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Sevaris calls for a conference to end the CM dispute

Sevaris
21-08-2004, 01:03
It would appear that the world is now at the brink of war. We hereby call for a conference involving all powers involved in the CM dispute- location negotiable. We can't afford to let our world be destroyed. Let's try to work it out like gentlemen.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:08
I've made my demands known. I want 400 billion dollars and an apology. His shooting our satellites cost lives! GPS guided artillery on training missions ended up killing over half a dozen friendlies.

Ooc: Right now, I'm just awaiting NATO to approve my war proposal. If they do, it's war. Unless AN pays and apologizes.
Sevaris
21-08-2004, 01:09
OOC: CM, it's not like you to wait for official approval for anything. I'm rather surprised.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 01:09
Axis Nova will attend the conference as a courtesy to the nation of Sevaris, but we wish to make it clear that no reparations or concessions of any sort will be forthcoming to Communist Mississippi.

OOC edit: CM, how exactly would you invade me, anyways? O.o

Axis Nova
Voderlund
21-08-2004, 01:12
Well, I'll send an ambassador, however, I think that CM wants approval just in case some other unfriendly nations decide to jump him while he's fighting AN. (DPUO,Me,Cerebrus....)
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:16
OOC edit: CM, how exactly would you invade me, anyways? O.o


Ooc: Did you ever wonder why I have over 50 divisions that can be dropped from planes and helicopters? And those are the just the airborne Federal units. Not even the Commonwealth Units and the Mercenaries. I can probably get 1.5 million paratroopers and airmobile helicopter transported soldiers into your nation.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 01:17
Ooc: Did you ever wonder why I have over 50 divisions that can be dropped from planes and helicopters? And those are the just the airborne Federal units. Not even the Commonwealth Units and the Mercenaries. I can probably get 1.5 million paratroopers and airmobile helicopter transported soldiers into your nation.

OOC: Kindly show me the planes and helicopters that can carry so many troops 2000 kilometers or more without refueling.

Axis Nova
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:20
OOC: Kindly show me the planes and helicopters that can carry so many troops 2000 kilometers or more without refueling.

Axis Nova


Aerial refuel. :D Also C-130s, of which I have thousands. Also C-17s, of which I have thousands. Each Paratrooper division has approximately 500 C-130s.


http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-17.htm

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-130.htm
Sdaeriji
21-08-2004, 01:22
ooc: Why would he have to fly 2000 km without refueling?
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 01:23
OOC: Where are the tankers going to stage from? The 2000 kilometers is just from the coast of the Imperial Graveyard to Axis Nova's border, and the continent is quite far from others.

I believe Sileetris said it best when he said that Axis Nova is famed for it's inaccessibility.

Axis Nova
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:23
OOC: Where are the tankers going to stage from? The 2000 kilometers is just from the coast of the Imperial Graveyard to Axis Nova's border, and the continent is quite far from others.

I believe Sileetris said it best when he said that Axis Nova is famed for it's inaccessibility.

Axis Nova

Ooc: Can 10,000 peacekeeper missiles with 10 warheads each manage to access you?
DontPissUsOff
21-08-2004, 01:24
Naval Command is currently debating sending in a CVBG or two to ensure that neither side can undertake offensive actions.
DontPissUsOff
21-08-2004, 01:25
Ah...now who's waving nukes about eh? Use 'em and lose 'em.
Sdaeriji
21-08-2004, 01:26
OOC: Where are the tankers going to stage from? The 2000 kilometers is just from the coast of the Imperial Graveyard to Axis Nova's border, and the continent is quite far from others.

I believe Sileetris said it best when he said that Axis Nova is famed for it's inaccessibility.

Axis Nova

ooc: You don't have any neighbors?
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:26
Ah...now who's waving nukes about eh? Use 'em and lose 'em.


OOC! OOC! It's just OOC talk. I was seriously asking him OOC if he can withstand such assaults. I'm curious... Hey you've already used nukes, you have no room to talk.
DontPissUsOff
21-08-2004, 01:28
I have indeed, whcih means I may well decide to use them again if I am pushed. Anyway, acknowledged as OOC, Sorry man.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 01:29
OOC: I would point out that launching an all-out nuclear assault against me for just shooting down some expensive toys would be seriously overreacting. And no, I don't have any neighbours.

As for how good our SDI network is... that would be telling. :p

Axis Nova
Mekanta
21-08-2004, 01:31
-OOC-
Can you take a hit from essentially a 700 meter diameter asteroid with enough force to level a city?

Multiple hits of that magnitude?
Gurian
21-08-2004, 01:41
OOC: Stop these inane displays of strength. With a Frightening economy and roughly 3.1 billion people, Gurian can wipe you all off the map. =p

IC: The Benevolent Dictatorship of Gurian will be sending a representative to the conference.

In the meantime, Dictator Anderson has officially declared that should any sort of confrontation erupt, Gurian will side against the aggressor. This policy will continue to remain in effect, even if a war is approved by NATO, the UN, or any other similar organizations. It is felt that both sides must first come to a conference and talk things out before engaging in a war.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
21-08-2004, 01:42
His Majesty, Emperor Erik I, is willing to send an envoy to the conference. We wish to know the location.
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:44
Ic: "Mississippi has done everything to maintain and secure peace. We have sacked popular governors in Africa due to their secret diverting of funds intended to help native peoples. We have instituted systems to make sure all the races are separate but equal. We have made concerted efforts to improve race relations in Egpyt and Western Sahara. We have abandoned programs and plans to build controversial factories. We have done everything that is within our power to maintain peace. But we will not back down in the face of direct attacks against us. We demand Axis Nova pay reparations for their wanton destruction of CM property. We can only be pushed so far." Paul Stahlecker.

IC: "You will pay restitution for your aggression and unjustified destruction of CM property. The total sum comes to 400 billion dollars. You will also issue an official apology for your dastardly attack against CM property. If you agree, all movements to war will be abandonded and CM will withdraw her request from the NATO council. If you refuse, and CM's request from NATO is approved, then war will be declared immediately upon CM receival of the NATO approval." Paul Stahlecker.
Sdaeriji
21-08-2004, 01:45
OOC: Stop these inane displays of strength. With a Frightening economy and roughly 3.1 billion people, Gurian can wipe you all off the map. =p


ooc: Hardly. Don't flatter yourself.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
21-08-2004, 01:48
OOC: Stop these inane displays of strength. With a Frightening economy and roughly 3.1 billion people, Gurian can wipe you all off the map. =p

IC: The Benevolent Dictatorship of Gurian will be sending a representative to the conference.

In the meantime, Dictator Anderson has officially declared that should any sort of confrontation erupt, Gurian will side against the aggressor. This policy will continue to remain in effect, even if a war is approved by NATO, the UN, or any other similar organizations. It is felt that both sides must first come to a conference and talk things out before engaging in a war.

ooc: My empire (puppets and all) total 3.862 billion in population.
The God Falltothzu
21-08-2004, 01:48
The God Falltothzu shall send an ambassador to act as a proxy at such a conference.
Sdaeriji
21-08-2004, 01:49
ooc: My empire (puppets and all) total 3.862 billion in population.

ooc: Heck, me and my empire (puppets) total somewhere in the 7 billion range.
Mekanta
21-08-2004, 01:49
OOC: Stop these inane displays of strength. With a Frightening economy and roughly 3.1 billion people, Gurian can wipe you all off the map. =p

-OOC-
Sure, you could wipe out Mekanta's Underpact (Modern) assets, but the Overpact (Future) base, the Terra Cluster, will take a hell of a lot of effort. And unless the Terra Cluster is destroyed, the Underpact assets will just be re-established.

And even IF you fire enough nukes to break the barriers and eradicate the Hives, the Grand Armada will just rebuild them and you'll be back at square one minus your nukes!

In short, I'm not saying "bring it" but... "Good friggin' luck."


Of course, taking out the Underpact stuff will end Mekanta's offensives on Earth, so the rest of the stuff is kind of a moot point really. Just proving you wrong on the "wipe you out" thing.
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 01:50
CM will attend but we will not settle for anything less than our demands of an apology and financial reparations being paid. We can negotiate the exact amount of money though.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 04:57
Axis Nova was payed 200 billion and a piece of tech we have sought for a while for our contract in knocking down your sats.

We may be willing to consider forking over the 200 billion and a promise not to take future contracts against you, your allies or your assets in return for a nonaggression pact against Axis Nova and a promise to keep any satellites of you or your allies from overflying our territory (the tech we recieved was more important to us than the money).

However, no apology will be forthcoming.

Axis Nova
Communist Mississippi
21-08-2004, 05:02
Axis Nova was payed 200 billion and a piece of tech we have sought for a while for our contract in knocking down your sats.

We may be willing to consider forking over the 200 billion and a promise not to take future contracts against you, your allies or your assets in return for a nonaggression pact against Axis Nova and a promise to keep any satellites of you or your allies from overflying our territory (the tech we recieved was more important to us than the money).

However, no apology will be forthcoming.

Axis Nova



TG.
Chellis
21-08-2004, 05:11
The Chellian Foreign minister flips of Gurian, and laughs.

Axis nova, CM could blockade your nation navally, and use carriers with long range aircraft to bomb you. You would run out of materials and starve sooner or later.
Hadula
21-08-2004, 05:12
Axis nova, CM could blockade your nation navally

If I read correctly, Axis Nova is landlocked.
Chellis
21-08-2004, 05:27
OOC: Where are the tankers going to stage from? The 2000 kilometers is just from the coast of the Imperial Graveyard to Axis Nova's border, and the continent is quite far from others.

I believe Sileetris said it best when he said that Axis Nova is famed for it's inaccessibility.

Axis Nova

I believe this shows he is water-locked. He just has no coast line, as he is surrounded by nuclear radiated land and mountains.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 05:35
To be specific... Axis Nova makes it's home in the center of the Imperial Graveyard (the name for the continent on which it is ensconed). The country itself is within an ancient asteroid crater, with tall and impassible mountains all around the edges. These form a natural barrier and of course are heavily fortified (though recently, more with antiaircraft weapons, for obvious reasons). In addition, there is the aforementioned radioactive exclusion zone extending 500 kilometers in every direction from the barrier mountains.

The rest of the continent is inhabited only by terrorists, survivalists, anarchists, marauders, and other such scum-- and they are well enough equipped to make burning them out impossible for us, since they are both funded by outside groups and also help themselves to any tech they find in ancient Imperial depots. Many of the larger groups possess enough firepower (thanks to the futuretech they have recovered) to give even regular military units a good fight.

Edit: Axis Nova itself is quite self-sufficient, at least as far as a defensive war is concerned.

Axis Nova
Mekanta
21-08-2004, 05:41
-OOC-
I'd advise you to keep Future Tech out of this.

Otherwise, if the terrorists likely to interfere have future tech... what's to stop a talon of Mekanta's Sol Fleet from dropping down and providing some heavy support?

The moment Future Tech becomes applicable through those unaligned, this battle enters my domain. ^_^
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 05:46
-OOC-
I'd advise you to keep Future Tech out of this.

Otherwise, if the terrorists likely to interfere have future tech... what's to stop a talon of Mekanta's Sol Fleet from dropping down and providing some heavy support?

The moment Future Tech becomes applicable through those unaligned, this battle enters my domain. ^_^

Axis Nova itself doesn't use futuretech; only these random scum have it.

I only mentioned them as flavor, and to illustrate the difficulties in reaching AN.

In any case, if you butt in with a huge wank-fleet, it will be ignored.

^_^

Axis Nova
Mekanta
21-08-2004, 05:49
-OOC-
I never mentioned using the fleet against you.

You're modern. I have IC reasons created to keep the Grand Armada from being used except in certain conditions. Since you haven't attacked the Grand Armada, they're bound by The Pact.

The most that would be done would be sterilizing the area outside of the radiation zone and establishing a forward base. Same thing that would be done with the Underpact (Modern) forces, just a lot messier and quicker.

Keep in mind, this is only if Future Tech weapons are used. Everything is retaliatory.
Axis Nova
21-08-2004, 06:05
-OOC-

Mekanta, you're a company or something, right? Why don't I just pay you to either stay neutral or blockade the coast of the Imperial Graveyard and make sure nothing gets in -or- out. That keeps me bottled up and it keeps me from wasting ammo shooting apart whatever CM tries to send my way.

Axis Nova
Mekanta
21-08-2004, 06:09
-OOC-
Empire, actually. One that has an extreme racism and believed superiority over humans.

But... Mekanta CAN be bribed. Technology is just about the only way. Give them open clearance to sweep the radiation zone and the graveyard, and they'll leave you alone if there's anything of worth there.