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LCS-1 INS CHALLENGER
(Blue Knight Littoral Combat Ship (LCS), aka Blue Knight Multirole Missile Boat (MMB))

A revolutionary stealth multirole missile boat, the Blue Knight Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) is specifically designed to bear a high weapons payload at high speeds. A high sea-keeping ability and deck area, as provided by the ship's trimaran hullform and waterjet propulsion design. Following in the tradition of GINY Trimaran Warships (tm)(c), the vessel uses an array of GINY developed technologies to increase its power and effectiveness as a combat vessel.

The design of the Blue Knight has been directed at two objectives: 1) To make the Blue Knight a highly survivable craft, 2) to allow the Blue Knight to bear a payload of weapons disproportionate to its size and cost. The design was molded towards minimizing the optical and infra-red signature, above water acoustic and hydro-acoustic signature, underwater electrical potential and magnetic signature, pressure signature, radar cross section and actively emitted signals. Improved radiator designs, the placement of magnetic elements far from the water level, a composite radar-foiling hull with built-in radar absorbing sections at reflection “hot spots,” waterjet propulsion, and special missile vent systems all reduce these signatures to make the Blue Knight almost invisible outside of the range of its own weapons. A stealth ship of the Blue Knight design has a detection range of 9km in rough seas and 15km in calm sea without jamming. In a jammed environment, the Blue Knight would be detected at a range of 6 km in rough sea and 9km in calm sea. Thanks to the powerful low probability of intercept radar, the Blue Knight can seek out targets while avoiding the revelation of its position to hostile vessels. To meet the second objective, the ship was endowed with novel and powerful weapons platform capabilities that give this vessel the power of ships two or three times its size and four times its cost.

The hull is of composite construction. The hulls are laminated inside and outside with fiber reinforced plastic composed of glass fiber and carbon laminates bound with vinyl ester and polyester resin. A scrimp manufacturing process is used in construction, involving vacuum assisted resin injection. Carbon fiber and carbon loaded materials have been selected for the beams and supporting structures, which need high tensile strength, for example the support structures for the gun and the electro-optical and radar weapon director. The laminate hull material provides high strength and rigidity, low weight, good shock resistance, low radar and magnetic signatures.

Technical Specs
Manufacturer: GINY and Dockstavarvet

Scale
Length: 132.6ft (40.3m)
Beam: 56ft (17m)
Weight: 129 tons (light load, excludes missile-based weight)
Power: Diesel Gemerator/ Waterjet Propulsor
Height:
- from water: 24 ft
- total: 28ft
- Draft: 4ft (~ 1.2m)

Performance
Max Speed: 47.7knots (released figure)
Cruising speed (high): 45knots
Cruising speed (efficient): 38knots
Endurance (at high cruise): 2,100 nm
Endurance (at efficient cruise): 2, 800 nm
Sea keeping: through Sea State 3

Crewing
Minimum: 4
Optimal: 10-12 (depending on configuration)
Normal: 11
Push: Berthing for up to 18 (to allow for assault team deployments, training, and special mission crewing)


Features
Command and Control System
The Unified Combat System is integrated by GIAI (Greater Israel Aircraft Industries) MBT division, with Elbit (combat data systems) and Tadiran (communications systems) as major subcontractors. The ship's combat system provides multiple offensive and defensive capabilities. Target, raw sensor read, weapon status, and threat evaluation information is available to all fire control and launcher systems via the ship's databus. The Command and Information Center (CIC) features a “glass cockpit” array as well as several back-up stations that can control all combat systems through the databus.

The design also includes a dedicated communications cabin adjacent to the CIC, housing all communications related equipment. The ship is equipped with various types of radios, operating in the HF, VHF and UHF bands, as well as data-links providing high transfer data-rate, capable of communicating images and data to extend the combat information system within the task force units both by satellite uplinks, radio systems, and by high speed LOS/S2S (Line Of Sight/Ship to Ship) laser data transfer systems. The data-link connection can also provide the basis for simulated training combining units at sea and on shore based training facilities. Such training activity can take place during routine operations.

Crew Accomodations
Two accommodation sections are provided in the fore and mid sections. Individual accommodations for the core crew of 12 include individual bed and locker. 6 additional berthing spaces are provided by drop-down lofted beds. Rooms are air conditioned, and equipped with entertainment systems such as TV, video, music, audio and intercom channels as well as shower and toilet facilities. A mess hall is located between the two accommodation areas to provide room for dining and recreational activities. During normal operations and patrols, the crew operates in 3 shifts, providing all hands enough time for rest. Most crew members have a secondary role to support combat essential tasks in emergency cases. In combat, the entire crew is called to battle stations, every crew member is performing combat essential tasks, operating and serving weapons systems, such as missiles and guns, combat systems including electronic warfare, communications and command and control, in the machinery rooms and on the bridge.

Sensors
Primary Radar
EL/M-2248 STAR II/AMDR (Surveillance and Threat Alert Radar, mk II/ Automatic Missile Detection Radar).
This radar, designed by Elta, is a coherent S-Band Pulse Doppler air and surface surveillance system, combined with advanced missile detection radar, optimized for operation in adverse sea, clutter and electromagnetic environmental conditions. This multimode radar performs long-range air surveillance, combined with surface surveillance and, at the same time, fast detection and automatic threat alert of air targets. The radar also supports surface gunnery engagement through a unique splash-spotting capability and anti-air and anti-missile weapons systems, as well as ECM chaff system deployment. AMDR has a low false alarm rate, which provides a very reliable threat alert. The AMDR has 3D, 217 and S-FX versions. The radar operates as both a surveillance radar and a self-defence system sensor, with automatic mode switching. In surveillance mode, the STAR II/AMDR can detect targets at ranges of up to 180km; in the self-defence mode, it can detect and track almost any threat within a radius of 60km.


Main Features
Pulse Doppler Detection of Air & Surface Targets.
3D Elevation Coverage.
Automatic Track-While-Scan (TWS).
Very Low False Alarm Rate.
IFF Correlation.
Advanced Programmable Signal Processing
Powerful Data Processing.
Extensive Built-In-Test (BIT)
Automatic Designation to Ship's Systems.
Variety of Interface Capabilities.
Low probability of intercept
Hull-integrated phased-array radar panels
Passive radar detection systems

Typical Performance
Fighter aircraft detection at 180 Km (medium antenna).
Automatic threat alert for attacking missile at 35 Km.
Surface target detection up to radar horizon (18km for a ship with 15 ft of surface exposure, 21km for a ship with 30ft of surface exposure. 22km for “sea skimming” missile at a 10m altitude)
Track-While-Scan (TWS) for multiple air and surface targets.


Secondary Radar
EL/M-2223 STGR II (Search, Track & Guidance/Gunnery Radar, mk II).
The second radar associated with the system is the Elta EL M-2223 Search, Track & Guidance Radar (STGR) providing the system's fire control radar. This is a pulse Doppler dual band (X/Ka) monopulse tracking radar, optimized for operation in adverse sea, clutter and electromagnetic environmental conditions. The system performs surface to air (SAM) guidance, surface-to-surface missile (SSM) guidance, and automatic gunfire control against surface and air targets and has several search modes as backup to the main search radar. This radar is also optimized to track highly maneuverable missile size targets, and perform fast automatic acquisition and continue with guidance and flight directions leading Barak-1 missiles to hit their targets.

Whenever the hard kill of sea skimmers calls for uncompromising accuracy under adverse multipath, ECM or weather conditions, ELTA's STGR II is the ultimate Fire Control Radar to accomplish the task. The STGR II is an extremely accurate, monopulse, dual-band (X & Ka) coherent pulse Doppler radar. The STGR II is capable of tracking highly maneuverable targets after fast automatic acquisition, guiding missiles and directing guns against air and surface targets. ELTA developed the STGR II as part of the BARAK-II Point Defense Missile System for IDF-NC missile boats.

Typical Performance
Missile acquisition at 20 Km
Fighter aircraft acquisition at 60 Km
Surface target acquisition up to radar horizon
Effective Surface-to-Air missile guidance up to 30 Km
Effective surface gunnery up to 30 Km, gun dependent
Effective air gunnery up to 12 Km, gun dependent

Main Features
Fast target acquisition
High accuracy at all elevations
Superb multipath effect elimination
Sophisticated Kalman filtering
High anti-clutter and ECCM capabilities
Extensive Built In Test (BIT)
Lightweight radar that suits a variety of installations
State-of-the-art technologies:
- Composite material antennae
- Advanced programmable signal processing
- Powerful data processing

System Configurations
- X-band (EL/M-2221X) configuration for:
Automatic gun fire control against air targets
Automatic splash spotting against surface targets
Search modes as backup for a search radar

- X/Ka-band configuration for the above tasks, plus:
Extremely accurate tracking and gunnery against sea skimming missiles
Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) guidance in single or salvo firing
Surface-to-Surface Missile (SSM) guidance
NOTE: Each configuration includes TV or TV+IR package


Sonar
The Blue Knight bears Type 796 hull-mounted search-and-attack sonar, which operates at medium frequency and is supplied by EDO of New York. The ship's towed sonar array is supplied by Rafael.


Electro-Optical
The electro-optical system comprises an integrated payload designed formalize use. The IDF Navy uses several systems, such as the MSIS and COMPAS, designed by Elbit Elop. The electro-optical sensors can be used for day and night surveillance and tracking of surface and airborne targets, target range measurement as well as precision gunnery. The system is a fully stabilized day night surveillance system, integrating a 4th generation FLIR, CCD camera, and an automatic target tracker. A dual laser range finder/laser target designator is also included for gunnery and missile operation purposes.

The system is fully integrated with the ship's tire control and combat information systems. The optical systems are fully stabilized, and are installed in a wind resistant housing that effectively withstands the harsh sea environment, enabling the sensors to obtain high quality imagery at long range. Imagery obtained by the electro-optical sensors can be transferred and displayed at the combat information center, on each one of the consoles linked to the combat information network. Images can also be transmitted via dateline to other ships, airborne units or to land based units and installations.


Protection
Armoring
General Vessel-wide: SeaPlate Armoring under a layer of modular E-glass “plastic armor” covering all sections of the ship.
Special Coverage: Ti-6Al-4V RIR Titanium w/ Special Protective Layer and Spall lining placed around Crew compartments and critical engineering components.

Electronic Warfare and Countermeasures:

Countermeasures include the AN/SLQ-25 Nixie towed torpedo decoy system by Aerojet ElectroSystems, which seduces approaching torpedoes away from the ship. The LCS-1's radar warning receiver Elisra NS-9003/9005/9009 is also installed on the Israeli Navy Sa'ar 4 and Sa'ar 4.5 patrol craft and on the Sa'ar 5 corvette.

The integrated naval EW suite provides very fast response to incoming threats. ESM is providing instantaneous direction finding (lDF) HR automatic reception, analysis and identification of electronic signals in the 118GHZ range, with 100% intercept probability of multiple signals, frequency agile and frequency hopping radars.

Other sensors can include COMINT/DF, capable of coping with advanced, agile frequency communications radios. Western Asian systems which could be utilized are Tadiran's NATACS-2000. This system uses an array of four antennae, including HF DF, VHF/UHF DF, HF COMINT and VHF/UHF COMINT. The fully integrated system is equipped with ultra-fast wide band receivers and direction finder systems. With its fast scanning rate, the system can handle dense electromagnetic environment in the HF, VHF and UHF frequency bands, characterized by frequency hopping, burst and ocher agile transmissions. The system performs automatic direction finding and signal classification to enable accurate signal identification. The data obtained from the system's receivers, as well as from on board Electronic Support Measures (ESM) systems, covering the electromagnetic spectrum associated with radar signals, enable the completion of the tactical naval picture. A built in digital audio recorder provides for technical and intelligence analysis of unfamiliar signals. The basic system is operated by one or two operators. The system is fully integrated with the ship's command and control, navigation, and communications system.

The Blue Knight is equipped with a multilayered defensive system, comprised of soft-and hard-kill elements. The soft kill elements are based on several “rings'' of defense, provided by active Electronic Warfare (EW), used for electronically “intercepting'' an incoming missile, as well as deployment of various countermeasures by chaff and flare decoys, which create deception and seduction of incoming missiles' sensors at various phases of their flight. Hard-kill capabilities are provided by the Barak-II missile system and by the turreted gun systems.

EW capabilities rely on alerting signals intercepted by on board ESM systems, detecting hostile activities or “illumination'' by an incoming missile. To counter such threats, sophisticated jammers are used. Systems such as the RAFAEL SHARK - Ship-borne ECM system were developed in Israel, to provide ship-borne ECM defense.

SHARK systems are capable of jamming and deceiving a large number of threats simultaneously in different directions, consist of one or two Multi Beam Array Transmitters, (MBAT), capable of coincidence jamming in the directions of the received threats, covering 360 degrees in azimuth. The system enables immediate positioning of the transmitting beam with very high effective radiated power (ERP). Threat direction and data is provided by the Electronic Support Measures (ESM) receiver on board the vessel. The system utilizes Power ' Management (PM) with sophisticated techniques and trackers. The system is employing various exotic technologies such as simultaneous coincidence jamming, high transmitting power and fast beam switching using Multi Beam Array Transmitters (MBAT) to provide effective and rapid response in the most demanding scenarios.

Another “soft-kill” element in the multilayered “Soft defense'' suite is based on expendable decoys. The system is based on an integration of the Elbit System's DESEAVER decoy launchers (two Elbit Deseaver stabilized chaff rocket launchers are mounted in the hull, one on each side) and RAFAEL'S decoy rockets. Such decoys provide several lines of defense, against missile attack. Decoy rockets are designed for distraction and seduction of enemy missiles, as they create a ship size target at various ranges and prevent engagement by enemy missiles that are searching for targets. The missile acquires the decoy as a real target, causing its seeker to “lock'' on the false target instead of the ship. Seduction is used when the missile has achieved radar lock-on on the ship. Deployed at optimum locations, these rapid blooming chaff decoys create huge “targets'' that should attract the missile seeker and deflect it away from the ship. Heat generating decoys are also augmenting these tactics at short range.

The DESEAVER decoy control and launching system, developed by Elbit, is designed to handle the various launchers, decoy types and tactics, in response to all potential threats. The system can handle multiple threats from multiple directions simultaneously. Acting on data received and processed from the ship's command and control system and sensors, the system launches a barrage of expandable decoys with precise priority and timing. The system can deliver payloads at accurate time intervals and according to specified anti-missile doctrines and guidelines to effectively defeat such threats.

Camouflage Patterns and Paint Schemes

The basic vessels come painted in Black, the IDF-NC standard Gray, light blue, or white-and-red coast guard colors. The ships can be painted any color or in any camouflage scheme that the buyer wishes for orders of more than 15 vessels. Active camoulfage systems are not included in versions sold to foreign nations and native repainting is not recommended due to the risk of dangering the radar absorbing and reflective materials about the vessel. GINY crews can be on call to repaint or repair any vessels seriously damaged in combat, contingent upon the nation's good relations with Western Asia, for a fair and equitable fee.

Loads
1-2, CRRC (Compatible Zodiac models: Ribster 530 Light Strike Craft (LSC), F-470 w/Armorflate, F-470, FC-530, FC-470, FC-420, G-380, G-470.)
ASuW/Counter-mine variants: UUVs
Scout/reconnaissance variants: USVs, UUVs, and UAVs


Armament:
Gun Systems
[Note: all gun systems can be modified to accept RAMICS-type guns and sensors for counter-mine operations]

Primary Turreted Gun System:
A single, top-mounted turret including the main ship gun system, short range AD systems. Includes stealthy composite structure and design features. Special orders can have the 30mm gun upgraded to a 35mm MDG-351 Millennium/Skyguard, 40mm, 57mm/70, Oto Melara 76mm, or 10cm/55 Compact guns (but guns above 40mm mean a reduction in other shipboard systems including the primary missile bays, secondary gun systems, Barak VL arrays, other shipboard systems, and crew accomodations...and may require significant reengineering of the Blue Knight vessels). The turret is equipped with the following component systems:

30mm Bushmaster II Chain Gun (Mark 46 Mod4 Naval Gun)
MaxROF: 300rpm NormROF: 260rpm
Effective Range: 2,700 m (AA)/4,600m (AS)
Min/Max Range: 300-7,000m
Round Type: 30 mm x 173 mm GAU-8 standard ammunition (can fire Rarden and Oerlikon ammunition with a minor conversion). Dual ammunition feed, HE and API.
Ready Round Stowage: 1,200 rounds (840 HE or HETF/ 360 APFSDS-T standard mix)
Stowed Ammunition: 800 rounds stowed
Mounting Elevation Range: -11/+60
Train Rate: 90°/second

M240E1 7.62mm Coaxial Machine Gun
ROF:
Cyclic: 650-950 rounds per minute
Rapid: 200 rounds per minute
Sustained: 100 rounds per minute
RANGE:
Maximum effective range: 1.1 miles (1,800 m)
Maximum range: 2.31 miles (3,725 m)
AMMUNITION:
Ready Round Stowage: 4,200 rounds
Stowed Rounds: 1,800

Red-Horizon SHORAD System
2 “pop-out” Short-ranged Surface to Air missile stations, bears 4 missiles total. System compatible with different types of missile systems, including American (Stinger) and Russian (Strela, Igla, SA-7, 14, 16, 18 etc.), Israeli/WA systems, and their indigenous derivatives, available in many countries (Poland, China etc.).

Secondary Gun Systems
Mk 52 Mod I Turret (Typhoon NTD/OWS 25R systems)
2 sets of turrets, each set in a LO/Stealthy turret. Each turret equipped with:

- 1, 25mm M242 Bushmaster Chain Gun
MaxROF: 240rpm NormROF: 200rpm
Effective Range: 2,000m (AS)
Min/Max Range: 300-5,000m
Round Type:
Ready Round Stowage: 400 rounds (280 HE/120 API)/gun
Stowed Ammunition: 800 rounds/gun
Mounting Elevation Range: -15/+60
Train Rate: 120°/second

- 1, 7.62mm Coaxial Machine Gun
Ready Round Stowage: 600 rounds/gun
Stowed Ammunition: 900 rounds/gun

- 2, ATGMs (Standard type is Spike-ER/NTD)
Alternate Compatible missiles: TOW, HOT, LAHAT, GL-M, Gil/Spike family weapons, Soviet systems. Note: Some models may require turret and launch rail/tube modifications.

Missile Systems
Defensive Missile Battery
Consists of 32 Barak II VL Point Defense AMMs in 2, 16missile arrays.

Primary Missile Battery

A pair of large “Pop-Up” missile stations (one on each side) designed to work with most common ASMs on the market. To balance the ship during launches, missiles from alternate sides are automatically tasked to successive launch order slots. Two variants are produced:

Standard type (WA/allied A-variants, export version): can carry any cruise missile of a length <24' (~8m); 9' (2.74m) of missile fronting space/side; vertical clearance up to 1.3 m. Most missiles can often be reloaded internally if necessary (but pop-up launcher must be in the stowed position). “Sample load” is full load-out excepting stowed missiles.
-- Sample ASM Loads:
4, Gabriel IV LRs (200km range, hi subsonic, 240kg unitary or 150kg submun Warhead)
6, Gabriel III (36km range, high subsonic, 150kg warhead)
8, AGM-84D Harpoon (130km , high subsonic, 227kg warhead)
4, RBS-15F (200km, high subsonic, 300kg warhead)
6, Sea/Golden Eagle (~110km, high subsonic, 230kg warhead)
6, MM38 Exocet (42km, subsonic, 165kg warhead)
4-6, MM40 Blk 1,2, and 3 Exocet (>180km, high subsonic) [wingspan & warhead sizes are unclear]
6, NSM (~150km, high subsonic, 120kg fragmentation warhead)

NOTE: Some models can be modified to serve in an Air Defense role where numerous Python 4/5 and Derby or other SPYDER-compatible Ground-launch modified AAMs are carried. For instance, one Blue Knight could carry about 12 Derby BVRAAM (>63km, high supersonic) or 16 Python V (>20km, high supersonic). 6, RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles or RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSMs) could also be mounted. Another variant is capable of launching MRL rocket strikes against both naval and land targets. This variant can hold and launch up to 10 MAR-350 navalized rocket pods (1 rocket/pod, 10 rockets. 90km, 770 M85 bomblets/rocket) or 6 LAR-160 navalized rocket pods (18 rockets/pod, 108 rockets. 12-45km, 104 M85 bomblets/rocket). All of these armament variations can be obtained on the A and B variant Blue Knight vessels with appropriate, optional, systems control and fitting modules.


Mod 1 (WA and allied B-variants): can carry 6 PJ-12-N BrahMos II missiles, 3/side or any combination used in the A-variant. Missile length up to 26ft 3in (8.0m). Designed especially for the launch of larger supersonic ASMs.


Additional Information
Primary Variants and Costs
There are several major military variants of the Blue Knight, which cost from $90-140M (depending upon the model and the size of the order*) as well as one, much cheaper, civilian vessel. Although the ships are designated as separate variants, most models (not including the B-variant) can be made from the A-variant with simple structural and system modifications, which can usually be completed by swapping out a limited number of subcomponents in dock. This allows a fleet of Blue Knight LCSes to be adaptive to the sociopolitical situation and to be flexible enough to serve in any littoral role without a major overhaul or the need for a separate vessel model.

Blue Knight A Variant (Patrol, Reconnaissance, Strike vessel, Missile Carrier. ). Baseline Market Price*: $135M/unit.

Blue Knight B Variant (above + BrahMos II Carrier). Baseline Market Price*: $140M/unit

Blue Knight C Variant (Scout Variant. “Pop-up” missile stations used as medium-sized UAV launch bays. One bay space on each side may be retained for small ASMs. Slightly faster than other variants due to low weight loadings. Special launcher arrays are installed for the launch of RAFAEL Skylark UAVs.). Baseline Market Price*: $96M

Blue Knight D Variant (MCM. Missiles are abandoned for MCM gear, guns are adjusted for MCM using RAMICS-like rounds, UUVs and USVs can be deployed.) Baseline Market Price*: $120M

Blue Knight E Variant (ASuW. Equipped to launch GINY Manta UUSVs and ASuW weapons.) Baseline Market Price*: $130M

Custom Blue Knight Variants (Special Operations, VIP, etc. Prices will be given based on provided desires as will an outline on the other systems that have been removed or replaced to accomodate those requests. Baseline Market Price*: Variable.)

Blue Cruiser (Civilian Yacht. Weapons are removed and missile pop-up areas are replaced by decks. Ship armoring replaced by aluminum where necessary and removed in favor of additional living and stowage space in all other conditions. Military-grade radar and combat/control systems have been deleted in favor of a simple commercial off the shelf (OTS) radar array. Comfortable berthing for crew/service of 4 and 10 passengers (due to the removal of much of the military systems). Controls and systems are simple enough to be used by passengers with pilot's license for yachts in the proper class. Cheaper versions can be constructed with aluminum hulls at the expense of a governor-enforced 40knot speed limit for the sake of structural integrity. VIP versions can retain armoring and some combat systems, please inquire about VIP variant pricings. Baseline Market Price*: $15-40M, depending upon included features.

* Baseline Market Price (BMP): The price per unit excluding optional equipment and special armament arrays. BMP does not include the price of the primary missiles or any ATGMs and SHORAD missiles, which can be purchased as part of a package ship acquisition deal or can be supplied separately. It is assumed that the buyer will inform the seller of the preferred missile system types so that the ships can be configured appropriately. Larger orders may result in a per-vessel cost reduction from the provided BMP. Allied Group Materiel Cost Discounts apply.

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OOC: This thread was made to keep orders for the Blue Knight out of my Telegrams box and out of academic threads like the "info on naval vessels" thread. The following orders have been received and are here being responded to (if not already dealt with).

As stated above, NO missiles of any sort are included in the basic price. If you want missiles (which can be provided) then just state that and they will be provided if your nation has clearance for those systems.

Also, only confirmed allies of Western Asia may receive the B-variant Blue Knights.

OOC:
Pwnica Order (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6784412&postcount=10)
Pwnica is impressed by this ship. (We love missile frigates over here) We wish to purchase 250 of the B-variants, total price is 35,000,000,000, which will be wired upon confirmation of our order. If you can give us an estimated time of production, we might be able to work out a payment plan if you wish.
Note: resolved in thread. 250 ships are in process for final delivery in 18 months with an ~25 unit/month production rate. Lines are full for one NS year. Second production facility being built with an additional 25 unit per month production capacity.

Lunatic Retarded Robots Order (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6793479&postcount=286)
Ok. The Baraks will be built into the Son House class of missile corvettes upon delivery of the systems.

The Goalkeeper II is supposed to be essentially a Goalkeeper with a faster train speed, better aquisition systems, and a low-RCS mount. That's what the II is for. While lighter than the original, it is still pretty heavy, and its probably not a good idea to mount one on anything much smaller than 40 meters.

But the barak looks like a good system. It will probably even replace the SA-N-20 on the Son House anyway.

But WA, the challenger is one awesome ship. The only reason why it doesn't beat the Son House is because it was designed by a navy that concentrates almost solely on defensive missile craft (guess who that is. ;))

Do they come in Swedish-pattern camoflauge? If so, the LRRN would be most interested in buying mabye 200 to replace 2/3rds of the Howlin' Wolf class corvettes.

I would, however, like to rename them the Muddy Waters class, if that's alright with you.

LRR, the first 10 Barak packs (80 missiles in launchers, along with 10 Fire Control Integration Packs, and a team of 4 advisors) are en route to LRR now.

The Blue Knights can come in the Swedish pattern and it will be painted as such for such a large order. Any rechristening is fine so long as listings are put "Muddy Waters-class (Blue Knight LCS)" but for specific uses in RPs the origin doesn't need to be mentioned. Which Variants would you be interested in?

An immediate order would take about 2 NS years to fill.

- WA


The ISTJ is looking acquire sixty-four(64) examples of the Blue Knight LCS in A & E variant each, the delivery of all craft to be completed over a five year period if possible. Exact terms of payment and conditions of late delivery can be discussed latter, assuming you agree to the initial delivery quantities.

Defence Appropriations Oversight Committee

64 x Blue Knight LCS, A-Variant@$135M/unit= $8.64Bn
64 x Blue Knight LCS, E-Variant@$130M/unit= $8.32Bn
total: 128 Vessels for $16.96Bn

It is assumed that this will be paid in increments. Delivery will take 36 months for all units to arrive, with 2/3rds of the units arriving after the passage of 18 months when production lines have been freed up.

Omz TM and my response
OOC: Well, I saw your ships in CSJ's naval thread. Needlessly to say, that Challenger's one nice ship. Once though I'm thinking about is that you could have some form of .50cals (or even auto grenade launcher systems) as a last resort of defence - should be small enough to mount. I think that VLS also could be used as a weapons systems, but your missile stations sounds pretty nice (hope it's armored.

The VLS only holds 2m of missiles (so it can do the Seawolf, Mica, or Barak, but little else) but most of those miniVLS missiles actually can be used as offensive systems against aircraft and other ships, although the range is so small that it's usually a last-defense.

The pop up missile launchers have the extra armoring around them for defense and are retracted when not in use (it takes only a second or two to pop up, 2-4 seconds to retract, in spite of the weight). As for the .50 cal/40mm "last resort" systems, that's basically what the 2 side turrets are for, with 2 ATGMs to each, a 7.62 coax gun and a main 20-25mm guns. IF you want, those can be changed to a smaller .50 cal system such as a modified miniTyphoon turret for that purpose, or the top gun can be substituted for a 35mm Millennium Gun system.

But I figured that it wouldn't be nice to do sales in that thread, so I'll place my (simple) orders here:

76x Blue Knight A Variant (Base Cost USD$10,260,000,000)
18x Blue Knight D Variant (USD$2,160,000,000)
64x Blue Knight E Variant (USD$8,320,000,000)
12x Modificed Blue Cruiser Variant (for Special Operations; requirement includes military-grade radar for threat warning, basic self-defence anti-air/surface systems, secure communications and EW suites. Only light armor should be "good enough" for the purpose to make space for stowage spaces for equipment.)

If you want, I'll be making a thread in the NATO forum Classifieds thread (it was done at 3am last night when I closed another IE window and, in the process, closed the complete-yet-not-submitted thread as well). IF you want, I'll just copy the relevent parts of your TM to that thread as my first NATO order (I've received 2 other orders as well, so it'll also help me sort out productions) or I might use the GI regional board as a place to record this stuff. Due to previous relations and current NATO alliance status, you'll get a discount on this all, but let me get this up on a real thread first.

As for the Special Operations variant, the removal of the missile bays should allow for about 10 more personnel (not counting the 2-3 spaces freed from weapons control duties) and 2 more of the approved CRRC models to be stored aboard the ship (this assumes that you maintain the current habitation standards, if you prefer an old-style mass housing system then you might fit 34 people on the ship, but it won't be very comfortable housing. The other described systems are standard unless special radio communications gear is required (which, I imagine, you'd like to install on your own). IF you get rid of the side turrets or just the main turret/SHORAD system then you save some weight and space but it will mostly be off-set by the expansion of the armoring to cover the new crew areas.

For complement of shore-defence duties, plus a separate Aarmy requirement, we would also enquire if a price quote is available for a domestic production license of the Spike-ER, and Gil and Spike weapons. The Navy would also request for more information of the Manta UUSV system, among other unmanned systems available for the vessel.)

The Spike-ER (NTD), Gil, and Spike systems all have a varied set of ranges and portability issues, with the NTD being almost exclusively vehicle-based, the Spike being one weight step down from a TOW, and the Gil being basically a short-ranged system for urban or other non-open terrain combat.

The Manta UUSV (Unmanned Underwater Strike Vessel) can bear up to 4 Sonobouys or Super Lightweight Torpedos but has 2 supercavitating round-launching "machine guns" (non explosive launch, but enough to do damage) of between 7.62mm and 20mm. These guns are useful for attacking other submersible vessels but are primarily for seeking out and destroying mines while the subhunting missions depend on a combination of the SLTs and communications with host vessels to coordinate the launch of ASuW systems. An Image can be provided.

The Omzian Navy eagerly awaits a response to our "package" contract proposal, as we hope to modernize the Omzian shore-defence force for new requirements and new threats of tomorrow through the procurement of advanced systems.

The Omzian Navy might also be interested in the BrahMos II ASM. The BrahMos is a 8m missile that uses a combination Ramjet/Turbo jet for operational speeds between 2.8 Mach and 3.5 Mach while maintaining a sea-skimming profile that follows so low that the height of the waves needs to be programmed at launch. The range of 350-400km (depending on the flight profile) with a 200-300kg warhead provides a powerful stand-off system that can be truck (land), ship (sea), or jet (air) launched against enemy vessels. The Spike family, however, certainly holds sway in the Littoral environment.
Update:
170 vessels ordered. Cost for Custom units will be $114M/unit with the specified modifications and includes the 4 CRRCs (whatever models you want). A 7% reduction in sum price (from the total) once the price for the special mod unit has been agreed upon.

I would like 150 E variant, 50 D (?) variant.

Thanks for the Baraks as well.

The refit should be done within the (RL) week.

The Omzian Navy is excited regarding the news of the approval of the contract proposal. As we reviewed the requirement and found both the "regular" variants and the SOF insertation modification greatly exceeding our needs. As for the modification, we prefer a combination of the F-470 (Armorflate) and the Omzian Neptune P227 watercraft (basically something like the Ribster - supplied by us of course), and we also feel that the main turret would be unnecessary for our requirements. Special communication, EW, and intelligence-gathering equipment will be provided by us. Wwe feel that the price isprefectly acceptable.

For the "regular" variants, we feel that the current turret configuration is prefectly acceptable.

The Omzian Navy also feel that, after a review, the Manta UUSV can fully complement the Blue Knight LCS well in both shore ASW and ASuW operations. We request for an image of the system, and a possible price quote for a possible purchase of aa number of 227 Manta UUSV systems.

We also bear great interest in the Spike system and hope for a possible purchase of the Spike-ER system for a joint Army-Navy requirement. We will also consider the Brahmos II as a possible complement or even replacement for the current Thunderbolt and Bankarit ASMs current in use by the Omzian navy.

The ARSB would like to purchase 60 Blue Knight LCS (A variant) [8.1 Billion USD], 16 Blue knight LCS (C Variant) [1.536 Billion USD], and ten (10) Blue Knight LCS (E Variant) [1.3 Billion USD].

Total purchase price comes to 10.936 Billion USD.

Thank you for a superbly designed naval vessel and we look forward to the vessels after their completion.

OOC: Nice job on the imaging.

OOC: Nice job on the imaging.
OOC:
Not mine. John Macneill is the artist and the models were used in a PopSci article, september 2001. He is an amazing artist who has done a number of pieces for Technology Review, Popular Science, and perhaps Popular Mechanics among other publications. Specs and capabilities are built on a combination of current/potential technologies and the system described in the article.

Everyone else, I'll respond to orders tomorrow sometime.

An acceptale timeframe given the quantity of orders you're receiving as a whole, payment on completion of every second hull with the outstanding being payed upon total completion.

I would like 150 E variant, 50 D (?) variant.

Thanks for the Baraks as well.

The refit should be done within the (RL) week.

150 x Blue Knight LCS, D-Variant@$120M/unit= $18Bn
50 x Blue Knight LCS, E-Variant@$130M/unit= $6.5Bn
total: 200 Vessels for $24.5Bn

It is assumed that this will be paid in increments. Delivery will take 22 months for all units to arrive, with the units starting to arrive after the passage of 6 months when production lines have been freed up some. The units will be painted with the requested color scheme.

The Omzian Navy is excited regarding the news of the approval of the contract proposal. As we reviewed the requirement and found both the "regular" variants and the SOF insertation modification greatly exceeding our needs. As for the modification, we prefer a combination of the F-470 (Armorflate) and the Omzian Neptune P227 watercraft (basically something like the Ribster - supplied by us of course), and we also feel that the main turret would be unnecessary for our requirements. Special communication, EW, and intelligence-gathering equipment will be provided by us. Wwe feel that the price isprefectly acceptable.

For the "regular" variants, we feel that the current turret configuration is prefectly acceptable.

The Omzian Navy also feel that, after a review, the Manta UUSV can fully complement the Blue Knight LCS well in both shore ASW and ASuW operations. We request for an image of the system, and a possible price quote for a possible purchase of aa number of 227 Manta UUSV systems.

We also bear great interest in the Spike system and hope for a possible purchase of the Spike-ER system for a joint Army-Navy requirement. We will also consider the Brahmos II as a possible complement or even replacement for the current Thunderbolt and Bankarit ASMs current in use by the Omzian navy.

76x Blue Knight A Variant (Base Cost USD$10,260,000,000)
18x Blue Knight D Variant (USD$2,160,000,000)
64x Blue Knight E Variant (USD$8,320,000,000)
12x SOF Blue Cruiser Custom (USD$1,368,000,000)
Total: 170 vessels @ $22.108Bn, with discount, owed amount is $20.6Bn.

The second Blue Knight facility will be focused on providing this order when it opens, producing about 25 vessels/month, with the last vessel being delivered in 10 months (most aside from the customs will be done within 8months, but the customizations will require some time). The modifications will be made as requested for the custom units and the requested F-470 w/Armorflate CRRCs will be included with slots left open for the Omzian CRRCs.

The Mantas (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/chucklesbd/Manta_thumbnail2.jpg) (OOC: same graphic artist as the Blue Knight). The per-unit cost is $16.2M (227 units @ $3.677Bn), which makes them somewhat expensive, but not when used properly. It should be warned that only about 2 of the units can be carried on a single Blue Knight class vessels (being more than 3m long, but smaller torpedo-like seeker/sensor UUVs can be carried in larger numbers). WAAMA member companies produce submarines that can bear 2, 4, 6, or 8 Manta UUSVs (number depending upon model, system requirements, etc. Normal models in WA use bear 4 and 8 UUSVs integrated smoothly into depressions in the hull where the UUSVs provide no significant addition to the sonar signal.)

As for the Spike-ER/NTD family of systems. Each CLU/FCS costs about $270,000 with each missile costing $90-140,000 (wholesale, not retail prices), depending on the package deal and order size. Depending on the proposed deployment size, the price for a production license varies greatly. A licensed production package of 270 ground/vehicle launchers and 2,700 missiles would cost about $430M with a transfer of technology and system designs. The deal would also require that Omz not resell or transfer any systems to third parties (countries, groups, or individuals) without prior WA approval (can be private and secured information). Helicopter-based launchers would be a separate deal but not significantly more although the helicopter integration software and technology would need to be negotiated. What would the expected Omzian need be?

WA would be open to negotiations for the BrahMos II, but the negotiations will need to be of a more private nature.

The ARSB would like to purchase 60 Blue Knight LCS (A variant) [8.1 Billion USD], 16 Blue knight LCS (C Variant) [1.536 Billion USD], and ten (10) Blue Knight LCS (E Variant) [1.3 Billion USD].

Total purchase price comes to 10.936 Billion USD.

Thank you for a superbly designed naval vessel and we look forward to the vessels after their completion.

The order for 86 vessels at a price of $10.936Bn is confirmed. We will leave open the slots for the integration of your (OOC: I assume) soviet-styled ATGMs and SHORAD missiles. Your productions will come from the Blue Knight B-factory with the completion of the Omz order, so your first units will arrive in 9 months with the last arriving about 5-6 months later. And we always strive to please with our designs.


Tom Joad,
Your order might finish sooner thanks to the new second production line. We thank you for your patience.

The Omzian Navy is greatly satisfied about the conclusion of the main order of the Blue Knight vessels, and is prepared for the commissioning of such vessels. We are also satisfied by the fast rate of the production of vessels at high qualities, and is very happy to be able to work with the Western Asian arms contractors again. The Omzian Bank and the Omzian Ministry of National Defence will work out the delivery of the funds, and it is anticipated that the money will be wired in 10 installments of $2.2108 each, over a period of 8 months, if this is acceptable. We are also grateful for the discount that Western Asia is able to give, and the offering of additional weapon systems capable of being used on the Blue Knight vessels.

For the Manta UUSV, we feel that the prices is prefectly acceptable for our determined requirement of 227 units for use on selected Blue Knight vessels, and would like to finalize the order of 227 units at the base price. The Omzian Navy and the Omzian Ministry of National Defence (MOND) is also considering to purchase additional Manta UUSVs for additional requirements on other vessels.

For the Spike-ER/NTD systems, our joint Army-Navy requirement is set around a licensed production package conststing of a total of 3,100 missile systems for the Blue Knight vessels, 810 vehicle-based launchers (for the Omzian Navy Marine Corps, for the mounting on designated anti-tank Humvees and LAV systems) and 2900 missiles, and 5,533 vehicle-based launchers and 42,000 missile systems for the Army (also to be mounted on vehicles). Additionally, the Marine Corps and the Army is also requesting a separate joint production package for a total of 810 AH-1Z-mounted systems. If this is acceptable, we will accept the requirements set by Western Asia regarding the distribution of the technology (as we are intending for this package to be used within the OHDF only). The systems will be assembled in OMASC and state-owned factories.

As for the Brahmos II system, we are prefectly comfortable for the nature of the negotiations, and the Omzian Navy is beginning to consider a requirement for the use of Brahmos II on littoral vessels. We will inform WAMAA with a confidentially when we have made the decision.

As the contract is being prepared, we once thank Western Asia for their offering of the weapons systems, and we are hoping for the procurement of Western Asian systems in the future.

The DAOC appreciates the efforts being undertaken by Western Asia in regards to our orders and will be sure to place initial interest for potential future procurements with Western Asia.

The Omzian Navy is greatly satisfied about the conclusion of the main order of the Blue Knight vessels, and is prepared for the commissioning of such vessels. We are also satisfied by the fast rate of the production of vessels at high qualities, and is very happy to be able to work with the Western Asian arms contractors again. The Omzian Bank and the Omzian Ministry of National Defence will work out the delivery of the funds, and it is anticipated that the money will be wired in 10 installments of $2.2108 each, over a period of 8 months, if this is acceptable. We are also grateful for the discount that Western Asia is able to give, and the offering of additional weapon systems capable of being used on the Blue Knight vessels.

This is perfectly acceptable and is even quite generous as Omz's MND may well split the payments to a more reasonable time scale if it is too great of a burden.

For the Manta UUSV, we feel that the prices is prefectly acceptable for our determined requirement of 227 units for use on selected Blue Knight vessels, and would like to finalize the order of 227 units at the base price. The Omzian Navy and the Omzian Ministry of National Defence (MOND) is also considering to purchase additional Manta UUSVs for additional requirements on other vessels.

227 Manta UUSVs would come in at $3.677Bn, which is $3.42Bn with the discount. These units, when possible, will be stowed on the Blue Knight vessels being sent. All other units will be sent by air freight. The complexity of the compact Manta systems demands that at the current Low Rate Continued Production pace only about 4 units can be produced every month. The production status will be raised, however, to 12 units/month within 2 months. This provides a 21 month delivery schedule on the Manta order.

For the Spike-ER/NTD systems, our joint Army-Navy requirement is set around a licensed production package conststing of a total of 3,100 missile systems for the Blue Knight vessels, 810 vehicle-based launchers (for the Omzian Navy Marine Corps, for the mounting on designated anti-tank Humvees and LAV systems) and 2900 missiles, and 5,533 vehicle-based launchers and 42,000 missile systems for the Army (also to be mounted on vehicles). Additionally, the Marine Corps and the Army is also requesting a separate joint production package for a total of 810 AH-1Z-mounted systems. If this is acceptable, we will accept the requirements set by Western Asia regarding the distribution of the technology (as we are intending for this package to be used within the OHDF only). The systems will be assembled in OMASC and state-owned factories.

OOC: I might've mislead you earlier. The NTD/Spike-ER can be man-portable but is relatively heavy and so is, as your forces will deploy it, mostly a vehicle-mounted or "mechanized infantry dismount" type weapon.

IC: The deal as described would cost Omz about $6.8Bn including the deductions from the material costs section of the contract (discount). Specifications for the systems, the designs for components, and the legal license for production will be provided along with a WAAMA advisory team. This team will also provide your forces with materials for training and a couple of Spike-ER/NTD systems.

The second contract for 810 Cobra helicopter mounts would be approximately $245M dollars, including the full software integration suite (with system code provided) and designs and support for the NTD-mounting system. The same restrictions are, we assume, accepted. A member of the advisory team will provide support for this contract if it is executed.

As for the Brahmos II system, we are prefectly comfortable for the nature of the negotiations, and the Omzian Navy is beginning to consider a requirement for the use of Brahmos II on littoral vessels. We will inform WAMAA with a confidentially when we have made the decision.

As the contract is being prepared, we once thank Western Asia for their offering of the weapons systems, and we are hoping for the procurement of Western Asian systems in the future.

OOC: I'm packing up this computer for a trip later today, so this is the last time I'm on here for about a week and a half. I'll check in then, but try to not send too many TMs.

The Manta UUSV portion of the contract is prefectly acceptable, and we are happy to see that the production rate is increased for the Manta UUSVs being able to complement the Blue Knight vessel. The funds will be processed and wired by the Omzian Bank and MOND within one month.

We are also satisfied that Western Asia is able to provide a production contract to meet our demands for the missile systems, and is prefectly willing to seal off the contract and execute it. Aas this is agreed upon, we will wire the total funds in three portions of approx. $2.3483 billion dollars each over a period of 2 months, if that is acceptable. We would appreciate the technological information for the systems, and the coding for the software integration suites to be sent "face-to-face", as we suspect that computer systems may be too insecure for the particular task.

As we seal off the contract, we are happy that another one of such contract could be sealed off between the two nations, and hopes for more coopreation in the future.

*Bump*

I would like to purchase four of these fine vessels.

(For that thing I showed you with real populations, I can't go around making huge orders like I want to, unless I use them outside of the AMW community.)

And another 500 or so, to be in the works for a while of course, since its such a bulk order, for other times.

The Omzian Navy congratulates the designers of the Blue Knight vessel for designing such a high performance system. An exceptional system and an important asset as part of the Omzian Navy's hope to deter and combat foreign aggressors within coastal waters, the Blue Knight vessel has fared more than well against "enemy" targets during annual training exercises. Not only is it a proven platform for medium-scale anti-air warfare duties with the large battery of Barak missiles, but also as part of an amphibious force, its excellent array of gun systems and anti-tank missiles has greatly helped the amphibious force by destroying simulated mobile armoured targets and fixed fortifications. Because of these factors, and because of a series of requirements of the Omzian military, we wish to place an order for the following vessel for the benefit of both nations' militaries and military contractors:

-96 X Blue Knight, "A" variant, for standard coastal defense duties, and for convoy escort in coastal waters with gunnery systems, Barak SAMs, and NSM-sized subsonic AShMs - Base Price $12.96 billion
-96 X Blue Knight, "B" variant, for spearheading fast missile craft assaults with the use of powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles - Base Price $13.44 billion
-96 X Blue Knight, "C" scout variant, for spearheading fast missile craft assaults and detect enemy forces with the use of UAVs - Base Price $9.216 billion
-72 X Blue Knight, "D" mine warfare variant, for coastal mine warfare operations against shallow and deep water mines of various types - Base Price $8.64 billion
-72 X Blue Knight, "E" variant, for general ASW duties - Base Price $9.36 billion

Total BP: $53.616 billion

As we determine the cost to be extremely high for the particular order, we inquire if it is possible to wire the amount of money over 20 installments over a period of one year, if possible. We also inquire if it is possible to order an additional 628 Manta UUSV units, as these units, as one of the first UUVs, also proved their value in exercises as important, irreplaceable assets available to the Omzian Navy. Finally, as a complement to existing supersonic anti-ship weapons, we would like to inquire if is possible for GINY to release further specifications for the BrahMos II missile for review by the Omzian Navy, which would possibly result in a following, separate contract as a result of a requirement for a separate but more cost effective supersonic anti-ship missile.

With this, we send our compliments to the designers of the Blue Knight LCS vessel and Western Asia, as we hope that through this purchase, both nations' military arms contractors and the Omzian Navy would be strengthened, along with the friendly relationship between both nations.

Our regards,

Fleet Admiral Loran,
CINC, Omzian Naval Headquarters

Admiral Goodwin,
VCINC, Omzian Naval Headquarters
Unit CINC, Command, WESTFLT

Omzian Ministry of National Defense

I would like to purchase four of these fine vessels.

(For that thing I showed you with real populations, I can't go around making huge orders like I want to, unless I use them outside of the AMW community.)

And another 500 or so, to be in the works for a while of course, since its such a bulk order, for other times.

Is this (each section apart, I guess) order for a specific variant (A, B, C, etc) or is a mix of vessel types requested?

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Omz,
The praise is certainly appreciated and your note has been passed on to the Design, Fabrication, and Engineering team that was responsible for this vessel.


-96 X Blue Knight, "A" variant, for standard coastal defense duties, and for convoy escort in coastal waters with gunnery systems, Barak SAMs, and NSM-sized subsonic AShMs - Base Price $12.96 billion
-96 X Blue Knight, "B" variant, for spearheading fast missile craft assaults with the use of powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles - Base Price $13.44 billion
-96 X Blue Knight, "C" scout variant, for spearheading fast missile craft assaults and detect enemy forces with the use of UAVs - Base Price $9.216 billion
-72 X Blue Knight, "D" mine warfare variant, for coastal mine warfare operations against shallow and deep water mines of various types - Base Price $8.64 billion
-72 X Blue Knight, "E" variant, for general ASW duties - Base Price $9.36 billion

Total BP: $53.616 billion

With the usual discount, the bill for these 432 vessels is $49.865Bn. The final deliveries will be in approximately 40 months (some initial production months will be slow because the factories are currently at a lower rate than is necessary for the fulfillment of this order).

As we determine the cost to be extremely high for the particular order, we inquire if it is possible to wire the amount of money over 20 installments over a period of one year, if possible. We also inquire if it is possible to order an additional 628 Manta UUSV units, as these units, as one of the first UUVs, also proved their value in exercises as important, irreplaceable assets available to the Omzian Navy.

The payment may be spread out over several years (in game time) due to the simple fact that not all of the units will be completed by the end of this year or even possibly the next. Our Accounts Payable department will negotiate the exact plan with your treasury officers to give you an easy payment plan.

The Manta order is also being processed. Since Omz has previously ordered and received these units there should be no approval issues.

628 units @ $16.2M = $10.1736 Bn

This bill will be incorporated into that for the above units and these units will be delivered concurrently. This order will take about 50 months to complete due to the complexity of the systems and the limited manufacturing resources available. These systems, however, are a slightly upgraded version of what was last received by Omz. These new variants can boast the following: an improved AI system, boosted survivability systems (improved materials and system design), an improved communications array, and can interact with more weapons and specialty system.

Finally, as a complement to existing supersonic anti-ship weapons, we would like to inquire if is possible for GINY to release further specifications for the BrahMos II missile for review by the Omzian Navy, which would possibly result in a following, separate contract as a result of a requirement for a separate but more cost effective supersonic anti-ship missile.

No more information can be released over public systems at this time, but a secure communication will provide the requested information.

OOC: This (ooc), for my purposes, is secure enough. I'll make another post soon with the specs.

Oh yes...variants.

In my AMW order, say, three As and one A Mod 1.

In my rest-of-NS order, 200 As, 100 A Mod 1s, 100 Es, 50 Ds, and 50 Cs.

And whatever that comes out to...

We are pleased to hear about the acceptance of the contract proposal, as we are currently arranging to have the funds to be wired over a period of 36 months, if it is acceptable. As we are awaits for the sea trials and soon the commissioning of these vessels eagerly, we would like to express our thanks for the approval of the sale of these exceptional systems.

Regards,

Ministry of National Defence

Oh yes...variants.

In my AMW order, say, three As and one A Mod 1.

AMW Order:
3 X Blue Knight, "A" variant@ $135M/unit= $405M
1 X Blue Knight, "A-1"/"B" variant@ $140M/unit= $140M
Total: $545M
With Discount: $514M billed

Order will be completed by the end of the second month from the date of purchase.


In my rest-of-NS order, 200 As, 100 A Mod 1s, 100 Es, 50 Ds, and 50 Cs.

And whatever that comes out to...
Rest-of-NS order:
200 X Blue Knight, "A" variant@ $135M/unit=$27 Bn
100 X Blue Knight, "A-1"/"B" variant@ $140M/unit=$14 Bn
100 X Blue Knight, "E" variant@ $130M/unit=$13 Bn
50 X Blue Knight, "D" variant@ $120M/unit=$6 Bn
50 X Blue Knight, "C" variant@ $96M/unit= $4.8 Bn

Total: $64.8 Bn
With Discount: $60.9 Bn

Order will be completed by 5 years hence.

OOCish
PJ-12 BrahMos II Description

Primarily, the BrahMos II is an anti-ship missile. It has the capability to engage land based targets also. The missile can be launched either in vertical or inclined position and will cover 360 degrees. As an improved version of the original Indo-Russian PJ-10 BrahMos missile, the PJ-12 improves the range, speed, and capabilities of the original system. The special features of BrahMos are that it has a high supersonic velocity and a long flight range. Its shorter flight times lead to lower target dispersion and quicker engagement. The missile’s supersonic speed imparts a greater strike-power than other systems with equivalent warheads while the stealth features of the missile make it difficult to detect. The advantage of the missile is its higher destructive capability against ships aided by large kinetic energy of impact. It is universal for multiple platforms and has low radar signature.

The missile has identical configuration for land and maritime platforms. The air-launched version has a smaller booster and additional tail fins for stability during launch. The submarine-launched version is smaller, has a more limited range, and a smaller warhead but the striking power is almost equivalent.

Upon launch, the missile flies (in a normal Lo-Hi-Lo flight profile) to an altitude of about 14 km post launch before traveling at Mach 3 plus supersonic speed (guided by GPS and an inertial navigation system) to cover the distance to the target (which has had its initial location programmed into the missile and back-checked shortly before launch). Its mission computer exchanges data between the inertial and GPS navigation feeds to determine and adjust the heading of the missile. At a pre-set point of the trajectory (200-340 km), an active radar scanner precisely determines the location of a target. The seeker is then turned off to maintain radar stealth and the missile drops to an altitude of between 4 and 16 meters (depending upon the mission profile and the programmed height of the waves along the route) thus skimming the sea at supersonic speeds, the missile avoids detection. Once the missile is within a few km of where the target was spotted at the earlier seeking period, the radar seeker is reactivated (since only a few seconds are left before the missile will hit the target and there is not enough time for most CIWS to respond to the sudden emergence of this threat) and is used to guide the missile home. The missile, which usually follows the 'fire and forget' routine described above, has varied flight trajectories in order to avoid detection and prevent interception. The high cruise and terminal speed of the BrahMos is posing a significant challenge for the attacked target, as it leaves significantly less time for deployment of countermeasures.

Benefits:
- Long flight range with supersonic speed all through the flight
- Shorter flight times leading to lower target dispersion and quicker engagement
- Varied flight trajectories
- ‘Fire and forget’ principle of operation
- High destructive capability aided by the large kinetic energy of impact
- Higher effectiveness vs ship defenses
- Canister container for transportation, storage and launch

PJ-12 BrahMos II Variants
PJ-12-N (surface, Maritime launch)
PJ-12-L (surface, Land launched)
PJ-12-S (subsurface launch)
PJ-12-A (Air launched)

Basic Statistics of the BrahMos II Family of Missiles
Mission: Stand-off Range High Speed Precision Strike
Primary Function: Air-to-Surface, Surface-to-Surface, and Subsurface-to-Surface, medium-range tactical supersonic cruise missile.
Targets: Maritime and Terrestrial surface.

Primary Contractors: GIAI and RAFAEL, Inc.
Guidance Contractors: Litton Guidance and Control (RAFAEL subdivision) and ElOp.

Launch Platforms (Tested and Proven):
Maritime Platforms (PJ-12-N and S): VLS-41 compatible vessels, Blue Knight LCS (Western Asian), Submarines equipped with 650mm torpedo launch tubes.

Land Platforms (PJ-12-L): M-148 BrahMos Missile Carrier (BMMC)

Air Platforms (PJ-12-A): Su-30MKI, B-52H "BUFF" Stratofortress (external)

Additional Launch Platforms (not yet approved or proven)
- BM-747 (Sleeveria)*
- BMV/A-7 ULA “GATEKEEPER” (Western Asian)*
- F-15I
- F/A-18E/F
- F-14E
* - [The XWM-16 Internal Rotary Multi-Use Weapons Dispenser (MUWD-IR) is under consideration fo use on with BMV/A-7 and BM-747 platforms.]

Specifications:
Dimensions:
PJ-12-A:
-Missile: 6.8 m (22ft 4in) length (with primary booster), 670 mm in diameter

PJ-12-N/L
-Launch container: 8.2 m (26ft 11in) length, 700 mm diameter.
-Missile: 8.0 m (26ft 3in) length (with primary and secondary boosters), 670 mm diameter.

PJ-12-S:
-Missile: 6.3 m (20ft 8in) length (with primary booster), 650 mm diameter.


Weight:
PJ-12-A: 2500 kg (5,511.5 lb) with primary, with a 300 kg (661.4 lb) warhead.

PJ-12-N/L: 2500 kg (5,511.5 lb); 3000 kg (6,613.8 lb) with secondary booster, with a 300 kg (661.4 lb) warhead.

PJ-12-S: 2300 kg (5,070.5 lb) with booster, with a 200 kg (440.9 lb) warhead.


Range:
PJ-12-A (Hi-Lo flight profile): 390 km
PJ-12-N/L (Lo-Hi-Lo flight profile): 370km;
PJ-12-N/L (Lo-Lo flight profile): 180km
PJ-12-S (Lo-Lo flight profile): 160km*

(Lo = 10 (+/- 6) m altitude, Hi = 14,000 (+/- 3,000) m altitude)
*- Lo-Hi-Lo flight profile not available for S model due to lack of secondary booster.

Speed:
PJ-12 (all variants):
- Slow Cruise: 1.8 Mach (search & destroy mode)
- High/Normal Cruise: 3.0+ Mach (nominal), 3.6 Mach (specific)
- Max: 3.8 Mach

Engine: GIMC liquid fuel ramjet engine.


Guidance System:
Manufacturers: Litton Guidance and Control (RAFAEL subdivision) and ElOp.
Seeker: dual seeker (Active Radar and Terrain Matching)
Guidance: Inertial and GPS.

Features:
It has a preset programmable trajectory but a sensor on the head detects the target and can change its course to strike up to 45 km from the targeted range (in search and destroy mode, otherwise up to 20 km off of the targeted range). The missile also has a device (shared with the Gabriel IV(LR) ASMs) to skim at near-surface level (about 10 m). The missile is able to operate against ships in one of two modes: Preset Attack (PA) or Search and Destroy (SD).

In the "SD" mode, the BrahMos II is guided by an INS (IDF ship) into the target area, with altitude maintained by a radar altimeter. It then turns on its active radar seeker to lock onto and attack the largest identifiable target after a search. In the “PA" mode, the missile is guided into the area by its GPS system (or by terrain matching, against land targets when available) and then seeks out the assigned target. By this means, the missile can travel into the target area before activating its radar scanners. Against land targets, only the PA mode may be used.

Minimum target detection range: 60 km (radar)


Unit Costs:
PJ-12-N/L: $1.8 M
PJ-12-A: $2.0 M
PJ-12-S: $2.3 M


Information about the BrahMos Missile Carrier

Key Data: M-148 BrahMos Missile Carrier (BMMC)
Crew: Three crew: driver, gunner, section chief

Weight: 24,000 kg (with missiles, crew, fuel)

Dimensions:
- Length: 11 m
- Width: 2.4 m
- Height: 3.9m (Deployed), 2.7m (stowed for transport by C-130)

Performance:
- Vehicle range: 460 km
- Road speed: 85 km/h

Missiles Carried: 3

Air Transportable by: C-130J (with minor adjustments), C-17, C-5, CH-53 (slung, without missiles loaded or crew), C-200 PelicanULTRA, CV-1B Condors (CVUs), and CV/A-5b, CV/A-6, and CV/A-7 ULAs.

Description:
BMMC will be fully interoperable with and use the same existing command and control support systems as the M270 MLRS and the M142 HIMARS launchers. BMMC will also utilize the standard Army Logistical Support System. The purpose of the BMMC is to engage and defeat enemy naval units and fortified or entrenched land targets. Deployment of BMMC makes it very difficult for an enemy force to land amphibious forces or to even approach a normal combat range. The range and maneuverability of the system means that it can be used against enemy ships even from far inland. The BMMC is able to launch its weapons and move away from the area at high speed before enemy forces are able to locate the launch site. The BMMC also uses a loading system similar to that of the M270 and HIMARS, so as to limit crew training time and simplify operations.

The BMMC (launcher) consists of a carrier (automotive portion) and a Fire Control system (FCS) that computes all fire mission data and a Launcher-Loader Module (LLM) portion that will perform all operations necessary to complete a fire mission. The BMMC will also conduct reload operations with the use of a reload arm assembly. BMMC retains the same self-loading and autonomous features installed on the M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) and the HIMARS. The BMMC’s fire control system, electronics and communications units are able to communicate with allied naval and air units in order to accomplish mission objectives. The launcher unit is equipped with an onboard land navigation system. This allows the crew to remain within the safety of the armored cabin while accurately monitoring their position.

The BMMC is operated by a crew of three - a driver, gunner and section chief - but the computer-based fire control system enables a crew of two or even a single soldier to load and unload the system. The fire control system includes video, keyboard control, several gigabytes of program storage and global positioning system. The fire control computer allows firing missions to be carried out in automatic or manual mode and the FCS can even be set up to accept launch orders from allied ships (with proper authorization codes).

The BMMC is mounted on a modified IDF Army Corps FMTV (Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles) 6x6 all-wheel drive 5-ton truck (augmented to 8-ton class). This system uses a wheeled transport vehicle (as in the HIMARS) versus the tracked transport system of MLRS. A BMMC section consists of a launcher, one resupply vehicle (RSVs) and one resupply trailer (RSTs). The RSV is a medium tactical vehicle truck with an onboard Hiab crane and secure radio communications. The RST is modified to be an 8-ton class trailer. Both the RSV and RST can carry two missile launch pods

I am most obliged for the construction and delivery of the Blue Knight class vessels. They will certainly improve the LRRN's coastal defense capabilities.

Besides, after I got rid of the Son House class missile boat, I don't really have anywheres to go.

Do you think you could sell me mabye a hundred or so Saar 4 or 4.5 missile boats, or the production rights to such craft?

Also, I would be very much interested in the production rights to the BrahMos II missile. Since LRR already operates the original BrahMos, many on truck launchers, it would probably not be a bad idea to upgrade. After all, it looks as though the variant you have come up with here has a good 50km longer range.

Also, in LRR service the BrahMos missile has been launched from the centerline munitions pod of a SEPECAT/HAL Jaguar IM Mk. 2. Perhaps tests with the II missile could be carried out to determine the capacity of the Jaguar IM Mk. 2 to launch the upgraded BrahMos?

Also, it would be good for LRR purposes to test if the BrahMos II could be launched from the large number of Veer (Tarantul, Indian navy designation) missile FACs.

I am most obliged for the construction and delivery of the Blue Knight class vessels. They will certainly improve the LRRN's coastal defense capabilities.
We are of course pleased to hear of satisfied customers and we hope that these vessels serve your nation well.

OOC: Please note that I upped the capacity for the B-variant (WA mod 1) to 6 BrahMos II missiles (I had a math error that made me believe that only one could fit...I could probably fit in 8 if I really squeezed it, but I'm thinking instead of putting some smaller ASM (like the harpoon) or maybe an ATGM that can be guided from within the ship into the extra space. I think that I also messed up the numbers of a few other missiles so I'm going to need to work on that a bit (it seems like the Gabriel III and IV should each pick up 2 more missiles, etc.)

Besides, after I got rid of the Son House class missile boat, I don't really have anywheres to go.

Do you think you could sell me mabye a hundred or so Saar 4 or 4.5 missile boats, or the production rights to such craft?

OOC: The Son House always looked just fine to me, but I guess if you didn't want it then you don't...

IC: On account of the good previous relations between WA and LRR we would be happy to provide your nation with these vessels and production rights. We will send over 4 ships (2 of each type) for initial training and familiarization purposes and WAAMA technical reps will advise your industry on producing the ships. Some of the subsystems will be produced in WA (such as El Op gear and certain electronics components) but we foresee LRR being responsible for about 90% of the ships' components.

Our reps can agree on a price in private meetings.(OOC: Enjoy them.)

Also, I would be very much interested in the production rights to the BrahMos II missile. Since LRR already operates the original BrahMos, many on truck launchers, it would probably not be a bad idea to upgrade. After all, it looks as though the variant you have come up with here has a good 50km longer range.

Also, in LRR service the BrahMos missile has been launched from the centerline munitions pod of a SEPECAT/HAL Jaguar IM Mk. 2. Perhaps tests with the II missile could be carried out to determine the capacity of the Jaguar IM Mk. 2 to launch the upgraded BrahMos?

Also, it would be good for LRR purposes to test if the BrahMos II could be launched from the large number of Veer (Tarantul, Indian navy designation) missile FACs.

OOC: I think that the Tarantul is supposed to be able to launch an insane number of the BrahMos missiles, something on the order of 8-12 (4-6/side)...good choice.

Also, can the Jaguar normally carry that much weight? Do you happen to know if other (US styled) aircraft can bear 2.5 tons on wing or centerline stations? From all indications, the F-15E should be able to carry 2 JP-12-As as well as 4 AIM-120-class missiles and 500rds of gun ammo. The F/A-18E/F should also be able to carry 1-3 JP-12-As (2 at internal wing stores stations, one along a centerline station...possibly could have some additional fuel tanks on there as well without too much of an issue...of course the Super Hornet might be too heavy to land on an AC with 3 missiles (if there's an uneventful intercept attempt) so only 1 might be loaded for normal patrols) as well as a few AAMs (2-4, depending on loadings and fuel issues, etc.) and some gun ammo. In spite of all of the circumstantial evidence, however, these US birds never seem to carry anything quite so heavy as a BrahMos (although I figure if the Su-30MKI can then these should be able to do similarly).

IC: At this time, production rights for the BrahMos II cannot be sold due to rules under the Weapons Trade Control Board. These units can, however, be sold to a limited list of trusted nations and a long-term/high volume contract could be produced.

As far as your truck units operating the BrahMos II missiles, they might need to undergo some minor hardware and software modification in order to allow the launch unit to properly program and launch the missile. The modular canister that the PJ-12-L is currently stored in might not work well with your current system, but the manufacturers could surely arrange to load the missiles into a launch tube similar to that which was used on the old BrahMos missile carriers.

As for the testing of the Jaguar IM Mk. 2, we would be happy to arrange for a test of the system using a practice round. The WAAMA engineers might need a few months to modify the old BrahMos launch software on your test Jaguar so that the full capabilities can be used, but we are eager to see any new platform for the BrahMos II.

OOC: I'm in a bit of rush, so sorry for the short post, but I'll be able to reply tonight or tomorrow morning.

Confidental//
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To: WAAMA; Associated authorities
From: Omzian Ministry of National Defence

Subject//
Message//
As the Omzian Ministry of National Defence has reviewed the specifications and capabilities of the PJ-12 Brahmos II, we are satisfied to announce that all three services of the Omzian military has announced their interest into adopting the PJ-12 as one of the major supersonic missiles within Omzian service, to complement existing supersonic missiles of similar models. The compability with the Mk.41 and the availability of canisters designed for the missile has proved to be a major benefit, and the Undersea Warfare Department is also attracted by the missile. Because of this, we announce a joint requirement and a proposal for the following contract:

Army
720x M148 BrahMos Missile Carriers to outfit a total of 15 Surface-to-Surface Missile Regiments primarily in ground attack employing the use of supersonic missiles;
5210x PJ-12-L Missiles for use by M148 BMMCs;

Air Force
6300x PJ-12-A Air-Launched Missiles for use by existing F/A-18s, F-14s, Omzian-FDI F/A-40 Fighter Bombers (F-15E replacement), B-52s, and other large bombers for fulfilling both anti-shipping and land strike capabilities;

Navy
1536x PJ-12-N for use by current Blue Knight LCS vessels;
6500x PJ-12-N for use by surface vessels within Mk.41 VLS;
4600x PJ-12-S for use by current guided missile and attack submarines;
6200x PJ-12-A for use by the Naval Aviation Corps;
480x M148 Brahmos Missile Carriers for use by Omzian Naval Marine Corps Coastal Defence Brigades against surface targets in defence of Omzian coasts and naval bases;
3600x PJ-12-L for use by the M148 carriers.

As we send out our proposal, we eagerly awaits for a response, as we find these missiles to be highly satisfying, and as we trust our counterparts at GINY and WAAMA for their manufacturing capabilities and the qualities of the weapon systems as top-of-the-line, precision-engineered missiles. If additional exchanges are required in order to obtain these excellent units, then we are sure that we would have some products to offer.

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Confidental//
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To: WAAMA; Associated authorities
From: Omzian Ministry of National Defence

Subject//
Message//
As the Omzian Ministry of National Defence has reviewed the specifications and capabilities of the PJ-12 Brahmos II, we are satisfied to announce that all three services of the Omzian military has announced their interest into adopting the PJ-12 as one of the major supersonic missiles within Omzian service, to complement existing supersonic missiles of similar models. The compability with the Mk.41 and the availability of canisters designed for the missile has proved to be a major benefit, and the Undersea Warfare Department is also attracted by the missile. Because of this, we announce a joint requirement and a proposal for the following contract:

Army
720x M148 BrahMos Missile Carriers to outfit a total of 15 Surface-to-Surface Missile Regiments primarily in ground attack employing the use of supersonic missiles;
5210x PJ-12-L Missiles for use by M148 BMMCs;

Air Force
6300x PJ-12-A Air-Launched Missiles for use by existing F/A-18s, F-14s, Omzian-FDI F/A-40 Fighter Bombers (F-15E replacement), B-52s, and other large bombers for fulfilling both anti-shipping and land strike capabilities;

Navy
1536x PJ-12-N for use by current Blue Knight LCS vessels;
6500x PJ-12-N for use by surface vessels within Mk.41 VLS;
4600x PJ-12-S for use by current guided missile and attack submarines;
6200x PJ-12-A for use by the Naval Aviation Corps;
480x M148 Brahmos Missile Carriers for use by Omzian Naval Marine Corps Coastal Defence Brigades against surface targets in defence of Omzian coasts and naval bases;
3600x PJ-12-L for use by the M148 carriers.

As we send out our proposal, we eagerly awaits for a response, as we find these missiles to be highly satisfying, and as we trust our counterparts at GINY and WAAMA for their manufacturing capabilities and the qualities of the weapon systems as top-of-the-line, precision-engineered missiles. If additional exchanges are required in order to obtain these excellent units, then we are sure that we would have some products to offer.

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MEMO to OMND (clipping)
In light of the large order of Omzian PJ-12-A missiles for the F-18E/F, F-14, and for the native F-15E/I replacement, the process for testing and approving the BrahMos for operational employment from these units, as well as the F-15E/I, is being accelerated. The program is already 15 months going and the main limitation was the software interfacing. The initial flight tests to test for weight, aerodynamics, and flight maneuvers have been completed and it is expected that the final approval for these units will come by the end of the coming year.

OOC: I'm assuming that your F-15 replacement uses software that is similar enough for a quick transition...I'm also assuming that either your nation or the IDF-AC will test your plane for flight issues with these weapons. The F-14F will be able to carry 2 + 2-4 AAMs. The F-15E/I (or a plane with similar load capabilities) will bear 2 JP-12-As as well as 4 AIM-120-class missiles and 500rds of gun ammo. The F/A-18E/F will carry 1-3 JP-12-As (2 at internal wing stores stations, one along a centerline station) plus 2-4 AAMs.


-CONFIDENTIAL-
From: WAAMA International Sales Group
To: Omzian Ministry of National Defence
CC: WA-MoD, Weapons Export Control Board, Weapons Technology Control Board.

Subject: Re: Contract for BrahMos II missiles and missile carriers

Honorable Sirs,

We are, of course, pleased that you are pleased with our BrahMos missile system and the associated missile carriers. We hope that you will continue to be well served by these and other WAAMA products. The line item bill for the requested contract follows.

Customer: Omzian Army
- 720, M148 BrahMos Missile Carriers@$180,000/unit = $ 129.6M
Purpose: To outfit a total of 15 Surface-to-Surface Missile Regiments primarily in ground attack employing the use of supersonic missiles;

- 720, BMMC Support Team@ $140,000/team = $100.8 M
Purpose: To support the 15 StS Missile Regiments employing M148 BMMCs. Consists of 1, M1092 Resupply Vehicle (RSV) and 1, M1096 8-ton Resupply Trailer (RST) per team;

- 5210, PJ-12-L Missiles@ $1.8M/unit = $9.378 Bn
Purpose: For use by M148 BMMCs;

Customer: Omzian Air Force
- 6300, PJ-12-A Missiles@ $2.0M = $12.6 Bn
Purpose: For use by existing F/A-18s, F-14s, Omzian-FDI F/A-40 Fighter Bombers (F-15E replacement), B-52s, and other large bombers for fulfilling both anti-shipping and land strike capabilities;
Notes: PJ-12-A integration for F/A-18s, F-14s, and the F/A-40 are in progress. Missiles will be delivered with instructions for

Customer: Omzian Navy
- 1536, PJ-12-N/L Missiles@ $1.8M/unit = $2.7648 Bn
Purpose: For use by Blue Knight LCS vessels currently owned by the OMND;

- 6500, PJ-12-N/L Missiles@ $1.8M/unit = $11.7 Bn
Purpose: For use by surface vessels within Mk.41 VLS;

- 4600, PJ-12-S Missiles@ $2.3M = $10.58 Bn
Purpose: for use by current OMN guided missile and attack submarines;

- 6200, PJ-12-A Missiles@ $2.0M = $12.4 Bn
Purpose: For use by the Naval Aviation Corps;

- 480, M148 BrahMos Missile Carriers@ $180,000/unit = $86.4 M
Purpose: For use by Omzian Naval Marine Corps Coastal Defense Brigades against surface targets in defense of Omzian coasts and naval bases;

-480, BMMC Support Team@ $140,000/team = $ 67.2 M
Purpose: To support the Coastal Defense Brigades employing M148 BMMCs. Consists of 1, M1092 Resupply Vehicle (RSV) and 1, M1096 8-ton Resupply Trailer (RST) per team;

- 3600, PJ-12-N/L Missiles@ $1.8M/unit = $6.48 Bn
Purpose: For use by the ONMC-CDB M148 carriers.

Customer: MoND
- Spare parts and technical support. $ 2.65 Bn

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TOTAL: $68.9368 Bn
With Discount: $66.2854 Bn

The vehicles will all be completed in 3 years' time but the missiles will take as long as 4 and a half years to be completed.

OOC: I added in the support vehicle and trailer so that your missile groups are completely together.

OOC: Hmm, didn't see the edit yesterday, but seems pretty good. As you might have guessed, each Regiment has 48 missile launchers, all the support equipment, and the likes. Happy New Year btw! /OOC

//-CONFIDENTIAL-//
To: WAAMA International Sales Group
From: Omzian Ministry of National Defence

Subject: RE RE Contract for BrahMos II missiles and missile carriers

The Omzian Ministry of National Defence and the Omzian Homeland Defence Forces are delighted to hear about the approval of the sale of these systems for use by the Omzian Armed Forces. As we understand that this is a large order, we are grateful that the order is already underway with manufacturing of these units already starting as of now, and as we also take into account WAAMA's considerationm when recommending us the support vehicles.

The integration of the missile onto the F/A-40A of he Omzian Air Force and Navy however, will be a similar matter, as currently a total of three aircraft from the Omzian Air Force's 43rd Strike Fighter Wing is enroute to Western Asia, along with a small business jet carrying the engineer teams and their equipment. Weh ope that the integration would go well, and we thank WAAMA for their consideration for this matter.

In regards to the monetary funds, we inquire if it is possible to transfer the sum within a total of thirty-two installments/portions within a time span of three years, if possible, as we find this to be a large sum of money. We determine each installment to be $2,071,418,750, as we are also grateful for the discount.

With this deal, we expect that not only the Omzian military will have their strike capabilities improved, but also that relationships between the Western Asian contractors and the Omzian military improves, as one of the proven arms contractors that the Omzian military trusts.

Regards.

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Would like to purchase:

10 Blue Night (A's)
10 Blue Night (B's)
10 Blue Night (D's)
15 Blue Night (E's)

All adding to a total of 5.9 Billion USD, will be wired on confirmation.

P.S~ For such a good and unique design, round price up to 6 Billion. Thank you.

We are of course pleased to hear of satisfied customers and we hope that these vessels serve your nation well.

OOC: Please note that I upped the capacity for the B-variant (WA mod 1) to 6 BrahMos II missiles (I had a math error that made me believe that only one could fit...I could probably fit in 8 if I really squeezed it, but I'm thinking instead of putting some smaller ASM (like the harpoon) or maybe an ATGM that can be guided from within the ship into the extra space. I think that I also messed up the numbers of a few other missiles so I'm going to need to work on that a bit (it seems like the Gabriel III and IV should each pick up 2 more missiles, etc.)



OOC: The Son House always looked just fine to me, but I guess if you didn't want it then you don't...

IC: On account of the good previous relations between WA and LRR we would be happy to provide your nation with these vessels and production rights. We will send over 4 ships (2 of each type) for initial training and familiarization purposes and WAAMA technical reps will advise your industry on producing the ships. Some of the subsystems will be produced in WA (such as El Op gear and certain electronics components) but we foresee LRR being responsible for about 90% of the ships' components.

Our reps can agree on a price in private meetings.(OOC: Enjoy them.)



OOC: I think that the Tarantul is supposed to be able to launch an insane number of the BrahMos missiles, something on the order of 8-12 (4-6/side)...good choice.

Also, can the Jaguar normally carry that much weight? Do you happen to know if other (US styled) aircraft can bear 2.5 tons on wing or centerline stations? From all indications, the F-15E should be able to carry 2 JP-12-As as well as 4 AIM-120-class missiles and 500rds of gun ammo. The F/A-18E/F should also be able to carry 1-3 JP-12-As (2 at internal wing stores stations, one along a centerline station...possibly could have some additional fuel tanks on there as well without too much of an issue...of course the Super Hornet might be too heavy to land on an AC with 3 missiles (if there's an uneventful intercept attempt) so only 1 might be loaded for normal patrols) as well as a few AAMs (2-4, depending on loadings and fuel issues, etc.) and some gun ammo. In spite of all of the circumstantial evidence, however, these US birds never seem to carry anything quite so heavy as a BrahMos (although I figure if the Su-30MKI can then these should be able to do similarly).

IC: At this time, production rights for the BrahMos II cannot be sold due to rules under the Weapons Trade Control Board. These units can, however, be sold to a limited list of trusted nations and a long-term/high volume contract could be produced.

As far as your truck units operating the BrahMos II missiles, they might need to undergo some minor hardware and software modification in order to allow the launch unit to properly program and launch the missile. The modular canister that the PJ-12-L is currently stored in might not work well with your current system, but the manufacturers could surely arrange to load the missiles into a launch tube similar to that which was used on the old BrahMos missile carriers.

As for the testing of the Jaguar IM Mk. 2, we would be happy to arrange for a test of the system using a practice round. The WAAMA engineers might need a few months to modify the old BrahMos launch software on your test Jaguar so that the full capabilities can be used, but we are eager to see any new platform for the BrahMos II.


OCC: Yeah, I don't know why I dumped the Son House. Aesthetic concerns, mostly, I think. You never know with me.

About the Jaguar...well, I figure that, if I stick some better engines in there and give the plane a bigger wing, it might be able to heft a BrahMos into the air. I don't know...I think my main fighter type, the FA. 5, is probably too small to carry such a big payload. Mabye a couple RBS-15 class missiles, but nothing much bigger. On any occasion, it would definately be at a discernable price in range.

I've seen pictures of Indian navy Veers...er...Tarantuls with 16 SSN-25 "Kayak" ASMs. The nice thing about them is that they can (I believe, at least they can on the Indian Navy's type 25 Kora class corvette) be ripple-fired in several seconds.

I am somewhat surprised to hear the BrahMos installed on them in such volume. The SSN-25 is a smallish missile, with a 130km range, but I have also seen pictures of Veers with BrahMos missiles on them. Eh, whatever.

IC:

The state armories are very happy upon the approval of their requests.

The current APC model, the APC-3, a vehicle based very heavily on the SEP, has some design features that might be found useful by your armed forces. For example, it has a V-shaped hull and adjustable suspension (adjustable suspensions are found on the T-54 family of tanks, I think). The state armories would like to offer to provide you with APC-3s to examine how to incorperate such features into your armored vehicles. After all, there has always been a good history of cooperation between LRR and Western Asia.

Perhaps we should start a parallel modernization program. I could definately use one, since a lot of my tank force is still made up of T-62s and Centurions, although a fair amount of modern types have found their way in there too.

Also, have you ever considered the Nimrod missile? I think that could be a very useful weapon in both our militaries. I already produce a copy of the Nimrod designated AT-30, which is lacking in accuracy but is good because of its range. It is designed to be fired from a modified Grad MRL. In fact, a lot of my weaponry is strikingly similar to Israeli armements.

OOC: Hmm, didn't see the edit yesterday, but seems pretty good. As you might have guessed, each Regiment has 48 missile launchers, all the support equipment, and the likes. Happy New Year btw!
OOC: I put up the edit last morning sometime. A Happy New Year to you too! As far as the support goes, the recommended might be 2 support teams/launcher (as it is for the HIMARS) but I figured that it's probably less of an issue for an ASM battery than for an MLRS battery (and these missiles are slightly more expensive and more sophisticated than the MLRS rockets...)

//-CONFIDENTIAL-//
To: WAAMA International Sales Group
From: Omzian Ministry of National Defence

Subject: RE RE Contract for BrahMos II missiles and missile carriers

The Omzian Ministry of National Defence and the Omzian Homeland Defence Forces are delighted to hear about the approval of the sale of these systems for use by the Omzian Armed Forces. As we understand that this is a large order, we are grateful that the order is already underway with manufacturing of these units already starting as of now, and as we also take into account WAAMA's considerationm when recommending us the support vehicles.

The integration of the missile onto the F/A-40A of he Omzian Air Force and Navy however, will be a similar matter, as currently a total of three aircraft from the Omzian Air Force's 43rd Strike Fighter Wing is enroute to Western Asia, along with a small business jet carrying the engineer teams and their equipment. Weh ope that the integration would go well, and we thank WAAMA for their consideration for this matter.

In regards to the monetary funds, we inquire if it is possible to transfer the sum within a total of thirty-two installments/portions within a time span of three years, if possible, as we find this to be a large sum of money. We determine each installment to be $2,071,418,750, as we are also grateful for the discount.

With this deal, we expect that not only the Omzian military will have their strike capabilities improved, but also that relationships between the Western Asian contractors and the Omzian military improves, as one of the proven arms contractors that the Omzian military trusts.

Regards.

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-CONFIDENTIAL-
From: WAAMA International Sales Group
To: Omzian Ministry of National Defence
CC: WA-MoD, Weapons Export Control Board, Weapons Technology Control Board.

Subject: RE: Contract for BrahMos II missiles and missile carriers

Honorable Sirs,

We are glad to hear that everything is in order. The suggested payment plan is perfectly acceptable and any budgetary issues that may temporarily delay such payments are understandable.

As for your engineers and pilots, we greeted them this afternoon upon their arrival and the personnel have been shown to their accommodations. The first live-fire test of a BrahMos II practice round from an F-15I is scheduled for tomorrow and your pilots have been scheduled to be a part of the chase team. Your engineers are being briefed on the current stages of testing for each aircraft platform within the test series and our engineers look forward to discussing the weapons integration with the F/A-40A. Your pilots have been placed in housing with our test pilots and are currently enjoying a dinner in town with them.

If you have any more questions, requests, or, of course, orders then you know where you can get into contact with us. The first set of PJ-12s for delivery to Omz is being started in our factories as we type this email. We hope that you are well satisfied with this process.

- The WAAMA Int'l Sales Group

PS Feel free to fill out and return the WAAMA Warranty Card (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343112).

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Would like to purchase:

10 Blue Night (A's)
10 Blue Night (B's)
10 Blue Night (D's)
15 Blue Night (E's)

All adding to a total of 5.9 Billion USD, will be wired on confirmation.

P.S~ For such a good and unique design, round price up to 6 Billion. Thank you.

Because of the capabilities of the B-variant, it is required that WAAMA ask the purchasing nation to ascribe to a non-agression agreement with the government of Western Asia (if it does not already have such an agreement with Western Asia). If your nation is willing to make such an agreement then those units will be immediately shipped to you. As for the other units, a number of new-production Blue Knights that have yet to be fielded with the IDF Naval Corps will be diverted and shipped to your nation. We hope that this deal is acceptable.

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OOC TO LRR: I'll respond to your post tomorrow.

PIcaRDMPCia would like to purchase 200 A-varients at a cost of $27,000,000,000, please. Funds will be wired upon arrival of the ships.
-Adam Adamo, Finance Minister.

OCC: Yeah, I don't know why I dumped the Son House. Aesthetic concerns, mostly, I think. You never know with me.

About the Jaguar...well, I figure that, if I stick some better engines in there and give the plane a bigger wing, it might be able to heft a BrahMos into the air. I don't know...I think my main fighter type, the FA. 5, is probably too small to carry such a big payload. Mabye a couple RBS-15 class missiles, but nothing much bigger. On any occasion, it would definately be at a discernable price in range.

OOC: Sounds solid to me.

I've seen pictures of Indian navy Veers...er...Tarantuls with 16 SSN-25 "Kayak" ASMs. The nice thing about them is that they can (I believe, at least they can on the Indian Navy's type 25 Kora class corvette) be ripple-fired in several seconds.

I am somewhat surprised to hear the BrahMos installed on them in such volume. The SSN-25 is a smallish missile, with a 130km range, but I have also seen pictures of Veers with BrahMos missiles on them. Eh, whatever.

As far as the Tarantul's capacity, the ship (Tarantul III model, at least) is reportedly (linky!) (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/moskit.htm) able to bear 4 of the Moskit (SS-N-22) missiles, which are quite a bit larger (in diameter, length, and mass) than the PJ-10 or PJ-12. It would seem that anywhere from 4-6 BrahMos missiles might fit on each side of the ship...of course there's no room between the superstructure and the edge of the ship at that point, but it's nice to have (even if the Tarantul's radar isn't powerful enough to find the targets on its own)...maybe a datalink system to aircraft could allow fighters and the sort to act as forward spotters...this is on WA ships but maybe not a (non-upgraded) Tarantul-type ship.

IC:
The state armories are very happy upon the approval of their requests.

The current APC model, the APC-3, a vehicle based very heavily on the SEP, has some design features that might be found useful by your armed forces. For example, it has a V-shaped hull and adjustable suspension (adjustable suspensions are found on the T-54 family of tanks, I think). The state armories would like to offer to provide you with APC-3s to examine how to incorperate such features into your armored vehicles. After all, there has always been a good history of cooperation between LRR and Western Asia.

Perhaps we should start a parallel modernization program. I could definately use one, since a lot of my tank force is still made up of T-62s and Centurions, although a fair amount of modern types have found their way in there too.

Also, have you ever considered the Nimrod missile? I think that could be a very useful weapon in both our militaries. I already produce a copy of the Nimrod designated AT-30, which is lacking in accuracy but is good because of its range. It is designed to be fired from a modified Grad MRL. In fact, a lot of my weaponry is strikingly similar to Israeli armements.

We are sure that the IDF would appreciate an opportunity to observe the capabilities of the APC-3. As far as the modernization program goes, the IDF will have to respond to that issue.

The Nimrod is in use already with the IDF both as an air-launched and as a ground-launched system. It was at one point being considered for naval applications, but the Navalized LAR and MAR systems were eventually preferred for both price and capacity (since the guided LAR units are cheaper and can have a wider effect). The Nimrod might still be a viable naval system for larger ships wishing to defend against smaller attack vessels, however, and we'd be glad to work on the project.

The LRRN doesn't really use the AT-30, and I think I have tried some configurations witht the BM-21 aboard frigates and corvettes. I think the LAR would be a good investment.

The AT-30 is currently launched mostly from MRL platforms, such as the previously-mentioned Grad, as well as some modified APC-3s, but mostly from trucks. Some aircraft have been tested with it, but the LRRAF would rather have a smaller anti-tank missile that can be carried in larger quantities.

PIcaRDMPCia would like to purchase 200 A-varients at a cost of $27,000,000,000, please. Funds will be wired upon arrival of the ships.
-Adam Adamo, Finance Minister.

200 x Blue Knight LCS, A-Variant@$135M/unit= $27.0 Bn

A downpayment of at least 1/4 the price of the vessels is required before production can begin. The vessels will be completed and delivered over a period of 3 years due to current manufacturing backlog. Blocks of 20 vessels will be shipped at a time (an initial shipment is being sent now so as to push these vessels into service). Some payment (about equal to the fraction of the vessels being delivered out of 1/2 the total price) is expected upon delivery of each batch. The final 1/4 of the payment will be expected after the delivery of the last vessel. We hope that this is acceptable to your government.

Thank you for choosing WAAMA for your naval vessel needs.

200 x Blue Knight LCS, A-Variant@$135M/unit= $27.0 Bn

A downpayment of at least 1/4 the price of the vessels is required before production can begin. The vessels will be completed and delivered over a period of 3 years due to current manufacturing backlog. Blocks of 20 vessels will be shipped at a time (an initial shipment is being sent now so as to push these vessels into service). Some payment (about equal to the fraction of the vessels being delivered out of 1/2 the total price) is expected upon delivery of each batch. The final 1/4 of the payment will be expected after the delivery of the last vessel. We hope that this is acceptable to your government.

Thank you for choosing WAAMA for your naval vessel needs.
We will wire the funds immediately; thank you for selling us these vessals.
-Adam Adamo, Finance Minister
OOC: By the way, I'll consider three years to be three RL days, just so you know.

We will wire the funds immediately; thank you for selling us these vessals.
-Adam Adamo, Finance Minister
OOC: By the way, I'll consider three years to be three RL days, just so you know.
OOC: No problem, whatever floats your boat.