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In the rebuilding of Europe in the wake of the second world war,In the breakup up of the British Empire, Scotland demanded its independance and won it along with the Territory of Northern Ireland, Fascists won power in the state as Scotland tries to establish itself as a European Power.
Overseer McCann announced today interest in starting diplomatic with nations around europe. Unlike previous Fascist states, the Overseer is not interested in quarrels with communism, however is interested in a united front against parlimentary democracy, though it will speak with all nations.

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The Communist Party of East Soviet view's fascism as evil scum. But since we hate conflicts and you seek no interest in any quarrel with any communist nation, we would like to open an embassy in your capital. We will then work on trade agreements and other forms of treaties.

We shall agree, and proceed with relations cautiously.

The Commonwealth of Hirgizstan is considering opening an Embassy within Fascist Scotland.

We would like to warn you that to let a Communist nation establish an Embassy in your country is like opening your body to the flu. You may not wish for a quarrel with communism but you certainly do not want its vile and corrupt ideas threatening your nation. A communist embassy with spread their disease throughout your nation, under the eyes and ears of your security services, they will, like flu, infect your entire body until it either kills you or you throw it/them out. We suggest you do the latter.

If their embassy is removed we may establish our own and open diplomatic and economic arrangements with Fascist Scotland.

-COH-

OOC: Are you Scottish? Well I am and I take offence to that name! Nah only Joking :)

IC: Cam III is interested in opening an embassy...

We are interested in opening an embassy. But due to the Communist embassy near, we wish to have 100 paramilitary personnel at the embassy at all times, not including the 50 staff and Ambassador.

The United Imperium of Crossman will agree to diplomatic relations with your nation.

The Commonwealth of Hirgizstan is considering opening an Embassy within Fascist Scotland.

We would like to warn you that to let a Communist nation establish an Embassy in your country is like opening your body to the flu. You may not wish for a quarrel with communism but you certainly do not want its vile and corrupt ideas threatening your nation. A communist embassy with spread their disease throughout your nation, under the eyes and ears of your security services, they will, like flu, infect your entire body until it either kills you or you throw it/them out. We suggest you do the latter.

If their embassy is removed we may establish our own and open diplomatic and economic arrangements with Fascist Scotland.

-COH-

That was not the intentions of establishing an embassy in their capital. Our intentions are peaceful and diplomatic. We wish to get along with these fascist even though the two ideologies are enemies. I am insulted by your assumption that the communist party would do such a thing! My nation bids no harm to anyone of any political leanings.


Due to those verbal insults, I request that we will have additional security at the East Soviet's embassy.

It is not up to you whether you have an embassy or not.

If Fascist Scotland has done his homework then he'll know who to back.

I still wish to open diplomatic dialogue and hopefully and embassy with Fascist Scotland.

Again i re-iterate my assumptions about the disease of Communism, they defend their vulgarity with lies and try to defend against what everyone know's as the factful truth, that Communism is a disease, it spreads to every part of a nation, undermining the government, promision hard-working men and women a 'paradise' of Marxism. These are ALL empty lies, designed for one thing, to propel the leader of the cult to the position of power so he can exploit what he had promised to free.

-COH-

What about the "disease" of fascism? Controlling everything about their nation, using nationalism to create patriotism in their own nations. Instilling fear and terror to keep their people in line. Blaming someone else for the nation's problems, not themselves. You tell me that's not a disease.

I am not a fascist nation, but i have a good understanding of Fascism, and Fascism is not National Socialism which is what you are hinting at.

Fascism is a broad canvas, the only political ideology not fully formed with many burdening rules and guidelines. Communism was written by a social reject, Karl Marx. Someone who despised the wealth of those around him simply because he could not have this wealth himself. Thus he wrote an ideology that appeals to those jealous of weatlh and power, an ideology that appeals to the dregs of broken society. Lenin knew all about that, thats why not one single 'communist' nation is as Marx wanted it, every single Communist nation can be called a Dictatorship, our most prominent example being North Korea.

Communisn is a sickening ideology based on jealousy. It appeals to those of an empty, evil or lazy mind. Communism is what creates protests, communism creates dissention in the workplace, communism undermines the government and leadership of nations. Communism IS a disease.

In order for a nation to become strong the masses need to be led by those few who know exactly what they are doing. Lenin was a fool, he had no political or economic experience and turned Russia into one of the poorest countries in the world, look at North Korea today- Communism ALONE created that horror.

If people take to communism they doom themselves, they hand themselves over to incompotent fools who know nothing of politics or of how to run a country.

Lets take North Korea again, as an example.

You said Fascism creates a state of "Blaming someone else for the nation's problems, not themselves." Every time the power fails in Pyongyang, which is every day, then they blame the Americans for 'the international trade embargo' as one middle aged wife mentioned. Funnily enough there is NO trade embargo and there never was, the power shorting is caused because there is not enough electricity to power the city. They have no food, because the crops have failed 8 years in a row, yet they blame the Americans. THAT is the result of COMMUNISM.

-COH-

I classify National Socialism (Nazism aka Nationalsocialismus) as Fascism rather than Socialism, that is what the FC is. A Nazi nation. And in Hirgizstan's defense, I do not believe he was stating that you would deliberatly pressure communism on FS, but maybe one person, a male father perhaps would find it appealing. He would tell his wife, his wife may find it appealing. They would teach their children, and the children would teach their friends, and like a virus it would consume and multiply till is Communist Scottland instead of Fascist.

That holds a certain truth regarding the point i was making and i thank you for your further clarification of it.

It would also seem that a starting point for this virus would be at the East Soviet Embassy. Thus if FS allows this embassy within its borders then you are risking bringing a deadly disease/virus into your country that will surely infect the people of FS, you cannot allow your nation to fall ill at the hands of communism.

-COH-

Since we're picking examples here, what about Nazi Germany, a different form of fascism. Or Italy with Mussolini, another fascist nation there. How about Spain with that Franco guy? They are all fasicts! They are all dictators of their nations! They blamed their nation's problems on Jews, the gypsies, the communists, the left wing, and everyone who were against them! They sent their problems to the concentration camps. In Germany, they used nationalism to encourage Germans to believe that the ayran race is the only race this world should have!

In Marxist's theory, he believed that everyone is equal, no matter what their religion, sex, age, color, or whatever are. He believed that there should be no state, he believed the worker's and the people should rule their nation. Those examples you listed (including Russia and NK), aren't communist states, only socialist at best. They were ruled by the communist party but didn't practice true communism. That's why we got dictators in those nations such as Stalin and Kim Jong Il (whatever his name is). You do not call those people communists.

But my advisors had spoken with me and this deal between East Soviet and Fascist Scottland will be cancelled.

Good day.

Now we also see how weak and politically incompotent a Communist leadership is.

One of the facts that any able-minded politically-interested person can see is that Communism, in theory, sounds oh so nice, everyone equal and all that.
The only problem is that in human nature Communism cannot work, someone is always better than the other in many, many different ways, no one can ever truly be equal. And it is in this point that we see how very stupid Marx was. From this very point we can proove that he was nothing more than a daydreamer and an underachiever at best. Communism cannot and will not ever work, it is against the very existence of humanity for it to work, and i think Stalin summed it up best when he said 'No man, no problem'. Here he was ironically pointing out exactly what is wrong with communism, it won't work with people.

I, however, am still interested in an embassy.

-COH-

I'm a proud Fascist country. And I'd appreciate if you capitolized Fascist/Fascism and the like, considering I capitolized Communism when the general if not entire consensus of the FC despises Marxism and the like. And don't bring Nazi Germany into this or I'll have to bring in what Stalin and Lenin did.

The Dictatorship of Wankania would make a witty reply, but we're new and have no idea how to play. Bah.

Witty Reply?

Just look at your name, you don't need no witty reply with that!

Public Announcment from the Head of Propagande, Kris Georbells:
Due to the sudden outbreak of aggressive actions in an embassy conference debating deals with communists and Fascist Scottland, FC still wishes to have an embassy in place. But, now the embassy will be in place with 200 paramilitary personnel, 100 Waffen-SS soldiers, 50 Staff, and one ambassador. Here are the rest of the specs:

200 Paramilitary Troops - Armed With: FM-60, .45 Luger
100 Waffen-SS Soldiers - Armed With: HK-78 Assault Rifle, .44 Beretta, Panzershreck Missle Launcher
50 Staff - Armed With: 9mm Pistol
Ambassador - Armed With: 9mm Pistol
3 Panzer Tanks - Armed With: Main Turrent, 50 Caliber Machine Gun, 30 Caliber Cannon
1 Armored Limo - Armed With: Nothing

If FS agrees to the following terms, pelase contact us. For the reason we have these terms is to protect ourselves and beliefs from the communist parasite.

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Kris Georbells,
Head of Propaganda.

I tried to open relations with fascists, but alas it had failed. Fascism (along with marxism/communism) will never work. Your views on our nation's beliefs had spat on the treaty. I bid you all good day.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs, Georgi Yankavich, left the room along with his advisors and headed back to East Soviet.

The Dictatorship of Sgurtzlandia is interested in opening diplomatic relations with your country. However we disagree on tryies to establish any kind of peaceful and good-will exchange with communist governments. How you can see yourself it's not possible to do. It's not a quarrel.

The Iron Guard of Luciferius is willing to open up an embassy in FS and engage in diplomatic relations as well. While the State leadership of Luciferius believes that whomever FS chooses to engage in good relations with is the business of your State, we are very wary of relations with Communists and would hope that FS would seriously reconsider such a decision, may that be the case.

However, FS's dealing with Communists does not mean that Luciferius would withdraw it's support. We are always here for our Comrades in Fascism. Our Embassy would also be heavily guarded by our Iron Guards. Send a telegram for further negotiations.

Comrade Kennith Xavior
Secretary of Foreign Affairs.
_________________
FASCISM FORWARD!

I would say that to avoid any mishaps that there are to be no military or paramilitary forces present in any embassy.

Instead use an Internal Service Department to organise embassy protection on a federal level.

-COH-

We are interested in opening an embassy. But due to the Communist embassy near, we wish to have 100 paramilitary personnel at the embassy at all times, not including the 50 staff and Ambassador.
You are welcome to but keep in mind the Communist Ambassy will be under close watch. We do not seek quarrel with them but they shall recieve the treatment of any other oppositional movement, an embassy engaged in acts of propoganda or espianage will be stripped of diplomatic immunity immediately.

Due to those verbal insults, I request that we will have additional security at the East Soviet's embassy.
Request denied.

East Soviet pulled out of wanting an embassy, he no longer wishes to have one.

He said:

"But my advisors had spoken with me and this deal between East Soviet and Fascist Scottland will be cancelled."

Who will you accept to have Embassies within your nation?

-COH-

Cam III, Fascist Confederacy, Hirgizstan are all welcome to embassies, eagerly payed for by our own government.
If Fascist Scotland has done his homework then he'll know who to back.
Of course my first and most dearest loyalty is to Fascism, I just regard communism as a secondary menace to democracy.

We thank the Government of Fascist Scotland for aiding the development of Diplomatic relations in the name of Nationalism.

We would like to help the Government of FS by pledging 5 Billion USD ($) in order to tackle the problems inherent with a new political system.

We would also like to point you torward our Arm's Sales threads:

M1A1/M1A2 Abrams Tanks:

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AV-8B Harrier 2+:

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Amphibious Assault Vehicle:

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Look out for the Commonwealth of Hirgizstan Land Warfare Storefront- coming soon!

Here's a useful link to help calculate and better understand your nations finances:

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-COH-

The Sultanate of Gruenberg would be very keen to exchange embassies with Fascist Scotland. We await your reply eagerly.

The United Socialist States of Peopleita will have no relations with a facsist country.

OOC: Celtic or Rangers?

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Fascist Scotland

The Republic of Torontia would like to establish relations with Fascist Scotland.

We are to open an embassy in your capital city within the next month.

Toronita would also like to warn Fascist Scotland about the terrorist nation of Peopleita.

Peopleita is involved in a huge communist plot to destroy all nations and conduct a global genocide.

Beware of them, never lower your guard against the communist beast!

President Paul Kaufman

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Fascist Scotland

The Republic of Torontia would like to establish relations with Fascist Scotland.

We are to open an embassy in your capital city within the next month.

Toronita would also like to warn Fascist Scotland about the terrorist nation of Peopleita.

Peopleita is involved in a huge communist plot to destroy all nations and conduct a global genocide.

Beware of them, never lower your guard against the communist beast!

President Paul Kaufman

This man is not sane

The Republic of Bretar deeply mourns the loss of freedoms in your nation. The Bretarian PM's family is of Scottish decent, and your nation's fall into fascism saddens him.

As is Bretar's stance with all like governments, Bretar will not trade in any form with Fascist Scotland, it will however, offer to open an embassy to monitor human rights.

Any of Fascists Scotland's citizens seeking asylum will be granted it in Bretar.

Also, to Peopleita, it is good to see a nation of similar values to our own.

And the vile communist plot thickens!

And the vile communist plot thickens!

The Republic is DEEPLY offended by such a remark. We would ask Torontia to check the very large difference between communism and demmocratic socialism.

Not to mention that the idea of Bretar being in any conspiracy is absurd, we are a rather insular nation.

The Republic is DEEPLY offended by such a remark. We would ask Torontia to check the very large difference between communism and demmocratic socialism.

Not to mention that the idea of Bretar being in any conspiracy is absurd, we are a rather insular nation.

Kaufman is a McCarthyist ignore him, or join me and my allies who will crush him when he invades me.

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Bretar

There is NO difference between communism, anarchism, 'democratic' socialism and social 'democracy'.

They are all vile ideologies that believe in the stupid and evil concept of human 'equality'!

Humans never were, never are and never will be equal, that is the law of nature!

At least fascism can met the needs of the people, unlike any leftist ideology.

President Paul Kaufman

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Bretar

There is NO difference between communism, anarchism, 'democratic' socialism and social 'democracy'.

They are all vile ideologies that believe in the stupid and evil concept of human 'equality'!

Humans never were, never are and never will be equal, that is the law of nature!

At least fascism can met the needs of the people, unlike any leftist ideology.

President Paul Kaufman

You may well have lost the little support you had with that statement.

Kaufman is a McCarthyist ignore him, or join me and my allies who will crush him when he invades me.

Though the Republic despises Torontia's consummerist goverment, we are not a nation taken to warring lightly. We wil however, defend other demmocratic nations from Tyranny.

The Republic would also like to (some what jokingly) note that Torontia is a rather..well.....tiny nation, and the idea of it invading anyone is laughable.

The People's Republic of Dextarium would like to extend it's hand in offering to exchange Diplomatic Embassies with your fine people. Upon your granting our Ambassador entry, we will be pleased to do the same. We look forward to a long and industrious relationship with our fellow Fascist State. Hail Victory!

The Armed Republic Of Ruthenberg would be very keen to exchange embassies with Fascist Scotland. We await your reply eagerly.

Hail-

Greetings from Skgorria!

We ourselves are a nation and people comitted to the glorious way of life that is National Socialism. This makes our two nations ideological brothers-in-arms, and thus we should act like it.

Skgorria is proud to support Fascist and National Socialistgroups around the world, indeed right now Skgorrian soldiers are aiding a coup in Atopiana, our larger neighbour, by the Atopian Union of Fascists.

We advise that you maintain a strong military and keep a large police force. Only through order and strength can the dual evils of Zionism and Bolshevism be fought!

We also believe it is in our best interests to co-operate together, thus Skgorria asks to establish diplomatic relations with you. In addition, we are offering to send advisors to help train your forces. Our Strategic Rocket Forces have recently engaged in a successful nuclear strike that lead to the total annhilation of the enemy, and our SS and Army divisions have proved themselves time after time against our enemies.

Let us join together in a pact of blood and honour

Sieg Heil!

On behalf of Madam Frank, leader of the Atopian Union of Fascists and leader of Atopiana, we respectfully request the construction of an Embassy in the Fascist state of Scotland.

If you agree, we shall provide you with details of our Embassy staff. Of course, we will provide you with an Embassy in our capital, Kurskograd.

Action! Unity!

The Fascist Republic of Voxio would like to set up an embassy in your nation provided that your nation does not follow the bigoted, corrupted forms of Fascism. We will not open relations with racist nations as it runs counter to the Fascist ideal of state unity.