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List [Detailed versions below]:

tpsv 90 Marksman (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu129.jpg) ; $11 million.
ItO 96, BUK M1 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu135.jpg) ; $20 million.
ItO 90, Crotale NG (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu133.jpg) ; $18 million.
AA Command Center, JOKE 87 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu137.jpg) ; $19 million.
35 ItK 88 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu127.jpg) ; $22 million.

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Detailed versions:

tpsv 90 Marksman (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu129.jpg)

Use: AA fire for armoured battalions

Twin-barrel automatic AA cannon mounted on tank chassis
Calibre 35 mm
Shell weight 0.55 kg
Muzzle velocity 1,175 to 1,385 m/s
Maximum range to airborne target about 4 km
Firing rate 18 shots per second
Combined surveillance and forward observer radar, range over 10 km
Gyro-stabilized optical viewfinder
Automatic digital forward observer and calculator system
Laser rangefinder, range 8 km
Weather sensor
Smoke dischargers
T 55 tank chassis
Total system weight 41 t
Crew: 3

Price: $ 11 million.

ItO 96, BUK M1 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu135.jpg)

Use: Protection of the Capital area and other targets of national importance.

Mobile independent AA missile system
Range 35 km
Altitude range 22 km
Firing sector 360°
Missile
-Speed 1,250 m/s (3.5 Mach)
-Semi-actively homing
-Impulse fuse
-Length about 5.5 m
-Weight 690 kg
-Diameter 40 cm
-Combat charge weight 70 kg
Missile platform
-Search, surveillance and target painting radar
-Optical TV finder
-Weight with missile 35 t
Loading and launching platform
-Carrying capacity 8 missiles
Command centre
-Maximum number of targets displayed: 75
-Maximum number of targets automatically followed: 15
Surveillance and target painting radar
-Measurement altitude 25 km
-Measurement range 160 km
Internal training simulators
Internal troubleshooting

Works against cruise missiles too.

Price: $ 20 million.

ItO 90, Crotale NG (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu133.jpg)

Use: Protection of targets of national importance and of troops
Reinforcing AA systems of major operative formations

Mobile independent AA missile system
Range over 11 km
Altitude range over 6 km
8 missiles ready to fire
-Speed 1,250 m/s (3.5 Mach)
-Command steering
-Radar-triggered fuse
-Length 2.4 m
-Weight 75 kg
-Combat charge weight 13 kg
-Firing control system
-Surveillance radar, range about 20 km
-TV camera
-Heat-sensitive camera
-Infrared sensor
Vehicle location device
Sisu armoured vehicle chassis
Total system weight 23 t
Crew: 4

Price: $ 18 million.

AA Command Center, JOKE 87 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu137.jpg)

Use: Air situation data and friendly aircraft data to firing units
AA deployment data for the Air Force
Fire commands and instructions


Target painting radar 87
-Radar installation Giraffe MK IV
-Frequency band C (4 to 8 GHz)
-Variable antenna rotation speed (30 or 60 rpm)
-Surveillance altitude 4 to 5 km
-Surveillance range 75 km
-Maximum number of targets automatically followed: 20
-Antenna height 9 to 15 m
-Sisu XA-180 (Pasi) chassis
-Total weight of system: 19 t
Target location centre 87
-Two colour monitors, mounted in an all-terrain van, total weight 4.5 t
Field link station DM 15 E
Rapid field phone link system
Headquarters and communications van
Electrotechnical maintenance van
Firing station terminals

Price: $ 19 million.

35 ItK 88 (http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu127.jpg)

Use: Protection of targets of national importance

Twin-barrel automatic AA cannon
Calibre 35 mm
Shell weight 0.55 kg
Muzzle velocity 1,175 m/s
Maximum range to airborne target about 5 km
Firing rate 18 shots per second
Panning rate 3 s per 360°
Elevation rate 1.5 s per 90°
Weight of gun about 7,500 kg
Gun towed by medium all-terrain vehicle
Maximum towing speed on road 80 km/h
Forward observation device
Laser rangefinder
Power source
Section-specific forward observer radar
Gun crew: 7


Price: $ 22 million.

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Some info:

Please do your own calculations!
Discounts:
- In same region: 10%
- Ally: 20%

And feel free to ask questions about how to buy or something.

Comments? Suggestions? Anyone?

No one interested? :(

No one needs weapons to bring down airplanes?

La Habana strongly values good air defence, and credits you for offering such advanced hardware at reasonable prices. La Habana National Air Defence Forces (LHNADF) is interested in purchasing 100 "ItO 96, BUK M1" units, the cost totalling two billion US Dollars. We request that the units are camouflaged in tropical rainforest colours and camouflage netting, and the missile's maximum altitude range be increased to 40 Kilometers. The LHNADF would be willing to pay more for these modifications to be made.

La Habana strongly values good air defence, and credits you for offering such advanced hardware at reasonable prices. La Habana National Air Defence Forces (LHNADF) is interested in purchasing 100 "ItO 96, BUK M1" units, the cost totalling two billion US Dollars. We request that the units are camouflaged in tropical rainforest colours and camouflage netting, and the missile's maximum altitude range be increased to 40 Kilometers. The LHNADF would be willing to pay more for these modifications to be made.


Confirmed.

We are making those camouflages currently. And making some modifications to get max. altitude range increased to 40km.

Camouflages will be done without any extra money, but the modification will cost $1 million per unit, so that's extra $ 100 million.

And becose of the modifications, unit might be bit bigger, and missile bit heavier than original.

Please, wire the money.

Bump.

****Telefax from LasProd Procurement Department****

Sirs,

We write regarding your JOKE 87 AA command centre. We would be interest in procuring a number of these for our air defence divisions. In all we would be looking to purchase 270 of these units. However, we would like to discuss the possibility of an exchange of arms in place of an actual purchase. To this effect we would be willing to offer you products from our storefront to the value of this order, which we calculate to be in the region of $5bn. Should you be willing to do this, we advise you check our storefront at http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=347409 , where you will find a selection of products to choose from. Additionally, we would be interested in finding out what platform the JOKE 87 is based on, whether it is of a westesrn or Russian design.


We look forward to your reply.


Procurement department.

LasProd


****End of Message****

Radar and radio link manufactured in Sweden, otherwise mainly manufactured in Finland.
So it's not a Russian.

Mounted on a Pasi chassis, the target painting radar is highly mobile in terrain.
Hopefully that explains? [Ooc. Can't find more info about that. :rolleyes: ]

And actually the price is bit more than 5 billion, but we'll give discount to that. :)

And I made fast check, we have already enough of fighters & bombers, so we don't need them more. Otherwise it woulded be really good.

So we'd hope you're still interested about buying those, and wire the money.

****Telefax from LasProd Procurement Department****

Sirs,

Thank you for your swift reply. We can confirm our decision to purchase 270 of these units. Payment of $5 billion will be wired through our international bank immediately.


Procurement Department,

LasProd


****End of Telefax****



OOC: Regarding the design I was just wondering, given that Finland used to purchase soviet arms (I can remember the Finnish Air Force flew the MiG 21 for example..) plus it does pass a passing resemblence to a BDRM. I did try looking at the website you got the pic from but the English pages are actually hard to navigate and I didn't have time to get go through a Finnish dictionary!

****Telefax from LasProd Procurement Department****

OOC: Regarding the design I was just wondering, given that Finland used to purchase soviet arms (I can remember the Finnish Air Force flew the MiG 21 for example..) plus it does pass a passing resemblence to a BDRM. I did try looking at the website you got the pic from but the English pages are actually hard to navigate and I didn't have time to get go through a Finnish dictionary!

Ooc.
Yes, Finland uses pretty many Russian/Soviet arms. If you meant that. I'm pretty tired, so hardly can translate. :rolleyes:

Well, take the Equipment page. There's something. Then click one of the pictures. Then at left should be different equipments. And some info too.

Ic.
Confirmed, the units will be there in 1,5 NS years. Probably one year. [1 RL day. :) ]

Bump.

The Republic of Derion will purchase your markman AA. We will take 20 of them. Money shall be wired upon delivery conformation.

The Armed Republic of Micheal Bin Ra requires ItO 96, BUK M1 x50 will pay when have received

The Republic of Derion will purchase your markman AA. We will take 20 of them. Money shall be wired upon delivery conformation.

Confirmed. And the total is $220 million.

The Armed Republic of Micheal Bin Ra requires ItO 96, BUK M1 x50 will pay when have received

Confirmed. Your total is $1,000 million.

Money Shall Be Wired to your Bank Immediately. Thank you for your business.

Bump.

Forgive the immediate return but it has become apperant to the Republic of Derion that our current military buildup would not be sufficient for our country's defensive needs.
Therefore the Republic of Derion requests the purchase of 50 of each of your AA models. The money shall be wired upon delivery.

Two billion dollars wired, plus the extra one hundred million dollars for the required modifications.

Forgive the immediate return but it has become apperant to the Republic of Derion that our current military buildup would not be sufficient for our country's defensive needs.
Therefore the Republic of Derion requests the purchase of 50 of each of your AA models. The money shall be wired upon delivery.

Confirmed, your total will be $4,500 million.

Money Wired....now *presses button*

Thank you.

(30) tpsv 90 Marksman ; $330 million.
(10) ItO 96, BUK M1 ; $200 million.
(5) JOKE 87 ; $95 million
(10) 35 ItK 88 ; $220 million
Total: $845 million
Money will be wired upon confirmation

(30) tpsv 90 Marksman ; $330 million.
(10) ItO 96, BUK M1 ; $200 million.
(5) JOKE 87 ; $95 million
(10) 35 ItK 88 ; $220 million
Total: $845 million
Money will be wired upon confirmation

Confirmed.

Ooc. Pretty nice nation you have. Big. :rolleyes:

*money wired*

Thank you.

Bump.

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Due to a sudden increase in military funding,
Commander Antiga formally requests the purchase of:

50 Units, ItO 90, Crotale NG - $900 million.
20 Units, AA Command Center, JOKE 87 ; $380 million.

Total of $1.280b in any currentcy of your desire.
Payment will be wired on delivery and inspection of the 70 Units.

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Due to a sudden increase in military funding,
Commander Antiga formally requests the purchase of:

50 Units, ItO 90, Crotale NG - $900 million.
20 Units, AA Command Center, JOKE 87 ; $380 million.

Total of $1.280b in any currentcy of your desire.
Payment will be wired on delivery and inspection of the 70 Units.

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Confirmed.
And, our banks can change the currency later.

I will order a significant amount of AA Tanks, I am warning you of a large order, please be prepared.

Thank you,
Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu

I will order a significant amount of AA Tanks, I am warning you of a large order, please be prepared.

Thank you,
Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu

Okay, we'll prepare, and make some of them ready now.

Bump.

Bump.

The Confederacy of Marketability will take 250 ItO 90, Crotale NG 's. We will pay when we have received shipment of weapons.

We hope we have given enough time for preperation, but due to national reasons, we must order now.

tpsv 90 Marksman
Amount wanted: 10000

ItO 96, BUK M1
Amount wanted: 15000
(I also need the crew size for this)

ItO 90, Crotale NG
Amount wanted: 9000

JOKE 87
Amount wanter: 4000
(I also need the crew size for this as well.)

*money wired upon confirmation*

Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu

The Confederacy of Marketability will take 250 ItO 90, Crotale NG 's. We will pay when we have received shipment of weapons.

Confirmed, and the total will be $4,500 million.

We hope we have given enough time for preperation, but due to national reasons, we must order now.

tpsv 90 Marksman
Amount wanted: 10000

ItO 96, BUK M1
Amount wanted: 15000
(I also need the crew size for this)

ItO 90, Crotale NG
Amount wanted: 9000

JOKE 87
Amount wanter: 4000
(I also need the crew size for this as well.)

*money wired upon confirmation*

Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu


Confirmed

Buk M1 crew; Can be only one, but it's not recommended [No chances of reloading, or doing everything else].
We, Nireva, use 8 per M1.
And JOKE 87, we'd recommend 4. But less is possible.

And I suggest you to make calculations about how much it comes, so we wouldn't need to take extra money for that.

75% of units will be there on this year, 25% will be on next.

And I suggest you to make calculations about how much it comes, so we wouldn't need to take extra money for that.


Ok, Sorry :D

800 tpsv 90 Marksman $0.011b Each - $8.8b
400 ItO 96, BUK M1 $0.022b Each - $8.8b
200 ItO 90, Crotale NG $0.018b Each - $3.6b
50 AA Command Center, JOKE 87 $0.019b Each - $0.95b

Total - $22.15b

Wired upon confirmation.

25 pieces of ItO 96, BUK M1, please!

Money had been wired (500 mio $)

My regards,
defence minister F. Sizlak
The federation of Harnen

800 tpsv 90 Marksman $0.011b Each - $8.8b
400 ItO 96, BUK M1 $0.022b Each - $8.8b
200 ItO 90, Crotale NG $0.018b Each - $3.6b
50 AA Command Center, JOKE 87 $0.019b Each - $0.95b

Total - $22.15b

Wired upon confirmation.


Confirmed.

25 pieces of ItO 96, BUK M1, please!

Money had been wired (500 mio $)

My regards,
defence minister F. Sizlak
The federation of Harnen

Confirmed.

Bump.

Bump. Buy something so I don't need to bump. :rolleyes:

We hope we have given enough time for preperation, but due to national reasons, we must order now.

tpsv 90 Marksman
Amount wanted: 10000

ItO 96, BUK M1
Amount wanted: 15000
(I also need the crew size for this)

ItO 90, Crotale NG
Amount wanted: 9000

JOKE 87
Amount wanter: 4000
(I also need the crew size for this as well.)

*money wired upon confirmation*

Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu

And the total seems to be $648 billion.

Ooc. No discount becose I had to do the calculations.
Feel free to check them, I don't believe I counted right.. :rolleyes:

Bump.

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Bump.

Bump. Buy something so I don't need to do this stupid bump.

Bump.. Once again.

I need to purchase 850 of those ITO 96, BUK M1s for 17 billion.

I would like to purchase 5 ItO 96, BUK M1 units. Plesase ship them to the 10000 Islands, will pay when recived. The amount should be 100 million, US dollars. Please confirm.

I need to purchase 850 of those ITO 96, BUK M1s for 17 billion.

Confirmed.

Money has been wired.

Bump! Buy, so I don't need to bump. :)

Buump!

i am looking for about 20 AA devices to defend my country, not my army.
what can you recommend???

Skull island wishes to purchase 4 tpsv marksmans (jungle camo) and 2 itO 96 BUK M1 units (urban camo) at the calculated cost of 84 million dollars. Half of the money has been wired to your account and the other half will be wired upon delivery and confirmatio of the weapons.

Skull island wishes to purchase 4 tpsv marksmans (jungle camo) and 2 itO 96 BUK M1 units (urban camo) at the calculated cost of 84 million dollars. Half of the money has been wired to your account and the other half will be wired upon delivery and confirmatio of the weapons.

Confirmed.

Please, pick them up at Port Reborn.

i am looking for about 20 AA devices to defend my country, not my army.
what can you recommend???

Hmh.. If your nation is new and weak, I'd suggest 1-2 M1's to defend capital.
And others would be Marksmans.

Unless your AA guns would hold positions, then my suggestion would be ItK 88, we use those at coast, and some other areas.

Crotale NG is pretty ok. They're not too expensive, and they're enough good. M1's are bit bigger and more expensive.

And of course, couple of AA command centers.
If you have much trouble with cruise missiles, then, of course M1's. They work against them too.

So if you have really big & strong nation, M1's.
If its regular, not big, not small; Crotale NG's, and couple of M1's.
If it's small & weak, Marksmans & 1-2 M1's cover capitol.

And couple of ItK 88's are good in any way, they're just big thing to move.

Last bump for tonight.

after much deliberation we have decided to purchase the following:
2 AA command
5 M1
5 Crotale

228 Million
money wired upon confirmation

I would like to purchase 5 ItO 96, BUK M1 units. Plesase ship them to the 10000 Islands, will pay when recived. The amount should be 100 million, US dollars. Please confirm.

Confirmed.

after much deliberation we have decided to purchase the following:
2 AA command
5 M1
5 Crotale

228 Million
money wired upon confirmation

Confirmed.

SterblicheVerletzung is heavily private country. we are under constant watch from our supposed allies. i will take 20 ItO 96, BUK M1 . total cost is 400 million and will be delivered by my second in command at a time convient to us

thank you

SterblicheVerletzung is heavily private country. we are under constant watch from our supposed allies. i will take 20 ItO 96, BUK M1 . total cost is 400 million and will be delivered by my second in command at a time convient to us

Order is confirmed.

Bump.

Bump! Buy, I really don't want to bump. :rolleyes:

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We are considering purchasing 2xItO 96, BUK M1 to defend our capital. What is the estimated delivery time?

We are considering purchasing 2xItO 96, BUK M1 to defend our capital. What is the estimated delivery time?

Producting & delivering should take 5 NS days. [Couple of minutes RL time]

Producting & delivering should take 5 NS days. [Couple of minutes RL time]

Payment has been wired ($40 million). Awaiting delivery.

Payment has been wired ($40 million). Awaiting delivery.

Confirmed.
And the BUK M1's are on the way, we produced them when you asked for the delivery time. And we're producting some more for ourselves.

Buump!

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Bump for this one too. Last for tonight.

Buump!

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Bump. Don't make me bump. I don't want to. ;)

What are their capabilities in regards to taking down well-armored ground attack planes? (eg Su-25 or A-10)

Bump. :headbang:

We would like to place an order for 3,000 JOKE 87 AA Centers, and 1,500 ItO 96, BUK M1s for a total of $87 B.

Money will be wired as soon as confirmed.

I'll buy 500,000 TPSV 90 MArksman anti-aircraft guns.

(money wired upon delivery)

What are their capabilities in regards to taking down well-armored ground attack planes? (eg Su-25 or A-10)

Oh. Sorry. Didn't notice. Well. BUK M1's are, of course the best. But we mostly use Chorales, as they're not too expensive, and still well working.
Of course we have ItK 88's too, but they're hard to move.

We would like to place an order for 3,000 JOKE 87 AA Centers, and 1,500 ItO 96, BUK M1s for a total of $87 B.

Money will be wired as soon as confirmed.

Confirmed.

I'll buy 500,000 TPSV 90 MArksman anti-aircraft guns.

(money wired upon delivery)

Confirmed.
And the total is 5,500 billion.
That's huge order. And delivery takes 10 NS years [10 days RL].

Ooc. That's really huge order.
But I guess you've made savings, as you're big nation.

Bump.

Bump.

3,000 35 ItK 88s.

That's a total of $66 B. I'll add $4 B for express delievery.

3,000 35 ItK 88s.

That's a total of $66 B. I'll add $4 B for express delievery.

Confirmed.

They'll arrive in 1,5 RL days.

Ill take 40 of the marksman and 30 of the BUKM1 please

money is wired on delivery

Ill take 40 of the marksman and 30 of the BUKM1 please

money is wired on delivery

Confirmed.

And the total is $1,040 million [1.04 billion].
Delivery & production takes 1 RL day, becose of war.

Okay thanks!