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Islamic Unity, All Muslim Nations Need To Unite Into One Nation!

Al-Amarah
17-08-2004, 20:50
Asalamu-Wa-Lakium-Wa-Rahmatillahi-Wa-Barakhatu,

Dear All Islamic Nations of the World Brothers and Sisters,

We compose this message to make an appeal to the Islamic world to come together and unite into one Ummah and re-establish dignity among the Islamic world and become strong once again and not have to bow down to the America and the West. First we need to consider some things. Nationalism is an idea from the West. Nationalism and Patriotism divides us and dose not unite us. What do you get when you die for your country, other than really selfish reasons. Your country stays in this life and you are really risking your own life for somebody else's benefit. However when you die for the cause of Allah the reward is much more and carries on with you to the next life. We need to get the idea of nationalism, flags, passports, visas, and border disputes out of our heads and come together under the cause of Islam and the belief in Allah. We need to ban visas and the use of passports with travel among our citizens and should be able to see our great nations without these worries. We need to come under one flag with the saying of THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMED IS HIS MESSANGER! We need to bring back a great Islamic Ummah like we had back in the time of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), Abu Baker Al-Sadiq, Omar Al-Kutab, and Saladin who kicked the Crusaders out of Jerusalem. At one time the Islamic Empire conquered all of Spain, from the Spanish coast all the way up to the borders of China and further within. Let us bring back these glorious days. The last true Islamic government in the Middle East and for the point the world was the great Ottoman Empire, which lasted for centuries, only until they fell apart after the First World War. I mean the Ottomans were fighting the British, British allies, Italians, Greeks, the revolting Arabs, and the Russians. The so called Lawerence of Arabia only went to Arabia to persue and secure British interests in the Middle East, they did not care about the Arab rights. Really the Arabs did not have it bad under the Ottomans. It was them who brainwashed their minds and posioned their minds with their own made nationalism to fight their Muslim brothers. Who made the Arab Revolt Flag? who helped make many of the current Arab flags we have today? The British that is who and other superpowers of the world of the time. There were also some Arabs from Palestine fighting the Ottomans, which were very stupid to do so, it only lead up to their inevitable future. Also not to mention that Arabs and many of the Muslim nations were caught in a power struggle between America and the Soviet Union for decades and their influcence. stooped. With Islamic Unity only then will we bring justice to Palestine, to Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, and other places in the world where Muslims are living under oppression. Arab Unity dose not work, again an idea of nationalism. For example the United Arab Republics, composed of Egypt, Syria, Libya, Sudan, and Iraq. It all fell apart because of lack of trust amongest each other and their own differences and ideas of Arab Unity. The Federation of Arab Republic, proposed by Gaddafi, an alliance between Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, and Syria. It also fell apart for the same reasons. Also the Baath part in Iraq and Syria. All working towards a united Arab nation. At the end of the day Hafiz Al Assad and Saddam were bitter rivals and enemies over control and influence over the political party. Finally the Arab League. Where where they for Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon during the Israeli invasion? Here are the main examples about Arab Unity and why they do not work. Islamic Unity dose work. For example at the Masjid, you will pray next to someone regardless of their race, colour, and their ideas which you do not agree on. This is the ultimate example. When we unite we are considered as all equals and no one has more power over the other free from corruption. Representative from all of the Islamic world. We must come together and for the nation and empire of THE UNITED ISLAMIC EMIRATES based on this very idea. Let us bring an end of Zionist oppression and American + Western imperalism. Let us hear your thoughts. Inshallah this is more than an idea and a dream but is a reality.

President Manuel Omar Hussien Montez
The United Islamic Theocracy of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!!
FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA!!!!
Al-Amarah
21-08-2004, 19:36
Greetings to all who view this message,

If you would like it would really help if you could reply to this message and give us some feedback and please give your reactions to the idea. Come on! Dose it really take that long to write a few sentances.

President Omar Jaber Alansari
The United Islamic Theocracy of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!
FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA!!!
Ottoman Khaif
21-08-2004, 19:41
I support you!
Transoxiana
22-08-2004, 03:42
Peace be upon His Excellency, President Alansari,

My Sultan, Padishah Rukh of the Timurid Derebeg dynasty, sends his best greetings to Your Excellency. He would like to inform Your Excellency that he finds your words most interesting.

It is clear that in many parts of the world our fellow Muslim believers suffer persecution and injustice. Your call for unity among all the Muslim faithful, and for the restoration of the Islamic ummah, is certainly admirable.

The Timurid Sultanate of Transoxiana must therefore agree, Your Excellency, that Muslims the world over must come together and build strong ties of friendship and cooperation. We are currently striving for just such a goal.

Perhaps Your Excellency would be interested in sending a delegation to the Heartland Islamic Conference (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350314)? We are hosting the conference in order to discuss the issues and challenges facing Muslims, and input from Al-Amarah would be most welcome.

Your humble servant,
Temel Beg
Minister Plenipotentiary and Acting Foreign Minister
Al-Amarah
23-08-2004, 16:18
To our dearest brothers and sisters of the Timurid Sultanate of Transoxiana,

We really appreciate and thank you for your reply. One thing that we must tell you. We are all considered equals in the eyes of Allah, so there is no need for you to say your excellency and consider yourself a slave. We are all slaves, slaves of Allah the almighty. I am no better than you or than anyone. We all share the same ideas in our heart, but we must tell the world. What we did. However may Allah reward you for all of your efforts and for your kindness. May Allah bess and defend your Sultan and I wish him all of the best. Inshallah we will send a delegation to the Heartland Islamic Conference delivering our ideas about Islamic Unity.

Your brother,
President Omar Hussein Jaber Alansari
United Islamic Federation of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!
JUSTICE AND FREEDOM FOR IRAQ!!!
Dimmimar
23-08-2004, 16:22
Dimmimar finds this quasi-alliance of Fanatacists, idiots and racial bigots amusing. Do you really know what Islam is? Or do you twist it to your own means, constantly killing and maiming in the name of "Allah" the almighty?

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Al-Amarah
23-08-2004, 16:23
Thank you for your support Ottoman Khaif. We hold the Ottoman Empire and our Ottoman heritage deep within our hearts. Please if you would like to support us even more, please tell other Islamic nations about this idea and for them to post their own feedback.

Very Respectfully,
Your Brother,
President Omar Hussein Jaber Alansari
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 16:31
Dimmimar finds this quasi-alliance of Fanatacists, idiots and racial bigots amusing. Do you really know what Islam is? Or do you twist it to your own means, constantly killing and maiming in the name of "Allah" the almighty?

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs
i completely agree with dimmimar:)
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 16:35
Let us bring an end of Zionist oppression and American + Western imperalism.
oooohhhh... you're one of those.
tell me, do you accept the fact that there are muslims that don't share your views, who think that Jews and the west are not evil murdering imperialists???
Al-Amarah
23-08-2004, 16:41
Dimmimar finds this quasi-alliance of Fanatacists, idiots and racial bigots amusing. Do you really know what Islam is? Or do you twist it to your own means, constantly killing and maiming in the name of "Allah" the almighty?

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Is that so Dimmimar. Sure you are entitled to your opinions and thoughts. But please explain yourself. Open your mind a little :headbang: Why are we idiots, Fanatacisits, and Racial Bigots? Whatever that means. The question of the matter is do YOU even know what Islam is. Did you even take any time to read our message fully or did you just do a half-baked job and skimmed it, of course you did. Tell me have you ever been to the Middle East before and see a Islamic way of life? Do you know anything else besides what you see on the TV and on the media, which in most cases is control by the Zionist Jews, you are only getting a small perspective of Islam. Even in your own religion you have your own extremists, fanatics, etc. How about taking your head out of the gutter. It is obvious that you have never been outside of the Western world. I will tell you the real thing, the real terrorists are sitting in the White House. Maybe if you had see your neghbiour's house bombed by a US bomber which had no military targets in them at all, then you would get a taste of truth. Hey you shoud see the film Ferinheight 9/11, or however you spell it. That will give you a taste of truth, that is if you are smart and open minded enough to do so. So please explain your viewpont, come on man, lets talk. Also do not even dare to try anything with us, it will be a big mistake on your part.

Have a nice Day.
President Omar Hussein Jaber Alansari
THE UNITED ISLAMIC FEDERATION OF AL-AMARAH
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!
FREEDOM, LIBERATION, AND JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
Al-Amarah
23-08-2004, 16:45
Yo Sanctaphrax,

Of course we do Sanctaphrax. But those who do not, are not seeing the truth and what they are doing to us. Maybe give us some of your insight and why you think we are the enemy.
Omicron Alpha
23-08-2004, 16:45
Hey you shoud see the film Ferinheight 9/11, or however you spell it. That will give you a taste of truth

Eh? :confused:

Wait, is that a joke? I don't get it :confused:
Dimmimar
23-08-2004, 16:45
OOC:
By the way, you are bordering on RL flamebait now. This is a board for NS actions, not RL ones......
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:00
[QUOTE=Al-Amarah] Tell me have you ever been to the Middle East before and see a Islamic way of life? Do you know anything else besides what you see on the TV and on the media, which in most cases is control by the Zionist Jews, you are only getting a small perspective of Islam. Maybe if you had see your neghbiour's house bombed by a US bomber which had no military targets in them at all, then you would get a taste of truth.

where do i start???
i have been to the middle east... I live there, i'm an Israeli Jew and proud of it. the TV and media aren't controlled by the Jews, they are all anti-semitic.
we have friends whose son was left with a bullet lodged in his spine after getting shot by a Hamas activist, he was on the border of death for a week. we have friends who had family killed as the result of suicide bombers, they didn't hit soldiers either, they hit and killed two eight year olds. is that justice???
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:06
Yo Sanctaphrax,

Of course we do Sanctaphrax. But those who do not, are not seeing the truth and what they are doing to us. Maybe give us some of your insight and why you think we are the enemy.
I don't see musilims as the enemy. i see them as potential friends. These muslims who do not agree with the suicide bombers live in Israel and they are happy. People like you represent a minority and i hope you will forever remain so. would you ever accept a peace treaty with Israel???
Reptiliador
23-08-2004, 17:10
which in most cases is control by the Zionist Jews

Hey Al, I hope you can take as good as you give. We'd love to give you filthy Muslims a little gift.
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:13
Hey Al, I hope you can take as good as you give. We'd love to give you filthy Muslims a little gift.
that was uncalled for, calm down.
Bilat al Sham
23-08-2004, 17:19
they do not have an idea of anything :sniper:
if they were not so completely closed and would read the quran...but what am i saying.

and still i cannot totally agree with sanctaphrax. the media is not all that antisemitic. and it is a fact that the conditions the palestinians have to suffer in the territories, chechnya and afghanistan are bad. but (i have some idea about the territories, so i will only speak about these) this is due to their own leadership.

allahu akbar and god save israel

and now stop this ot thread.
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:26
they do not have an idea of anything :sniper:
if they were not so completely closed and would read the quran...but what am i saying.

and still i cannot totally agree with sanctaphrax. the media is not all that antisemitic. and it is a fact that the conditions the palestinians have to suffer in the territories, chechnya and afghanistan are bad. but (i have some idea about the territories, so i will only speak about these) this is due to their own leadership.

allahu akbar and god save israel

and now stop this ot thread.
have you ever watched BBC news???
the palestinians do suffer in the territories but it is unfair to blame Israel for that.
the west send billions of dollars each year but it all goes to Arafat instead of to the people so i agree with you on that point.
Nokiarabia
23-08-2004, 17:27
We need to bring back a great Islamic Ummah like we had back in the time of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), Abu Baker Al-Sadiq, Omar Al-Kutab, and Saladin who kicked the Crusaders out of Jerusalem.

War!

At one time the Islamic Empire conquered all of Spain, from the Spanish coast all the way up to the borders of China and further within. Let us bring back these glorious days.

War!!


President Manuel Omar Hussien Montez
The United Islamic Theocracy of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!!
FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA!!!!

And death to all non-believers!
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:29
War!



War!!



And death to all non-believers!
you should open your mind slightly more i think:headbang:
Nokiarabia
23-08-2004, 17:34
we have friends who had family killed as the result of suicide bombers, they didn't hit soldiers either, they hit and killed two eight year olds. is that justice???

No, that is Islam.
Bilat al Sham
23-08-2004, 17:36
have you ever watched BBC news???
the palestinians do suffer in the territories but it is unfair to blame Israel for that.
the west send billions of dollars each year but it all goes to Arafat instead of to the people so i agree with you on that point.

i know you have some unbalanced news - but still. there is some diversity in the western media.
and! (for this you will hate me ;) ) i strongly believe that israel has the full! responsibility for what is going on at least in these parts of the territories where it retains control. it is to easy just to blame arafat.
is this not (despite the demographic issue) one of the reasons, why israel bulids this wall and wants to get out of gaza?
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 17:51
i know you have some unbalanced news - but still. there is some diversity in the western media.
and! (for this you will hate me ;) ) i strongly believe that israel has the full! responsibility for what is going on at least in these parts of the territories where it retains control. it is to easy just to blame arafat.
is this not (despite the demographic issue) one of the reasons, why israel bulids this wall and wants to get out of gaza?
Israel should take no responsibility because the territories are not their responsibility, they are under Arafats control and it's his job to look after them, it's his duty to decide where the money goes. they get 3Bn dollars a year from Syria alone, you think that that kind of money would go unnoticed???
Israel built the wall to keep out suicide bombers and are pulling out of Gaza as a gesture of goodwill in the hope that a treaty will follow.
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 19:45
No, that is Islam.
i'm glad that i know that people like you don't represent the views of Islam.
Khorsan
23-08-2004, 22:12
We are the main representive voice for Al-Amarah, who has gone away for a while. Wow, we can now see that we are surrounded by a bunch of Zionist Jews. Hey Sanctaphrax, Peace with Israel there is no such thing. Why is Israel now making more settlements in the West Bank?, why is Israel continuing to impose curfews at night?, why is Israel using their Apache helicopters to bomb houses at night? Finally why is Israel continue to violate Lebanese Airspace everyday? The list can go on. Also the so called defence barrier. You people are basically building your own version of the Berlin Wall, cutting people of from their homes, schools, villages, and work. Making it even harder to get across the land, even with those checkpoints. There is really no such thing as an Israeli anyway. Sharon is originally from Poland. At the checkpoints, most of the military and police are foregin and Russian Jews. You all got driven out of Palestine by the Romans, and fled. Now thousands of years later you claim right to the land. That means the British can claim back the eastern United States. Also there was always a land called Palestine, Philistina, haven't you ever heard of that?
also about the border checkpoints. You have foregin soldiers and police manning all of the checkpoints. Most Palestinains can speak more Hebrew than them, they know the procedures more then them, they know their way around the occupied territories more than them. This is how you rate your selves. The Ethiopian Jews are the most expendable. The comes the Yemni Jews. Higher than them comes the Jews already settled in Palestine. Then on top of the list is the rich and powerful Jews, from America and Eastern Europe who got all the power and influence.
Also Sanctaphrax, your story with Hamas. That is daily with Palestinians. One Million Palestinains can be killed and no one will hear or bother to care about it. But if a few Jews get hurt and killed it is a big deal and an act of terrorism. So do not tell me of a painful story. I have witnessed women Israeli police strip in front of Intifada boys trying to distract them so the Israeli soldiers and get clear shots at them. A Israeli tank drove right through a Palestinian home, because it was in the way of the highway. Israeli tanks have also run over little boys going to the market. You cowards do not even bother to get out of the tanks and fight. It is really fun doing turkey shoots at the soldiers from rooftops. The soldiers run for cover and call in the helicopters and tanks. Yeah real warriors. Also have you people ever heard of Sabra-Shatila, where you and you Christian allies murdered all of those innocent women and children at night. So do not tell me about violence.
Also why are there so many newly immigrated Jews from America leaving Israel? Not such an ideal place to live is it. Why is suicide the number one killer among Israeli soldiers?
All that I have to tell you people is that no matter where you go you will never be safe. Israel will never know the meaning of stability, as long as you continue the violence and human rights abuses. You all are a bunch of cowards and pussies. Israel is going down soon. Death to Israel :sniper:
Your days are numbered.
See ya.

Sharon :mp5: :mp5:

JUSTICE AND FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE!!!
PALESTINE FOREVER!!!!
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!! LONG LIVE PALESTINE!!!!
Reptiliador
23-08-2004, 22:22
Death to Israel

Just a mild suggestion: Eat shit and die covered in pig grease.
Reptiliador
23-08-2004, 22:28
that was uncalled for, calm down.

What's uncalled for is savage, uncivilized, terrorist Muslims killing innocent people, the world over. It's what they specialize in....what they do best. The world would be better off without them.
USRR
23-08-2004, 22:29
Comrade Staling salutes you for being nuttier than the nuttiest in the whole of the USRR!
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 22:44
What's uncalled for is savage, uncivilized, terrorist Muslims killing innocent people, the world over. It's what they specialize in....what they do best. The world would be better off without them.
i do not believe that all muslims are like that, we have friends who are muslims.
However people like the idiot Khorsan, i agree with you. they will never change their minds no matter what the evidence. so sit tight and i'll alert the mods on our racist friend.
The Islamic Liberation
23-08-2004, 22:45
We support this alliance.
Xeraph
23-08-2004, 23:23
i completely agree with dimmimar:)


And I and the Xeraphian people agree with the both of you.

Radical Islam is nothing more than an excuse for thugs and criminals to attempt to take what doesn't belong to them.

Xeraph and it's allies have a 100% success rate in curtailing and correcting this creeping problem of terroristic scum.

If there is any nation out there who wishes aid in defending themselves against these morons, just contact us. We'll be there for you.

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)
Sanctaphrax
23-08-2004, 23:29
Radical Islam is nothing more than an excuse for thugs and criminals to attempt to take what doesn't belong to them.
(XF)
Radical Islam is but they are only a minority. don't go putting that label on all Muslims because they aren't all like that, however people like Khorsan are.
Iakeokeo
23-08-2004, 23:58
Asalamu-Wa-Lakium-Wa-Rahmatillahi-Wa-Barakhatu,

Dear All Islamic Nations of the World Brothers and Sisters,

We compose this message to make an appeal to the Islamic world to come together and unite into one Ummah and re-establish dignity among the Islamic world and become strong once again and not have to bow down to the America and the West. ....

President Manuel Omar Hussien Montez
The United Islamic Theocracy of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!!
FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA!!!!

Hmmmm... If you are all of the same "nation" and culture, then the people of the tiny island nation of Iakeokeo wish you well in your efforts.

If, on the other hand, you are not of the same "nation" and culture, which I suspect is the case, then you can only succeed by oppressing your various "families" ("nations") into unity by force, which we can not support.

Is it not said, probably by your wise one, that dignity comes from the individual, and is the responsibility of each of us to MAKE for ourselves?

Is it not said, somewhere, that the great old one that made us all will do the great works, and that our job is to make the world a better place for our own families?

Is it not said, that if you can do a thing, and you think it is right, then you should do it, but if you think it is wrong, you should not do it?

If these others that you implore to join you find it to be a wrong thing, will you fight them as you would do your "oppressors"?

If so, then they are not your family, and should be left to their own "nation" and culture.

Better yourselves, and show the world you are a great a good people, and your minds will be less angry and distraught.

Peace to you.


-Keiki'olu I'ake'oke'o
Current "Big-Diggah" and "Chief Head-Whompah"

"May prosperity and freedom from silly rules be your destiny..!"
IDF
24-08-2004, 00:19
We condemn this alliance and if any actions are taken members will be destroyed.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 00:22
We condemn this alliance and if any actions are taken members will be destroyed.
Sanctaphrax also strongly condenms this Alliance as it is founded by extremists and should not be allowed to exist.
Sanctaphrax will back IDF in any action taken.
IDF
24-08-2004, 00:33
Sanctaphrax also strongly condenms this Alliance as it is founded by extremists and should not be allowed to exist.
Sanctaphrax will back IDF in any action taken.

Just a point, action will only be taken if this group acts on their words.
Neccesitie
24-08-2004, 00:35
Really, the Islamic world hasn't been great since the middle ages, with medicine and algebra... but besides that, can someone name an accomplishment post 1800 even??

They are just jealous of the west's success, and racist against Jews. It's ok, don't let them bother you.
Xeraph
24-08-2004, 02:24
Sanctaphrax also strongly condenms this Alliance as it is founded by extremists and should not be allowed to exist.
Sanctaphrax will back IDF in any action taken.

Xeraph joins with IDF and Sanctaphrax in condemning this Islamic Alliance. Any action on the part of this terrorist alliance will be met with extreme and permanent force.
The Parthians
24-08-2004, 03:06
Parthia, a Zoroastrian nation, also condemns this alliance as a group of radical extremists.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 10:22
Just a point, action will only be taken if this group acts on their words.
that's okay i know.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 10:23
Parthia, a Zoroastrian nation, also condemns this alliance as a group of radical extremists.
with all these allies it ALMOST makes you wish they'd try something:sniper:
Islamistanxx
24-08-2004, 11:05
Tell the Israelis (Who are the Invading Army) to Leave. Land wouldnt have to be given back to palestine if it wasnt taken from them in the first place backed by the rest of the world. If The Rest of The Muslim Countries had a at least one backbone (well egypt nearly did) we should apply force with extreme prejudice and take it back.

The people that feel the need to perform such acts obviously feel that this is the last straw, that they have nothing left! when someone takes the lives of all your family and invades your country and destroys your home, some people feel the need to perform such acts as they have lost reason to live and feel 'an eye for an eye' is what will give reason for their cause.

It needs to stop, but the Israelis don't want peace. So then the only thing left is to bring about the destruction of Israeli and everyone that supports them. By any means necessary.

"They survived 2,000 years of pogroms not by hitting back'' at those who hurt them through long periods of history, "but by thinking." "They invented and successfully promoted socialism, communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong, so they may enjoy equal rights with others. With these, they have now gained control of the most powerful countries and they, this tiny community, have become a world power. We (Muslims) cannot fight them through brawn alone. We must use our brains also''.

"Frustrations in the Muslim world have led to anger and rash actions, such as suicide bombing, but this did not benefit Islam and would not lead to victory We need modern weapons. We need tanks, battleships, fighter planes, knowledge of rockets. These are the weapons that can strike fear into the hearts of our enemies and defend us."
Muslim nations depended on others, including their enemies, for such weapons and received only inferior versions, making no effort to invent, design and test such weapons themselves......

"There is no magic in their superiority over us, they are mere humans like us,"

"We have to read and understand the new sciences, technologies that have contributed to the power and growth of those that are against us. We have to be patient. Over time we will become strong.....

This idea of striking fear into the hearts of enemies is part of the teachings of the Quran......"

"We are now 1.3 billion strong. We have the biggest oil reserves in the world. We have great wealth. We are familiar with the workings of the world economy and finances."

[If all this is not a battle cry to Muslims, what is it? The 57-member Organization of Islamic Conference is the world's largest Islamic body, and it consistently and every year passes resolutions that are inimical to India's interests. Please note that the Indonesian prime minister is not arguing that Indonesia should be strong, but that Muslim countries should be strong, so as to overcome the enemy, so as to achieve final victory. And what is that final victory? A totally Islamic world. Starting with the extermination of the Jews....]

The ummah is one and must act as one (Koran 3.103), placing Muslim interests above all others (Koran 9.33). Therefore, all the kafirs must go. The Jews must go. Only Muslims can protect the interests of Muslims.....] - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad.
Islamistanxx
24-08-2004, 11:10
Al-Amarah, I support you!!!
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 11:14
Al-Amarah, I support you!!!
thats three now,
you've got more condemnation than support so far.
Russian Forces
24-08-2004, 11:29
Touch chechnya and Russian Forces will bury you. Chechnya belongs to our nation. Religion is the peoples opium.
Islamistanxx
24-08-2004, 11:34
^ Thats why the Chechen mujadden defeated the Russian army? LOl
Dreadnt
24-08-2004, 11:35
It pains me greatly to see Islam being perverted in such ways that provoke statements like the one at the beginning of this thread.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 11:36
It pains me greatly to see Islam being perverted in such ways that provoke statements like the one at the beginning of this thread.
a agree with you.
people like this give Islam a bad name the world over.
Islamistanxx
24-08-2004, 11:39
a agree with you.
people like this give Islam a bad name the world over.


We don't care people like Bush give Christianity a bad name and people like Sharon just make me wanna k1ll J3w5.
England My England
24-08-2004, 11:43
i'm glad that i know that people like you don't represent the views of Islam.

Terrorism , conflict and oppression is what Islam is about.

http://www.muhajiroun.com/Deen/jihaad1/terrorism.htm

Just a little example. Look around that site, and I am sure you will be able to find some more.

Al-amarah - so long as you and all your little 'slim friends get out of my country, and the rest of Western countries, then I am more than supportive of your little unity scheme. Honestly, I don't care what you do, so long as you do it thousands of miles away from me and my people.
Greenmanbry
24-08-2004, 11:46
I think this does not belong here.. It belongs in General..

Come to think of it, it doesn't belong anywhere.. If only the mods visit II more often.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 11:57
Asalamu-Wa-Lakium-Wa-Rahmatillahi-Wa-Barakhatu,

Dear All Islamic Nations of the World Brothers and Sisters,

We compose this message to make an appeal to the Islamic world to come together and unite into one Ummah and re-establish dignity among the Islamic world and become strong once again and not have to bow down to the America and the West. First we need to consider some things. Nationalism is an idea from the West. Nationalism and Patriotism divides us and dose not unite us. What do you get when you die for your country, other than really selfish reasons. Your country stays in this life and you are really risking your own life for somebody else's benefit. However when you die for the cause of Allah the reward is much more and carries on with you to the next life. We need to get the idea of nationalism, flags, passports, visas, and border disputes out of our heads and come together under the cause of Islam and the belief in Allah. We need to ban visas and the use of passports with travel among our citizens and should be able to see our great nations without these worries. We need to come under one flag with the saying of THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMED IS HIS MESSANGER! We need to bring back a great Islamic Ummah like we had back in the time of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), Abu Baker Al-Sadiq, Omar Al-Kutab, and Saladin who kicked the Crusaders out of Jerusalem. At one time the Islamic Empire conquered all of Spain, from the Spanish coast all the way up to the borders of China and further within. Let us bring back these glorious days. The last true Islamic government in the Middle East and for the point the world was the great Ottoman Empire, which lasted for centuries, only until they fell apart after the First World War. I mean the Ottomans were fighting the British, British allies, Italians, Greeks, the revolting Arabs, and the Russians. The so called Lawerence of Arabia only went to Arabia to persue and secure British interests in the Middle East, they did not care about the Arab rights. Really the Arabs did not have it bad under the Ottomans. It was them who brainwashed their minds and posioned their minds with their own made nationalism to fight their Muslim brothers. Who made the Arab Revolt Flag? who helped make many of the current Arab flags we have today? The British that is who and other superpowers of the world of the time. There were also some Arabs from Palestine fighting the Ottomans, which were very stupid to do so, it only lead up to their inevitable future. Also not to mention that Arabs and many of the Muslim nations were caught in a power struggle between America and the Soviet Union for decades and their influcence. stooped. With Islamic Unity only then will we bring justice to Palestine, to Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, and other places in the world where Muslims are living under oppression. Arab Unity dose not work, again an idea of nationalism. For example the United Arab Republics, composed of Egypt, Syria, Libya, Sudan, and Iraq. It all fell apart because of lack of trust amongest each other and their own differences and ideas of Arab Unity. The Federation of Arab Republic, proposed by Gaddafi, an alliance between Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, and Syria. It also fell apart for the same reasons. Also the Baath part in Iraq and Syria. All working towards a united Arab nation. At the end of the day Hafiz Al Assad and Saddam were bitter rivals and enemies over control and influence over the political party. Finally the Arab League. Where where they for Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon during the Israeli invasion? Here are the main examples about Arab Unity and why they do not work. Islamic Unity dose work. For example at the Masjid, you will pray next to someone regardless of their race, colour, and their ideas which you do not agree on. This is the ultimate example. When we unite we are considered as all equals and no one has more power over the other free from corruption. Representative from all of the Islamic world. We must come together and for the nation and empire of THE UNITED ISLAMIC EMIRATES based on this very idea. Let us bring an end of Zionist oppression and American + Western imperalism. Let us hear your thoughts. Inshallah this is more than an idea and a dream but is a reality.

President Manuel Omar Hussien Montez
The United Islamic Theocracy of Al-Amarah
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
ISLAMIC UNITY TO TRIUMPTH!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!!
FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA!!!!



THE DEVIL RECITES SCRIPTURE FOR HIS PURPOSE! (Merchant Of Venice)
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 11:58
We don't care people like Bush give Christianity a bad name and people like Sharon just make me wanna k1ll J3w5.
good so now you know how i feel about that Yassin and Arafat.
BTW how does Bush represent Christianity??? surely he represents America.
Christianity would be the Pope, but not even you would would blame an 80-something, extremely ill man on your problems. again Sharon=Jews how??? Sharon is in charge of Israel, the Jewish holy land not the Jews themselves.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 12:01
MUHAMMED IS HIS MESSANGER?

Jesus said: BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS!
World wide allies
24-08-2004, 12:03
The Great Jb states of wwa officially condemns this alliance, and will aid Xeraph, IDF, and Sanctaphrax in any military action.

- wwa
Islamistanxx
24-08-2004, 12:07
Terrorism , conflict and oppression is what Islam is about.

http://www.muhajiroun.com/Deen/jihaad1/terrorism.htm

Just a little example. Look around that site, and I am sure you will be able to find some more.

Al-amarah - so long as you and all your little 'slim friends get out of my country, and the rest of Western countries, then I am more than supportive of your little unity scheme. Honestly, I don't care what you do, so long as you do it thousands of miles away from me and my people.


Look your county put the Jews in Palestine in Muslim lands, your county brought people over from India to help them rebuild england. When they were having a stupid war with Hitler witch didn't benefit anyone but Jews. So if your country "england" gets the Jews out of Palatines then hell I might just go and live their.

OH and your country England robbed the subcontinent thats why all the Indians, Pakistanis, Tamil's, Bengali's are living in England. Wait a sec didn't that BNP leader (Nick Griffin) say Sikhs and Hindus are OK (because they know how to f^ck my white ass? but Muslims are bad?

You know Hindus are the ones that will screw your country you been south-hall lately?

Oh don't mess with Muslims because one of these days you might get bats in your head like you did in Bradford. If you respect us we will respect YOU! we are not some weak race.

I have respect for your viwes becouse you have balls, but don't just blame the Muslims for messing your country-up. Blame all the Non White Arayans.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 12:17
Look your county put the Jews in Palestine in Muslim lands, your county brought people over from India to help them rebuild england. When they were having a stupid war with Hitler witch didn't benefit anyone but Jews. So if your country "england" gets the Jews out of Palatines then hell I might just go and live their.

OH and your country England robbed the subcontinent thats why all the Indians, Pakistanis, Tamil's, Bengali's are living in England. Wait a sec didn't that BNP leader (Nick Griffin) say Sikhs and Hindus are OK (because they know how to f^ck my white ass? but Muslims are bad?

You know Hindus are the ones that will screw your country you been south-hall lately?

Oh don't mess with Muslims because one of these days you might get bats in your head like you did in Bradford. If you respect us we will respect YOU! we are not some weak race.

I have respect for your viwes becouse you have balls, but don't just blame the Muslims for messing your country-up. Blame all the Non White Arayans.




I have rarely heard such a load of poppycock in all of my life! This comes from a representative of a 'religion' the children of which constantly underachieve in school and underachieve in society generally precisely because of the backwardness of their 'religion'.
Dumpsterdam
24-08-2004, 12:17
When they were having a stupid war with Hitler witch didn't benefit anyone but Jews.

Oh realy? Does CONCENTRATION CAMP ring any bells? Think hard and wise about your next words since your treading in a minefield.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 12:34
Oh realy? Does CONCENTRATION CAMP ring any bells? Think hard and wise about your next words since your treading in a minefield.
his comment is makes me want to laugh/cry i haven't decided which.
he is indeed treading in a minefield because all my great grandparents got killed in the war. any comment about WW2 WILL result in Military action by me and any who would join me. there are certain things you don't comment about and WW2 is definitely one of them.
think about your next words very carefully.
Dumpsterdam
24-08-2004, 12:39
his comment is makes me want to laugh/cry i haven't decided which.
he is indeed treading in a minefield because all my great grandparents got killed in the war. any comment about WW2 WILL result in Military action by me and any who would join me. there are certain things you don't comment about and WW2 is definitely one of them.
think about your next words very carefully.

Dumpsterdam fully support you in your actions and will make haste with preparing its forces, any further of this and we shall invade with force, no more of this or face destruction.

OoC: Sanctaphrax check your TG's, I can't respond anymore for a couple of houres.
Lord and Lady Tweedy
24-08-2004, 12:46
I really hope the situation does not arise where the British treat the Muslims in this country in the same manner as the Germans treated the Jews in Germany. Of course it is hardly likely as the British don't act like that; and, lots of the highly educated Muslims in this country are Muslim by name only, and pay lip-service to the religion for the benefit of peace and quiet. They are just as appalled at the rubbish spoken on behalf of Islam as any outsider is. But then again, many Jews in Germany were Jews just in name only.
Antenor
24-08-2004, 12:47
When they were having a stupid war with Hitler witch didn't benefit anyone but Jews.
Hey Islamistanxx how can you say that? You know it wasn't just the Jews who got persecuted by the Nazis. Blacks, disabled people and anyone else not deemed to be part of the master race received the same treatment.

You'd better be VERY careful with your response, or you'll find yourself in a lot of trouble.

Now don't get me wrong, i have no problems with Islam on the whole, but it's people like you who tend to turn things sour.
Khorsan
24-08-2004, 13:18
We have recently replaced our original nation Al-Amarah with Khorsan. Wow, I can not believe how much this has expanded. Before there were no replies with just 11 views, and look what happens when you get it know to the world. You get swamped by the Zionist Jews of the world and the trash/ignorance of the world. After my last post I can not believe how many reponses it triggered. It shows you that I have stuck a nerve with you. Also IDF, please shut your mouth if you try anything with us, we will see to it personally that you are driven into the sea and never allowed to return. You will not be allowed to escape so easily this time. I can not believe the ignorance of the world and really it just makes me laugh. It looks like this has just attracted the irgnorant wrecks and trash of the world.
I just have a few things to say. When will you British learn that you are only a shadow of what you used to be. You are now just a stooge of America. You are the ones to blame for the current Middle Eastern crisis. You promised the Kurds their own homeland, which you never gave them. You allowed the Jewish settlers into Palestine, which lead to their inevitable faifth. The list can go on.
Also why dose Russia care so much for a small country like Chechnya. All I have to tell you is that they will triumpth in the future and already you have been losing this war for 20 years.
Anyway, there is really no point of debating this with most of you because it really leads to nothing. I can can say however the most reasonable one out of all of you Zionists is Santaphrax or whatever the name is.
See ya.

President Omar Jaber Alansari
The United Islamic Federation of Khorsan
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 13:28
You get swamped by the Zionist Jews of the world and the trash/ignorance of the world. After my last post I can not believe how many reponses it triggered. It shows you that I have stuck a nerve with you. Also IDF, please shut your mouth if you try anything with us, we will see to it personally that you are driven into the sea and never allowed to return. You will not be allowed to escape so easily this time. I can not believe the ignorance of the world and really it just makes me laugh. It looks like this has just attracted the irgnorant wrecks and trash of the world.
I can can say however the most reasonable one out of all of you Zionists is Santaphrax or whatever the name is.

1) I believe you have "stuck" a nerve insulting all the Jews who got slaughtered in the war.
2) IDF wasn't the one threatening. Me and Dumpsterdam were.
3) the name is S-A-N-C-T-A-P-H-R-A-X.
4) I am a Jew not a Zionist. it is possible to be one without the other. thank you for the compliment, however i am only reasonable to those who are NOT radical extremists. i.e not you.

PR of Sanctaphrax
Dumpsterdam
24-08-2004, 14:06
We have recently replaced our original nation Al-Amarah with Khorsan. Wow, I can not believe how much this has expanded. Before there were no replies with just 11 views, and look what happens when you get it know to the world. You get swamped by the Zionist Jews of the world and the trash/ignorance of the world. After my last post I can not believe how many reponses it triggered. It shows you that I have stuck a nerve with you. Also IDF, please shut your mouth if you try anything with us, we will see to it personally that you are driven into the sea and never allowed to return. You will not be allowed to escape so easily this time. I can not believe the ignorance of the world and really it just makes me laugh. It looks like this has just attracted the irgnorant wrecks and trash of the world.
I just have a few things to say. When will you British learn that you are only a shadow of what you used to be. You are now just a stooge of America. You are the ones to blame for the current Middle Eastern crisis. You promised the Kurds their own homeland, which you never gave them. You allowed the Jewish settlers into Palestine, which lead to their inevitable faifth. The list can go on.
Also why dose Russia care so much for a small country like Chechnya. All I have to tell you is that they will triumpth in the future and already you have been losing this war for 20 years.
Anyway, there is really no point of debating this with most of you because it really leads to nothing. I can can say however the most reasonable one out of all of you Zionists is Santaphrax or whatever the name is.
See ya.

President Omar Jaber Alansari
The United Islamic Federation of Khorsan
ALLAHU-WAK-BAR!!!
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST!!!
JUSTICE FOR IRAQ!!!
JUSTICE FOR PALESTINE!!!

I'm Dutch thank you very much, also I do not generalize,

You can call me a capitalist, my reply: A what?
You can call me a communist, my reply A what?
You can call me a imperialist, my reply: A what?
You can call me a pacifist, my reply: A what?

I do not discriminate and I believe that we can live in peace with each other, if that for some reasons fails we'll put some christian SB squads loose in palastine setlements and claim that it was god that has struck them down. Doesn't sound fair eh? It isn't but people who go to war because there holy men tell them to are just abusing the writings of a otherwise great book for there own selfish purposes, look at the crusades, total misuse of the bible.
So please either shut up now or I'm going to have to use your own tactics against you.
Yerevann
24-08-2004, 14:35
Re Tweedy's statement that 'the British don't act like that'. The truth is that the British do act like that when it suits them, as anyone who has studied the British imperial history knows. The tendency to oppress others is unfortunately part of human nature and isn't confined to one nationality.

PS This isn't intended as Brit-bashing. I just thought Tweedy's post was a bit smug.
Sanctaphrax
24-08-2004, 14:37
Re Tweedy's statement that 'the British don't act like that'. The truth is that the British do act like that when it suits them, as anyone who has studied the British imperial history knows. The tendency to oppress others is unfortunately part of human nature and isn't confined to one nationality.

PS This isn't intended as Brit-bashing. I just thought Tweedy's post was a bit smug.
hi Yerevann
as a whole the Brits don't act like that, but there are always exceptions.
Antenor
24-08-2004, 15:43
You get swamped by the Zionist Jews of the world and the trash/ignorance of the world.
Right Khorsan, lets clear a few things up here:

1) I am not a Zionist
2) I am not a Jew
3) I am not trash
4) I am not ignorant

Just because i am not a Muslim and/or i am offended by what you or others say does not mean i am one or more of the above 4 things. You need to learn that not everyone agrees with what you say.

Like i said before, i have absolutely nothing against Muslims or any other religious group for that matter, so don't load your abuse on me. I want there to be peace between Jews and Muslims, and i'm not looking for an argument, so just try to get along with everyone, and let's not have a flame war.
Communist Mississippi
24-08-2004, 15:47
Dimmimar finds this quasi-alliance of Fanatacists, idiots and racial bigots amusing. Do you really know what Islam is? Or do you twist it to your own means, constantly killing and maiming in the name of "Allah" the almighty?

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs


"Well whatever they are smoking, the Christian Martyrs Brigade will be delighted to fight with them. God is great!" Bishop/General Herman Von Felben
Adulthood starts at 12
24-08-2004, 15:53
To HELL with the Zionist-Christians and the neo-imperial American/British/Israeli NEW WORLD TOTALITARIAN ORDER.

America is now the new land of the Jews, Israel is merely their synogogue. To hell with that Kite lover - Emperor Bush and his sycophant - Toady Blair. Down with the United Police States of America and its shameful scarlet whore - Britain. I hope one day they will be nuked by China and Russia for the good of the whole world.

America, Britain and their Zionist-Christian/ neo-imperialistic agenda are not only a big threat to the ISLAMIC world, they are by extension, a big threat to the WHOLE WORLD and its diverse cultures and religions. For example I even have Hindu and Russian Orthodox friends who despise America's imperialistic agenda/ neo-Zionist-(Evangelical)-Christian CRUSADE just as much as you Muslims do! You perhaps have allies.

The sun never sets in the American Empire:(
ThrillerDome
24-08-2004, 16:25
I don't see musilims as the enemy. i see them as potential friends. These muslims who do not agree with the suicide bombers live in Israel and they are happy. People like you represent a minority and i hope you will forever remain so. would you ever accept a peace treaty with Israel???

As a Muslim who's had more than a few Jewish friends over the years, I would, but Israel has to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith, and it hasn't done that since Oslo. For the most part, Israel has gone out of its way to make Palestinian life in the territories as miserable as possible.
Praetonia
24-08-2004, 17:42
LOL this is starting to look so much like general it isnt true. Now begone debaters!
Greenmanbry
24-08-2004, 17:49
I reiterate my desire to see this thread die..
Sirens of Titan
24-08-2004, 19:41
Is this a terrorist meeting or roleplay?
IDF
24-08-2004, 20:10
Seeing how these extemist seem dead serious on acting we ask them to stop this alliance now or face our wrath.

Secretary of State Ben Tallman
Myrth
24-08-2004, 21:48
This is not the forum for political discussions.


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Myrth
24-08-2004, 23:55
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