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Great new Metal for sale

Inkana
13-08-2004, 01:52
About a week ago my country's top researchers and geologists found a glorious new material in our mountains and hills. This metal was christened Vibranium. It is sound-proof and has the strength of titanium.
Price:1ton=10 million
Morathania
13-08-2004, 02:02
OOC: Its too expensive and number two if you want to create a good first post why don't you make a topic like, "Trading Partners Wanted For New Nation" or "New Nation To Open Diplomatic Ties With Other Nations" or "New Nation Seeks to Set Up New Embassies".
MaXiMuZZZ
13-08-2004, 02:02
2 Billion? :eek:
Jangle Jangle Ridge
13-08-2004, 02:05
Try...15 million maybe?
Inkana
13-08-2004, 02:23
-reduced to 10 mil-
Jangle Jangle Ridge
13-08-2004, 02:25
I'll take all you can mine.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 02:29
Excellent. 5 tons already mined have been shipped to Jangle Jungle Ridge. You can expect 5 more in 1RL week
Magnus Valerius
13-08-2004, 02:29
What the heck is this metal used for anyway?

It's probably worthless because, if it's a new element, it is likely to be unstable and radioactive (as all new elements beyond Pu are radioactive).
Jangle Jangle Ridge
13-08-2004, 02:33
I know. I just feel like buying it.
Salbania
13-08-2004, 02:46
Could I get a sample? I would like to make my top scientists do thier own research before I buy any.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 02:49
To awnser you question, Magnus Valerius, Vibranium is mainly used for the building of submarines. Imagine a Sub undectable by sonar.

Salbania, a sample of 10 lbs. is being sent to you as we speak.
Bigbluecow2
13-08-2004, 02:58
can i have a sample to. if i like it i'll buy 20 tons of the stuff ok.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 03:01
Ok, 10 lbs. being sent.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 15:07
bump
Cax
13-08-2004, 16:07
Cax is extremely interested in this new discovery. If it can do what you claim, we would be willing to open discussions regarding the possibility of a permanent trade agreement. Would it be at all possible for Cax to set up its own mining camp and export facilities, in exchange for whatever you choose? Caxan diplomats await your reply.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/caxsig.jpg
The Imperopedantpartoaristacracy of Cax (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=cax)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/commandbar.jpg
Praetonia
13-08-2004, 16:17
About a week ago my country's top researchers and geologists found a glorious new material in our mountains and hills. This metal was christened Vibranium. It is sound-proof and has the strength of titanium.
Price:1ton=10 million
If it's as strong as titanium why not just use titanium? Much cheaper.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 16:41
Because Vibranium is Sound Proof, Titanium isnt. Cax I will let you on Inkanan soil to mine only if you can manege to get Inkana a few hundred Mirage Fighters, and that Cax and Inkana start trade agreements.
Praetonia
13-08-2004, 16:43
Titanium is pretty sound proof, I mean this metal cant be completely sound proof as that would go completely against kinetic theory. Whatever.
Cax
13-08-2004, 17:46
Cax I will let you on Inkanan soil to mine only if you can manege to get Inkana a few hundred Mirage Fighters, and that Cax and Inkana start trade agreements.
OK. My quick calculations, pulled from Google:
Mirage 2000-5: $45 million
300 x $45 million = $13.5 billion
I also see from a thread I made some time ago, that Cax sets aside $4billion a year for 'Other Imports'. Therefore, I will cut you a deal:
300 Mirage fighters will be bought and shipped to you over the next 4 NS years (4 RL days), and money/goods paid NS annually to you, if you agree to sign a contract which allows me to set up a mine in your nation, from which I can extract a certain amount of Vibranium per NS year. Shall we say 20 million tons per year? Bear in mind Cax is a VERY large nation, and will require a lot. Also, Cax's non-military ships, etc., to have free passage to and from your nation to allow the metal to be brought back to Cax as efficiently as possible.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/caxsig.jpg
The Imperopedantpartoaristacracy of Cax (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=cax)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/commandbar.jpg
Inkana
13-08-2004, 17:50
The Sultan agrees to sign contract. Let this usher in a era of Inkana and Cax Friendship.
Zoogiedom
13-08-2004, 17:52
OMFGZ 1 just disc0verd a |\/|3tal tat i5 |_|b3r-l337!!!!!!11111one

Sorry. Won't work. You can't just claim discovering uber metals as far as I'm aware, that don't exist. I will not recognize Vibranium in any context...sorry if I sounded a bit harsh, but this isn't going to be generally accepted.
Vi2o
13-08-2004, 17:59
OMFGZ 1 just disc0verd a |\/|3tal tat i5 |_|b3r-l337!!!!!!11111one

Sorry. Won't work. You can't just claim discovering uber metals as far as I'm aware, that don't exist. I will not recognize Vibranium in any context...Amen.
Jonothana
13-08-2004, 18:01
The Jonothanian government scientific branch has come to the conclusion that this metal cannot exist as an element, unless it is readioactive. It may be titanium painted a funny colour.

What is it made of? Is it an alloy or a compound? The Jonothanian governemt strangly advises against ppurchase untill these questions are answered. This is because there is a high possiblity this metal is radioactive.
Cax
13-08-2004, 18:05
The Sultan agrees to sign contract. Let this usher in a era of Inkana and Cax Friendship.
We too are extremely pleased with this agreement, and will honour it faithfully. Thankyou.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/caxsig.jpg
The Imperopedantpartoaristacracy of Cax (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=cax)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/commandbar.jpg
Lusitanean Heroes
13-08-2004, 18:05
We, the Lusitanean Heroes leadered by our Divine Emperor *bleep*, have taken an interest in your discovery. As such, we'd like to offer you a proposal. Since you claim that your metal is proper for submarine construction (and we take great pride in our navy), we would like to discuss a possible trade agreement if you'd send us a sample sub.

I give you a blueprint of an outdated submarine model of ours. If it operates better than the standart, we have a deal... or at least might have.
Scandavian States
13-08-2004, 18:10
[I can believe developing a Titanium-based alloy that accomplishes this, but a new element? Bullshit. Besides the fact that elements past 100 (and this would have to be one of them) are extremely radioactive, none of them last for more than a few minutes. Furthermore, these would have to be manufactured, which would put in the same class as Tritium in that it's worth ten times more than gold.]
Cax
13-08-2004, 18:16
[I can believe developing a Titanium-based alloy that accomplishes this, but a new element? Bullshit. Besides the fact that elements past 100 (and this would have to be one of them) are extremely radioactive, none of them last for more than a few minutes. Furthermore, these would have to be manufactured, which would put in the same class as Tritium in that it's worth ten times more than gold.]
OOC: Come on people. This is NS, not the real world! You'll cheerfully accept Mechs and physical impossibilities like the Terracoste, but gripe on and on about a new metal? Put it in perspective.
Inkana
13-08-2004, 18:16
[I can believe developing a Titanium-based alloy that accomplishes this, but a new element? Bullshit. Besides the fact that elements past 100 (and this would have to be one of them) are extremely radioactive, none of them last for more than a few minutes. Furthermore, these would have to be manufactured, which would put in the same class as Tritium in that it's worth ten times more than gold.]
The Jonothanian government scientific branch has come to the conclusion that this metal cannot exist as an element, unless it is readioactive. It may be titanium painted a funny colour.

What is it made of? Is it an alloy or a compound? The Jonothanian governemt strangly advises against ppurchase untill these questions are answered. This is because there is a high possiblity this metal is radioactive.
.....A simple no whould have been good...

We, the Lusitanean Heroes leadered by our Divine Emperor *bleep*, have taken an interest in your discovery. As such, we'd like to offer you a proposal. Since you claim that your metal is proper for submarine construction (and we take great pride in our navy), we would like to discuss a possible trade agreement if you'd send us a sample sub.

As you requested a sample Mini-sub is being built.
Scandavian States
13-08-2004, 18:19
OOC: Come on people. This is NS, not the real world! You'll cheerfully accept Mechs and physical impossibilities like the Terracoste, but gripe on and on about a new metal? Put it in perspective.

[Actually, I won't accept mechs in any modern and near-future enviroment. And since I don't know what the Terracoste is, I'm afraid I don't know what's physically impossible about it.]
Cax
13-08-2004, 18:32
And since I don't know what the Terracoste is, I'm afraid I don't know what's physically impossible about it.]
It's a kind of flying battleship/flying very large tank. I think.
Praetonia
13-08-2004, 18:35
[Actually, I won't accept mechs in any modern and near-future enviroment. And since I don't know what the Terracoste is, I'm afraid I don't know what's physically impossible about it.]
The terracoste is a godmodded piece of junk.

I'd say you can have mechs so long as you put lots of money and time into it and RP them being in every way inferior to tanks like they are.
Cax
13-08-2004, 18:40
Here you go, the Terracoste thread:click me. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343893)
Now, back to Vibranium, anyone?
Magnus Valerius
13-08-2004, 21:42
Vibranium is foolish, that is all.

Besides, if it had the strength of Titanium, that means it's pretty weak! Do you mean Titanium Steel alloys? Even if it did, it was mentioned that Titanium alloys are much cheaper.

I'm outta here...
Jonothana
13-08-2004, 23:35
Well, what is it? Have you created some NS periodic table? This is for future tech, if anything. And we do not RP with the Terracoste, as it is a godmod.

Godmod = Future Tech

Cax + Imagination = Vibranium

Vibranium = Godmod
Inkana
14-08-2004, 01:05
I thought that the pourpose of NS is to create our own imaginary world. Vibranium is imaginary. Bust who cares? It can make your subs better, and your Top Secret bases virtully untappable. Now in some cases (a flying battleship?) you have to draw a line, but I think that Vibranium is acceptable. Anyways, that's my two cents...
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 01:10
Why not just make up a new alloy which probably wouldn't be commercially viable, but people don't notice that. Why not just make Vibranium an alloy of say, Titanium, Steel, Vanadium and Tantalum. These are all strong metals and a proper combination would be great. However don't use these, I have just invented a good alloy. :D
Inkana
14-08-2004, 02:48
lol, have fun :D
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 02:54
OMFGZ 1 just disc0verd a |\/|3tal tat i5 |_|b3r-l337!!!!!!11111one

Sorry. Won't work. You can't just claim discovering uber metals as far as I'm aware, that don't exist. I will not recognize Vibranium in any context...sorry if I sounded a bit harsh, but this isn't going to be generally accepted.

Likely why I'm buying it. I'll just metal it down to what it is, plastic, sliver paint, a piece aluminum foil, and some cotton. Then I'll call it a scandal, break down and cry, then ask for charity.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 02:56
I thought that the pourpose of NS is to create our own imaginary world. Vibranium is imaginary. Bust who cares? It can make your subs better, and your Top Secret bases virtully untappable. Now in some cases (a flying battleship?) you have to draw a line, but I think that Vibranium is acceptable. Anyways, that's my two cents...

Well, it is supposed to be partially imaginary, but not to be impossible. If you want a completely imaginary world, go to the dark alley and shoot yourself up with something nasty, like orange juice.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 02:58
OOC: Come on people. This is NS, not the real world! You'll cheerfully accept Mechs and physical impossibilities like the Terracoste, but gripe on and on about a new metal? Put it in perspective.

Damnit! Why did you do that? My stuff is all future and space tech, don't drag my weaponry into this. MOST people called it a godmod. Ugh. I really really hate you. Thanks for screwing up all my nice pretty sales... Wait...
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 03:03
Well, what is it? Have you created some NS periodic table? This is for future tech, if anything. And we do not RP with the Terracoste, as it is a godmod.

Godmod = Future Tech

Cax + Imagination = Vibranium

Vibranium = Godmod

Ack. Not godmod. Lots of jet engines+mass=flying thing. It works out. Just not that the version of it. I don't use any magnets anymore. Nor are half of those weapons even close to modern tech. I don't know why he pulled my storefront into this, but it certainly accounts for my drop in sales, down to nil. If you can just ignore it any time he blatantly says, "But this guy, who is space tech and has 3 billion+ citizens sells cool stuff!" and uses it as a cover. Getting slandered because someone else can't RP just gets me mad.
Inkana
14-08-2004, 03:06
dude quadruple posting is spam
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 03:09
Well, I have four seperate ideas. And I really hate you now. It's only spam if there's no point to it all. I saw the things about you randomly pointing to my Terracostes after the first post. Ok? And if you ever do that again, I consider that fair game to declare war on you. And since you pointed to my stuff. I'll point to yours and yell, "SPACE TECH" and use all of my nice, Space-tech weapons to beat you to small pieces.
Inkana
14-08-2004, 16:00
No, spam is taking up space with meaningless things that could have been put in one, long thoughtful post. If you had dont this then we wouldn't be at eachother's throats. And if you do declare war on my small country it will be a cowardly attack and you your name will be dragged even lower than it was!
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 16:04
Hmm JJR, this is really not good for your supergun rights...
EJoo
14-08-2004, 16:10
About a week ago my country's top researchers and geologists found a glorious new material in our mountains and hills. This metal was christened Vibranium. It is sound-proof and has the strength of titanium.
Price:1ton=10 million
20 million ;)
Inkana
14-08-2004, 16:12
You'd buy for 20 mil?
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 16:13
Don't Do It! Its A Scam.
EJoo
14-08-2004, 16:23
You'd buy for 20 mil?
I won´t Do it
EJoo
14-08-2004, 16:32
Cax is extremely interested in this new discovery. If it can do what you claim, we would be willing to open discussions regarding the possibility of a permanent trade agreement. Would it be at all possible for Cax to set up its own mining camp and export facilities, in exchange for whatever you choose? Caxan diplomats await your reply.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/caxsig.jpg
The Imperopedantpartoaristacracy of Cax (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=cax)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/commandbar.jpg
I wanna Buy 1 ton metal and i buy 1 million for that!!!
EJoo
14-08-2004, 16:38
You'd buy for 20 mil?
I Buy Metal 1 ton and i Paint 10 Million to it =)
EJoo
14-08-2004, 16:40
20 million ;)
20 Million ;)
Inkana
14-08-2004, 16:43
wdf? You're just posting meaningless posts to confuse me and everybody else.
Japanese Antarctica
14-08-2004, 16:53
To awnser you question, Magnus Valerius, Vibranium is mainly used for the building of submarines. Imagine a Sub undectable by sonar.

No, you didn't answer his question. You claimed to have found a new element. Most new elements are created in super colliders and last for a fraction of a second. Even if you found it in the ground, all elements 84 and up are radioactive. This metal isn't practical for building for several reasons. It's radioactive. Alpha, beta and gamma rays would hit the sailors inside. It would naturally decay so Vibranium will probably turn into lead. Your submarine would sink. Also, it's radioactive so during the shipping process, some of the vibranium will have decayed. The buyer would be cheated. After 1 half life, 1/2 of the vibranium would decay into another element. So they'd be buying more lead than vibranium.

Sorry for bursting your bubble.
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 17:07
We've already burst his bubble but he ignores us.
Cax
14-08-2004, 17:19
You claimed to have found a new element. Most new elements are created in super colliders...
Actually, he never claimed it to be a new element. It could be a new compund/alloy naturally formed(unlikely but possible).
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 17:22
But he has said its imaginary, so its for future or fantasy tech (most likley fantasy)
Japanese Antarctica
14-08-2004, 17:38
But he has said its imaginary, so its for future or fantasy tech (most likley fantasy)


Well in any case, i'm ignoring this find and i advise everyone else to do the same.
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 18:31
Well in any case, i'm ignoring this find and i advise everyone else to do the same.

Are you deliberatly repeating everybody?

(I concur)
Cianoi
14-08-2004, 19:40
To awnser you question, Magnus Valerius, Vibranium is mainly used for the building of submarines. Imagine a Sub undectable by sonar.


ooc: not to be the voice of reason or anything as far as physics is concerned, but sonar is based on rebounding waves, no?

therefore, your soundproof sub would likely be ESPECIALLY detectable by sonar.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
14-08-2004, 19:49
Hmm JJR, this is really not good for your supergun rights...
WTH? Look, would you put up with people walking into your storefront and saying, "Look, that's big, I get made up superweapons too!" And then everyone called what you had in your storefront a Godmodded piece of junk?
Jonothana
14-08-2004, 20:07
Yea, just don't declare war. Thats all I ask. And this is getting into a bit a a flame war.