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War on TFU

Crazed Marines
20-08-2004, 00:27
This is a continuation of
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6806784#post6806784

"General, should we mobilize our forces now?"
"No, not yet. We shall wait untill their fleets are whittled down. Prepare our first thru fourth fleets for immeadiate invasion. Have them ready for a five minute deployment. Also have the First Tenth divisions of our Space Marines ready for deployment along with the fleet."
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 00:30
KNOW THIS! TFU is a member of the USF, and if he is attacked, we will retaliate in his defense.
United Arcel
20-08-2004, 00:31
If he is attaCKED WE WILL NUKE YOU.
Crazed Marines
20-08-2004, 00:35
Look, All we know is that he attacked and made agressive moves on a 72 mil. country. We're here to protect the weaker country and settle old scores. If you attack me, then you open up a world of hurt like the last time me and the International Mall opened up on you (can you say mass glassing of many TFU homeworlds). Know this, DGNT, Central Facehuggeria, Corpsac, and some others are backing me. That totals to around 6.5 billion strong and counting. Just know that TFU, as an ally, should be left alone on some fights. He's not worth getting annexed over.
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 00:38
TFU is a Member of the USF, and we are bound to aid him in any defesive war.
East Coast Federation
20-08-2004, 00:41
I suggest you back off.
We have over 300 TITAN Class Ships ready. and I have an itch to use them.
CoreWorlds
20-08-2004, 00:53
"Enough is enough." The Emperor growled, as he recieved the report from his aides and tore it apart. "TFU is always ganged up on, and now yet another nation attempts to destroy him. Perhaps the threat of our powerful navy would be enough to deter them."

Know this. We are an ally of The Fedral Union. if you make any aggresive moves against him, we will not hesitate to come to his defense. Mark our words well.
Dontgonearthere
20-08-2004, 00:55
OOC:
Who are all these people I have never heard of? *GASP* could they be...puppets?

IC:
DGNT issues THIS official warning to all those involved:
Since this is (technically) an offensive war by Crazed Marines we are not bound to aid him, BUT, if HE is attacked we will do everything in our power to defend his country.
Any country using weapons of mass destruction will be met with...extreme measures. We have readied a number of Steel Plauge spheres.

OOC2:
What exactly IS a Titan class ship?
It better not be a capitol ship, otherwise your in for...ignoration.
Crazed Marines
20-08-2004, 01:02
OOC: DGNT. this is a defensive war. We are defending another country who cannot do so themselves. I'm also bringing up a declaration of war in the GDA against forums.
Dontgonearthere
20-08-2004, 01:04
OOC:
Yes, but your ATTACKING TFU, not just defending Siesta (Sp?).
Sorry, the other GDA members are free to help you though. Go nuts :)
Crazed Marines
20-08-2004, 01:09
OOC: I'm doing what the USA did in '91 with the Gulf war. Big country invades small country. Little country in distress. Meaner and badder country comes to aid of smaller country with a coalition. Coalition met with resistance. Resistance terminated once all evidence is presented.

I'm at about step 4...
Dontgonearthere
20-08-2004, 01:11
OOC:
Well...Ill play the part of that one country that didnt really get involved but would have if Iraq invaded the US :)
Crazed Marines
20-08-2004, 01:12
OOC: fine by me
Kanuckistan
20-08-2004, 01:18
OOC:
Why are people allied with TFU anyway? Just reading his RPing makes me want to glass him, until I realise that in order to do so I'd be forced to endure page after page of such tripe in order to undertake such a task.
Central Facehuggeria
20-08-2004, 01:18
Big tag. I still don't know if I'll actively participate in this war. I'd rather not butt heads with Coreworlds. He's a good RPer that I wouldn't want to alienate too badly. :D I'll join in to defend Siesatia (sic?)

I won't attack TFU proper unless he uses WMDs on civilian population centers, bombards civilian population centers, or in any other way intentionally harms civilians.

By the way, anyone know why the other thread was closed?
East Coast Federation
20-08-2004, 01:25
OOC:

OOC2:
What exactly IS a Titan class ship?
It better not be a capitol ship, otherwise your in for...ignoration.
Why?
A ton of people have capitol ships.
And this just happens to be the ECF's 1st high powered one.
Kanuckistan
20-08-2004, 01:49
Why?
A ton of people have capitol ships.
And this just happens to be the ECF's 1st high powered one.

OOC:
He's probally reffering to you having over 300 of them.
East Coast Federation
20-08-2004, 01:52
Read the other thread. 300 was a typo.
But 35 is still enough to whoop ass.
I still have my regular fleet.
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 02:06
I'm sorry, but TFU is a member of the USF. By the USF Defensive Pact, the Member Nations of the USF are bound to defend any other Member in any defensive war. The UFGZ is prepared to fight on three fronts if necessary, however, we wish for a peaceful solution.

If a court could be set up, and those who hold greivances against TFU were to present them, and TFU and his allies presented a defense, there would be many fewer casualties.
Dontgonearthere
20-08-2004, 15:02
OOC:
Ok, so theres 35 of them.
How big are they? Whats their armament?
If its a fourty kilometer ship with thosands of lasers and such, your STILL going to be ignored.
Im a bit of a power myself, you know. But if I claimed to have 35 PileDrivers avalible for use in invasions, I would be ignored. I typically claim a total of 16 TOTAL. And some of them belong to other nations, which leaves about two per Galactic sector (1/4 of the Galaxy), plus two extra for the Sol system.
The only reason I can claim that many is that none have ever been destroyed, because I havent been in a serious war, or taken much in the way of losses.
I prefer to take advantage of those in wars ;)

IC:
While you are all perfectly justified in defending yourself, we ask that you end your war with Crazed Marines on his boarders.

Additionaly, we ask Crazed Marines himself to minimize civilian casualties, IE: Dont go around bombarding civilian populations.
East Coast Federation
20-08-2004, 16:46
14x3.1 Gigaton Phasers.
10 Transpasic Torpedo Lunchers
Maximum Speed is .50C during impluse power.
Sheilds Capable of taking 500 Gigatons of Damage before overload and finally failure. Can recharge 10% in 30 Seconds
3 QC Reactors ( which can produce as much power as I want) and 1 WarpCore
Entire EPS Grid and fire control systems are covered in a pool of
Liquid Nitrogen to prevent overheating and are Surrounded by Structural Integrity feilds to help them take the abuse.
And Of Crouse Ablative Armor
Sensors have a maximum range of 20 light years.
The Ship is capable of Warp 9.993
This thing has 5 of the same engines used to power the galaxy during impluse flight. That WILL make it fast.
And it doesn't really matter weather it's a turret or strip. As Long as the power can get there.
The ship also has 3 Fusion Reactors for emergancys.
The ship is capable of repairing itself. Nanities were donated by WarHaven just for this project.

It's Pirmary Function is a Super Heavy BattleShip or as a "surpressing fire" Platform during fleet manuvers.
Dimensions: Length : 1241 m
Beam : 770 m
Height : 545 m
Decks : 64
Of crouse I don't plan to use it unless my allys have problems.
Crazed Marines
21-08-2004, 00:26
TO: All USF
Subject: Avertion of war
I do not wish a war with the USF (Unless your name is TFU). I only wish to stop TFU from invading and overwhelming a smaller country who I consider under my protection since I am larger and have had previous experience with TFU. I REPEAT, I do not wish a war agains you, I just want to keep TFU from destroying another country in, what seems to be, his impearialistic desires. I will avoid using WMDs and targeting civilian populations UNLESS TFU uses WMDs or kills civilians. If that happens, I WILL respond in like and glass a TFU homeworld. I will ONLY do this is TFU INTENTIONALLY targets civilians or uses WMDS against a world.

I do have a secondary reason for war. The President of my country's son was nearly killed, by a ship of what he described as a ship of TFU make, while retrieving some of our nukes. We are here to also find out the truth behind this attack.
Dontgonearthere
21-08-2004, 00:50
OOC:
Very nice...I wouldnt really call it a super-heavy...my Justice Class destroyeres are about the same size...
Central Facehuggeria
21-08-2004, 04:50
Bump. I couldn't post today due to work issues, but I will attempt to do so tommorow.
Al-Imvadjah
21-08-2004, 05:40
I belive that in the previous thread, I was about to attack the TFU fleet that was trying to attack Siesatia. Just a reminder, in case anybody cares, and I'm ONLY goin to attack TFU vessels that approach Siesatia, unless they are diplomatic vessels.
The Silver Turtle
21-08-2004, 14:05
In the previous thread, I believe I was about to open fire on TFU's fleet attacking Siesatia, because he shot at my ships who had done nothing except request he back off from his agressive invasion. We request that a full apology be made or his fleet will be destroyed.
Dontgonearthere
21-08-2004, 15:58
OOC:
Knowing TFU his 'dpomtric veselllz' also classify as 'DEDLE VIRIS COTAINER!!!111 UR CAPIOL IZ DED!'
Crazed Marines
21-08-2004, 16:06
I am not going to accept any diplomatic ships for security reasons. If TFU wants to talk, he can send a sub-space message fully apoligising and he must withdraw his fleet to avoid bloodshed. That are my terms for this war to not happen.

OOC: Knowing TFU, he'll not comply and then whine when I go to war with him and kick him square in the jaw. I've seen it before. I'm giving him an opt out of this. If he doesn't, I'll chase him out of Siesatia all the way to his home worlds. I'm warning him now because I don't want it to come to this.
Wormia
21-08-2004, 16:42
The Federated Planetary Republic of Wormia would like to announce it's neutrality in this war.

OOC:

Just for the record, whilst I don't much like the whole "Let's gang up on TFU" mentality, I also don't think that one war is "ganging up." So. Yeh.

Anyways, I'd like to formally announce that I DO acknowledge CF's "attack" on me, so I'm RPing Wormian-TFU ties in a somewhat shifty to perhaps hostile state.

DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. I'M RPING IT.
Germanische Zustande
21-08-2004, 17:18
The UFGZ will speak with TFU when next we get a chance. If he is monitering this channel, know this:

Should you commit any unneccesary atrocities in this war, ones that would purposely harm innocents with no intent or purpose toward ending the war, the UFGZ, and most likely the USF, will withdraw its support.

ooc:

He hasn't joined the forums yet, so I'll just send him a TG for now...
Crazed Marines
21-08-2004, 17:46
ooc: Who are you talking to, me or TFU?
Germanische Zustande
21-08-2004, 18:15
TFU
CoreWorlds
21-08-2004, 18:34
We withdraw from this war, as we have more pressing matters to attend to. Good day.
Crazed Marines
22-08-2004, 01:00
Good day and good luck destroying those Shivians.
Here's something that'll help you defeat them. Graviton mines. Have 1000 free.
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=651
CoreWorlds
22-08-2004, 01:45
Thank you. Any chance of getting production rights?
Crazed Marines
22-08-2004, 01:54
depends on the green...TG me about any buisness proposals
Siesatia
22-08-2004, 04:25
OOC- I really didn't want this war, but TFU wanted a confrontation in that space battle, we AIMed for what I was going to do, and I followed, how stupid was I? LOL.

IC- Message to any potential allies, we share land with a group of fledgling space nations, they are making good progress in their development of space technology, and they hope to put their first Space Station up in 6 years. We are meerely their protectors. If TFU decides to bombard the cities, he will be bombarding lower level tech nations.
Siesatia
22-08-2004, 04:26
Coreworlds- Interested in any plasma torpedoes? Though Im sure you have better.
Central Facehuggeria
22-08-2004, 15:42
Bump.
Crazed Marines
22-08-2004, 16:08
"Admiral Duras! The third and fourth fleets have been completed. Should I send them out?" asked the aid, Colonial Karath.
"Prepare them for war. Send a ship at warp 13 to Siesatia to tell them the news and that we are going to send the first, third, and fourth fleets to protect them. Keep the second fleet in our own system in case TFU tttries to attack us here."
"Yes sir!" Colonial Karath then went to the main launch bay where the shuttlecraft were held. He entered a shuttle, which lifted off as well as two escort ships. They reached orbit quickly and opened up the subspace well, headed towards Siesatia.

***encrypted channel***

To: Siesatia
From: Crazed Marines
Subj: Fleets

Our third and fourth Asguard mothership fleets have been completed. We are sending them as well as the first fleet to help defend you. Do not open fire when we deploy them.

***end message***
The Silver Turtle
22-08-2004, 18:25
OOC: Duras, where's that name from? I'm sure I recognize it...
IC:
Aboard The IS Enterprise, Glorious Heritage class heavy cruiser in the third fleet
"General O'Neill, the TFU fleet hasn't responded so far. What are your orders?"
"Keep the third fleet where it is, just outside their attack range. Is it fully prepared for battle?"
"Yes sir."
"And the Crazed Marines wormhole shields?"
"All capital ships report that they operating efficiently, along with the Atlantian and Dannelandian shields."
"Excellent. Tell the fleet to make sure they're set to the TFU homeworld co-ordinates. I'll find it amusing for them to be blowing themselves up. Oh, are all fighters and mechas deployed?"
"Yes sir, as are the Dante class weapons."
"Good. I want the fleet ready to open fire with all weapons, and get a lock on every TFU ship with ion disruptors and polaron wave turrets. First take out large portions of their fleet with a slipstream core assault, under fighter cover. Then the ion disruptors and polaron waves, I want their shields annihilated in coordination with a full fighter strike, and then I want a full ten-second kinetic missile barrage and naval gauss cannon blitz coupled with mechas going in and slicing their ships open. If there's anything left, open up with the particle and anti-particle beam cannons, and offensive lasers. All the while I want a covering barrage of anti-ship missiles; one out of every two missile tubes on every capital ship is to be devoted to that. Got it?"
"Your orders have already been dispatched to every ship in the fleet, quantum-encrypted twisted-light microwave-laser tightbeam transmissions only, of course."
"Of course. Are the Horizon class assault ships back from the Seven Systems yet?"
"Yes, 100 are on their way from the Ledan base, cloaked."
"Good, good. Now get me a steak."
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2004, 19:06
OOC: I take it somebody has TGed this to TFU?
The Silver Turtle
22-08-2004, 19:59
OOC: I sure as hell haven't, it's not my thread and therefore not my responsibility *looks in CM's directions*
While I'm here...
IC:
Transmission from General O'Neill, commanding the Third Ineffable Spacefleet, to Siesatian High Command
"Greetings. I'm sorry I haven't contacted you already, it kinda slipped my mind. Anyway, our third fleet is here to defend you from The Federal Union. You have our full support. Do not worry, we intend to destroy his forces before they get time for orbital bombardment."

At the same time, a second transmission was sent to Ineffable Naval Command, and ten minutes later eight Fury class battlecarriers raised their cannons, as if preparing to engage an orbital target...

General O'Neill smiled. All that was left to do was attack.
"Crewman! Distribute this extra order to the fleet: When our attack starts, I want two-thousand of our Shrike fighters loaded with graviton mines to distribute them around the TFU fleet. I think we should try our new toys out."
Central Facehuggeria
22-08-2004, 20:11
Space bubbled and boiled, seemingly melting until a hellish green circle, no more than a hundred miles across, opened up inside Siesatian space. It was the signature entry of the CF Star fleet. It meant only one thing, a fleet was coming.

Sure enough, a small fleet of vessels exited the light. Large, multi-kilometer battleships, smaller cruisers, and a smattering of frigates and carriers left from the portal.

Numerically, this fleet was tiny. However, each and every vessel here had been refitted with new weapons, more armor, and signifigantly more advanced shields. They were more than a match for any enemy forces which would choose to show themselves.

The lead ship, a Vengeance II superbattleship opened up a direct site-site communication with Siesatian high command. "This is the eighth CF expeditionary fleet. We are here to help protect you from Federal aggression. Please respond..."
The Silver Turtle
22-08-2004, 20:31
Tightbeam transmission from General O'Neill and the Ineffable Third Spacefleet, to the newly-arrived starships
"Hello, who are you? Be ye friend or foe of Siesatia?"
Siesatia
22-08-2004, 20:59
This is all OOC
Let me introduce you to my fleet commanders:
General Hammond
Colonel O'niell (WIth 2 L's)
Major Carter
Dr Jackson
Teal'c

Will they do nicely? LMAO, all the SG-1 things, anyone else a Geter like me?
Crazed Marines
22-08-2004, 21:30
OOC: I don't remember where Duras come from, It just stuck out.
OOC2: I'm a gater as well... my fleets contain mainly Asguard motherships.

IC: Admiral Duras was watching the deployment ceremonies for his ships. It was a beautiful parade, with him as the grand master. All the girls swooned over his Marines in their dress blues, while his wife rode in the car with him. Once they reached the end of the parade, he exited his car. His honor guard drew their sabers and made an archway for him, as per CM custom. He walked to the podium to speak to his men, who were now assembling. Once the division gathered, he said, "Today, you are my Marines. Tomorrow, you shall be heroes!" With this, the crowd went wild. It took him a few minutes to continue. "We are going to battle against our arch enemies, a foe who shows no mercy. A foe who does not care about the well-being of the galaxy. Our foe is a bully who pickson nations that are not a tenth of their size. That is why we MUST defend our common ally. That is why you are all heroes. I would be proud to go into battle with you on any given day of the week. That is why I am going with you, aboard m new flagship, the Iwo Jima. We will, together, bring this enemy to their knees!" After this speach similar to Patton, the crowd cheered for ten minutes. "I promise you this. Not all of us will come out of this alive, but we will all come out of it. This is my solemn oath and my duty as an officer."
Admiral Duras then stepped down from the podium, got into his jeep and wen tto the CMS Iwo Jima.
"Well, how are we doing with the loading of the SSS project?" asked Duras to his aide
"Ahead of schedule. Using the SSS, though, we can't pack but 12 Novas in each ship, and 48 protons."
"What about the mines? Are we able to load an equal amount of Manchurians and Gravitons?"
"Yes sir."
"Good. See to it that all of the ships have their replicators to give everyone a drink of whiskey. That'll be a morale boost."
"I'll see to it right away."
"Good for you Colonial."

***24 hours later***
"Men, this is a tough battle we must fight. But we will fight together. Now get your men into the ships and we'll head 'em out!"

With that, all 138 Asguard moherships launched, hit orbit, and opened up the subspace warp. They would be in Siesatia space within 6 hours.
The Silver Turtle
22-08-2004, 22:03
OOC: I'm a gater three!
[/coat]
Damn, I forgot to load my ships with the SSS...
Useless nova bombs taking up space and I can't even use them...
*considers re-directing his fleet to TFU's homeworld...or firing nova bombs at his own craft through the wormhole shields; now there's a thought...*
Crazed Marines
22-08-2004, 22:08
OOC: I just have the novas as an insurance package, same with the wormhole shields (and the redirect of the fire to TFU space lmao!)
Central Facehuggeria
22-08-2004, 23:45
Tightbeam transmission from General O'Neill and the Ineffable Third Spacefleet, to the newly-arrived starships
"Hello, who are you? Be ye friend or foe of Siesatia?"

Admiral Weyr considered exactly why she was here before replying to the Ineffable imperial forces. "I am Admiral Aisa Weyr of the CF eighth expeditionary force. We are here to defend Siesatia from Federal attrocities."

OOC: Jaffa Cree!
Al-Imvadjah
23-08-2004, 00:13
The Al-Imvad fleet appeared behind TFU's fleet, though well outside effective energy weapon range. The capital ships began to manuever into good positions from which to bombard the opposing fleet. Meanwhile, some of the Pike, Northern, and Pirahna Class frigates moved to sortie with TFU vessels. FPF, and RSD-1, 2 &2m fighters were launched from the carriers and battlecruisers.
A second group was dispatched, containing 10 Mule Class Destroyers, 10 Angels, 2 Invincibles and 4 Missionaries. These also were accompanied by frigates and support vessels.

OOC and when I say sortie, I mean hit and runs against your weaker vessels.

My ships are hitting TFU's ships right now, would anybody care to respond or help? I'm waiting for TFU's damage reports right now.
Siesatia
23-08-2004, 02:54
OOC- No, don't Kree!
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 03:03
The usual Federal ships that were on patrol had been recalled. 50 Federal Warships, a full third of the patrol division, were just finishing upgrades to weapons and shield systems. The small fleet would Fold to the contested system and wait, should tensions rise between TFU and this Siesatia nation...

The small fleet departed from the sprawling Ateos Prime shipyard complex. After proceeding far enough from Ateos, the 50 ships simply disappeared from the system in a small flash of white light.

Only a minute and two jumps later, the Federal Patrol Fleet appeared in a similar flash of light within the contested system. There the Fleet would wait, should peace fail.

ooc: We have drives that fold the fabric of space as a form of transport. It is nearly instantaneous, but our current tech has Folding distance limitations, requiring more than one jump for long distances.
Hive Fleet Imodius
23-08-2004, 03:57
The hive was thinking:
Should we assist TFU and amean our alliance or should we focus upon the potential foundations of a shivan alliance . . . but what image do we portray by not supporting existing alliances.
Very well it shall be done.

The fully armed and mobilised hive fleet had been in deep system roaving - tearing appart systems and simply munching on haples planets. suddenly 500million of them heard the call of the hive to battle - as one they lurched and warped into hive territory before well jumping into the conflict.

The star and planet sized vessel took up formation around the edge of the system flooding the area with their natural FLTi feild - a 20 lightsecond radius was created while the rest of the fleet moved in for the kill - over 300million fighters swarmed towards those that would threaten the TFU, those that would threaten the hive 100million frigates engaged various targets plasma cannons charging on the organic vessels while the remaining moon sized norn queens moved in range of the target capital ships cityimolator plasma and emp cannons fully charged.

open comms from hive fleet @ aggressors:
We are the hive, we are perfection.
Stand down your weaponsystems and surrender your ships - this is your final warning - failure to comply will result in your destruction. The hive has no intention of harming any civilians however their safty cannot be garranteed should you fail to comply with our request.
We are the hive, we welcome you to the fold!

wetware comms from Hive fleet @ TFU fleet:
We are the hive, we are perfection.
We are glad to see you are keeping the same friendly company. The hive wishes to extend its hand one more in peace to you and your people, we will however remind you that all salvage rights are that of the hive - please secure any damaged vessels behind norn queen amediustine - she will protect those that need protecting - other than that we invite you to the slaughter.
We are the hive, we are perfection.

*The massive form of amediustine lurched towards the TFU vessels interposing itself between the attackers and the TFU fleet to allow them the chance to fall back into the safty of the hive fleet.*

ooc> A lot of you know my fleet has been prepped for somthing big for a while - the hive hungers - normally you would get 3 warnings now you get one - nuff said.
Wetware is a hive to ally direct link - it cannot be tapped except by psychers and even then they would have to be part of the hive mind not to be overloaded by the 1.5 billion voices that would stream into their head as soon as they attempted to tap into the system.
Central Facehuggeria
23-08-2004, 04:35
OOC: I should warn you that I haven't begun firing yet. And any attack on my ships will result in the complete annhilation of the hive ships in this area. And no, I'm not joking or underestimating your capabilities.

IC: Admiral Weyr laughed to herself. The hive is almost as predictable as the Shivans.

In her most carefree voice, she said "Open a comms channel."

"Channel open, Admiral!" The communications officer announced to the Admiral. It was completely unnecessary, but a pleasant courtesy nonetheless.

"Attention Hive ships, any attack on CF vessels will result in your destruction. Similarly, any attack on Siesatian planets will result in your destruction. We are the Central Facehuggerian navy, we are death incarnate. We welcome you to the grip of the silent lord!"
Al-Imvadjah
23-08-2004, 05:08
OOC are you attacking me? if so...

IC
Comm to Hive Fleet:
Yo Hive-dog, wussup?
Why are you trying to stop us from protecting Siesatia?
We are in a limited engagement with TFU.
We do not wish for war with the Hive.
Though I doubt you are perfection.
That's really hard to get.
Please do not interfere.
We are open to negotiotions.
End Comm.

The frigates pulled back to the main bulk of the fleet. HACSHMs were targeted at TFU vessels, ignoring the Hive fleet's ships and only targeting TFU vessels. They were not launched however. Sea Lions began rearming the frigates that had expended their ammo.
The second fleet has arrived. They take up a position on the other side of the TFU fleet, though close to the first Al-Imvad fleet.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 05:32
The Federal Patrol Fleet remained motionless, watching the events in the Siesatian system unfold... It appeared that Hive Fleet Immodious would be on the side of the Federation yet again... Maybe a USF membership could be offered to them...

A little over a century ago, the Federation had been unaware of any other space faring nations other than the Ancestors and the Great Evil. Now, the tiny, insignificant Federal Fleet sat in the presence of great powers. It was most likely that the Fleet would be annihilated.

"Comm, Open a channel to all fleets in-system." Captain Tetzeil was not in a good mood. He knew very well that he had been sent on a suicide mission. But, it was his honor to die for the Federation.

"This is Fleet Commander Tetzeil of the United Federation of Germanic Worlds. We wish no harm to any vessel unless we are fired upon. We also greet our friends of the Hive Fleet, and wish them well. We ask that all avenues of peace be explored before war is declared, as I am sure that none wish the deaths of many of their people in a terrible war."

Frank didn't buy this peace junk. He had heard about all the glorious battles from his colleagues, and he wanted a piece of the action. But, he still hated the fact that he probably wouldn't be able to gloat...

"Tactical, get this rust bucket into a formation with the rest of the fleet..."
The Silver Turtle
23-08-2004, 13:17
OOC: Hive, whereabouts are you? There are fleets on most sides of TFU
AI, don't worry. I'm about to open fire.
Oh, and though I'm pretty sure you meant us TFU is technically the agressor.
IC:
Transmission from General O'Neill to CF Fleet
"Good, good. That is our intention too; although TFU opened fire on our shops and it has become now a matter of retribution."

Transmission from General O'Neill of the Third Ineffable Spacefleet to Fleet Commander Tetzeil
"If you don't wish to die, don't shoot at us."

The General looked out of the observation deck as the Hive fleet arrived.
"How many ships?"
"A lot sir. Well over a hundred million."
"I'm pretty sure that many wold disturb the orbit of the planet. There's an awful lot of stuff up here now."
"Yep, we're already in reverse to compensate for our drifting towards them."
"And they said they didn't want to harm any civilians? I'm pretty sure cooling down a majorly populated planet counts as harming innocent folk...What would happen if we nova bombed those mofos?"
"Well, we'd destroy their whole fleet with one, of course. The only problem would be that we'd be blown up to, along with the people we're trying to defend."
"Damn. So we need superweapons, but not uber-super-weapons."
"Indeed."
"Okay, broadcast the following message to the Hive fleet;

"Hive Fleet, This is General O'Neill of the Ineffable 3rd Spacefleet. We have no quarrel with you, if you do not fire upon use you will not be harmed. If you do, well, I wouldn't like to be you. That said, I wouldn't like to be you anyway! Ha-Ha!"

Then open fire on the TFU fleet, following the battle plan I stated earlier."

As the Ineffable fleet began its assault, the Hive fleet made its move also.
"Damn. Okay, all frigates stop assaulting TFU and defend the fleet! Slipstream core launchers, open fire on both the TFU and Hive fleets! Maximum effect radius! Deploy the graviton mines! Deploy the bladder mines too!"
Ineffable fighters swarmed forward from the fleet, ignoring the swarms of Hive fighter craft and flying in and out of formation, dashing between the capital ships of both fleets. The graviton mines remained inert for the moment, drifting to surround the enemy fleets. The bladder mines waited until they neared a capital ship, and then detonated. What followed was no ordinary explosion; swelling out from the mine looked like a black, crinkled sphere, with purple veins visible here and there on the surface. The, something produced by the mine swelled to about fifty metres, anything it touched simply ceasing to exist. Where it touched the hull of a capital ship merely a semispherical gouge remained after the thing faded from existence.
As for enemy fire, well, plasma caused little harm to ships capable of remaining with 1000 kilometres of a star for days at a time, although with millions of globules of it being fired at them shields were being whittled away.
Scoyle
23-08-2004, 14:03
OOC: Who is TFU? I have never seen the guy before but yet I keep hearing about him.
The Silver Turtle
23-08-2004, 14:21
OOC: The Federal Union. Check the front post of this thread for the initial thread by him.
Al-Imvadjah
23-08-2004, 15:26
OOC except he spells federal wrong.

IC
The Al-Imvad ships wait for a reply from the Hive, refining their targets and preparing to escape. The first fleet lined up to be able to launch then escape. The Missionaries activated all their EW devices, simultaneously jamming enemy sensors, communications (not the Hive since they're telepathic but TFU's ships can't talk to eachother), deactivating all cloaking fields, and generally screwing with the enemy vessels.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 18:05
"Sir, Incoming transmission. It's from an enemy fleet," shouted the ensign at the Comm station.

The Captain wondered what the message could possibly be. It wasn't like it was hard to figure out. "Put it through, ensign."

"If you don't wish to die, don't shoot at us."

"Well, they certainly are generous. Send out Fleet General Order Seven, we might have to shoot."
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All the ships in the Fleet began to raise Phase shields, Standard shields, and nothingspace shields. One by one vessels disappeared into the ether-dimension, where nothing of this universe could harm them...

Weapons banks began charging, torpedoe tubes were loaded, fighters readied for battle. Boots thuded against corridor floors, marching to battle stations.

The Federal Fleet was ready.
Crazed Marines
24-08-2004, 03:09
"Admiral. HFI has showed up." screamed one ensign.
"Thank you. Weaps, can you modify a few of the Novas to where they won't harm the planets?"
"I think I know where you're going, and we can. It will limit the radius, but five should do the trick."
"Ok, do so to 25 of our Novas. Fire them when they're all ready, and use the subspace FTL launcher."
"Yes sir."

Five minutes later, the Weapons specialist returned. "Admiral, All 25 have been fired. It is disguised to where it will appear as a subspace message. They won't know what hit them untill it is too late. We also sent a decoy message a minute earlier at the same frequency. The message tole them that we were going to send them terms for a peaceful negotiation of this conflict."
"I doubt that HFI will like the message, but they'll get our point in 5...4...3...2...1..." As the Admiral finished his count, 25 massive explosions happened in all around and in the midst of the Hive fleet.
Central Facehuggeria
24-08-2004, 12:53
el bumpo
Al-Imvadjah
24-08-2004, 16:55
When the Al-Imvad fleets detected the explosions, they launched their HACSHMs against TFU, betting that HFI was now out of the picture. Over 300 HACSHMs were moving towards the TFU fleet within 2 minutes of the explosions. Then the first fleet moved at top speed away from the combat zone to avoid retribution from any possible survivors.
The Silver Turtle
24-08-2004, 17:41
With the Hive Fleet damaged if not destroyed, General O'Neill took it as a sign to engage the second stage of his attack. The slipstream core launchers fired at the enemy, each core detonating and sucking anything within a kilometre of the core into the slipstream, from where there is little chance of escape without a slipstream drive installed. 200 of these were fired at both the Hive fleet and the TFU fleet.
As this finished, the Ion-disruptor and polaron wave bombardment of the TFU fleet slowed, just enough to keep the shields from recharging, all missile tubes and railcannons were switched to kinetic ammunition, and the TFU fleet was blitzed. Over five hundred thousand of the small weapons were launched, accelerating to 80-95 PSL and causing nuclear weapons grade destruction levels to whatever they hit; most of that being TFU vessels. As soon as this was finished, they switched back to the smart anti-ship missiles, and fired the particle and anti-particle beam cannons at the largest enemy ships, along with the offensive laser cannons.
Central Facehuggeria
25-08-2004, 00:47
I do believe TFU is ignoring this thread, although I don't know exactly why.
Crazed Marines
25-08-2004, 02:24
OOC: TFU doesn't like me for calling him on "Operation Backstep". I guess that's why he's ignoring this. I TG'd him the link, but I think Germanische Zustande is RPing for him.
Crazed Marines
25-08-2004, 02:40
IC: "Admiral Duras. The Fifth fleet has come to reinforce us bringing our total strength to 200 ships, with hundreds more to come." said the same ensign.
Good. What's your name son?"
"Ensign Paoul."
"Interesting name, where's it from?"
"No clue sir. My Grandfater was drunk one night an changed his name. His first name is Paul, which probably explains how he came to that."
"Now, let's pay attention to the TFU fleet. Tell me where they are."
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 07:08
Captain Tetzeil had wished it hadn't come to this. He stood up from his command chair and shouted, "Communications, send a QM to Atheos, divert the Coreworlds Defense Fleet here. We'll need reinforcements. Ops, order all vessels to raise all shielding types, and begin charging weapons. When the Reinforcement fleet arrives, we begin our attack."

He slumped back into his repulsorchair and pondered the best way to kill...
Hive Fleet Imodius
25-08-2004, 12:12
Ok a few points -
1: there is a FTLi feild filling the entire system and a lot of space out side the system - firing missiles into subspace is not possible they would either explode on launch or just sit there - i did point this out - please do remember that like a planet my ships create their own FTLi feild due to their insane size.

2: Escape is impossible as is entry to the system without bumping into the ships that are surrounding the system.

3: The hive ships have surrounded all the ships that are attacking or about to attack the TFU fleet up down left right and anything else you can imagine in the 3d of space.

4: The TFU fleet is currently hiding behind a moon sized hive vessel.

5: My fleet is not in one large clump.


ooh one last thing - i know nova bombs cause stars to go critical - but what type of damage are they? radiation based - ie huage nukes? or what?!
Central Facehuggeria
25-08-2004, 13:10
Ok a few points -
1: there is a FTLi feild filling the entire system and a lot of space out side the system - firing missiles into subspace is not possible they would either explode on launch or just sit there - i did point this out - please do remember that like a planet my ships create their own FTLi feild due to their insane size.

2: Escape is impossible as is entry to the system without bumping into the ships that are surrounding the system.

3: The hive ships have surrounded all the ships that are attacking or about to attack the TFU fleet up down left right and anything else you can imagine in the 3d of space.

4: The TFU fleet is currently hiding behind a moon sized hive vessel.

5: My fleet is not in one large clump.


ooh one last thing - i know nova bombs cause stars to go critical - but what type of damage are they? radiation based - ie huage nukes? or what?!

1. Your ships would emit a gravity field from being so massive (and even then, it wouldn't be *that* high. I mean, look at gravity on the moon.) They wouldn't emit a FTLi field simply because they're so large.

2. Ramming speed!

3. Damn glad I've got lots of area effect weapons then.

4. Then I may have to punch through that moon sized vessel to get to his fleet.

5. But you just said that they're completely surrounding our fleets. That does sound like one large clump to me. Or perhaps a bunch of smaller clumps...

Nova bombs cause novae in stars. Not a real nova either. A sci-fi instaboom nova. It sends out a wave of heat capable of burning a planet down to slag in a matter of moments.

IC: Admiral Weyr was deep in thought, flickering over various ideas like an old movie. Then she suddenly had it. "Load a reusable probe with biowerapons. Send it out looking for the Federal Fleet. If these giant space roaches try to intercept it, the virus will spray all over their nearby ships and eat them from the inside out. It's a win win for us."

"Aye admiral! Probe loaded and launched! It's scanning the immediate area. So far, no fix on the Federal ships yet." One of the expendable bridge officers yelled out in glee.
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 15:54
Uh... CF? Which Federal Fleet?
Al-Imvadjah
25-08-2004, 16:25
Its a good thing my missiles are regular missiles with extremely powerful warheads then, they don't go FTL. And as for your worldship(s), I would like you to introduce you to my friend: the SHABSTM, specifically designed to blow the hell out of anything bigger than Pluto. Carried on both the Missionary, the Mule and the Barricuda classes. And my missiles are not only homing missiles with their own sensors and AI,they can be guided - so hiding won't really help.

IC
"Sir, we're surrounded by very large craft, and I'm not surewhat sort of damage our HACSHMs did to TFU, we can't get an accurate damage report because that worldship is blocking our view."

"Very well, we have followed standard battle order thus far, and I intend to finish by the book as well. Prepare to break through the enemy formations surrounding us, we're going to escape."

With that the order went out to prepare for a breakout. The Missionary Class ships jammed the sensors of the remaining HFI ships. Then the fleets began to move toward the now-blinded vessels trying to hold them in. Sensor jammers were activated in all craft, to keep the HFI from even having a chance of detecting them. The fleets then aimed for the thinnest concentration of Hive ships and accelerated to top speed, forcing their way through, attacking only the ships directly in thier way. They then continued at top speed away from the battle area where they regrouped.
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 16:39
A fleet of a hundred fifty Federal Warships appeared outside the battle in a brief flash of light. Bringing the combined Federal Fleet to 200 ships, the Federated Fleet was now a force to be reckoned with.

The Ancestral Class Battlecruiser began a full deck-launch, 200 fighters spewing from its side docking bays. This fleet also carried with it a small frigate that had been designed specifically to attack Shivans. Maybe its gravitational weapons would also be effective on the enemy vessels.

The entire fleet disappeared behind their temporal shielding, undetectable by any sensors...

ooc: there have to be sensors that can detect the temporal shielding, but I don't know if any of these nations have it...
Central Facehuggeria
25-08-2004, 21:13
Uh... CF? Which Federal Fleet?

Whoops, right. The evil imperialist federal fleet. (TFU.)

IC: "Admiral Weyr! Neutral ships have just engaged some form of temporal shielding. Those Indran sensors we bought just picked them up."

Weyr thought for a moment. Her ships certainly had ways of diffusing temporal shields on hand, but so far the GZ fleet had shown no *particularly* hostile acts. And why use a temporal torpedo when you don't have to? Besides, like most CF officers, she had a deep mistrust of temporal technology, believing it to be something that was not meant to be used.

Meanwhile, the probe sped on, looking for any signs of the Federal Imperialist fleet.
Crazed Marines
25-08-2004, 22:03
Ok a few points -
1: there is a FTLi feild filling the entire system and a lot of space out side the system - firing missiles into subspace is not possible they would either explode on launch or just sit there - i did point this out - please do remember that like a planet my ships create their own FTLi feild due to their insane size.

2: Escape is impossible as is entry to the system without bumping into the ships that are surrounding the system.

3: The hive ships have surrounded all the ships that are attacking or about to attack the TFU fleet up down left right and anything else you can imagine in the 3d of space.

4: The TFU fleet is currently hiding behind a moon sized hive vessel.

5: My fleet is not in one large clump.


ooh one last thing - i know nova bombs cause stars to go critical - but what type of damage are they? radiation based - ie huage nukes? or what?!

1) What kind of FTLi field do you have?
2) Also depends on your FTLi, because we're using a certain type of FTL travel that bypasses most FTLi.
3) How can you say that, I may havejust destroyed your fleet
4) Thank you. I can kill them now. That is, if you have a fleet left.
5) It was when you first came in. If you read my post, it was my people's reaction when you just came into the system (after the messages, before they spread out.)

6) My Novas use M/AM explosions that emit virtually no radiation (enriched AM) to where species like...you...can't feed off of it I said that Only 5 would do the job. I launched more anticipating movement.
The Silver Turtle
25-08-2004, 22:07
OOC: GZ: does your temporal shielding work by creating a bubble universe round your ships, cutting yourselves off from the normal one? I used something similar to that as both a last-ditch shielding effort and more commonly a FTL drive, though I found slipstream to be a lot less hassle seeing as how my bubble generators were primitive, overheated after about 40 minutes and I couldn't shoot at anything or get sensor readings from outside, and thusly calculating where I was was quite difficult.
Although I met a few nations who could track it, I never developed sensors for finding it though...
HFI: 1: Okay, sounds a bit iffy to me but doesn't affect me anyway since I'm not trying to leave
2: Ditto
3: Okay, in that case you have half a million kinetic missiles tearing through you on their way to TFU. Anti-ship missiles might hit you, but it's unlikely considering they're very-smart missiles. But the slipstream cores aimed at TFU are going through you.
4: It also has however many missiles and slipstream cores are left after tearing through your main fleet heading for it, assuming it's between me and TFU (as being a sphere, you're moonship is not a circle and therefore does not encircle the TFU fleet, unless it has some way of going inside, in which case it would englobe them anyway)
5: Aww, that's how I like to fight 'em. But, it does mean you're still in a lot of danger from the slipstream core barrage.

Edit: Forgot 'bout the novas. Mine use an extremely unstable and heavy man-made element (Voltarium? I can't remember it's name: it certainly starts with V and doesn't exist in RL so far) to cause a massive explosion, which in turn destabilises the star and causes an even bigger one. (Except, it can cause a nova-sized explosion with or without a star...stupid contradictory tv programs...)

IC:
"The AI craft are engaging in sensor warfare with the enemy sir. Shall we join them?"
"Lets. All capships are to engage the FTGs. Oh, and broadcast jamming signals while you're at it, along with this message to all fleets:
All cloaked ships, decloak and prepare to attack!
Don't make it obvious though, make it seem as though it's just been carelessy scattered or something."
Moments later, on the few sensors that were still giving readings, the Ineffable fleet seemed to dectuple in size [OOC: It looks ten times as big as it did before]. The space seemed to be filled to bursting with Ineffable ships. There were, however, no more or less ships than there had been. The FTGs, or False Target Generators broadcast signals to sensors that made it appear as if there were far more than the single ship there actually was. With hundreds of ships each activating one of these, the fleet seemed to grow far more menacing, the transmission seeming to add credibility to this new "threat".

"All Dante 1 weapons, fire at the moonship. Switch to anti-particle beams, maximum intensity."
"We have 100 in range, but the A-I fleet is firing missiles at it too."
"Just aim to make sure they aren't hit."
"Weapons firing now sir. By the way, would you like a casualty count?"
"Yes, I would."
"We have lost two frigates so far, one from AP reactor detonation due to overloaded shields-"
"Make sure that doesn't happen on any other ships."
"Already done sir, it turned out on that ship they'd been rigged up wrong by a technician, who's had his just desert. The other frigate refused to return to the centre, and continued to fight. It was taken out by enemy fire. We have also lost 27 Shrike fighters and 12 Centaurs."
"Send their families medals."

OOC: A single Dante 1 particle beam at maximum intensity could melt through the crust of a major rocky planet in a fairly short time. Switched to anti-matter and a single beam's going to do a helluva lot of damage. And you've got a hundred shooting a mere moon-sized vessel.
They are vulnerable to fighter attack, being seperate vessels in their own right, but are within the protective shell in my fleet.
BTW How many uberships do you have?
Crazed Marines
25-08-2004, 23:30
OOC: Germanische Zustande, are you RPing for TFU?
OOC2: HFI, we need a casuality count. We don't expect to destroy your whole fleet, but at least post some losses.
SIC: TST, don't use any radiation emitting weapons, HFI can feed on radiation somehow. Here's a poison that AoN reasrchers have found deadly to Hive personell and ships. CF gave it to us in a previous engagement, and we are replicating it now onboard. We should also test the SSS, ancient weapons, and a new iweapon of mine that is "Hush-hush"
OOC: My subspace launcher sends weapons thru subspace (like the messages) so its not touched by most shields or FTLi's.
Central Facehuggeria
26-08-2004, 00:00
IC: The probe flew on, until it detected a hint of duranium nearby. Duranium, like what the Federal union ships are made of...

"Admiral! We've got them! Uploading position to nav computers! They're hiding between that large bioturd!"

Weyr smilied. "Ready the genebuster virus bombs. Prepare to fire them at the hive ships, paying especial attention to the ones shielding the Federal Fleet. The rest are of little importance. When you've punched through the ships protecting the federals, I want you to fire Parallax torpedos and the new quasi-space beam weapons at them. Then, open fire with all other weapons.

But do not fire until I give the command. I still have a few things to plan first."

OOC: Basically, the genebuster virus destroys DNA. If your tyranids are cellular creatures, it's probably going to work on them. And the virus reproduces extremely quickly, within five minutes for the latest strain. With the amount I'll be spraying on you, I should have a hole straight towards the Federal fleet in no time. Of course, if you intelligently decided to use non organic armor for your ships, then I can just refit the torpedos to fire concentrated molecular acid instead. :) If I notice my virus not working of course.
Crazed Marines
26-08-2004, 00:25
IC:
"TFU ships spotted Admiral"
"Well ensign, we have ourselves a good target. I expect that CF will use his virus. We'll wait for him to punch a hole on the remaining Hive ships, then we beat them senseless."
Germanische Zustande
26-08-2004, 07:46
The Commodore overlooked the Holopanels that displayed all the information that the Fleet sensors picked up. He stared intently at the moving symbols and figures.

He finally grunted out orders. "Move the fleet into a Wall fomation in front of this HFI moonship that's guarding the TFU fleet. Have all ships and fighters engage all shields, activate their armor systems, and engage point-defense. No vessel will fire upon enemy ships. We will only intercept and destroy projectiles, and take the full brunt of the enemy assault. The fleet is not to fire upon enemy vessels. IS THAT CLEAR?"

An affirmative yell came from the entire bridge. "Good. Carry out immediately. The Fleet is to go to Priority Alert."
Crazed Marines
26-08-2004, 22:11
"Admiral, the GZ fleet is acting as a barrier...they're not wanting us to pass!"
"Well, I expected that'd we'd need ships on the other side of a battle formation. That's why I ordered the next wave of reinforcements to come up at the other end of the system. We've flanked them with 2 groups of 200 each. Simple logic, our forges are producing at 300% capacity. They will break down soon, but their efforts will not be in vain..."
With that, the newly made Fifth Fleet appears at the other end of the system, flanking HFI and GZ, going straight towards the TFU fleet. Their main guns are firing as rapidly as possible. Graviton and Manchurian mines (gravity lazer) are deployed. Ship after ship in the TFU armada are cought off-guard. Ship after ship are destroyed. They end the battle by firing a Nova torpedo thru a subspace channel, modified after hearing about the earlier success, into the heart of the fleet. They knew that if it was destroyed by point-defense, it'd explode anyways.

OOC: My forges can produce a ship in 9 days regularly, they're working at 300% safe capacity, so the ships are produced in only 3 days.
Germanische Zustande
26-08-2004, 22:23
"Commodore, the enemy is flanking us!"

De Tua slammed his fist on the armrest of his chair. "Have the Shivan Hunter activate the Grav field. Have all ships activate the compensation drives, and extend the compensation fields around the TFU and HFI fleet. Have the ships we're pulling in set before an HFI ship. We will not fire on them, but HFI will."

And so it was done.

ooc: CM, your ships and missiles and torpedoes will be drawn toward the Shivan Hunter Frigate. However, it will hide in its Temporal shields...
Central Facehuggeria
26-08-2004, 22:32
"Commodore, the enemy is flanking us!"

De Tua slammed his fist on the armrest of his chair. "Have the Shivan Hunter activate the Grav field. Have all ships activate the compensation drives, and extend the compensation fields around the TFU and HFI fleet. Have the ships we're pulling in set before an HFI ship. We will not fire on them, but HFI will."

And so it was done.

ooc: CM, your ships and missiles and torpedoes will be drawn toward the Shivan Hunter Frigate. However, it will hide in its Temporal shields...

OOC: If you're hiding behind your temporal shields, you can't do much else. You are removed from space-time after all.

An IC post is coming. I just don't feel inspired right now. :D
Al-Imvadjah
26-08-2004, 22:32
OOC this is happening after GZ's earlier post but before CM's attack.

The Al-Imvad ships regrouped, having suffered only light damage from floating debris and wild shots. They then turned around and opened fire into the enemy formations. Railguns and HACSHMs were the weapons most used, and the sheer number of them would have filled enemy sensors beyond their ability to track them all in addition to the other allied ships; would have if their sensors still worked. As it was, the HFI, GZ ,and TFU sensors were being jammed and misled by so many high powered devices that the combined enemy fleets probably had barely 200 semi functional sensors in all their ships. Most of these shells were KE and HEAP railgun rounds, but over 2500 HACSHMs were on their way as well.However, due to the extreme range, the accuracy of the railguns could not be assured.

I'll finish this post later, RL is catching up with me
Germanische Zustande
26-08-2004, 22:47
ooc: :) I hope you don't think you can block my gravitational and quantum sensors?

Second: CF, When the missiles come, I use the shields, but hopefully HFI will have destroyed them by then.
Crazed Marines
26-08-2004, 22:55
"Admiral Duras. Our Ships are reporting that the enemy fleet is sucking them in...What should we do?"
"Have their graviton mines reverse polarity to repel our forces. Then have them regroup with us."
"Message sent!"
"Good."
The Gravtion mines then reverse polarity, repelling the CM ships and attracting themselves taround the GZ field. They surrounded the field, and automatically reversed polarity to crush the fleets like a tin can in a trash compactor. The CM ships had already slipped into warp.
"Well, it loks like the C-FTLi field generator that Corpsac lent us proved useful. They gave us an idea that we just incorporated here." Admiral Duras said
"What do you mean Admiral?"
"We got enough of a scan from the Hive, GZ, and TFU FTLi's to send a directly opposite signal to it, thus negating their FTLi fields altogether. That Counter FTLi really saved some lives today. The graviton mines are also saving lives by just crushing the Shivian and TFU fleets like a tin can."

OOC: We did post about the development of the C-FTLi's on a board we are on...its legit tech. Same with the Graviton mines. They just wear down on a shield by creating an intensely strong gravity field around a ship or fleet...goes right thru temporal and subspace shields.
Germanische Zustande
26-08-2004, 23:03
Not temporal shielding. Only temporal weapons can get through them I believe.
Al-Imvadjah
27-08-2004, 02:09
OOC you'd have to give me a description of how they (especially the quantum sensors) work before I say "yes I can".

IC
"Sir, their commanders seem to think they can deflect our rounds with gravitational fields,what should we do?"

"Let's prove them wrong, though that is about to happen anyway."

Most of the HACSHMs had adjusted for the gravitational fields and continued on toward their targets, easily passing through the GZ shields and hitting targets in all three fleets.

Strike Seagulls and Pirahnas had meanwhile moved around so as to attack from the other side of the enemy fleet, meaning that the Shivan Hunter's grav fields did not effect their HACSHMs. These were launched at the combined fleets, adding another 650 missiles to the attack. These were accompianied by Mallards and Ravens.
Germanische Zustande
27-08-2004, 02:50
ooc: I read a paper that was making the point that all matter in the universe is quantumly related. I didn't fully understand it, however, it was theorized that communications could be send via this relation. Therefore, the UFGZ can send instantaneous messages over any distance using this relation. We can also detect the matter nearest to us, in the form of vessels and missiles and particle cannons, etc...

Also, these HACSHMs... They can pass through a shield that blocks all levels of the STC, Realspace, Subspace, Hyperspace, etc, with ease? I don't think so. Also, the Shivan Hunter's grav field extends in all directions. Your ships cannot sneak around it. They would be pulled in by the field. And, if you fire on our fleet, when we have not fired on yours, we will take it as a declaration of war upon the UFGZ, and it will be you who may have caused a war between the ESUS, the UFGZ, and possibly the AoN.

Oh, and, what does HACSHM stand for?
Crazed Marines
27-08-2004, 02:57
OOC: ah, the good thing is that my mines reversed and counteracted the gravity field for the split second that it took for us to hit warp...
Also, we did not fire on your ships, we fired on the Hive and TFU ships, you just placed yourself in the line of fire. So if you declare war on us, it will be because YOU started it. We were having a private war, and then you put yourself in the line of fire...We didn't force you into it.
ESUS doesn't matter as we have ESUS members in the war as well; same with the AoN (The founders are with us. THR, co founder, is at war with HFI);
UFGZ, you placed yourself in this war, we didn;t force you to become a human shield.
Crazed Marines
27-08-2004, 03:18
OOC: Hey hive, just got to thinking, 100 million+ ships is way too many. I mean, I could see 100, or 1000, or even 100000 as reasonable. But 100 million is too much. Please scale it back, or I'll have to do something drastic...
Germanische Zustande
27-08-2004, 06:37
I was speaking to Al-Imvadjah. He's the one that fired on me. He is the one who will inevitably cause hostilities between the UFGZ, the AoN, and the ESUS. So, nothing that I said was pointed toward you.
The Fedral Union
27-08-2004, 12:13
*sighs* All right ya know what im sick and tired of it CM i want to thank you for giveing me a reason to wipe you of the face of the univers .
(btw my ships are were now ? I pulled them back from earth back to MY SPACE I dont recodnize your attack unless your raiding a supply convoy or you acauly went to were my fleet is stationed and attacked it there.... btw crazed marines i dont have to recodnize you or any one in this thread attacking me call me a god modder if i dont but that war on that guy was justifyed and if you want to be the fool and get crushsed then so be it ... you relize CM i could easly crush you .... infact i might not recondize your allies.. becuse there warmongering idiots who dont know any thing but i pwn you with my supriour tech..)
Kriegorgrad
27-08-2004, 13:49
*sighs* All right ya know what im sick and tired of it CM i want to thank you for giveing me a reason to wipe you of the face of the univers .
(btw my ships are were now ? I pulled them back from earth back to MY SPACE I dont recodnize your attack unless your raiding a supply convoy or you acauly went to were my fleet is stationed and attacked it there.... btw crazed marines i dont have to recodnize you or any one in this thread attacking me call me a god modder if i dont but that war on that guy was justifyed and if you want to be the fool and get crushsed then so be it ... you relize CM i could easly crush you .... infact i might not recondize your allies.. becuse there warmongering idiots who dont know any thing but i pwn you with my supriour tech..)

It isn't all about winning, it's not all about superiour tech, it's about RPing well and having loads of people die on each side...errr I mean...find a diplomatic solution =p And TFU, you can't really say that your invading someone and your ignoring their allies unless they have godmodded horribly.
Central Facehuggeria
27-08-2004, 14:09
And, if you fire on our fleet, when we have not fired on yours, we will take it as a declaration of war upon the UFGZ, and it will be you who may have caused a war between the ESUS, the UFGZ, and possibly the AoN.

The ESUS is this close to blowing you from the stars, what with your *unprovoked* attack on Mekanta.

*sighs* All right ya know what im sick and tired of it CM i want to thank you for giveing me a reason to wipe you of the face of the univers .
(btw my ships are were now ? I pulled them back from earth back to MY SPACE I dont recodnize your attack unless your raiding a supply convoy or you acauly went to were my fleet is stationed and attacked it there.... btw crazed marines i dont have to recodnize you or any one in this thread attacking me call me a god modder if i dont but that war on that guy was justifyed and if you want to be the fool and get crushsed then so be it ... you relize CM i could easly crush you .... infact i might not recondize your allies.. becuse there warmongering idiots who dont know any thing but i pwn you with my supriour tech..)

You try it and his allies will kill you.

I listened to HFI when he said your fleets were hiding behind his moonships.

Here's a newsflash for ya, we don't care if it was justified. And while you can cry OMG FREEFROM RP!!! I IGNORE J00!!!!, it will forever paint you as someone who can't take losses.

Plus, if you ignore Siesatia, CM et all can still just say it's space imperialism. Bam! Instant justification.

Warmongering idiots eh? In correct. And they know how to RP more things than your perfered tactic of "I PWNZOR j00!!!!" TST for instance has been RPing for quite some time. Character RPs, research RPs, TST has done it all.

Basically, you have no OOC justification to ignore anyone, mister 30,000 capital ship man. ;)
The Fedral Union
27-08-2004, 14:09
I wasint here for 7 days
so all attack prior TO me Being here are ignored all but the declration it self.
Al-Imvadjah
27-08-2004, 14:56
OOC
HACSHM: Heavy Anti-Capital Ship Homing Missile. I'm giong to have to say that it can pass through those shields (for now), because if it can't then every ship in my entire navy is practically useless because then everybody would claim to have something similar. I will say that they screwed up thier guidance systems though. Next time, they won't be able to but I'll have something designed specifically to pierce them.

I am not a part of ESUS, or the AoN, I am freelance. And I don't really give a darn about a war with UFGZ, because I could just sit at my homeworld and live peacefully by myself until you gave it up. In fact please go to war with ESUS, I could do with a good laugh, I mean this is all OOC and you appear to think IC that I am part of ESUS.
Also, CM made a good point about getting into the line of fire.

IC
The Al-Imvad fleet, having recieved no counterattacks from any of its targets, regrouped and cruised out of the system. Again, they simply went straight past any ships trying to block them. After they left the FTLi field, they jumped out of the system. They would perform a series of random preplotted jumps, seperating and reconverging through deep space and uninhabited systems for another two NS weeks before finally arriving at their concealed homeworld.
The Silver Turtle
27-08-2004, 21:50
OOC: Thanks for the compliments CF! (Not sarcastic, even if it sounded that way...there should be some way of telling if written stuff is or not)

GZ: If you're temporal shields protect your from gravitational weaponary, wouldn't that remove the effects of your shivan-hunter?
TFU:
1: You never stated anywhere you were recalling your ships. Nowhere. Ergo, we assumed they were still where you left them; near Earth
2: Though it is possible to ignore everything that has happened in this thread, it is highly likely to get you a universal ignore slapped on your forehead forevermore, seeing as how there has been no godmodding and you are merely refusing to take losses.
3: HFI stated your ships were hiding behind his moonship as CF said. We assumed that, as your ally, he would be correct.
4: You can go ahead and ignore everything since CMs declaration of war if you want, but again you have no valid reason to. Every attack has been legitimate, and no-one has tried to post your losses for you and it has merely been a valid continuation of the thread you started.

Now can we please try and get on with the RP? My fleet needs to get out of here and have a refit before going off to invade Kajal...*thanks the miracle of fluidtime*
Crazed Marines
27-08-2004, 22:30
IC:
"Admiral, sir. Home called, TFU has declared war on us!"
"HA! They never do know when to stop. We wooped them last time with a fleet a hundreth this size. We were about to use a new virus as well. Well, send our homeland a message. Tell them, 'We are on our way as soon as we evacuate the civillians. We wish to protect them on the M1X-328 colony. We will return home and work with the 2nd, 6th, and 7th fleets. Also order all spacedocks to maximum capacity. We need more ships.' After that message, send a message to all GDA members to tell them of this war and that we wish assistance. Make sure they know that TFU has declared war on us and they will get spoils proportional to their assistance."
"Right away sir."
The Admiral then whispered to himself, "Well TFU, you better bring it because hell's about to reign down on you."
Crazed Marines
28-08-2004, 02:06
"Sir, all civilians who wish to leave have boarded our ship."
"Thank you. All ships, set in a course for home. Maximum warp."
"Aye Admiral, all ships to make the jump in 5...4...3...2..well made...warp!"
The fleets entered a gravitywell/wormhole and went over 20 times SoL. They arrived at Crazed Marines within the hour. They then flew by the spacedocks, running on full automatic, making ships like a banshee for the war to come. The men had seen nothing like it before, and few would know how important these docks were to a concerted effort.
Germanische Zustande
28-08-2004, 08:08
TST: The Shivan Hunter is only operating under Phase and Standard Shielding. It will only briefly hide in Temporal Shielding when weapons come near it, and then lower the shields again and resume the Grav field.
Japanese States
28-08-2004, 09:34
OOC: this is CorpSac if anyone wants to know, i cant be bothered to log out and log back in as CorpSac so meh

IC:

outside the system the 1st High fleet (http://s7.invisionfree.com/BIA_World_Factbook/index.php?showtopic=38) entered, tho it didnt have the flag ship the DESC Crow Da it had the newest vessals as the flagships the DESC Alpha nad the DESC Beta the Lucifer Class Heavy Cruisers.
Admiral Valkyrie sat on the Bridge of the Alpha "activate the Fussion Reactors and Anti matter reactor and shut down the Hyperspace Tap Reactor" he ordered "and open a Comm with the Lead AoN ship".
"aye Sir" the Comm officer replyed "level 5 Encryption and tight beam Comm opened" the officer turned to the admiral as he sead it.
"Antention AoN i advise you to join our side with your expanstion your space is not as well protected as it would be and i have relayed targets to TFU space command who im shore has sent to his allies. you may also like to know that the 2nd and 4th high Fleets are postioned in hyperspace outside Targeted systems of the Gronde Empire as well as the HST Cannon, join ourside to crush the Crazed Marine empire or face the FULL wrath of the Dark empire you have only ever felt a small taste" the comm was cut off.
the fleet moved in slowly, noone but TFU and allies new that the Dark empire was supporting them and thats how Valkyrie wanted it.
"no ship is to target ANY ESUS member ships any ship that does will be fired apon by the fleet, charge forward Reflex cannons antivate Hyperspace Bubble shields and Charge all weapons, Passively target all CM and AoN ships and openly target USF ships and Hive vessals i want the masqurade to stand that we are here to attack TFU" he barked
"aye sir" was heared across the bridge, the orders were replyed to the other ships in the fleet. the ships crossed into the FTLi field and the HSB shields droped, Valkyrie expected it and ordered standard shields to rise.
the Fleet split into the 2 battle groups one moveing to the left flank of the CM ships the other to the Right Flank still seeming to be heading to TFU and co ships and still had a lock on them.

fighters luanched over 2000 fighter went out mainly Firewing Mk VIII and MK X, with a few 100 Endor bombers and 14 Dogma's (7 with bomber load out and 7 with fighter load out). the Domga's, followed by a Echo and 2 Tigerclaw destroyers moved out of the FTLi and entered hyperspace exiting on the otherside of the system, moveing in fast behind the TFU ship, followed by a Echo class and 2 Tigerclaw Destroyers that had followed them.

OOC:
Stats on the Lucifers:

the Lucifer was the first ship to use new Technolagys as a test bed for meny thing the Empire recived and devloped one such thing was the Reflex Cannon recived from the Mekanta Empire. After the steel empire sent Engineers and allowed our people to have naps after long work hours on studieing and makeing Reflex cannons our people finalily got the basics on how to make the weapons. Well the R&D boys and girls at CorpSac corporation had a field day when they won the contract to make the ship, the decieded that as it was a test bed for Reflex weapons they might as well test the new Hyperpsace Bubble shields.
Hyperspace Bubble Shields were based on the Shivan Subspace shields, tho the only problem was that HSB shields ment a ship couldnt fire at all when they were up and could only take 150% more points of damage then Hard shields, even tho it channeled alot of the energy into Hyperspace a high powered weapon with a consent bombardment would bring the shields down in a matter of minutes. So to compensate for this they added 2 Hard shield generators and a Energy/Ray shield generator.
weapons for the ship were rather simple and a new missile systems that even tho was exposed was rather well armored and shielded.

Stats:
Length:- 2.7Km
Width:-
from Wing tip to Tip:- 1.8Km
Width of forwards section:- 1.2Km
Width of Rear Section:- 1.4Km
hight:-
Forward Section:- 900m
Rear Section:- 1Km
Bridge to Bottom:- 1.09 Km
Mass:- *not shore*

Weapon systems:-
2 forward mounted Reflex Cannons (power still to be determined as im still talking to Mekanta)
1 Twin Heavy Plasma Bolter turret Mk2 (360/180 Decree Arch postioned forward underside)
2 Heavy Plasma Cannons (Fix forward Mounted)
2 Twin Heavy Ion Beam Cannon Turrets (top wing mounted 360/45 Decree Arch)
2 Twin Medium Plasma turrets (rear mounted 360/180 Decree arch)
216 Swarm Missile Tubes (2 108 Swarm Missile Racks (underwing mounted forward arch))
4 Fussion Torpedo tubes (forward Mounted)
2 Anti Matter Torpedo Tubes (Forward Mounted)
1 Hyperspace Tear Torpedo Tube (Forward Mounted)
6 Pulse Plasma bolters Mk2 (360/180 decree Arch, top mounted forward section)
4 Pulse Ion cannons (360/180 Decree Arch, Top mounted Rear)
4 Pulse Plasma Bolter Mk2 (360/180 Decree Arch, Underside Mounted forward section)
2 Pulse Ion cannons (360/180 Decree Arch, Underside Mounted forward section)
6 Pulse Plasma Bolter Mk2 (360/180 Decree Arch, Underside Mounted Rear section)
3 Pulse Ion cannons (360/180 Decree Arch, Underside Mounted Rear section)

fighter Hanger (2 Forward Hanger topside):-
7 Dogma Class Heavy Fighter/Bomber
7 Panther Class Assult Dropships
14 Firewing Mk VIII

Crew:
Officers:- 150
Hanger Crew:- 200
Other:- 1,000 (maintinace, Bridge crew, engineering etc)
total:- 1,350

Ground Forces:-
Combat AIs:- 160
Marines:- 320

Defences:-
Armour:- 10-13 meters ECM and ESW
Struture:- Endor Steel
Shields:
Hyperspace bubble shields
2 Hard shields
Partical/Ray shields
PDS:- Mk 3

Reactors:-
Main:-
1 Hyperspace Tap Reactor

Backup Reactors:-
2 Fusion Reactors (power out put= 1*10^15 Joule per. Kilogram each)
1 Anti matter Reactor (power out put= 9*10^16 Joule per. Kilogram each)


Stats on Dogma fighters

The dogma HF/B is a first in the empire with a Hyperspace Jump engine, the Micro Jump engine is still experental (a 30% chance that it will explode...what funding low) but is able to enter hyperspace. this fighters Power surpply is a first useing a Micro Hyperspace Tap Reactor (what has a 70% chance to explode...for the same reasons as the reason of the MJE) that give the fighter all the power it needs to go faster then light, along with this power its weapons and ion/partical trust engines.
The Armor is thick by fighter standard at 9.6 centimeters endor crystal mesh and the struture of Endor Steel makeing this vary heavy and unable to fly in atmosphere effectively.
the fighter has mutiply armerments, standard for fighter config is 1 twin Plasma Bolter (60mm) 20 dagree arch of fire, 4 Mini Fussion missiles, 1 torpedo (fussion or anti matter), 4 Inbuilt ion pulse guns and 2 mini antimatter missiles.
for Bomber config standard is 1 twin plasma bolter (60mm) 20 dagree arch of fire, 2 Torpedos (fussion or Anti matter), 4 Anti matter bombs (1 Kg each), 4 Anti Cap ship Missiles (fussion only).

STATS:
Length:- 17.5 Meters
width:- 9.3 Meters
Hight:- *working on*
Mass:- *working on*
Weapons Configs:-

Fighter standard:- 1 twin Plasma Bolter (60mm) 20 dagree arch of fire, 4 Mini Fussion missiles, 1 torpedo (fussion or anti matter), 4 Inbuilt ion pulse guns and 2 mini antimatter missiles.

Bomber Standard:- 1 twin plasma bolter (60mm) 20 dagree arch of fire, 2 Torpedos (fussion or Anti matter), 4 Anti matter bombs (1 Kg each), 4 Anti Cap ship Missiles (fussion only).

Power Plant:- 1 MHST 4 Advanced Micro Fussion battire (2 backup)
FTL: 1 Micro Jump engine
Acel: 1.0 Km/s
Duration:- 7 hours (4 hours with fussion battires)
Crew:- 1-2


CM you have no idea that im going to attack you so unless AoN ship warn you befor i get there i will ignore any "my ships turn to face CorpSac ships and open fire", since i declared war on TFU you would assum that im here to help, CF should know im not going to shot there ships and im shore they wont shot at me.
The Silver Turtle
28-08-2004, 13:00
OOC: So basically CS, you're attacking me (and perhaps AI)? *wishes he had the time to finish the ESUS joining test*
Well, I need my fleet largely intact, so I'm running away.
IC:
General O'Neill looked on as the other fleet arrived.
"Excellent! Another fleet to kill TFU."
"Yes sir, it would appear that way."
"Well, I don't think we'll be needed around here any longer in that case. And The Great Ineffable Bob will be wanting every fleet nice and shiny for his tour of The Seven Systems, so we'd better get back and get these plasma burns scraped off and a new paint job done."
"Sounds like a plan sir."
All Ineffable ships fall back to defensive formation and then the fleet is to move to the edge of the system. Once there we will slipstream to the Seven Systems.

Within five minutes, the Ineffable fleet had disappeared, leaving nothing behind but a few pieces of floating debris and some inactive mines and missiles awaiting any enemy to stray within their kill zone.
Crazed Marines
28-08-2004, 16:20
OOC: Corpsac, my guys are back home, they left this system in my last post.
IC: "Commandant! All minefields are set. No ship could enter without permission. We have sprayed enough stuff out there to destroy five fleets and be ready for more."
"Good. I want all of our eyes and ears open. Anyone could be our enemy. I just hope the GDA comes to our aid..."
"We all do, sir."

The Commandant then began to walk around the command post and whispered, "I hope that we hide all the civilians in time...This may turn to be a pyrhic victory for us all...that's it!"
"Ensign!" he screams, "Order the 3rd fleet to TFU space, tell them to hold the homeworlds ransom. If they don't comply, glass everything in sight!"
"Aye sir!"
"Well TFU, let's see how much you want to defeat us..."
The Fedral Union
28-08-2004, 16:38
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352341&page=3

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=347895

That should say it all this war is nothing more but for imprluim
CornixPes II
28-08-2004, 16:41
If he is attaCKED WE WILL NUKE YOU.

LOL.
Crazed Marines
28-08-2004, 16:47
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352341&page=3

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=347895

That should say it all this war is nothing more but for imprluim

1) What's that last word?
2) What does that sentence mean?
3) Do you have Microsoft word on your computer?
4) If yes to #3, could you please run your posts thru the spell checker?
Central Facehuggeria
28-08-2004, 16:55
1) What's that last word?
2) What does that sentence mean?
3) Do you have Microsoft word on your computer?
4) If yes to #3, could you please run your posts thru the spell checker?

Last word=Imperialism.
He's trying to say that this war is only over imperialism, not any fight for freedom or any of that stuff.

And he's right. This is indeed a war over imperialism. It's a war over Federal Imperialism.
Al-Imvadjah
28-08-2004, 17:47
OOC
CS, as I said to GZ, going to war with me is a fool's errand. I have only one planet, and I have enough transort ships to move my entire population to another one with no difficuloty whatsoever. Another nice result of me having only one planet is that my fleet is nicely concentrated, meaning that an attack on Nonistan would be stupid. The final thing is that I am the only nation who knows where Nonistan is, you'd have a hell of a tme finding me. Also, there are no random outposts for you to attack, so your whole war against me (if you are against me) would be your ships searching in vain to find me.
Oh, and my fleet is gone from the system, so you couldn't hit me here.
Japanese States
28-08-2004, 22:35
OOC
CS, as I said to GZ, going to war with me is a fool's errand. I have only one planet, and I have enough transort ships to move my entire population to another one with no difficuloty whatsoever. Another nice result of me having only one planet is that my fleet is nicely concentrated, meaning that an attack on Nonistan would be stupid. The final thing is that I am the only nation who knows where Nonistan is, you'd have a hell of a tme finding me. Also, there are no random outposts for you to attack, so your whole war against me (if you are against me) would be your ships searching in vain to find me.
Oh, and my fleet is gone from the system, so you couldn't hit me here.

not really thanks to Mekanta my Lucifers have 2 Vary powerful Weapons on them plus if i jumped my Mothership a FTLi field would form around your planet and most of the system makeing FTL traval impossible with in its field (well near impossible). moveing your entire population takes alot of time and doing so makes a big targets for my fighters and Corvettes. and then your planet well i would make short work of that fire say 2 HST torpedos at it drop the FTLi in a area around he planet let a HST form and well no more planet (or i could just fire 2 SHRC rounds at it (since 1 round can knock a planet of orbit, Go though it and more nasty damage to the planet just think what 2 would do). also your fleet being concentrated means east pray i jump in say half my grand fleet ativated the FTLi and surrounded you your screwed since my ships were designed for Short and Long Range combat. besides witch no planet is impossible to find, if your people have thoughts i can find you (aslong as my Tracker Psi's have heared you befor lol or elce its like looking for bin ladin so hard my people's heads hurt and give up
Al-Imvadjah
28-08-2004, 22:44
Then it's a good thing we're not at war then.
Crazed Marines
29-08-2004, 19:51
New war thread
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6901435