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In light of recent threats. The ECF has decided to move away from our standard tech. In favor of far more powerful technologies.
With
1 WarpCore and 4 QC Reactors this new ship is the pinnicale of ECF tech. It can mantain Warp 9.993 for 30 Hours.
The Shields are capable of taking up to 500 Gigatons of Damage Before Overload.
ReCharge Rate is 10% every 10 seconds. They are also capable of defelecting large objects.
The new Phaser Strips each are capable of 3.1 Gigaton shots. And there are 23 of them.
There are also 12 TransPhasic Torpedo Lunchers.(SP)
The entire EPS grid and main power relays are surronded by Liquid Nitrogen and integritiy fields.
As all ECF ships are. The TITAN Class is fast and maneuverable and is capable of dodging unguided weapons fire.
We have eneterd mass production. Expect 300 Ships to be done by the end of the year. Bringing our number up to 980 Ships. Many Older classes have been retired. Such as half our galaxy fleet and all of our old Excel Class.
Do Any nations have a comment on this?
The new QC reactor is the only power source we could think of that can meet the power needs for a ship like this. AKA the Quantum Converter Simply put, a QC works by injecting highly unstable elements in the QC Chamber (or any derivative), then the QC Chamber breaks the materials down into Sub-Atomic components and in the process spreads them across multiple dimensions (despite 20 years of research, the exact sciences are still foggy) in multiple phases (hence the term "Phasic") and exploded by the trip. When they are ejected from the other end, they are strings of pure energy, and, depending on the initial element, can produce energies far superior to anything short of the Big Bang. ( thanks trekkie ! )


Dimensions: Length : 1241 m
Beam : 770 m
Height : 545 m
Decks : 64

Are you going by 1 Ns year = 1 rl day?

Oh my bad. I was lazy and copyed from my fourms.
There already in space.

In light of recent threats. The ECF has decided to move away from our standard tech. In favor of far more powerful technologies.
With
1 WarpCore and 4 QC Reactors this new ship is the pinnicale of ECF tech. It can mantain Warp 9.993 for 30 Hours.
The Shields are capable of taking up to 500 Gigatons of Damage Before Overload.
ReCharge Rate is 10% every 10 seconds. They are also capable of defelecting large objects.
The new Phaser Strips each are capable of 3.1 Gigaton shots. And there are 23 of them.
There are also 12 TransPhasic Torpedo Lunchers.(SP)
The entire EPS grid and main power relays are surronded by Liquid Nitrogen and integritiy fields.
As all ECF ships are. The TITAN Class is fast and maneuverable and is capable of dodging unguided weapons fire.
We have eneterd mass production. Expect 300 Ships to be done by the end of the year. Bringing our number up to 980 Ships. Many Older classes have been retired. Such as half our galaxy fleet and all of our old Excel Class.
Do Any nations have a comment on this?
The new QC reactor is the only power source we could think of that can meet the power needs for a ship like this. AKA the Quantum Converter Simply put, a QC works by injecting highly unstable elements in the QC Chamber (or any derivative), then the QC Chamber breaks the materials down into Sub-Atomic components and in the process spreads them across multiple dimensions (despite 20 years of research, the exact sciences are still foggy) in multiple phases (hence the term "Phasic") and exploded by the trip. When they are ejected from the other end, they are strings of pure energy, and, depending on the initial element, can produce energies far superior to anything short of the Big Bang. ( thanks trekkie ! )


Dimensions: Length : 1241 m
Beam : 770 m
Height : 545 m
Decks : 64

Frankly, this ship looks like the product of some heavy wank, and it's certainly godmoding to have as many of these ships as you claim to. Never mind that you haven't RPed the development of these weapons...

I also fail to see how a ship that large can dodge unguided weapons fire.

Suffice it to say that I must ignore this ship until it's numbers and stats are brought more under control.

(Twenty one multi-gigaton phaser strips? I rest my case...)

Edit: This is obviously an ego boosting ship, to try and beat Kanuckistan's export ships. The problem there is that Kanuckistan is a huge and extremely rich/old/powerful space nation, where as you are not.

It's all very possible. And there are ships far more powerful than the TITAN.
Its development has been RPed on the USF boards.
And I messed up when I did the numbers.
As of now we only have 35 of these. Expect to see 300 in the next 8 NS years.

It's all very possible. And there are ships far more powerful than the TITAN.
Its development has been RPed on the USF boards.
And I messed up when I did the numbers.
As of now we only have 35 of these. Expect to see 300 in the next 8 NS years.

That's a little better. Can you provide a link to the USF boards, or copy-paste the development onto the NS ones?

This ship has changed many times over the years but it ends up like this.
http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?showtopic=14 1ST TITAN PROTOTYPE
http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?showtopic=13 - APPROVAL OF TITAN CLASS
http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?showtopic=18 DEVELOPMENT OF NEW POWER SYSTEMS AND MULTI GIGATON PHASERS

Yeah so the number as of now is 35.

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Edit: This is obviously an ego boosting ship, to try and beat Kanuckistan's export ships. The problem there is that Kanuckistan is a huge and extremely rich/old/powerful space nation, where as you are not.[/QUOTE]
OOC: Nah I've wanted better phasers for a long time.
And I have no intintion of trying to beat his ships and that is next to impossible.
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I constaly find myself being out gunned so I decided to build a far more powerful ship.
And yes it is a ego boosting ship but I could really not give a shit about Kanuckistan :P

Of course, seeing as how non USF members can't see those threads, you may have to just transplant them over to NS.

OOC: stupid me I should have remeberd that I made it so non members can't see it. I was very busy when I wrote there and the 1st might be very badly spelled.
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Secert: To USF Nations, DO NOT TELL ANYONE

Because of growing tenshions between humans and the Shivians and the rececent joining of the ECF to an alliance that fights them. Our Current StarFleet is capable of defending ourselevs.
But most of our ships cannot combat them.
Only The Sovergein(SP),Akira and Promtheous(SP) are capable of mounting any kind of offenseive.
So StarFleet is annoucing the start of the TITAN Class StarShip. Plans are starting to get laid down.

ANYTHING you can tell us about shivan ships will be VERY helpful in the desing process.
Weapons,Speed,Size

Current Detalis are still secret.
But Expect it to be 500 Meters Long and capable of warp 9.933.
That Protoype ended up being cancelled

2nd
This is the 1st Prototype of our new TITAN Class.
1st Specs Revelead to the USF
20 terajoule rated phasers
3 WarpCores
18 Q torp lunchers, Capable of a 5 spread busrt.
5 Transpashic Torp Lunchers with 5 spread Burst.

Not even close being done yet.

What do you think so far

She is currentlly in shakedown testing and is only capable of warp 5.
Were not done working out the bugs on the warp engines yet.
We Have still not broken the Warp 5 Barrier.
3 Warp Cores is giving us HUGE problems.
However we are quite close to over comming them.
The new phasers are far more powerful than any phaser ever seen.
This ship it built for raw power.
Next Spec Declassified,
High Powered Sheilds and TransWarp.
TransWarp was cancelled

3. The ECF allying with an currently secert nation is going to develop the 3 gigaton Phaser Array!
ECF Territory is CLOSED for the next 4 NS Years.
These will be built to counter very powerful warhips.
We are employing brand new tech.

Please give us any ideas you might think of.
But we could do it on our own.
The ECF StarFleet will not be doing any offensive movements for the next 3 NS years!

ECF Engineering Team:
WarpCore Expert-Sean Willing
Emitter Desinger- Chivey
All Other details are secert on this side
Cooling Expert: Captain Wells
UnKnown Nation:
R&D Dr. J. Wells

We will tell you more about the team and equitment when we can!

So I'll give you a rundown on what is Happening.
We will not disclose the name of the other nation to protect them
We are not using normal warp cores for this as they don't have the kind of power I need.
The 1st ProtoType will be mounted on a akria. And how it works and basic blueprints will be displaye to prove that it actually works.
The TITAN as you know of it is gone expect for the hull.
And when the new TITAN is done it will have 12 arrarys oh these phasers.
It will have subspace defenses if Germanische Zustande sends it to us.
Of crouse no one gets info until it's fully working and proven in real space use such as on a bunch of astroids. As we are not going to give away info on an unfished and possibly dangours product until we make sure it is safe.
No one gets in or out of ECF Territory for the next 4(NS) Years so move all your ships out of ECF territory before it is in effect tomarrow.
We will not be using Matter/Antimatter reactors for this project, Though one will be used to power the ships sheild and life support systems.
12 was then increased to 20

So I'll give you a rundown on what is Happening.
We will not disclose the name of the other nation to protect them
We are not using normal warp cores for this as they don't have the kind of power I need.
The 1st ProtoType will be mounted on a akria. And how it works and basic blueprints will be displaye to prove that it actually works.
The TITAN as you know of it is gone expect for the hull.
And when the new TITAN is done it will have 12 arrarys oh these phasers.
It will have subspace defenses if Germanische Zustande sends it to us.
Of crouse no one gets info until it's fully working and proven in real space use such as on a bunch of astroids. As we are not going to give away info on an unfished and possibly dangours product until we make sure it is safe.
No one gets in or out of ECF Territory for the next 4(NS) Years so move all your ships out of ECF territory before it is in effect tomarrow.
We will not be using Matter/Antimatter reactors for this project, Though one will be used to power the ships sheild and life support systems.
As posted an Akria was used for the prototypes of the Phaser Systems and orginal QC reactor

The Prototype Phaser on an Akria class starship has been fired.
And it annilated a small moon!
Germanische Zustande:Very good! The UFGZ Congratulates you! Just remember, you may want to consider arming your vessels with other weapons than phasers and torpedoes...
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Thats sort of all we have.
And our new sheild grid is over 50 time more powerful than anything seen on an ECF ship.
Unless you want to donate somthing better in exhange for the phaser plans.

With the succes of our new weapon. The TITAN Class is entering mass production.
http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communicati...post&id=1326423
With
1 WarpCore and 4 QC Reactors this new ship is the pinnicale of ECF tech. It can mantain Warp 9.993 for 30 Hours.
The Shields are capable of taking up to 500 Gigatons of Damage Before Overload.
ReCharge Rate is 10% every 10 seconds. They are also capable of defelecting large objects.
The new Phaser Strips each are capable of 3.1 Gigaton shots. And there are 23 of them.
There are also 12 TransPhasic Torpedo Lunchers.(SP)
The entire EPS grid and main power relays are surronded by Liquid Nitrogen and integritiy fields.
As all ECF ships are. The TITAN Class is fast and maneuverable and is capable of dodging unguided weapons fire.
We have eneterd mass production. Expect 35 Ships to be done by the end of the year. Bringing our number up to 980 Ships. Many Older classes have been retired. Such as half our galaxy fleet and all of our old Excel Class.
Do Any nations have a comment on this?

I was thinking the same thing. I'll probably add another QC reactor. but I still need a WarpCore for WarpDrive.
I know it's in joules though I have no idea how many joules a 3 gigaton beam would ne.
I'll have to figure that out. And one more QC reactor should be enough. Of crouse I could add 2 more QC Reactors and incorperate a small warpcore for warp drive which I will probably do.
Germanische Zustande: Sounds good to me....
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I just hope people don't get scared when they read such high power rating from such a small ship.

Dimensions: Length : 1241 m
Beam : 770 m
Height : 545 m
Decks : 64
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Happy?

Oh yeah these ships are also eqipped with Nanites for rapid Repair. Provided by WarHaven

I'm more intrested in how you got by the engineering problems relating to making phasers fire in gigaton range. Especially strip phasers, which by their nature are less powerful than turreted phasers or especially spinal mounted phaser weapons.

I also want to know how you can fit multiple particle accelerators capable of putting out gigatons of damage onto a ship that's only a thousand meters long.

OOC:
Ya know, it does really look like you basicly tried to one-up my Zenith-class Battlecruiser export. Yer Titan's even the same size, just about.

For the courious, the thread in question is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346559&page=1&pp=15).

A few excerpts;

OOC: I feel stupid I was using an entireley different rating system!
Of crouse it would be no problem to build phasers just as powerful or more powerful! And expect the ECF to build phasers to match and even surpass your lasers!



OOC: I just want to build phasers that can top your main armerment.


So, saying that you "could really not give a shit about Kanuckistan" ain't exactly accurate, eh?

And yeah, 23x 3.1 gigaton strip phasers per ship? What ship has 23 strip phasers anyway?

Also, 300 in 8 NS years is a little high, especially if you go by RL day=NS year, and given that these things are likly your equivilent to a dreadnaught.

I'm more intrested in how you got by the engineering problems relating to making phasers fire in gigaton range. Especially strip phasers, which by their nature are less powerful than turreted phasers or especially spinal mounted phaser weapons.

I also want to know how you can fit multiple particle accelerators capable of putting out gigatons of damage onto a ship that's only a thousand meters long.
I explained how I got enough power to power the weapons. The QC core can provide more than enough power.
And the power system housing are filled with Liquid Nitrogen and are Surrounded by Structural Integrity feilds. And I am not going to break it down to physics as I really dont want to take the time.
Plus there are Weapons far more powerful than a 3.1gigaton Phaser.
I'll move it down to 14 if that makes you happy. and yes alot of Non Cannon Trek Ships have 23 phaser Strips.
There are still weapons over 10 times more powerful than that on NS. And you keep saying " GOD MOD GOD MOD" Shut up.
I don't see anything god modish about this ship. It's Low-MidRange at best.


And sure maybe I said I would. But I was already going to anyway. I don't give a shit what you think.
I don't care if it's about the same size. It's what the Ship actually is. If you don't bellive me then go look it up.

What makes it unrealistic is that you combine extremely fast building times with 23 3.1 gigaton phasers, especially if what CF is saying about strip phasers to be weaker than the other variants.

Yes there are many stronger weapons but not many with 23 of them mounted on a meager 1241m ship.

Add to that its very good maneuverability and speed and well.....

<3 the extremely small nation of Shadow Tech

OOC: Sorry for being an asshole I was at the ROTC all day helping set up for the new year........... it's 12 at night..............., This is ment to be a "Super Ship" Theres not going to be very many
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I realize I have overpowered it more than I should have.
new Specs:
14x3.1 Gigaton Phasers.
10 Transpasic Torpedo Lunchers
Maximum Speed is .50C during impluse power.
Sheilds Capable of taking 500 Gigatons of Damage before overload and finally failure. Can recharge 10% in 30 Seconds
3 QC Reactors ( which can produce as much power as I want) and 1 WarpCore
Entire EPS Grid and fire control systems are covered in a pool of
Liquid Nitrogen to prevent overheating and are Surrounded by Structural Integrity feilds to help them take the abuse.
And Of Crouse Ablative Armor
Sensors have a maximum range of 20 light years.
The Ship is capable of Warp 9.993
This thing has 5 of the same engines used to power the galaxy during impluse flight. That WILL make it fast.
And it doesn't really matter weather it's a turret or strip. As Long as the power can get there.
The ship also has 3 Fusion Reactors for emergancys.
The ship is capable of repairing itself. Nanities were donated by WarHaven just for this project.

It's Pirmary Function is a Super Heavy BattleShip or as a "surpressing fire" Platform during fleet manuvers.



I also realize that a fleet of these ships is not possible unless I decommision a large part of my star fleet. So I will NEVER have any more than 50 of these ships. And Build time for one ship is about 4 years. The ships I have now have already been finished. I realize they just are not practicle. And would be far to expensive.
Though I do plan to replace the fleets 1 TeraJoule Phasers with 20 TeraJoule Models if I ever get enough money.

OOC: I hope that makes everyone Happy. Kuz I'm not changing a god dammed thing.

OOC: I apologize for being a jackass. Maybe it's kuz I've had no sleep but what the hell
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If war looks near we will step up production of these ships

Several days into shakedown curiers. These ships are prone to breakdowns and constant failures. We hope to solve this soon.
However the weapon tests have gone quite well. The QC reactors are putting out more than enough power.

I discussed with ECF his armaments on the USF boards. I do not believe that the power should be measured in "tons", more like terajoules or something...

However, with the technology that the USF has shared with him, (the members) and his large population, I personally believe that such a ship as it stands is not too much of a threat to any of you nations, and I also do not believe that it is a "godmod".

I also think that the 300 number in 8 years is an acceptable number, as long as no other military projects are under way....

We already cancelled 300 and are going for 50.
We plan to upgrade the rest of our fleet with 20 TeraJoule Phasers and new warpcores.

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I've decreased the armerments by almost half. 14x3.1 and it's staying there So you better be happy.
And it's not even a threat to most nations.
It's meant to be a part of the battlefleet.
And help the USF in heavy combat operations.

Yeah, sure... it was originally meant to combat Shivans... but I have heard they have been nuetralized... so, yeah.

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Seems pretty reasonible as of now; my main concern, however, was simply the fact that he massivly scaled up his firepower values in so little time.

I do not believe that the power should be measured in "tons", more like terajoules or something...


Tons represents tons/TNT equivilent, aka the scale used to measure nuclear yeilds. Given the scale of firepower being used, it's a much easier system of measurment to use.

1 gigaton = 4'184'000'000'000'000'000 joules, iirc(assuming 4.184 GJ per ton TNT).

So, assuming irc, that would make his new 3.1 gigaton phasers = 12.9704 exajoules. That's 12,970,400 terajoules.

Big boom, eh?

I did not realize that his phaser arrays were that powerful...

ECF, that is one heck of a sharp-toothed vessel. It seems like it might be a little underpowered though...

I did not realize that his phaser arrays were that powerful...

ECF, that is one heck of a sharp-toothed vessel. It seems like it might be a little underpowered though...

Heh; I'm betting ECF doesn't have a clue that they're that powerful. Most folks claiming this kinda firepower probally don't, either.

Check out my storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346559&page=1&pp=15) if yer interested picking up some ships with this kinda firepower; the new Fell Warden-class Battle Dreadnaught's packing a 4 teraton foreward battery(tho it'll cost you a little over 13 trillion and a week's wait for me to build the thing; costly little bugger).

Selection's presently somewhat limited, but we do take requests; Central Facehuggeria's requests led to the creation of the Fell Warden, actually.

OOC:Holy crap, I had no idea that is was that powerful.
Plus phasers dont produce a "boom"
And as for how I got enough power to run it.
My ferind on AIM was like " here try this"
So thats where I got the idea for the QC reactor. And the beauty of it is. You can produce as much power as you want. Depedning on what you use as fuel.
So I plan to leave it as is. This is one of those ships that you just don't have alot of.
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We plan to retire some of our older capital ships and have no more than 30 TITAN class ships at any one time.

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