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The Supergun

History

The supergun, as many know, was a prototype made by Iraq and a few other nations but stopped when the pioneering scientist was assassinated.

The Basics

Jonothana has taken the idea, produced 3 and have calculated the accuracy at about 10m by 10m. The power is altered (using a specially designed computer) using different types of explosives in measures of decigrams (10th of a gram). The angle is changed by complex hydraulics, and the whole gun is moved around on tracks using a fixed base. One revolution can be completed in just under 10 minutes.

Tests

After these guns had been made, tests were devised. They would use the continent of Japolbadia to fire upon, as all forms of military testing (including nuclear) had been authorised by its owner, Japolbad. These proved to be very successful, and later tests discovered that the shell fired could orbit twice round the earth and hit part of Jonothana (uninhabited desert). Tests also showed its ability to hit satellites - 4 defunct satellites were destroyed.

How It Works

The supergun works by propelling a shell into the upper atmosphere, calculating the gravity, resistance etc. meaning this has the ability to fire upon any nation, should it be required.

The Shell

The shell can be filled with almost anything, as is has a diameter of 21 cm and has a length of 1 metre. Overweight shells can however reduce range.

Specs (no weights are given)

Length of one section - 3m
Thickness of shielding - 6cm
Length of Rim - 6cm
Material - Titanium first layer, lead shielding available for firing of nuclear devices
Projected fire rate: 3 Shells per minute

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/other/02_supergun.jpg

This picture is of the Iraqi Fixed version, we use complex hydraulics to alter angle.

This project has been fully completed, and we are now manufacturing more. These are available for sale. All sales are subject to the Disclaimer (see bottom).

1st section: $500,000
2nd section: $1 Million
3rd section: $ 2 Million
4 $ 3.5 Million
5 $ 6 Million
6 $ 9 Million
7 $ 11 Million

This brings the length to 21m, the length used. More sections can be made to measure but at high prices. 33 million is the total for the whole gun, 32 if bought in one. Price reduced to 30 million for allies.

Shells: Empty Shells: 1000 for $1 00 000
With High Explosives 1000 for $3 00 000

Extra Shielding (3 cm): 1st layer – Titanium: $300 000 Lead $100 000
Increase of $50 000 up to 6th layer

7th layer and above has to be custom made and therefore increase is
$150 000

A discount of 5% is available for allies or contracted companies in accessories.

The Software required for the calulation of the flightpath comes free with any purchase above $1 Million. For anything below this it costs $5000.

Plans and Production rights available for $1 Trillion.

Fluorine Shells

A shell/bomb is filled with fluorine. Exlosives may be added. Fluorine is very corrosive, and can make many liquids, even water, burn with a blue flame. This corrosiveness is overcome by lining shells with steel.

These will be for sale at the following prices:

No Explosives

20 Litre : $ 500 000 for 500 $ 900 000 for 1000
30 Litre : $ 750 000 for 500 $ 1.4 Million for 1000

With Explosives:

20 Litre : $ 1 Million for 500 $ 1.9 Million for 1000
30 Litre : $ 1.5 Million for 500 $ 2.9 Million for 1000


Funds raised from sales of the Supergun and Other projects:

$1 010 215 320 000


Disclaimer: Background tests will be run on purchasing nations, to ensure that these weapons are only used for self defence and are not going to be used unjustly. We reserve the right to refuse sale for any reason. Although use is free, Jonothana reserves the right to reclaim products for at least half price refund if not used properly and will target products and buyer nations if they fail to surrender the products. Fluorine is only to be used where it cannot cause severe death and cannot be used deliberatley to cause pain and not death. Jonothana however accepts that pain and small cevillian casualties are fairly innvitable, however every effort must be made to minimise this risk. The Supergun must be used responibly and must not target any civilian building except parliament if needed. The accuracy is advisory only. Any nation found building Superguns without permission will be fined $1.5 Trillion or production facilities wil be targeted. Jonothana does not accept responsiblity for the useage of these weapons, however we endevour to stop the misuse of these weapons.

(Damn it! Too much proliferation of this technology, of late, it's making Hotan's Black Dragon ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6584944&postcount=5 http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6590152&postcount=7 ) seem less interesting! People are going to figure-out what the Dragon's Talons are for! [wrings hands])

Guidance software now added.

Fluorine bomb now added.

Disclaimer has been added. All purchases now apply to this.

I would like 100,000 of these weapons, I will shield them. I believe the total comes to 3,300,000,000,000 USD. I don't need shells or armor.

Actually, if you would give us production rights, we would pay you liberally for them...

OOC: I've got my own for my nation but its good to see the concept being used elsewhere, it can also be used for a light satilite launcher.

Ok, cancel my order, and just give me production rights.

I think the price might be a bit too low.

21 million USD is less than what it costs to buy a newer-model MiG-29.

Preparations are being made for the supergun to be sent over in B - 52's and oil tankers and JJR to be granted the production rights and plans. These are will be e - mailed to you. If you have read the disclaimer you know there will be a backgorund check run on you. This will take no longer than 5 rl days, more likely one. Please wait while these are carried out.

Hmm. A whole day? Ugh. You can trust me, I'm your friend. LRR can vouch for me. (Vouch, damnit!)

OOC:I already have quite a number of these lurking around my nation, when no one was looking.

The Government of Foolish Pesants would like to commend the nation of Jonothana for such enterprising work in the name of space exploration. Such devices were pioneered under the strictest of security within our own nation, eliminating the need for expensive rocket launches for satillites. We are, however, concerned about your intensions of posing this device as a weapon. This would not be the best idea as such firings would lead to the need to replace whole barrel making its use for an artillery piece limited. This in conjunction with the structural weakness of such a shape make it extremely vunerable to any form of attack from the ground or air. As you can see, the cost to effectiveness of such a weapons system is not even close to mediocre in the age of supersonic bombings. In the name of goodwill, we urge you not to sell defunkt systems to other nations. Such actions will undoubtebly end poorly for all involved.

We hope you will take our gesture in the spirit it is given.

Reilock Coratha
High Commander of Foolish Pesants

Hmm. A whole day? Ugh. You can trust me, I'm your friend. LRR can vouch for me. (Vouch, damnit!)

What?

*Turns around in surprise, turns out that I was reading the paper all the while*

For that, I must smack you with a wireless mouse.

OOC: I've got my own for my nation but its good to see the concept being used elsewhere, it can also be used for a light satilite launcher.

OOC: Indeed, that's how Dra-pol's first satellite, RedZero, was launched, just weeks ago. Hurrah for 28kilotonne seismic events!

The shell is strengthened. Also, extra layers can be bought. However, barrel breakages are fairly innevitable. They would have to be re-bought. However simple 'patching up' of cracks can signifcantly increase the life. However we are not responsible for any failures if such repairs are used. And as of the 20th August there may be a 50% duty to make the supergun more expensive. All current purachers WILL NOT have this duty enforced, even if the shipping is after the 20th. Backgorund checks are now beggining.

Ok, random background check completed. You showed no aggression in the checked posts.

PASS

Plans E - Mailed.

Terra congratulates Jonothana on being one of the few nations to actually show interest in the 'Paris Gun' project. We urge you to speak with Scandavian States regarding upgrades, as SS operates 50" Cannons and is quite informed regarding ballistics.

You realise thatthese things have to be strapped to a hill and cant aim?

You realise thatthese things have to be strapped to a hill and cant aim?

Guess who didn't read the post...

This is BASED on the Iraqi gun. We use complex hydralics and it moves around on wheels. It has about 10m x 10m accuracy.

We wonder how the weapon could fire at a target at, oh I don't know, the opposite side of the world?

Well, it basically fires it at low altitude orbit. Orbits for satilites are in space so they don't crash. The objective for this, however is to make them crash. I will post a diagram as soon as I have made it.

OOC: With enought fore-thought, the Supergun could hit anywhere, even if stationary. Its just a matter of doing all the sums, that and having a big enough gun not to come apart under all the explosive charges used to make the shell go foward.

That is what our supergun is all about. And this is how it fires half way round the world.

We are also considering a mobile version with three or four csections, capable of firing 10 shell minium. Its range would maybe be about 5 km, input please.

We are interested in one complete gun and 30 empty shells.

That will bem ( after background check)

One Supergun : $ 32 000 000

30 shells (empty) : $ 300 000

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Subtotal 1 : $ 32 300 000

Added Costs

Duty : $ 16 150 000

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Subtotal 2 : $ 48 450 000

Discounts

Duty EXEMPT : - $ 16 150 000
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TOTAL : 32 300 000

We are purchasing:
One Supergun
30 shells (empty).

*32300000$ wired on confirmation*

Backgorund check : You showed no overall aggression

PASS

Order confimed. The prducts are being flown over in B - 52's.

Thanks, it was a pleasure doing business with you.

Funds raised from sales of the Supergun and Other projects:

$ 1 000 032 300 000

Greetings.

The Republic of Sharina is looking for defensive weapons that has long range capacity. We are looking for weapons that can be launched from our mainland, and have the capacity to destroy invading enemy navies.

We are a peaceful nation, but we need powerful defenses to deter invasion or foreign aggression.

We are quite interested in your Super Gun concept, but our republic cannot afford $1 trillion for production rights. We need to be able to produce our own long range defenses.

Sharina will have to develop Heavy Artillery, or some form of Extra-Long Range Artillery, then have the freedom to produce as many as we want so we shall have enough to deter any invasion.


President Rand Veristek.

We have some old 800mm coastal guns.
These three enormous guns were largely inspired by Germany's Gustav and were build during late 40s.
They are very big and amazing, but downside is that their inceribly inpractical. Their purpose was to stop enemy battleships with one shot, but the war never came here so they didn't see any action. The guns themselves would be impossible to move, but we still have the plans.

We thank you for your consideration, but the Supergun is not designed for moving targets, however it might just be able to hit a slow moving ship if you anticipated its movement. You may consider buying some anyway, as a special offer I have personally authorised a 25% discount and exemption from duty, due to the fact we can be absoulutley sure you will only use these for defence.

Sir Jon Davis - Clarke OJC, Kings Prime Minister

Greetings from the Republic of Sharina.

After considerable discussion among our miliary and scientists, we have decided that we would like the blueprints for the Gustav type heavy artillery from the nation of Torsg.

In addition, we are interested in purchasing five superguns from our friend Jonothana. If we are satisfied with the Superguns, would it be possible if we were allowed to build several more ourselves in the future?

Would the price be 150 million for all five Superguns, correct?

Your offers are much appreciated and we shall repay both of your nations kindness someday, somehow.


Live well,
President Rand Veristek

As your nation has been incredibly peace loving we will not run a background check.

What makes you think it will be 150 Million? It is 120 Million for you, with 25% discount. Would you also like to purchase some shells? We will give you one batch of either free of charge.

Greetings friend Jonothana,

We would like a case of explosive shells to stash for emergency, or in case of invasion.

We would like to look into purchasing the blueprints or designs of the shells for the SuperGun. This is so that we can produce some shells if we are blockaded by invaders. We would be able to drive off the blockading ships with our own shells from our SuperGuns, opening up trade once again.

Also would you be willing to permit us to produce several additional SuperGuns in the future? If not, we understand completely.

We shall wire the $120 million for the five SuperGuns, in addition to any extra costs for the shells or empty shell blueprints if you choose to grant us the opporunity to produce our own SuperGun shells.

Go in peace and live well friend,

President Rand Veristek

Chellis is interested in acquiring 300 of these guns and 200,000 of the 30 liter explosive shells, for 9.9b and 580m if our calculations are correct.

Interesting; a few inacuracies, but otherwise pretty good.

Of course, I have had two such instalations for over a year now; they're underground electromagnetic mass launchers instead of explosive driven, but it's the same general idea.

BTW, the Canadian ballistics scientist was Gerald Bull, and the Iraqi supergun was never completed(1000mm), tho I they finished a smaller version(350mm).


Some breif info.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/supergun.htm

Ok. You are aware that the 30 litre shells contain Fluorine, and are not designed for the supergun, but it can fire them approximatly 3/4 of an orbit, which is more than you really need.

That will be:

300 Superguns (full) 9.6 Billion USD

200 000 Fluorine 30 - litre Shells 580 Million USD
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TOTAL : 10180000000 USD

Background check pending...

PASS

President Rand Veristek, as you are our friend we are willing to give you the plans of old coastal guns.

OOC:

I'd like to know your replies to my proposals in my previous post by tonight.

Here's my proposals:

We would like a case of explosive shells to stash for emergency, or in case of invasion.

We would like to look into purchasing the blueprints or designs of the shells for the SuperGun.

Also would you be willing to permit us to produce several additional SuperGuns in the future? If not, we understand completely.


I apologize if I'm kind of impatient. I'm planning on setting up a "fact-book" for my nation, and hopefully build a webpage for it, hence my "nudging"

Sorry about that. I'm trying to keep track of everything my nation has, both military and diplomatically.

Greetings friend Jonothana,

We would like a case of explosive shells to stash for emergency, or in case of invasion.

We would like to look into purchasing the blueprints or designs of the shells for the SuperGun. This is so that we can produce some shells if we are blockaded by invaders. We would be able to drive off the blockading ships with our own shells from our SuperGuns, opening up trade once again.

Also would you be willing to permit us to produce several additional SuperGuns in the future? If not, we understand completely.

We shall wire the $120 million for the five SuperGuns, in addition to any extra costs for the shells or empty shell blueprints if you choose to grant us the opporunity to produce our own SuperGun shells.

Go in peace and live well friend,

President Rand Veristek

I applogise I did not notice this post.

As you are a very good and trusted freind, you can have 500 shells free, and another 1000 at the reduced price of $ 200 000.

You may also produce shells (plans will be emailed) for $ 3 Million

You may produce 5 Superguns for free. Then you must destroy all paper and any computers they were held on.

Also would you telegram us with the website and/or thread your Factbook is on.

Thank you,

Albert Sulivan, Head of Production and Sales

(Heh, damn you. I continue to resent this thread for stealing our Dragon's thunder. Maybe I wasn't paying attention and should just re-read, but how thick are the walls of this gun? See, ours are 30cm, in order to prevent the force of a significant nuclear blast ripping them apart. The idea of firing one of these guns after patching up a crack seems... incredible. I wouldn't want to be within a few miles of it. Dra-pol's Black Dragon can be detected anywhere on earth, when it fires. Anyway, carry on, don't mind me, I just this minute got in from the pub :) )

Greetings, friend Jonothana.

We shall wire you an additionqal $3 million for the shell blueprints.

In addition, we would like to acquire the free case of 500 explosive shells, then purchase 1000 additional ones for $200,000.

We are willing to agree to your terms regarding our own construction of the SuperGuns. We would like to ask if we would be allowed to conduct research into improving the SuperGuns for coastal defense? If we are permitted, we shall only use the blueprints for research purposes, and not for additional production without your consent?

Any research breakthroughs regarding coastal or pure defense SuperGuns would be shared with your nation. I am sure that flexible and accurate coastal SuperGuns would benefit our nations immensely.

Would this be acceptable?


We eagerly await your reply, friend.

President Rand Veristek


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OOC:

I'm in the process of making a site for my nation. I'm not sure when it'll be finished, if it'll take a month or so. I need to RP a little more, to get some more ideas down and stuff in the meanwhile.

But I promise you, once I finish my "homepage" for my nation, I'd be more than happy to TG you the site, or post it here on the boards.

Yes. That would be great. This thread isn't just about sales, it's about improvement.