drives. My original statement is thus justified given the evidence. As for the pictures, the shape of the craft and position of the thrusters is consistent with VTOL capapilities regardless of ship orientation, therefore is omni-directional.

multi-atmospheric capabilities
Again, please review the photos that accompanied the origional offer. You will notice there is an underwater shot. Yes, the fighter craft is able to operate in any just about any medium. Another useful option in dogfights around planets.

My mistake. Although I don't see how being able to function underwater would be bemeficial and the technical aspects of designing a space/atmo/underwater vehicle are daunting and would result in a more expensive craft.

The meaning of this claim is we have applied an organic steel compound that has reflective properties to the standard alloy armor. This means energy attacks are refracted or reflected off the fighter. The bio-organic abilities of the compound allows it to regenerate damage to the coating. Please notice I said it would only regenerate the organic steel compound.

That was not apparent given the data you provided, it is again my mistake.

The standard Neurolink all my citizens and military use are fully compatable. It is about a 10 minute procedure to implant the device and to go through the training of the operation of the implant. There are military grade implants available. Whatever implant you choose, they will be provided as part of the cost of the fighters. I will allow for 5 implants for each fighter, to allow for pilot rotation, unless you have a broader rotation. If that is the case, the rest will also be provided.

After implantation most pilots will be able to expertly fly the fighters with about a day's training. All tracking and other data are fed directly to the mind via the implant. By directing their thoughts, the pilots are able to set a targeting grid over their "minds eye" and fire the weapons with a thought.


Multiple implants for each fighter is an effective solution to the rotation problem. However I find the 10 minute implant procedure to be highly unrealistic. Given the complexities of the human brain and the need to link the implant to the required areas of motor control and others I would expect the implant to take at least an hour, most likely more. And as for a day's training, I an accept that they could fly the vehicle after a day's training, but they'd be bumbling recruits still, not experts.

Aster out.

*Hands over PADD*
Be there When the fighters are done.
Wait 16 hours. Then bring your sensors offline and ECF StarShips will guide you to the SpaceDock where you can unload your fighters and configure them to work with our ship.
Payment will be sent when that is complete.

Aster to ECF: Acknowledged.

*13 starburst wormholes opened and from each emerged a 75meter long fighter - well they could be called fighters where it not for the rust, stains and scorch marks scouring their hulls. Under some of the scorch marks a hazardous warning sign for nuclear materials could just be made out.
Mounted under the nose of each of the fighters was a single heavy duty plasma cannon and slung under each wing where two (4 per fighter) chain linked railcannons. (8 barrel mini gun style rail guns basically spinning a new round into place rather than a new barrel in order to increase the rate of fire the rail guns are capable of.)
The ships also had a faint blue shimmer the only neat looking part of the vessels - their sheilding was apparently still very functional.
The lead fighter - originally marked out but now unrecognisable - opend a comms channel.*

open comms:
Er... has any one seen some imp vessels come though here recently? we have been tracking them for a while but lost them when our starbust generators went down after an ion storm hit us... any one able to point us in the right direction please?
*the comms crackled off and the ships floated in high orbit like unwanted flys around a dinner table.*

Aster to fighters: There were some Imperial vessels here not too long ago. They mentioned something about a colony before they jumped out. We weren't paying attention to their course. Hope I've been of help.

Aster to ECF: We have not yet been able to tranlate the coordinates of your starbase into our system, please re-transmit via telegram.

There's a brlilliant flash of light in system, when it fades there a 5 ships in it's place. They power up their thrusters and head towards the specified location. Moving slowly and ungracefully, the ships which are laden with several cargo pods each take some time to reach it.

"Hmm, this looks like the spot." Said the captain of the lead ship, a mister Ed Berning. Hey keyed the transmit button on his console, "To the, uh let me think, East Coast Federation I'm here to deliver your 450 fighters and those missiles. I'll be here waiting till show me where to go."

To: ECF
From: Balroga Empire
Re: contract negotiations

Even though we did not get the contract, we would like to show our good sportsmanship by offering you 10 Proteus Fighters. We will also preform the implants upon the pilots you choose for these craft.

You can send the pilots to the Imperial Space Tower, Sol to recieve the implants and the ships.

There will be no charge for the ships or service. This is completely a good-will gesture.

His Imperial Majesty
Nhur-Galladu

I am sorry. But all of our wingman refuse to be implanted.
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At Xessmithia: 4 ECF Ships will be with you by tomarrow. Once they have arrived take your sensors and engines offline. The 4 ships will cover your ship with there warp feilds and take you to the build site. I will contact you over TG.

If you change your mind feel free to contact us in the future.

Berning to ECF: We'll be waiting. As soon as we read your ships we'll shut our stuff down.

Aster to Balrogga: We commend you on putting up a good fight for this contract. I hope our relations will not suffer due this competition.

Our FlagShip has been completed ahead of shecdual(SP)
Power your ships. The FlagShip will stop right next to you enroute to CoreWorlds.
http://www.merzo.net/images/10mppSWSuperStarDestroyer.gif it should look like that.
Simply fly the Fighters into the hanger bay and part them in any random Deck.
Try to keep it orginized.
Payment is on the way.

To:Aster
Form: Balrogga
Re: relations

The contract bidding was just that. We both believed we had the better fighter. You were able to convince ECF yours were better. That's all.

I also look forward to cooperative efforts between our nations in the future.

I was going to suggest we both donate a ship to ECF for their pilots to test against each other but he already made his decision known.

Oh, well.


OOC:

I still think I can fly circles around you but that is for another Thread.

Berning looked out the bridge viewer at the massive dagger shaped vessel floating before his eyes. His transport flight of 5 ships a mere speck against it. He opens the com line to the ship, " We have some fighters and missiles to deliver to you folks. We don't have the manpower to fly 'em all in there so how's about we just drop of our cargo pods in your massive hangar and you can tractor them in. They'll fit no problem on something that size."

With that done the freighters moved into the cavernous hanger bay and released their cargo pods at the closest open hangar deck.

Aster to Balrogga: I too look forward to further relations between our nations.

OOC: Maybe they could, we'll have to wait and see.

Aster to ECF: We have delivered your fighters. We expect confirmation of payment of 5.4 billion USD soon. It's been a pleasure dealing with you. Aster out.

The fighters scanned the area and picked up a ion signiture left by the imperial vessel.
lead:"damn it they have headed back to the colony, move out!"
all pilots:"roger"
Lead:"Starburst now!"

They where gone dissapearing into a swirling mass of blue vapour that drifted through space before dissipating.

money has been wired!
Here have an XBOX with a demo of HALO 2 :P