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This vessel, was produced and developed under contract for the nation of Communist Rule. Design features were given to the ARSB to incorporate into a ship and most notable design features of this ship were introduced to the ARSB development team by Communist Rule. This vessel was designed for and to be used by Communist Rule.

THIS VESSEL IS NOT FOR SALE!


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Grad-class Missile Dreadnaught


The Grad-class, at its roots, is an arsenal ship... An arsenal ship of such epic proportions it can not be defined as an arsenal ship. Its capability demands it be classified something else... This ship can only deserve the class of 'Missile Dreadnaught'. With the ability to launch 5000 cruise missiles simultaneously. This single ship has the ability to level a nation from a thousand miles away. That, is why this ship demands power.

She was built with survivability in mind as well. She's not the stealthiest ship in existance (look at her size) but she has numerous features that enhance it including semi-submergiability (lowered RCS), no active radar, no surface structures, and the ability to float dead in the water, no noise emanating from her. One more thing, she's unmanned.


Armament
The Grad-class carries 5000 VLS tubes in 50 one hundred missile SB-VLM-100 VLSS systems.

Also, due to the ship's design, numerous helicopters or VTOL aircraft can land on its deck but it maintains no provisions or maintenance areas for these craft.

Ship Design and Armor
The ship, on the outside, resembles a barge... A large, floating rectangular object.
The Grad-class was designed to support the thousands of VLS tubes, and, therefore, is very, very sturdy. She has double hulls (an outside fiberglass/wood hull and an inner armored hull). On the inner hull, the Grad-class uses a heavy layer of hardened titanium for the outer layer, followed by a layer of honeycombed aluminum followed by another layer of hardened titanium. Beyond that is an extensive layer of ceramics (with kevlar fiber) followed by kevlar-reinforced steel. A layer of super-dense plastic follows that. And the final layer is a 100mm plate of steel for catching any fragments and preventing them from reaching the internal area of the ship. The internal hull's thickness with 490mm of armor.

The outer hull is composed of Oak, Douglas Fir, and Alaskan Cedar. These woods give the ship's outer hull flexibility, strength, and low weight and perform superbly against mines and some torpedoes. Also, the wood in the outer hull gives off little to no magnetic signature. The outer hull is 600mm thick (wood and fiberglass)

The deck of the vessel has about 300mm of armor (composition similar to the internal hull).



Although the Grad-class is unmanned, she still maintains rations and room for up to 100 passengers in the event maintenance is required or some systems fail and require personnel.


Stealth
The ship has the ability to partially submerge herself (not fully underwater but merely feet above the waves) to reduce radar cross signature.
She has no surface structures.
She's nearly silent (she has battery packs and can run silently for some time).
No magnetic signature (wood hull)




Systems
She is protected by the Jericho fleet air defense system.

She only maintains radio/broadband systems (for receiving target and heading data) as well as propulsion and navigation systems.

She does maintain back-up manual steering systems in the event the autonomous systems fail and a crew has to be placed aboard to pilot her.

An advanced automatic freon fire extinguishing system in every VLS 'box', meant to stop fires before they become critical.






Specifications
Power Plant- Eight SB-SDEG-560 Diesel engines. Six EM-690 battery systems (huge battery packs, rows of batteries)

Length- 4297 feet
Beam- 608 feet
Draft- 50 feet
Displacement- 301,450 tons

Speed- 12 knots maximum speed

Crew- None (automation provided by a vessel in the fleet tasked with operating the ship.) Can support 100 personnel.

Armament- 5000 VLS tubes in 50 100 missile 'boxes' that can be removed.





COST- $5,000,000,000 ($5 Billion USD)

The USSCR gladly acknowledges the work of the ARSB in designing and manufacturing these vessels. Payment has been payed in full, and we once again give the ARSB a clap on the shoulder. Excellent work.

This vessel, was produced and developed under contract for the nation of Communist Rule. Design features were given to the ARSB to incorporate into a ship and most notable design features of this ship were introduced to the ARSB development team by Communist Rule. This vessel was designed for and to be used by Communist Rule.

THIS VESSEL IS NOT FOR SALE!


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Grad-class Missile Dreadnaught


The Grad-class, at its roots, is an arsenal ship... An arsenal ship of such epic proportions it can not be defined as an arsenal ship. Its capability demands it be classified something else... This ship can only deserve the class of 'Missile Dreadnaught'. With the ability to launch 5000 cruise missiles simultaneously. This single ship has the ability to level a nation from a thousand miles away. That, is why this ship demands power.

She was built with survivability in mind as well. She's not the stealthiest ship in existance (look at her size) but she has numerous features that enhance it including semi-submergiability (lowered RCS), no active radar, no surface structures, and the ability to float dead in the water, no noise emanating from her. One more thing, she's unmanned.


Armament
The Grad-class carries 5000 VLS tubes in 50 one hundred missile SB-VLM-100 VLSS systems.

Also, due to the ship's design, numerous helicopters or VTOL aircraft can land on its deck but it maintains no provisions or maintenance areas for these craft.

Ship Design and Armor
The ship, on the outside, resembles a barge... A large, floating rectangular object.
The Grad-class was designed to support the thousands of VLS tubes, and, therefore, is very, very sturdy. She has double hulls (an outside fiberglass/wood hull and an inner armored hull). On the inner hull, the Grad-class uses a heavy layer of hardened titanium for the outer layer, followed by a layer of honeycombed aluminum followed by another layer of hardened titanium. Beyond that is an extensive layer of ceramics (with kevlar fiber) followed by kevlar-reinforced steel. A layer of super-dense plastic follows that. And the final layer is a 100mm plate of steel for catching any fragments and preventing them from reaching the internal area of the ship. The internal hull's thickness with 490mm of armor.

The outer hull is composed of Oak, Douglas Fir, and Alaskan Cedar. These woods give the ship's outer hull flexibility, strength, and low weight and perform superbly against mines and some torpedoes. Also, the wood in the outer hull gives off little to no magnetic signature. The outer hull is 600mm thick (wood and fiberglass)

The deck of the vessel has about 300mm of armor (composition similar to the internal hull).



Although the Grad-class is unmanned, she still maintains rations and room for up to 100 passengers in the event maintenance is required or some systems fail and require personnel.


Stealth
The ship has the ability to partially submerge herself (not fully underwater but merely feet above the waves) to reduce radar cross signature.
She has no surface structures.
She's nearly silent (she has battery packs and can run silently for some time).
No magnetic signature (wood hull)




Systems
She is protected by the Jericho fleet air defense system.

She only maintains radio/broadband systems (for receiving target and heading data) as well as propulsion and navigation systems.

She does maintain back-up manual steering systems in the event the autonomous systems fail and a crew has to be placed aboard to pilot her.

An advanced automatic freon fire extinguishing system in every VLS 'box', meant to stop fires before they become critical.






Specifications
Power Plant- Eight SB-SDEG-560 Diesel engines. Six EM-690 battery systems (huge battery packs, rows of batteries)

Length- 4297 feet
Beam- 608 feet
Draft- 50 feet
Displacement- 301,450 tons

Speed- 12 knots maximum speed

Crew- None (automation provided by a vessel in the fleet tasked with operating the ship.) Can support 100 personnel.

Armament- 5000 VLS tubes in 50 100 missile 'boxes' that can be removed.





COST- $5,000,000,000 ($5 Billion USD)

lol

Oh ye of little foresight.

BUMP for amusement on others' responses.

Wow....interesting idea, but...a few things.

Firstly the price is way too low. This is a big ship requiring a lot of resources and it aint gonna happen for just $5 billion. Try fifty and you might be getting nearer. Making it out of wood and automating it to the point it doesn't need a crew are gonna be intense cash drainers.

Secondly. Wood. Armour. On a ship that is in all essence a floating tinderbox. Okay, Ill make this clear right now. No matter how stealthy you make this, its gonna be detected right off the bat. Simply as that. It is simply so big that even the smallest of radar returns will still reveal a huge object in its location. The Doujin has a similar problem, but the Doujin, unlike this, can be and is armoured to the point where it is nigh on invulnerable to most SSMs that will follow a possible contact. This isnt.

So...wood. When the missiles rain down thats gonna stop the missiles plowing into the VLS? Im afraid survivability, the most important part of the ships armour, especially in NS, is not serviced here. Even if you use better armour, then though, a VLS ship is still highly vulnerable a single direct hit on the VLS tubes would see the destruction of the ship and most possibly most of its battlegroup with it. It would be spectacular to look at though.

As for crew automation. Well, I guess it would reduce the casualties when the things do blow up. But in all seriousness an automated ship is a bad idea, particularly one so big, complex (it is, so many engine and missile systems) and important in your battleline. Ships need crews otherwise it will end up breaking down with such regularity that by the time it arrived at the front the war would be over. Plus you need crews to be able to respond to an emergency such as a fire or an attempted boarding action.

To be honest, Ive never been a big fan of the Arsenal ship in general. Good idea for the US in RL, where there is no realistic aggressor with sufficent tech to bring one down, but on NS?. Not quite.

Apart from that, good ship.

OOC- Alright... Here goes...

Yeah, I was kind of iffy on the price (I figured it'd be WAY more)... But it really doesn't matter as I wasn't paid in cash but something far more valuable... Anyways.

Alright, about the wood, that was the clients wishes... Believing that this ship would never be within 600 miles (give or take a few hundred, depending on munitions) of an enemy ship or aircraft, and surrounded (at very long distances, mind you) by a fleet to provide surface, aerial, and anti-submarine defense, there was no actual threat (besides long range anti-shipping missiles or aerial threats, of which armor won't help much)... They needed a cheap substance to create an outer hull. Lumber is an apparantly limitless resource in the USSCR, so, why not? Wood was also chosen by the client for other properties, which I won't get into detail...

The wood is actually only the outer hull... So, worst case scenario is the outer hull, or parts of it, burn away or fall off... Either way, a single anti-shipping missile hit on any arsenal ship will most likely turn it into a sizable fireball.

As for automation... Its actually radio-controlled via any ship in the fleet... It has disposable stores and room for up to 100 passengers in the event a crew is needed. Its entire deck can handle helicopters of most any size so its quite easy to service or at least bring a human crew to. So, in high-threat scenarios where a human crew is required, one can be sent.


In any case, though, the Grad-class was designed so, after an enemies navy and air force is defeated or reduced to near nothing, this ship could move in and take out most any target using a combination of cruise missiles, guided missiles, unguided surface to surface missiles, and whatever else.

because its maximum speed is 12 knots, I'm assuming that its crusing speed is around 8 knots. If you send it out after the destroy their navy and airforce, at that rate the war will be over by the time it gets there. And also, if you only send it out once their navy and airfore are gone, the why not use airplanes to bomb? They are cheaper.

BUMPING for reference.

Also in response to a few comments in here, the Grad-class is a piece in the puzzle of its use.

The USSCR (now the UCTCR) made a sizeable investment in cargo barges of this size, preferring the "One Big Thing" instead of "Bunch of Small Things" ideal that was in the Soviet Union. Pushing the Grad along one of these trade routes would allow them to traverse to a firing point secretly.

When they had to go off the beaten path, the ship would sink in the water, giving it a low radar signature and, because of no need for any crew, allow waves to course over its top without a risk of sinking. This protects it from satellite viewing and of course, radar signature.

The possibility of the ship being boarded, as Freethinkers pointed out, was one reason it was automated. They can vacation on top of the ship for all I care. They can't take control of it or access any system without outside data traffic. There are also several booby traps hidden aboard to ensure the ship remains safe from saboteurs. The main protection is the fact that it would hopefully go unnoticed.

The ship has the ability to partially submerge herself (not fully underwater but merely feet above the waves) to reduce radar cross signature.
She has no surface structures.
She's nearly silent (she has battery packs and can run silently for some time).
No magnetic signature (wood hull)

Okay. how does it submerge itself? Ballast tanks or what?

No surface structures? Where are you going to put sensors and the such?

The ship can't run on battery power for a long time, she has to have some kind of generator to recharge them. Be in nuclear or Combustion.

I dont care if you slap 5 feet of wood on this thing, the inner hull still give off a magnetic signature.

Indeed. Magnetism isnt blocked by non-magnetic substance in the way that electricity is by conductors, and a wooden hull that larger would simply snap.