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Hatarian Mammalia Declares a Blockcade against IDF!

Hatarian Mammalia
09-08-2004, 20:19
Do to the Theat of IDF Involemet in The Hatarian Civil War. We of Hatarian Mammalia has Declared a Blockcade against The Nation of IDF.

We are sending

120 Freedom Fist Class Destroyers (The small kind)
23Liberay Class Battleships
34RebelionClass Subs
12Nimz Class Air craft Carriers

To: The Leaders of The IDF

We are not planning to Invade your nation, this Blockcade is to make sure that your armies STAY in your nation!
Communist Mississippi
09-08-2004, 20:23
For your size, that fleet is a godmod, also your spelling is atrocious. Another thing, IDF has a good navy patrolling his waters.

I support his right to ignore you for blatant godmodding.
The Island of Rose
09-08-2004, 20:26
For your size, that fleet is a godmod, also your spelling is atrocious. Another thing, IDF has a good navy patrolling his waters.

I support his right to ignore you for blatant godmodding.

Maybe that's his language :p
Grenval
09-08-2004, 20:38
If, however, IDF does not ignore you, I will destroy your blockade and then impose my own upon you. All with IDF's approval of course.
Jennivier
09-08-2004, 21:21
While Jennivier strives for neutrality in affairs not of it's own, Jennivier will not allow the senseless destruction of manned ships. Hatarian Mammalia's property should not be fired upon unless they themselves initiate. In that case, Jennivier would fully support IDF and your nation. However, we will not allow their destruction otherwise. Use of force should be a last line of defense, providing HM does not enter IDF waters. Jennivier stands gaurd and shall take the side of defender if deemed necessary.
Hatarian Mammalia
09-08-2004, 21:23
For your size, that fleet is a godmod, also your spelling is atrocious. Another thing, IDF has a good navy patrolling his waters.

I support his right to ignore you for blatant godmodding.
[ http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hatarian_mammalia
I an't no 'small fry' like you think
Turkmeny
09-08-2004, 21:26
Actually, you are small. Less then 300 million, and you have an active fleet larger then the entire active USN.

I, on the other hand, with 1.5+ billion and a Frightening economy, CAN support such a fleet. So in other words: bugger off or I will barrage you with my state-of-the-art ignore shells.
Grenval
09-08-2004, 21:26
Grenval is prepared to do as IDF wishes. A blockade can be crippling to an nation's economy and the negatiations could take months, while leaving the blockade in place, also crippling the economy. Grenval sees war as a necessity in this situation, although Grenval will not attack without IDF approaval.

[OOC - It would be impossible to blockade an entire nation without ever bringing ships into the waters of that nation. There would simply be too much area.]
Whittier-
09-08-2004, 21:31
Do to the Theat of IDF Involemet in The Hatarian Civil War. We of Hatarian Mammalia has Declared a Blockcade against The Nation of IDF.

We are sending

120 Freedom Fist Class Destroyers (The small kind)
23Liberay Class Battleships
34RebelionClass Subs
12Nimz Class Air craft Carriers

To: The Leaders of The IDF

We are not planning to Invade your nation, this Blockcade is to make sure that your armies STAY in your nation!
IDF is free to move his forces into international airspace and international waters. Nothing gives you the right to dictate the policies of other soverign states.
Whittier will defend IDF from invasion.
Further more, your blockade is illegal and unjustified, the 1st and 3rd Whittier fleets are setting sail to put an end to this act of war once and for all. If Hataria does not wish to be invaded, we propose that they call their ships back immediately.
Hatarian Mammalia
09-08-2004, 21:34
Grenval is prepared to do as IDF wishes. A blockade can be crippling to an nation's economy and the negatiations could take months, while leaving the blockade in place, also crippling the economy. Grenval sees war as a necessity in this situation, although Grenval will not attack without IDF approaval.

[OOC - It would be impossible to blockade an entire nation without ever bringing ships into the waters of that nation. There would simply be too much area.]

I am still building a Navy, it is already up to 50%

and if war is declared against me, you will have to fight not only me, but Canan and Hataria.

and I am NOT, repeat, NOT! invadeing the IDF!
Hatarian Mammalia
09-08-2004, 21:35
IDF is free to move his forces into international airspace and international waters. Nothing gives you the right to dictate the policies of other soverign states.
Whittier will defend IDF from invasion.
Further more, your blockade is illegal and unjustified, the 1st and 3rd Whittier fleets are setting sail to put an end to this act of war once and for all. If Hataria does not wish to be invaded, we propose that they call their ships back immediately.

I am ALLIES with Hataria and Canan.
Grenval
09-08-2004, 21:36
Grenval, while it cannot send any naval armaments at this time, is gearing up to invade Hatarian Mammalia. The following are being readied:

6th Heavy Calvary Division
1st, 2nd, and 3rd F-22 Raptor Squadrons
1st, 2nd, and 3rd AV-8B Harrier IIs Squadrons

Each Heavy Calvary Division contains: 1,000 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank; 50 M109A6 Paladin Howitzers; 50 M993 MLRS; 10 Patriot Missile Batteries

Each Squadron contains 40 warplanes.
Grenval
09-08-2004, 21:38
[OOC - It is generally not looked well upon to RP your puppet nations helping each other. Example: Hataria and Hatarian Mammalia.]
Whittier-
09-08-2004, 21:41
I am ALLIES with Hataria and Canan.
I doubt Canan will go to war with me over this.
And I can squash Hataria like a bug.
The Parthians
09-08-2004, 21:41
Parthia will assist our allies in IDF. If need be we can unleash hell upon Hattaria Mammalia.
Jennivier
09-08-2004, 21:42
The invasion of HM cannot be allowed. Jennivier hereby urges HM to reconsider it's blockade of IDF. Your reasons are unjust and you obviously do not carry the power for such a move. You not only put IDF in risk, but the amount of money for such a task could have terrible consequences on your economy and political stability.

At the same time, Jennivier will stand gaurd of HM should nation's persue the ruthless invasion of said nation. You have no right or just reason to do so. Jennivier will come back with a swift lead fist and set one's nation back in it's ranks. We are prepared for such a move. Our allies, Lansings and Acasia are also stead to help us if deemed necessary.

HM, this is a warning to you as well. Remove your ships at once. Upon entering IDF waters, you are at their disposal, and Jennivier shall do nothing to defend you under those circumstances, as we mean no harm to a neutral nation.
Whittier-
09-08-2004, 21:43
I am still building a Navy, it is already up to 50%

and if war is declared against me, you will have to fight not only me, but Canan and Hataria.

and I am NOT, repeat, NOT! invadeing the IDF!
No you are not invading him, but your blockade has no justification and as such is illegal. Further, it consitutes a declaration of war against IDF.
Whittier-
09-08-2004, 21:44
The invasion of HM cannot be allowed. Jennivier hereby urges HM to reconsider it's blockade of IDF. Your reasons are unjust and you obviously do not carry the power for such a move. You not only put IDF in risk, but the amount of money for such a task could have terrible consequences on your economy and political stability.

At the same time, Jennivier will stand gaurd of HM should nation's persue the ruthless invasion of said nation. You have no right or just reason to do so. Jennivier will come back with a swift lead fist and set one's nation back in it's ranks. We are prepared for such a move. Our allies, Lansings and Acasia are also stead to help us if deemed necessary.

HM, this is a warning to you as well. Remove your ships at once. Upon entering IDF waters, you are at their disposal, and Jennivier shall do nothing to defend you under those circumstances, as we mean no harm to a neutral nation.

All ships must be allowed free access into and out of IDF waters as well.
Grenval
09-08-2004, 21:49
As long as all ships stay within international borders and do not disrupt shipping routes, Grenval will simply redeploy the troops to Ottoman Turkistan.
Whittier-
10-08-2004, 02:47
As long as all ships stay within international borders and do not disrupt shipping routes, Grenval will simply redeploy the troops to Ottoman Turkistan.
Whittier backs this proposal.
Canan
10-08-2004, 02:58
I am still building a Navy, it is already up to 50%

and if war is declared against me, you will have to fight not only me, but Canan and Hataria.

and I am NOT, repeat, NOT! invadeing the IDF!

Occ: Hey stupid. Don't speak on others behalf.

IC: Canan will not help you, I will only assist Hataria, who is a protectorate. And if Hataria indeed does try to help you Hatarian Mammalia Canan will declare war on Hataria and Hataria Mammalia.
Hatarian Mammalia
10-08-2004, 15:01
Occ: Hey stupid. Don't speak on others behalf.

IC: Canan will not help you, I will only assist Hataria, who is a protectorate. And if Hataria indeed does try to help you Hatarian Mammalia Canan will declare war on Hataria and Hataria Mammalia.

Hataria has its own trobbles to handle, like one Civil War with the Asakuras. and this Blockcade is to make sure The IDF STAYS OUT of the Hatarian Civil War if they answer to Northern Leader Constantine's Asking for a alliance with them.

Hatarian Mammalia wishies not to start a War with IDF or The Wittier EMPIRE. But if any one of them joins in a Alliance with The Northern Hatarian Army, we will fight them, IF they join The Rebels.
Hataria
10-08-2004, 15:14
We do not want another war with The Wittier Pact, or Empire as the Mammalians call it, Hatarian Mammalia's actions are just, trying to make sure the Civil War in Hataria doesn't become a WORLD WAR. one that could end all Alliances, even the Wittier Empire.

we are not going to help in this Blockcade, we will give them what Navy we have, we don't need it any more. but only for defense against a Invasion by the Evil Empire of Wittier.
Communist Louisiana
10-08-2004, 16:38
We also Hatarian Mammalia to back down or be forced with 3 things we can promise.

1. Your fleet around IDF will be destroyed completely.
2. Your home nation will have a massive blockade around it.
3. If you don't cease all actions gainst IDF, you will have a large amount of VX Nerve Gas fall on your country. (which kills people in minutes(www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana/chemicalweapons.htm))

We will warn you one time to back off or you will lose this war and we will invade your nation ourselves.
Communist Mississippi
10-08-2004, 16:48
We also Hatarian Mammalia to back down or be forced with 3 things we can promise.

1. Your fleet around IDF will be destroyed completely.
2. Your home nation will have a massive blockade around it.
3. If you don't cease all actions gainst IDF, you will have a large amount of VX Nerve Gas fall on your country. (which kills people in minutes(www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana/chemicalweapons.htm))

We will warn you one time to back off or you will lose this war and we will invade your nation ourselves.


OOC- Actually VX Agent usually kills people in under 30 seconds. But yeah, wipe him out. :D
Grenval
10-08-2004, 17:23
Perhaps, if you do not want IDF involvment, simply check ships around your coast to see if they are IDF owned. Then you will actually be somewhat justified. Regardless, get out or be destroyed.
Hatarian Mammalia
10-08-2004, 17:51
We also Hatarian Mammalia to back down or be forced with 3 things we can promise.

1. Your fleet around IDF will be destroyed completely.
2. Your home nation will have a massive blockade around it.
3. If you don't cease all actions gainst IDF, you will have a large amount of VX Nerve Gas fall on your country. (which kills people in minutes(www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana/chemicalweapons.htm))

We will warn you one time to back off or you will lose this war and we will invade your nation ourselves.

Fishing boats and Tankers are soon Armed with Cannons and the Sailors are armed with Guns, swords and other Weapons. The Theat CL sent to the People of Mammalia was a theat of Attack.

The Small Mammalian Air Force, made up of biplanes, F-16 Tomcats, and WWII Airplanes, with B-52 Bombers, Started Patrols in the air, a No-fly zone was puted around the Lagre Island that was Mammalia.

On the Ground, The army and Miniute-Men puted Cannons on the Beaches of The Island. and the Native tribes buy modern Guns to fight any Invaders that land on the Island.
Sdaeriji
10-08-2004, 17:58
General frequency message from the Imperial capital of Sdaeriji


TO: All parties concerned, Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: Admiral Aquil D'guerr, INC, Sdaeriji


Greetings from the Imperial Dominion. I must warn the leadership of Hatarian Mammalia that a blockade of IDF will not be allowed. The Imperial Navy regularly does business with IDF Shipyards, and if Hatarian Mammalia prevents any Sdaerijian purchases from leaving IDF ports, the Imperial Navy will be forced to break the blockade. We do not wish this conflict to come to that, but if you prevent any of our purchases from reaching us, we will treat this as an act of war on the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. We implore you to reconsider this blockade. Already allied support of IDF is forming, and you have almost no support for this obvious act of aggression. Again, the Imperial Dominion implores you to act rationally. No one wants to go to war over this.

Admiral Aquil D'guerr
Chairman of the Imperial Navy of Sdaeriji
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji
Grenval
10-08-2004, 18:01
Fishing boats and Tankers are soon Armed with Cannons and the Sailors are armed with Guns, swords and other Weapons. The Theat CL sent to the People of Mammalia was a theat of Attack.

The Small Mammalian Air Force, made up of biplanes, F-16 Tomcats, and WWII Airplanes, with B-52 Bombers, Started Patrols in the air, a No-fly zone was puted around the Lagre Island that was Mammalia.

On the Ground, The army and Miniute-Men puted Cannons on the Beaches of The Island. and the Native tribes buy modern Guns to fight any Invaders that land on the Island.

[OOC - No it was not a threat. CL is not going to invade your worthless country. Only if you attack IDF will he invade learn to read.]

Grenval does not wish for war, but satellite pictures of Hatarian Mammalia gearing up for war has caused concern. The Grenval Intelligence Center in Blair has been notified of these recent developments. In Rufushian, the 1st Heavy Infantry Division has also been told to be on full alert in case of deployment.
Hataria
10-08-2004, 18:09
General frequency message from the Imperial capital of Sdaeriji


TO: All parties concerned, Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: Admiral Aquil D'guerr, INC, Sdaeriji


Greetings from the Imperial Dominion. I must warn the leadership of Hatarian Mammalia that a blockade of IDF will not be allowed. The Imperial Navy regularly does business with IDF Shipyards, and if Hatarian Mammalia prevents any Sdaerijian purchases from leaving IDF ports, the Imperial Navy will be forced to break the blockade. We do not wish this conflict to come to that, but if you prevent any of our purchases from reaching us, we will treat this as an act of war on the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. We implore you to reconsider this blockade. Already allied support of IDF is forming, and you have almost no support for this obvious act of aggression. Again, the Imperial Dominion implores you to act rationally. No one wants to go to war over this.

Admiral Aquil D'guerr
Chairman of the Imperial Navy of Sdaeriji
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji

Hataria will seek a Peaceful End to the Blockcade Crisis, we do not condone a Invasion of Hatarian Mammalia and will not let this turn into a World War.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
10-08-2004, 18:25
No you are not invading him, but your blockade has no justification and as such is illegal. Further, it consitutes a declaration of war against IDF.

No it does not. Only in the most militiristic terms does it dictate an act of War - Any attack on HM will result in a response from NWV. Let me make that doubly clear - Any attack, be it sinking of his fleet e.t.c, will result in a full Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Response from NWV.
Grenval
10-08-2004, 18:32
Let me make that doubly clear - Any attack, be it sinking of his fleet e.t.c, will result in a full Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Response from NWV.

Due to the potential for war with NWV on two fronts, Grenval has now decided this is the time to increase its nuclear capabilities. For too long, Grenval has set its warhead count at five hundred. While Grenval disapproves of the use of non conventional weapons, this is a dangerous world. It has been declared, therefore, that Grenval shall double its nuclear stockpile, thus bringing the total count to 1,000 nuclear warheads. Let it be known, however, that Grenval does not harbor any chemical or biological weapons within its borders nor outside of said borders.

Derrick Earl Lought
Minister of Defense
Automagfreek
10-08-2004, 18:43
~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Due to our ties with IDF we will be watching this situation closely, and we are ready to react if need be.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg
---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
The Parthians
10-08-2004, 19:53
NWV, will you really support nations like Hataria Mammailia? I support IDF and will launch a counter-blockade of Hataria Mamalia if the situation does not calm down.
Communist Mississippi
10-08-2004, 19:58
"If any ships from Hatarian Mammalia come within 200 miles of CM commonwealth territory, we will be forced to react with force."

(Note CM commonwealth includes Mississippian Libya, Mississippian Egypt, and Western Sahara)

So basically you go anywhere near IDF, and you're more likely than not to be within 200 miles of something CM owns. So you best really think about what you're doing.
The Parthians
10-08-2004, 20:05
Any Hatarian ships disrupting Parthian commerce will be responed to with full scale war.
Communist Louisiana
10-08-2004, 21:18
TO:Nazi Weaponized Virus
FROM: Communist Louisiana
We invite you to use nuclear weapons. Not only will you be crushed completely, I will personally occupy your lands and pillage them of any resources or usefulness. Then I will make your nation NS's largest test site for nuclear weapons and charge nations wishing to conduct military weapons test a small fee to test them on your nation.

Any launch of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons from you on us or anyone will result in a nuclear strike back in which the world has yet to see. I have used nuclear weapons on The Grassroots and after I was done with him, his population was at 100. If you want to same done to you then continue trying to act "brave" by threatening me or my allies. I have a nuclear arsenal that you dream about in your dreams comrade. I will not hesitate to use them if provoked.


Governor Jindal orders 3 Vermillion Wolf Packs to begin their journey to IDF

1st Vermillion Guard
15 Silencer Class Submarine's
10 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
5 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM Submarine)

3rd Vermillion Guard
11 Silencer Class Submarine's
9 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
3 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM ready)

9th Vermillion Guard
9 Silencer Class Submarine's
5 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
1 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM ready)
Doujin
10-08-2004, 21:31
OOC: Skipping over everything, I would like to just state that Hatarian Mammalia could very well have the below fleet. Quit talking out of your asses everyone.

120 Freedom Fist Class Destroyers (The small kind)
23Liberaty Class Battleships
34RebelionClass Subs
12Nimtz Class Air craft Carriers
Canan
10-08-2004, 21:33
Hataria, if you aid Hataria Mammalia then Canan will not give any aid what so ever to the people of Canan.

Hataria Mammalia we urge you to bring your warships back to your own waters, or Canan may aid in ridding the waters around IDF of their presence. Your blockade is unjust, if you do not wish for any foreign presence in Hataria then setup a blockade around Hataria.

IDF, if you do choose to land troops in Hataria to aid the rebels it will be taken as an act of war against Canan, and open war shall be waged between our two nations. (I havent heard anything from you on the matter, but I would like to hear what you have to say about it)
Mental lands
10-08-2004, 21:40
Any action taken against IDF by Hatarian forces will result in the destruction of the blockading fleet. The 5th fleet has already departed from one of our navel bases near IDF, to the blockades postion upon hearing this news. and should be there within a couple of hours.

The 5th fleet consists of:
2 Domination class Carrier’s, 4 Imperium class Battle Ships, 6 Repentance class Cruisers, 10 Vengeance class destroyers, 15 Fury class frigates, 10 Defiance class SSN, 6 Retribution Class SSBN.
Jennivier
10-08-2004, 21:47
TO:Nazi Weaponized Virus
FROM: Communist Louisiana


Any launch of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons from you on us or anyone will result in a nuclear strike back in which the world has yet to see. I have used nuclear weapons on The Grassroots and after I was done with him, his population was at 100. If you want to same done to you then continue trying to act "brave" by threatening me or my allies. I have a nuclear arsenal that you dream about in your dreams comrade. I will not hesitate to use them if provoked.


Governor Jindal orders 3 Vermillion Wolf Packs to begin their journey to IDF

1st Vermillion Guard
15 Silencer Class Submarine's
10 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
5 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM Submarine)

3rd Vermillion Guard
11 Silencer Class Submarine's
9 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
3 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM ready)

9th Vermillion Guard
9 Silencer Class Submarine's
5 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
1 Los Angeles Class Submarine's (SLBM ready)

Jennivier backs this proposal to an extent. Such unjustified usage of WMAs will not be allowed. The full and complete demilitarization of NWV will happen if such a horrendous thing is put forth into action. Your nation will occupied by Jennivier and her allies; we garuntee this. It is hereby urged to you that you reconsider your previous statement.

OOC: In reference to NWV, not the user quoted above.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
10-08-2004, 21:49
Due to the potential for war with NWV on two fronts, Grenval has now decided this is the time to increase its nuclear capabilities. For too long, Grenval has set its warhead count at five hundred. While Grenval disapproves of the use of non conventional weapons, this is a dangerous world. It has been declared, therefore, that Grenval shall double its nuclear stockpile, thus bringing the total count to 1,000 nuclear warheads. Let it be known, however, that Grenval does not harbor any chemical or biological weapons within its borders nor outside of said borders.

Derrick Earl Lought
Minister of Defense

From: The Office of The President of Nazi Weaponized Virus
To: All
Another day, another false pretext for War. This situation can be resolved without conflict yet people do not take that route. They simply want to try out thier new F-35's or ICBM's on an unsuspecting nation. Granted, what he did/is doing is totally provokative, and as an ally of IDF I deplore it. But NWV will NOT allow countries to be invaded under such pathetic pretenses. As I said before, Every wing of our Armed Forces that falls under Nuclear Doctrine is now designating targets or preparing for defense - Chemical, Biological and Nuclear Warheads of up to 600 Kt. are being primed for launch as are Chem/Bio Shells, IRBMs, Nuclear SLBM's and Plane bourne Explosives.

NWV has finds it sickening that again, The Entire Whittier Pact has decided to force War upon a new Nation. We find it sickening that in our attempts to defend this nation diplomatically we have recieved verbal threats from Communist Lousiniana - though not taken seriously, these threats signify and epitomise exactly what is expected, unwarranted aggresion.

We have no problem with going down under such terrible force. But I guarantee the warmongers of the World. I will take you down with me.

President Hitler II
Industrial Experiment
10-08-2004, 21:56
Jennivier backs this proposal to an extent. Such unjustified usage of WMAs will not be allowed. The full and complete demilitarization of NWV will happen if such a horrendous thing is put forth into action. Your nation will occupied by Jennivier and her allies; we garuntee this. It is hereby urged to you that you reconsider your previous statement.

OOC: In reference to NWV, not the user quoted above.

Demilitarization?

No, we're talking depopulation. NWV's willingness to use massive amounts of WMD's in this situation demonstrates an extreme lack of respect for human life.

We of the ICRC are quite willing to contribute the Southern fleet to the breaking of this blockade. Seeing as our nation concentrates almost entirely on naval prowess and the naval aviation to back it up, our carrier force is quite capable of turning the meager Hatarian Mammalia task force into nothing more than small bits of metal floating out at sea.

However, we also acknowledge the fact that IDF could most likely accomplish this himself, and instead will stand off a 150 miles from the blockading fleet, prepared to help IDF should he ask for it.

EDIT: In the light of NWV fully describing its intentions in this possible conflict, we of the ICRC would like to make completely clear to NWV our apathy towards to possible invasion, and we only wish to end the blockade. A large portion of our navy comes from the IDF shipyards, and we don't want to see people who have given us so much suffer under such conditions as these.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
10-08-2004, 22:02
The First Fleet has been dispatched to International Waters to 'Observe' The Situation as it unfolds, and make sure nobody breaks any International Obligations.

2 Carrier Groups in each Fleet, each contains:
- 1 Elessar Class SuperCarrier
* 30 F-57C's.
* 35 F-35 JSF's (VTOL).
* 15 A-X Alexanders.
* 10 F-14A/B/D Tomcat's.
* 1 E-2C Hawkeye.
* 4 EA-34C's.
* 5 RA-5C Vigilantes.
- 4 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers.
- 3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers.
- 2 General Purpose Gunboats.
- 2 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates (50 Tactical Tomahawks and 50 TLAMS on each).
- 2 Virginia Class Future Attack Submarine.
- 2 Trident II Class Ballistic Missile Submarines (30 Tactical Tomahawks and 25 TLAMS on each).
- 1 Inchon Class Command Minesweeper.
- 1 Command Ship.
- 1 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship.
- 3 Liberty Class Supply Ships.

1 Heavy Battle Group in each Fleet:
- 1 Calypso-class Dreadnaught in each.
- 1 Tyrant Class Battleship in each.
- 2 Isla De Plata-class Amphibious Assault Ships in each.
- 1 Iowa Class Battleship in each.
- 1 Curtis Fabus Class Battleship in each.
- 2 Rilos Class Destroyers in each.
- 1 Illeana Vassili-Class Carriers in each.
- 2 DDG-993 Kidd Class Destroyers in each.
* 30 F87's in each.
* 40 F/A-18's in each.
* 20 F-5K's in each.
* 20 A12's in each.
* 5 F117's in each.
* 2 Seakings's in each.
* 3 AH-1X's in each.

Hattarian Mammalia must break up the Blockade, otherwise we will attempt to take over the ships using non lethal means.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 00:00
The Goverment of Hatarian Mammalia has sent Privateers in to IDF and Wittier Waters and has ended the Blockade around the IDF.

Hatarian Mammalia has also declared a Embargo against The IDF, The Parthians, and all Wittier Pact Nations, and all Ports in Mammalia is Close to all ships from said nations. only ships from Canan, Hataria, Kroton and NWV. are to dock in Hatarian Mammalia.
CorpSac
11-08-2004, 00:32
OOC: you do know in RL a blockade is an act of war (its why during the Cuban missile crises the blockade of cuba was called a quarantine and not a blockaide) so really anyone supporting IDF and IDF him/herself can attack any part of Hatarian Mammalia and not be called warmongers (well unless international laws changed or is it maritine(SP?) law? meh never can remmber)

IC:

The dark empire is glad to see cooler head provailing and no shooting war started
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 00:41
OOC: Dam I was hopeing for a war because i have way to may missiles and bombs lying about.

IC: with the order to disband the blockade most of the 5th fleet have turned about and are heading back to port with the exceptions of one frigate which is staying behind to monitor the departure of the Hatarian fleet.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 01:12
The Mammalian Fleat will go back to Hatarian Mammalia on Stand-by in case the Blockade is to be redepolyed if war starts

The Pirate Union, a Fleat of privateers, will Raid the Shipping Lanes near IDF, Parthia, and Wittier in a Quasi-War against said Nations.

This new Quasi-War is to stop any theat of said Nations helping The Rebels in Northern Hataria, and will help keep the Embargo going.
Canan
11-08-2004, 01:15
Canan's two fleets conducting regular patrols around Hataria and Canan will destroy any ship that is classified as a pirate ship.

We repeat, we will shoot first, ask questions later.
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 01:20
I will also be sending ships from the 15th patrol group to patrol the area. There orders are to sink pirate vessels on site.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 01:23
OOC: a Quasi-War is a war, but not a True War. Quasi Means 'Half'

IC: only ships from IDF, Parthia and Wittier will be attacked by the Pirates.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 01:26
The Goverment of Hatarian Mammalia has sent Privateers in to IDF and Wittier Waters and has ended the Blockade around the IDF.

This is a direct violation of sovereignty. Two naval armaments each have been sent to the privateers in IDF waters and the Privateers in Whittier waters. You have twelve hours, do not delay.

Derrick Earl Lought
Minister of Defense
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 01:31
OOC: a Quasi-War is a war, but not a True War. Quasi Means 'Half'

IC: only ships from IDF, Parthia and Wittier will be attacked by the Pirates.

The rest of us will attack any ships caught attacking them.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 01:36
Time is dwindling.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 01:45
Hatarian Mammalia will Continute to have Privateers in IDF, Wittier, and Parthian Waters to inforce the Embargo
Grenval
11-08-2004, 01:51
Remove them now or face dire consequences. Grenval considers government tolerated terrorism an act of open war. The time is upon you, within the hour, the troops shall be on the ships.

President George
Ruler of Grenval
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 02:15
Remove them now or face dire consequences. Grenval considers government tolerated terrorism an act of open war. The time is upon you, within the hour, the troops shall be on the ships.

President George
Ruler of Grenval


You don't have to decalre war.........

HATARIAN MAMMALIA DECLARES WAR ON GRENVAL!
IDF
11-08-2004, 02:17
I will not ignore this and will fight it out, just logged on for the 1st time since this was posted so let me read the whole thing and make a real response, thanks. I will accepct this fleet and send it to the bottom when I do. All help is welcome.
Hataria
11-08-2004, 02:22
You don't have to decalre war.........

HATARIAN MAMMALIA DECLARES WAR ON GRENVAL!

We have this to say....

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
IDF
11-08-2004, 02:28
The Goverment of Hatarian Mammalia has sent Privateers in to IDF and Wittier Waters and has ended the Blockade around the IDF.

Hatarian Mammalia has also declared a Embargo against The IDF, The Parthians, and all Wittier Pact Nations, and all Ports in Mammalia is Close to all ships from said nations. only ships from Canan, Hataria, Kroton and NWV. are to dock in Hatarian Mammalia.

Good luck with your international trade if only 4 nations can trade with you, say hello to depression for me.
Hataria
11-08-2004, 02:30
Hataria will Not help Hatarian Mammalia or any Nation at war with Hatarian Mammalia. We will Seek a Peaceful End to what has been dubed "The Quasi-War"
IDF
11-08-2004, 02:33
OOC: a Quasi-War is a war, but not a True War. Quasi Means 'Half'

IC: only ships from IDF, Parthia and Wittier will be attacked by the Pirates.
I will declare war on you and flatten you as Whittier Pact did to Hataria if you don't stop immediately. IDF forces are on high alert and fleets are taking position in the Eastern end of the Indian Ocean so they are close to the Pacific if we have to go and attack you. Stop your pirates now or face our larger, more advanced Navy complete with Dreadnoughts. (2 of which are being sent to the ops area to get you to back down). It will take a little while for some of the ships to arrive, but not too long. Fleet CO is Admiral Joseph Halsey (no relation to the WWII Admiral)

signed,

Secretary of State/Defense Ben Tallman
Grenval
11-08-2004, 02:34
3:00 Hours; Outside IDF Waters; Mediterranean Sea

The naval armaments stand outside IDF waters, looking for priates. One is quickly spotted. Two SSN-774 Virginia NSSN Attack Submarines move in for the kill. Each launches a torpedo. The missiles swish through the water, nearing the enemy ship...

--

4:00 Hours; Grenval Military Base Vialish; Rufushian, Grenval

All 500 B-2 bombers took to the sky, fanning out as they approached the enemy territory. Each had specific orders: Bomb every military installation to hell, but do not touch a single civilian. Their clusterbombs readied, the bombers approached their targets...

--

6:00 hours; Grenval News Network; Grenval City, Grenval

Today, an enemy known as Hatarian Mammalia has declared war on Grenval. While President George has not declared war upon the attacking nation, he has told us that the alert status has been raised to DEFCON 3. He has also issued the warning that Hatarian Mammalia is known for supporting terrorism. When asked about an invasion, all the President would say is that the 1st, 8th, 9th, and 10th Heavy Infantry Divisions have been alerted. He also mentioned that the 8th, 9th, and 10th Heavy Calvary Divisions have been alerted. Due to these developments, the Minister of Defense has told us that all troops in Hawiaan Islands have returned home. He also stated that all but one division in Roach-Busters has returned home, but all five hundred helicopters will remain in Roach-Busters. The Heavy Calvary Division in Generic Empire has also come home. Stay tuned for more on this 'situation'.
Copyright 2004
GNN
Grenval
11-08-2004, 02:38
[OOC - FYI:

One Naval Armament: 1 CVX Class Carriers; 5 SSN-774 Virginia NSSN Attack Submarines; 2 SSGN-726 Trident Ohio Class Submarines; 5 CG-21 Class Cruisers; 15 DD-21 Class Destroyers
Carrier Contains: 40 F-22 Raptors, 40 Av-8B Harrier IIs; ASW

One Heavy Infantry Division: 20,000 Infantry; 1,000 M120 Mortars; 50 M109A6 Paladin Howitzers; all mounted in M113A3 Armored Personal Carrier

One Heavy Calvary Division: 1,000 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks; 50 M109A6 Paladin Howitzers; 50 M993 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems; 10 Patriot Missile Batteries

Remember I have sent in or alerted multiples of each. 2 Armaments sent in, 4 Infantry Alerted, and 3 Calvary Alerted.]
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 02:39
I will declare war on you and flatten you as Whittier Pact did to Hataria if you don't stop immediately. IDF forces are on high alert and fleets are taking position in the Eastern end of the Indian Ocean so they are close to the Pacific if we have to go and attack you. Stop your pirates now or face our larger, more advanced Navy complete with Dreadnoughts. (2 of which are being sent to the ops area to get you to back down). It will take a little while for some of the ships to arrive, but not too long. Fleet CO is Admiral Joseph Halsey (no relation to the WWII Admiral)

signed,

Secretary of State/Defense Ben Tallman

Hatarian Mammalia Declares on on said Nations

IDF
Wittier
Parthia

We are doing a Defensive against any Invasion, our Fleet is ringing the Island our Nation is on. The Army, numbering at 500,000 and growing will Fight in Hataria against the Asakuras, and on The High Sea.

We ask that no one Use WMDs in this war.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 02:43
6:20 Hours; Grenval News Network; Grenval City, Grenval

Back to the 'situation'. President George has declared that no non conventional weapons will be used because our enemies have asked against it, and we will respect that request. President George also said that no invasion is planned, but if our allies invade, Grenval will fully support said action. More later.
Copyright 2004
GNN
Grenval
11-08-2004, 02:44
[OOC - IDF, do you have a MSN address I can talk to you at?]
IDF
11-08-2004, 02:52
[OOC - IDF, do you have a MSN address I can talk to you at?]
no MSN, typing a response to kill some fleet ships now
Sdaeriji
11-08-2004, 02:53
General frequency message from the Imperial capital of Sdaeriji


TO: All parties concerned, Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: Admiral Aquil D'guerr, INC, Sdaeriji


Once again we must implore the nation of Hatarian Mammalia to reconsider this war. Although we have no military alliance with the nations of IDF, Whittier, or Grenval, the Imperial Dominion does do extensive trade with all three nations, and any disruption of Sdaerijian trade by Mammalian forces will be treated as an act of aggression on the Imperial Dominion. Not only does this include Sdaerijian vessels engaging in trade in IDF, Whittier, or Grenval ports, but vessels of the aforementioned nations carrying Sdaerijian goods. As long as Hatarian Mammalia can refrain from attacking any vessels involved in Sdaerijian trade, the Imperial Dominion will remain officially neutral in this conflict. However, we warn you that any loss of Sdaerijian vessels or vessels engaging in trade with Sdaeriji will be viewed with the utmost contempt.

Admiral Aquil D'guerr
Chairman of the Imperial Navy of Sdaeriji
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji
IDF
11-08-2004, 03:00
USS HAWK Guillen class BDGN, Western Indian Ocean, near retreating Hatarian Mamalian fleet

"Admiral, Hatarian fleet is about 450 miles West of us," said fleet TAO Captain Jim Morrison.

"How reliable is this?" asked Admiral Halsey

"From the Grenval fleet sir," said MOrrison. "they are engagint HM fleets now."

"OK, BATTLESTATIONS!!!"

"General Quarters, General Quarters, all hands man your battlestations," yelled the Officer of the Watch as all ships in the fleet did the same.

"They are in missile range for the SS-N-32 missiles," said Morrison.

"Weps," said the Admiral. "Fire all SS-N-32s we have in forward cell groups. Aim for their carriers, the Aegis IIIs have picked them up on surface search. I want all 62 missiles fired.

"Aye sir," said Weapons officer Commander Tom Frist. "With the other ships in the fleet that are poised to fire we will have about 1,155 of the anti-ship supersonic missiles. They will mainly go for carriers and battleships"

"Good," said Adm. Halsey. "Radio, get the 6 Ohio SSGNs up to Comms depth, have them fire all TASM IX Supersonics." That provided for 900 of the deadly TASM missiles headed for the fleet. They would all be launched by 35 minutes. IDF carriers sent up planes, but they wouldn't attack the fleet yet.

Bandar Abas AFB and Naval base, Parthian Iran

IDF AF had 76 of their prized supersonic Tu-22R Backfires. They were up in the air 2 hours after ordered up by Admiral Halsey who now took theater control off the planes and ships for the strike. They were heavily laden with 6 AS-8 missiles each. They didn't have to carry as much fuel due to range and this allowed the more missiles to be carried.

They refueled in groups of 5 or 6 from KC-767s South of the Parthian base over Oman, once going over the Northern beaches of the Arabian Sea, the fleet was on the Southern end of the Sea. The Backfires quickly launched all of their 456 of their high speed anti-ship missiles. They then turned back on full afterburner at over mach 2 to get out of danger and back to Bandar Abas. The missiles had 325 miles to travel and get to the fleet.

http://user1.7host.com/drno/news/C802_109.jpg
Communist Mississippi
11-08-2004, 03:04
CM is sending an ultimatum to Hatarian Mammalia, "We have recently pledged to rid our nation of 1/2 of our chemical and biological weapons. Leave IDF along or we will rid ourselves of the required weapons by launching them at you!" Paul Stahlecker, foreign minister.
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 03:18
On board the C.L.S. Venice Silencer Class Submarine), Commander Fontenot sights the first battleship belonging to Hatarian Mammalia

Commander Fontenot: Visual of Hatarian Mammalia battleship. Get coordination’s on the ship asap.

Is told the coordinates and places the call to General Gaspard

Commander Fontenot: We have been given information that Hatarian Mammalia has declaired war on IDF. Becuase of this evidence, we have been given permission to engage Hatarian Mammalia.

Commander Fontenot radio's the rest of the 1st Vermillion Wolf pack for fire on sight demands. Seconds later 2 torpedos are launched at the Hatarian Mammalia battleship

Communist Louisiana declairs war on Hatarian Mammalia.
IDF
11-08-2004, 03:20
OOC: He's got alot of attacks to respond to.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 03:24
OOC: He's got alot of attacks to respond to.

[OOC - No kidding. Haha.

Hatarian Mammalia if you back off now, I am sure things can be settled quite easily. Like total and complete disarment.]
Canan
11-08-2004, 03:26
Occ: Not another one.
Annoying peoples
11-08-2004, 03:31
hi
Grenval
11-08-2004, 03:34
hi

Gee, thanks for making the world a better place. And since you are a n00b, go read the Stickies instead of making random posts. And if you want to say "hi" make a thread saying that and that you would like some allies, trading parters, etc. (Asshole. I really cannot explain it. Normally I would not get this ticked at a random post, but for some reason...)
Izistan
11-08-2004, 03:35
OOC: Mind if I join?
IMS Blackfish, 120 kilometers from IDF mainland.

The Orcinus class SSN had been tailing a pirate vessel for sometime now, it slowly manovered into a good firing position. The forward torpedo tubes flooded and opened, and a few seconds later it fired two MK-48 torpedoes at what looked like a harmless cargo vessel, but was in reality a armed merchant raider.

Izistan will stand by IDF in this conflict, and supports any IDF actions against the agressor.

OOC: And now another attack for him to respond to...
Grenval
11-08-2004, 03:38
OOC: Mind if I join?
IMS Blackfish, 120 kilometers from IDF mainland.

The Orcinus class SSN was tailing a pirate vessel, it slowly manovered into a good firing position. The forward torpedo tubes flooded and opened, and a few seconds later it fired two MK-48 torpedoes at what looked like a harmless cargo vessel, but was in reality a armed merchant raider.

Izistan will stand by IDF in this conflict, and supports any IDF actions against the agressor.

OOC: And now another attack for him to respond to...

[OOC - Haha.]
IDF
11-08-2004, 03:45
OOC: His only option with this many attacks may be surrender
Izistan
11-08-2004, 03:46
OOC: If he surrives at all...
Jennivier
11-08-2004, 04:30
Jennivier pledges full support to IDF should it be needed. You can trust that you will NOT lose this war. Lansings and, if needed, Acasia standfast in my guard as well. You have a full support so long as WMAs are not brought it without due consent. It is obvious that this enemy is, and I quote, "off their rocker." We musn't allow senseless acts like this to go unpunished in the modern world. Godspeed.
Izistan
11-08-2004, 05:20
In a move that completely shocked and suprised Izistani citizens, the Peoples Democratic Republic has ordered two Orcinus class SSN's to the Western Indian Ocean to support miltary action against Hatarian Mammalia. The IMS Takara and the IMS Kyu will depart within a few hours.

-Izistani News Network.

OOC: Thats all I could think of, now I must be off until tommororw...
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 12:35
My 1st Fleet has arrived, The Trident II's are armed with 100 Kt. Warheads in 4 MRV ICBM's. That is 32 Warheads in each, and 128 in all. Any attempt to use WMD or bombing of civilian targets in Hattarian Mamalia will result in a full response from the Government of NWV using necessary means to make sure it does not happen again, as it has become clear this cannot be solved by Diplomacy you are free to break up the blockade, but again, let me emphasize that use of WMD or bombing of civlian areas will not be tolerated under International Law - please abide by this.
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 12:59
OOC: great i go to bed and all hell breaks lose. well now its my turn to attack.

IC: when the attack broke out the 5th fleet once again turned about to offer assistance. Since they were out of weapons range the 2 carriers launched 30 JSF's each. The planes equipped with 2 Sea eagle long range anti ship missiles. As soon as the planes come into range they each fire off their missiles and turning quickly to spend as little time as possible in enemy AA range. Now with 120 missiles speeding to the enemy fleet what are they going to do.

Meanwhile on the DNS Spartan, the frigate that was left behind. Captain Ramsey’s looked at one of the enemy battleships just off the stern. The attack order had only recently been issued and the Spartan couldn’t take that ship out without support.

"Helm all ahead full. Weapons, fire everything we have at those forward turrets so they can't stop us escaping."

The SLAM-ER harpoons with titanium warheads, for better amour penetration, Shot out of the launchers and came about heading directly at the enemies turrets.

OOC: Don't believe me on the SLAM-ER harpoon then take a look at this link (http://navysite.de/weapons/harpoon.htm)
Maxamillion
11-08-2004, 13:23
The Riechstag shows its suport for IDF if any should attack. The perpitrator shall find a large number of H-bombs being droped upon them.


The High Command
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 14:45
The head of the Mammalian Armed forces looked at the attacks that happened. It looked like that the only why to beat the Alliance against them was to fight a Naval War.

already 20 Ships were destroyed in this Quasi-War, as the war was being called, and half their forces in Hataria Fighting The Asakuras, it seemed that a Land war wasn't good for them. If the Fleat was to defeat the enemy on the High seas with Priate attacks and Sub Attacks on Invasion Fleats and Air craft Carriers, then the enemy would sue for peace.

The Fleat was been ordered in to action!

all Privateers and Subs to attack Enemy shiping!
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 14:51
OCC: Hatarian Mammalia you need to post your losses from my attack and if anyoen else attacked you. I need to know asap.
Ericadia
11-08-2004, 14:56
OOC: Hatarian Mammalia are you completely freaking nuts?! This wont be a war it'll be genocide! If I were you I'd surrender before you piss anyone else off.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 15:00
OOC: Hatarian Mammalia are you completely freaking nuts?! This wont be a war it'll be genocide! If I were you I'd surrender before you piss anyone else off.


In fact.........A Nation with a Navy has a 57% chance of Wining a Naval War, so, I will continue to fight The Quasi-War
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 15:10
TO: Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: General Gaspard

You will back down now, or we will step up attacks on all your naval vessels, both civilian and militaristic. We will also bring in our large battleship groups and carrier fleets.
Jennivier
11-08-2004, 15:11
In a move aimed toward enforcing peace and stability, rather then war, Jennivier has decided to initiate the forces of it's 100th fleet, the Special Peace Enforcing Division. The fleet has been ordered to take a position of no less then 100 miles and no more then 135 miles from the naval forces of Nazi Weaponized Virus. This fleet consists mostly of class 167 destroyers and type 55 frigates. One aircraft carrier has been brought in as well, and is loaded with 30 JH-7 class fighter bombers.

Jennivier's anti-nuclear forces have also been raised to threat level 3 (1 highest, 4 lowest pretty standard). Anti-nuclear sattelites have been rotated and position over the Western Indian Ocean. With a response time of near zero, these have a 99% chance of destroying any and all WMAs fired the NWV navy, or any other WMAs fired by attacking/defending forces.

The government of Jennivier assures the public that this is a move of caution rather then aggresion. Jennivier shall not bring it's forces into action unless they themselves are fired upon. We remind you that our forces are at least 100 miles from the closest action. Any shots fired upon the Jenniverian forces will not be taken lightly and will result in a swift attack from our Navy upon that nation's (s') forces. We assure you that you will regret such a move.

WMAs used by any nation's forces will, too, result in the swift counter by Jennivier. Your launch will be unsuccessful thanks to our blessed technology. Such a launch would result in the full and permanent occupation of your nation by Jennivier and her allies. All nations should head this warning and maintain a low profile. Jennivier still stands behind IDF, but does not wish to be called into action at this point. Good day.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 15:19
TO: Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: General Gaspard

You will back down now, or we will step up attacks on all your naval vessels, both civilian and militaristic. We will also bring in our large battleship groups and carrier fleets.

We have Declared War on Communist Louisiana, and have sent 34 Rebelion Subs to Blockade the Coast of said Nation.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 15:44
In a move aimed toward enforcing peace and stability, rather then war, Jennivier has decided to initiate the forces of it's 100th fleet, the Special Peace Enforcing Division. The fleet has been ordered to take a position of no less then 100 miles and no more then 135 miles from the naval forces of Nazi Weaponized Virus. This fleet consists mostly of class 167 destroyers and type 55 frigates. One aircraft carrier has been brought in as well, and is loaded with 30 JH-7 class fighter bombers.

Jennivier's anti-nuclear forces have also been raised to threat level 3 (1 highest, 4 lowest pretty standard). Anti-nuclear sattelites have been rotated and position over the Western Indian Ocean. With a response time of near zero, these have a 99% chance of destroying any and all WMAs fired the NWV navy, or any other WMAs fired by attacking/defending forces.

The government of Jennivier assures the public that this is a move of caution rather then aggresion. Jennivier shall not bring it's forces into action unless they themselves are fired upon. We remind you that our forces are at least 100 miles from the closest action. Any shots fired upon the Jenniverian forces will not be taken lightly and will result in a swift attack from our Navy upon that nation's (s') forces. We assure you that you will regret such a move.

WMAs used by any nation's forces will, too, result in the swift counter by Jennivier. Your launch will be unsuccessful thanks to our blessed technology. Such a launch would result in the full and permanent occupation of your nation by Jennivier and her allies. All nations should head this warning and maintain a low profile. Jennivier still stands behind IDF, but does not wish to be called into action at this point. Good day.

OOC: 60 Destroyers and 1 Aircraft Carrier.... Are you stupid?

IC: We are positioning are fleet to face The Jennivierian Ships, Trident II's and Frigates and Cruisers are having targets designated for attack. The Arleigh Burkes are radar aiming thier guns as well. Any attack on The NWV Navy will result in a full retaliatory action - Our Aircraft Carriers are dispatching Surveillance Planes to get a better look at your Positions. Stand down this unnecessary Militiristic Stance or we will attack.
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 15:52
TO: Hatarian Mammalia
FROM: Governor Jindal

You are a moron comrade. Not only will you have heavy losses by enter the Gulf, I will promise you that none of your naval vessels will ever make past Cuba. Look at the maps my friend, you have Communist Mississippi(Mississippi), Aztec National League(All of Mexico and Central America), Neo-Soviet Russia(Cuba, Jamaca, Puerto Rico, Florida Keys), and I(Louisiana, Hatti, French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Barbados) all on the Gulf coast. You go ahead and send ships in, but they wont make it past Hatti.


Governor Jindal and Commander Gaspard order the 1st and 3rd Fleets into the Eastern Gulf

1st Red Carrier Fleet

3 Infusion Class Carriers (100 planes per Carrier)
x75 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
x35 RAH-66 Comanche
x30 P-7 (LRAACA)
x60 F-22 Raptor's
x100 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel
2 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers (85 planes per Carrier)
x10 Hawkeye's
x60 F-5 Tiger II
x50 AH-64 Apache
x50 F-77's

3 Parche Class Intelligence Submarine
5 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
3 Silencer Class Submarine

5 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's

2 Iowa Class Battleship's
2 Leviathon Class Trimaran Battleships’
3 Tidal class Battleship's
5 Skjold Class Battleships
5 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleships

2 Observation Island Class Radar Ship
1 Emory S. Land Class Submarine Tender's
1 Mercy Class Hospital Ship's
2 Safeguard Class Rescue and Salvage Ship
3 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunter
2 Wright Class Aviation Logistics Support Ship

3rd Red Carrier Fleet

5 Infusion Class Carriers (100 planes per Carrier)
x100 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel’s
x50 F-5 Tiger II
x50 F-20 Tigershark
x15 S-3B Viking
x85 F-77's
x100 F-22’s
x50 AH-64 Apache
x50 RAH-66 Comanche
4 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers (85 planes per Carrier)
x75 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel’s
x65 F/A-18 Hornet's
x100 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
x25 P-3 Orion
x25 AH-64 Apache
x35 RAH-66 Comanche
x15 Hawkeye's

4 Parche Class Intelligence Submarine
7 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
5 Silencer Class Submarine

9 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's

10 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleships
8 Skjold Class Battleships
8 Leviathon Class Trimaran Battleships
10 Tidal class Battleship's

20 Mark V Special Operations Craft
10 Cyclone Class Patrol Coastal Boat

4 Observation Island Class Radar Ship
2 Emory S. Land Class Submarine Tender's
3 Mercy Class Hospital Ship's
5 Safeguard Class Rescue and Salvage Ship
5 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunter
4 Wright Class Aviation Logistics Support Ship
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 15:58
The WNN Alexander The Great Aircraft Carrier is preparing for Recon sortees over the Communist Louisiana Fleet. They will be launched soon and will gather data about the incoming Fleets positions and strategic formation arrangement.
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 16:05
TO: Nazi Weaponized Virus
FROM: CL

If any of your planes fly over any of our territories airspace, we will reserve the right to shoot them down and take the pilots in as spies which is punishable by death.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 16:11
You do not control International Waters, we are commencing the recon assignment, 3 GlobalHawks took off 3 NS Hours ago and are currently heading towards your fleet, they will arrive within radar range in 5 NS Minutes, they are unmanned and thus if you shoot them down you will not have the chnace to carry out any unlawful executions. We will gather information on the fleet, and then return - if they are shot down, a state of War will exist between both our nations.

This is not an attack, simply to stop any carpet bombing or use of WMD.
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 16:20
TO: Nazi Weaponized Virus
FROM: CL

None of the fleets have SLBM's. We only have our Los Angeles Class Submarine's fitted with SLBM's. Their are none apart of the fleet. They are either in various ports around the Gulf and World or they are on missions.

Also, espionage(sp?) is a justified reason to shoot down an aircraft, especially since you will have to fly over either one of my territores since we are in Louisiana Territorial waters or my allies which I am allowed to protect their investments & interest.
Jennivier
11-08-2004, 16:24
OOC: Stupid no, conservative yes. I never gave a total for destroyers either.

IC: Jennivier acknowledges your statement and that like to urge the fact that you will be crushed should you fire. Run the numbers our fair friend. Not only will you lose a navy, but you will lose a nation, your nation. It will annexed into a Jennivierian state.

Jennivierian ships are monitoring the situation via sattelite at this point in time. All decisions will be made based off of digital imaging from our latest sattelites. This saves time, the lives of men, and more importantly money. Jenniverian forces stand battle ready to monitor the usuage of WMAs.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 16:24
Ok, we will pull back.
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 16:27
OOC: back to the Hatarians

IC:With the obvious use of many enemy battleships the 3rd and 8th Battle group have been dispatched to help bring this war to a quick and decisive end.

Each battle group consists of

15 Imperium Class Battleships
10 Vengeance Class AGIES Destroyers
5 Defender Air defence frigates.

We are also preparing to move out troops, as this has to be the bulk of the hatarian navy so invasion of his country will soon follow the defeat of his navy.

also our 5th fleet is now in strikeing distance of the hatarian fleet and have launched around 200 SLAM-ER amour pirceing missiles while al ships keep moveing closer so they can use thire cannons and the subs can use thire torpedeos.

OOC: I'm not going to give you a chance to surrender. also you could post the kills of my last attack.
Jennivier
11-08-2004, 16:30
Ok, we will pull back.

Notice to: Nazi Weapnized Virus

Excellent. Jennivier wishes to extend it's sign of neutrality. We shall show no sign of aggresion to your navy providing that: no WMAs are used in this warfare unless of due cause..No shots or signs of aggresion are showed to our ships and/or military forces. Jennivier hereby maintains it distance of 135 miles from the nearest forces of any said navy.
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 16:36
OCC: We also need to know the casualties of our attack.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 16:40
OOC: back to the Hatarians

IC:With the obvious use of many enemy battleships the 3rd and 8th Battle group have been dispatched to help bring this war to a quick and decisive end.

Each battle group consists of

15 Imperium Class Battleships
10 Vengeance Class AGIES Destroyers
5 Defender Air defence frigates.

We are also preparing to move out troops, as this has to be the bulk of the hatarian navy so invasion of his country will soon follow the defeat of his navy.

also our 5th fleet is now in strikeing distance of the hatarian fleet and have launched around 200 SLAM-ER amour pirceing missiles while al ships keep moveing closer so they can use thire cannons and the subs can use thire torpedeos.

OOC: I'm not going to give you a chance to surrender. also you could post the kills of my last attack.


I am not Hataria.

HATARIA: West Pacific
HATARIAN MAMMALIA: North Pacific

Oi, when will you guy ever learn the differnce between West Pacific and North Pacific.........
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 16:55
I am not Hataria.

HATARIA: West Pacific
HATARIAN MAMMALIA: North Pacific

Oi, when will you guy ever learn the differnce between West Pacific and North Pacific.........


DUH! its just easier to just type out Hatarian
The Parthians
11-08-2004, 17:04
The following are being deployed to assist the IDF fleet:
10 Nimitz class Carriers
4 Gullien Class Superbattleships
8 Iowa class battleships
45 Ticonderoga class crusiers
55 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
25 Oliver Hazard Perry Class frigates
10 California class missile crusiers
20 Tarawa class amphibious landing vessels.

(OOC: Sorry to numberwank but I'm busy)
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 17:09
OCC: Stop trying to change the damn subject and post your damn casualties. You wanted war and now your not posting kills. I will post them for you if you dont very soon.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 17:16
OCC: Stop trying to change the damn subject and post your damn casualties. You wanted war and now your not posting kills. I will post them for you if you dont very soon.

I was busy..

34 ships (2 Subs)

123 Sailors (Not The Sailor Scouts from Sailor Moon)

5 Pirate ships
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 17:22
OOC: lets make this a Open/All Tech Role Play, Ok?
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 17:25
OCC: Modern, it would be to hard to also RP space ships.
IDF
11-08-2004, 17:27
OOC: lets make this a Open/All Tech Role Play, Ok?
OOC: modern only

IC: IDF's Guillen class dreadnoughts were now in firing range of the ships. USS OZZIE GUILLEN and USS FRANK THOMAS were in range of the enemy fleet. They raised their 18 30 in guns and opened fire on the fleet, the shells were computer guided and 40% accurate, but only 1 would kill most ships and there were a total of 36 of the heavy guns being fired every 45 seconds. Attrition to the enemy fleet should be quick. The escorts were ready and watching the fleet 300 miles away and ready to counter any attack. Carriers had planes up and now IDF based backfires numbering at 187 were making 2 attacks a day with their 6 AS-8 missiles. The fleet would not likely last the day. 3 more OHio class SSGNs contributed by firing 450 of their TASM IXs at the fleet.
IDF
11-08-2004, 17:28
I was busy..

34 ships (2 Subs)

123 Sailors (Not The Sailor Scouts from Sailor Moon)

5 Pirate ships

what type of ships? HOw many carriers, the deaths would be larger than 123 as each DD has about 300 on her and when a ship gets destroyed, it usually blows up with all hands due to a magazine hit or fuel bunker hit.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 17:46
[OOC - See what happens when I go to bed...
Also, post your goddamn losses.]

Due to the escalation of this conflict, Grenval has reached the status of DEFCON 2. This entails a full military invasion. All troops have been pulled home from across the world. At this time all twenty Heavy Infantry Divisions are prepared to invade enemy territory. The Heavy Divisions total 400,000 Infantry. All twenty Heavy Calvary Divisions are also on their way. This entails 20,000 tanks. The remaining 2.6 million Linght Infantry have been placed on alert. Finally, three more naval armaments have been deployed, bringing the total to five.
At this time, Grenval would like to officially announce a full-scale war upon the nation of Nazi Weaponized Virus. Over five hundred war planes, including F-22s, F-35s, and Harrier IIs are making their way towards your naval fleets and homeland. Fifty ICBMs containing conventional warheads have also been launched at all major military. Each ICBM is outfitted in such a way that it is destroyable in air. Surrender now and face complete disarmament, or each missile shall land home.
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 17:51
[OOC - See what happens when I go to bed...
Also, post your goddamn losses.]

Due to the escalation of this conflict, Grenval has reached the status of DEFCON 2. This entails a full military invasion. All troops have been pulled home from across the world. At this time all twenty Heavy Infantry Divisions are prepared to invade enemy territory. The Heavy Divisions total 400,000 Infantry. All twenty Heavy Calvary Divisions are also on their way. This entails 20,000 tanks. The remaining 2.6 million Linght Infantry have been placed on alert. Finally, three more naval armaments have been deployed, bringing the total to five.
At this time, Grenval would like to officially announce a full-scale war upon the nation of Nazi Weaponized Virus. Over five hundred war planes, including F-22s, F-35s, and Harrier IIs are making their way towards your naval fleets and homeland. Fifty ICBMs containing conventional warheads have also been launched at all major military. Each ICBM is outfitted in such a way that it is destroyable in air. Surrender now and face complete disarmament, or each missile shall land home.

OOC: If your going to attack NWV then do it in another thread as we are all busy with hatarian mammalia (WHAT A STUPID NAME.)
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 17:51
OCC: Grenval, shut up or I will nerve gas your entire nation. We wanted to keep nuclear weapons out of this. And if not mistaken, Nazi Weaponized Virus hasnt done anything to warrent this kind of violence. Also RPing takes more skill thin saying "BOOM, I ATTACK YOUR SHIPS, YOUR DEAD!!!"
Grenval
11-08-2004, 17:56
OCC: Grenval, shut up or I will nerve gas your entire nation. We wanted to keep nuclear weapons out of this. And if not mistaken, Nazi Weaponized Virus hasnt done anything to warrent this kind of violence. Also RPing takes more skill thin saying "BOOM, I ATTACK YOUR SHIPS, YOUR DEAD!!!"

If you actually read the posts, NWV is involved here. I am not saying boom, attack, but HM must have lost something. And you can f*ck off anyway.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 18:09
8:00 Hours; Official Presidential Statement; Grenval City, Grenval

Today, war was officially declared upon NWV. We have had tensions with them on three separate issues. But when NWV declared war upon our allies, we were forced to act. At this time fifty ICBMs are headed for all major military installations in NWV territory. While no civilians were targeted, we are considering such an act. In this light, we have issued an ultimatum. NWV shall neither support Hatarian Mamma nor attack Jenniver. If this ultimatum is meet, we will not attack further unless provoked. We ask for the sake of peace that this is meet. We have decided since that disarmament is unnecessary, only that the above is required.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 18:40
A state of ORTHODOX 5 has been declared. All Military units are returning to defensive positions, The Echelon SDI Programme has switched iniatives from Hattarian Mammalia (to ensure no WMD were used) to our own Nation, that being Greece and Cyprus. IRBM's are being prepared to strike upon your nation, they are equipped with VX Nerve Gas. ICBM MRV's are being prepared with a total of 100 400 Kt. Warheads - The CADS (Centralised Air Defence System) has been brought into accordance with the current state of ORTHODOX 5. Biological Weapons via different delivery means are being prepared and Trident II's are preparing to strike upon Grenval's homeland along with an Airbourne Detachment which is operating under the conditions of ORTHODOX 5. This will be complete destruction.

400 F57C's and 400 F23's are currently airbourne. They are patrolling the skies in accordance with the CADS and Naval Gunboats deployed around the Coast. Ground Based Military Units (including Infantry Air Support Groups containing AH-51s and AH-1X's) are being deployed at Coastal Fortifications and City Fortifications. Whittier's puppet must be destroyed - by any means. We thank any other nations for thier support.
IDF
11-08-2004, 18:48
TO NWV AND GRENVAL:
FROM IDF FOREIGN MINISTRY:

We are disturbed by this new war popping up between you. We don't see a good reason for this war. We stand neutral here since both of you are allies. IDF will host a conference for peace between you two. Please just declare a cease fire and stop this fighting, we have a common enemy to fight 1st.

With much concern,
Secretary of STate Ben Tallman
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 18:50
TO NWV AND GRENVAL:
FROM IDF FOREIGN MINISTRY:

We are disturbed by this new war popping up between you. We don't see a good reason for this war. We stand neutral here since both of you are allies. IDF will host a conference for peace between you two. Please just declare a cease fire and stop this fighting, we have a common enemy to fight 1st.

With much concern,
Secretary of STate Ben Tallman

IDF, you are a good ally of NWV and we respect that. But we were told that we would recieve a ICBM attack. If he calls it off, we will participate in the conference. Also, I have left the Whittier Pact - mostly because of Whittier's actions. I think if you took over it would restore some credibility.
IDF
11-08-2004, 19:05
IDF, you are a good ally of NWV and we respect that. But we were told that we would recieve a ICBM attack. If he calls it off, we will participate in the conference. Also, I have left the Whittier Pact - mostly because of Whittier's actions. I think if you took over it would restore some credibility.

I understand, this conference being hosted is to bring you and Grenval to peace, both of you are valued allies and I can't just sit back and watch you fight. Grenval's ICBMs are conventional so they won't do too much damage.

I won't criticize Whittier, but point out I am 2nd in command and Whittier may have to deploy at which point I would be temporary leader until he returned.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 19:09
The ICBM attack has been called off. Intelligence confirms no NWV installations were hit. However, due to the threat of chemical and biologial weapons usage, Grenval will not declare peace until NWV is limited in the amount of chem-bio weaponry he is allowed to store, create, buy, or own. It is public knowledge that Grenval has never used non conventional weapons nor does it hold any chemical or biologial weaponry. The only non conventional mean with which Grenval has to defend itself are a very limited number of nuclear warheads. Therefore, we ask that our request is met, as we are unable to respond to such attacks, except with nuclear war.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 19:13
The ICBM attack has been called off. Intelligence confirms no NWV installations were hit. However, due to the threat of chemical and biologial weapons usage, Grenval will not declare peace until NWV is limited in the amount of chem-bio weaponry he is allowed to store, create, buy, or own. It is public knowledge that Grenval has never used non conventional weapons nor does it hold any chemical or biologial weaponry. The only non conventional mean with which Grenval has to defend itself are a very limited number of nuclear warheads. Therefore, we ask that our request is met, as we are unable to respond to such attacks, except with nuclear war.

Our Nuclear Stockpiles are limited to 250 Warheads in all the branches of service. We have 4 Different Types of Chemical Weapons and 15 IRBM's to back this up - and we have 4 Different Types of Bio Weapons and another 15 IRBM's to act as a delivery system. This is simply a detterant force - if you call off your state of War, then I will push forces down to ORTHODOX 3 and declare War on Hattarian Mammalia.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 19:13
Official Presidential Statement

Due to the fact that NWV has declared its neutrality concerning the Jenniver war, Grenval wishes to applaud NWV's attempts at peace. If all attacks from NWV are called off, Grenval will now be more than willing to negotiate peace, despite earlier statements.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 19:16
Our Nuclear Stockpiles are limited to 250 Warheads in all the branches of service. We have 4 Different Types of Chemical Weapons and 15 IRBM's to back this up - and we have 4 Different Types of Bio Weapons and another 15 IRBM's to act as a delivery system. This is simply a detterant force - if you call off your state of War, then I will push forces down to ORTHODOX 3 and declare War on Hattarian Mammalia.

Official Presidential Statement

Grenval has officially declared peace with NWV, under the mindset that he does in fact support, or at least remain neutral to, our war on Hattarian Mammalia. If in fact this is accomplished, no further negotiations will be necessary.
IDF
11-08-2004, 19:17
I've started a peace thread for you two to attend
IDF
11-08-2004, 19:18
looks like it isn't even needed, phew!
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 19:20
The WNN (Weaponized Nazi Navy) is closing in on HM waters. We are prepared to launch a full salvo (100) of Tactical Tomahawks and TLAMS if HM does not stand down. Further action will be decided upon HM's response.
Grenval
11-08-2004, 19:30
Official Presidential Statement

Today, I ask all nations to come together to bring peace to this matter. Hattarian Mammalia, you are being destroyed. Stand down and I am sure that a fair agreement can be reached. If you agree to commence in peace talks, the invasionary force, that has not even had the time to leave Grenvali borders, will be called off. I also pledge to rebuild your infrastructure and economy, as well as invest in your military, depending upon to which size it is reduced to. While I will not ask for complete disarmament, I will push for a fair amount of military for defensive purposes, as well as always coming to your aid in the event you are attacked. Please consider our offer.

President George
Ruler of Grenval
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 19:57
The Mammalian Navy is Depolying 290 Privateers in to CL and CM waters, with 23 Rebelion Subs to stop all shipping to said Nations.

We are sending a Invasion Fleat to attack Wittier and End any Wittier Pact Naval Ops in the North Pacific.


Invasion Fleat

23 Liberty Class Destroyers
34 Freedom's Fist Class Battleships
42Gina Class Aircraft Carriers.
123Mammalia's Pride Troop Carriers
29 Rebelion Class Subs

we have 23,000 Troops on the Troop Carriers armed with AK-47's, Shotguns, Rocket Launchers. and Swords. Backing them up are 56 Tank Units, with 23 War Spinosaurus, 23 Cannons, and 56,000 Horsemen.
Izistan
11-08-2004, 19:58
The two SSN's are closing on HM waters. They should reach the staging point shortly.
Secret OOC: An invasion fleet is being prepared, and should arrive when everyone else commences the invasion.

OOC: And HM, care to respond to my submarine attacks against your pirate vessels?
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 20:03
The WNN (Weaponized Nazi Navy) is closing in on HM waters. We are prepared to launch a full salvo (100) of Tactical Tomahawks and TLAMS if HM does not stand down. Further action will be decided upon HM's response.


The Mammalian Navy of the Coast of Mammalia is ready to repael and Attack, The Air force is heading for the NWV Navy to bomb it to nothing.
The Anti-Ship Missiles are being launched at your ships.

on Land, 400,000 Soldiers, with Militia and Tribal Forces are ready for battle.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
11-08-2004, 20:15
The Mammalian Navy of the Coast of Mammalia is ready to repael and Attack, The Air force is heading for the NWV Navy to bomb it to nothing.
The Anti-Ship Missiles are being launched at your ships.

on Land, 400,000 Soldiers, with Militia and Tribal Forces are ready for battle.

Radar jamming plans are being launched over probable attack paths of missiles. And ships are pulling out of range of your Crude Cruise Missiles. We in turn are launching 200 TLAMS and 50 Tactical Tomahawks at Military Targets within your Capitol - Designated Targets include Air Bases, Military Installations (Troops), Military Installations (Radar Stations, Anti Aircraft Facilities around your Capitol and in the path of probable bombing runs to your Capitol and The Ministry of Defence.

The Total of 250 Missiles have been launched and we are now at a state of War. Aircraft are preparing to take off and bomb facilities in your Capitol as soon as The word is given that sufficient damage has been done to your AA installations.

30 F-35's and 20 F14A/E's are taking off to intercept your Attacking force of Planes. They will be assisted by Gunboats.
Hataria
11-08-2004, 20:15
The Goverment of South Hataria is asking all Nations to come to the table and talk a Peace to end the Quasi-War.
Izistan
11-08-2004, 20:25
Izistan is unsure if peace talks would end this conflict.
Hataria
11-08-2004, 20:26
The two SSN's are closing on HM waters. They should reach the staging point shortly.
Secret OOC: An invasion fleet is being prepared, and should arrive when everyone else commences the invasion.

OOC: And HM, care to respond to my submarine attacks against your pirate vessels?


I am trying to Stop this war, in short YOU'RE NOT HELPING!
IDF
11-08-2004, 20:41
The Mammalian Navy is Depolying 290 Privateers in to CL and CM waters, with 23 Rebelion Subs to stop all shipping to said Nations.

We are sending a Invasion Fleat to attack Wittier and End any Wittier Pact Naval Ops in the North Pacific.


Invasion Fleat

23 Liberty Class Destroyers
34 Freedom's Fist Class Battleships
42Gina Class Aircraft Carriers.
123Mammalia's Pride Troop Carriers
29 Rebelion Class Subs

we have 23,000 Troops on the Troop Carriers armed with AK-47's, Shotguns, Rocket Launchers. and Swords. Backing them up are 56 Tank Units, with 23 War Spinosaurus, 23 Cannons, and 56,000 Horsemen.


1, post your losses from the latest attacks with my huge dreadnoughts, subs, missile ships, and planes. Your whole fleet should be on the bottom with that fire power.

2, that fleet is a godmod, you don't have 42 carriers
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 20:42
The Invasion Fleat appears off the Coast (If Whittier has a Coast) of Whittier. The Troop Carriers start heading for the beach. The Destroyers and Battle ships head for the Ports and Bombarb them.

The Carriers launch their Planes to Bomb The main Cities, and The Captial. The Troops land and start the attack

OOC: Whittier, You have been Invaded!
IDF
11-08-2004, 20:42
Kyu and Takara have been ordered to turn back, and the invasion plans are dismantled. Blackfish has been ordered to return to Izistani waters. Izistani miltary forces are standing down.

OOC: Happy?
don't do that, he is invading so you have a right to invade
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 20:43
The following units have been deployed off of Hatti to search for any foreign ships not cleared to be in the Gulf

30 E-3 Sentry (AWACS)
15 U-2's
15 F-117A Nighthawk
15 EA-6B Prowler
30 S-3B Viking

OCC: HM, you are a moron, your pretty much ignoring the massive fleet that you would have to sail right past. Also, I am warning you to back off now or I will use VX Gas on your nation.
Izistan
11-08-2004, 20:49
OOC: Okay, ignore the earlier post. I'm going ahead with the invasion, and submarine attacks.
IDF
11-08-2004, 20:51
San Diego Naval Air Station, Whittier

at 0430, long range radar and satelites confirmed an enemy invasion fleet 400 miles off the Whittier coast. IDF send up their 72 B-52J Strato-fortresses armed with 12 CALCM IV anti-ship cruise missiles each, they were in launch range 15 minutes after take off, the pilots 1 by 1 fired all their missiles as 846 of the 1,500 lb warhead missiles flew into their targets. In 30 minutes, the planes landed, and then in an hour were back in the air to do it again after 15 minutes of flight, this would be done for the next 12 hours, putting heavy strain on pilots and aircraft, but it was necessary and easy flight.

248 of IDFs planes in Whittier were F-22C Raptors, the planes took off under stealth and took up stationn 250 miles off the Whittier coast under E-767 guidance. The stealth fighters carried 8 AAMs each and could fire their AALRAMs at 90 miles and did so when planes entered the vicinity.

respond to this attack and the previous ones
Grenval
11-08-2004, 20:54
OCC: HM, you are a moron, your pretty much ignoring the massive fleet that you would have to sail right past. Also, I am warning you to back off now or I will use VX Gas on your nation.

[OOC - See CL, we agree on some things. And do not forget that:
1. Whittier is not involved.
2. The fleet was godmodding from the start.
3. Between CL, CM, IDF, NWV, Me, Parthia, and some others, it was totally destroyed.]

The five naval armaments have been put on full alert and are also searching the waters for any enemy ships. Two have been diverted to Whittier waters with the same orders. The invasion force is ready to go, and should be arriving within ten to fifteen days.
IDF
11-08-2004, 20:59
OOC: I want the losses posted from my Dreadnoughts firing on him. I mean, this is a good test for my answer to the Doujin
Communist Louisiana
11-08-2004, 21:02
OCC: Not only that, he refuses to acknowledge that he would have to fight through a large fleet. Apart of these carrier fleets are S-3B Viking's,P-3 Orion's, and P-7 (LRAACA) which are all anti-submarine aircraft. There are more then 100 and he has some 30 or so submarines. Not only would we see him past any of the Gulf islands, but they would be automatically engaged and destroyed or captured.

He also doesnt realize, that CM and CL are right next to each other. We would both rid the Gulf of Mexico of him in NS hours. It would be nearly impossible for a nation his age to blockade a nation my age. That would be like Cuba trying to blockade the United States. It just aint gonna happen.
IDF
11-08-2004, 21:04
OCC: Not only that, he refuses to acknowledge that he would have to fight through a large fleet. Apart of these carrier fleets are S-3B Viking's,P-3 Orion's, and P-7 (LRAACA) which are all anti-submarine aircraft. There are more then 100 and he has some 30 or so submarines. Not only would we see him past any of the Gulf islands, but they would be automatically engaged and destroyed or captured.

He also doesnt realize, that CM and CL are right next to each other. We would both rid the Gulf of Mexico of him in NS hours. It would be nearly impossible for a nation his age to blockade a nation my age. That would be like Cuba trying to blockade the United States. It just aint gonna happen.

he can't blockade me as he would end up blockading the Suez Canal which would result in every nation on Earth attacking him
Izistan
11-08-2004, 21:06
OOC: Where exactly is HM located?
IDF
11-08-2004, 21:08
OOC: Where exactly is HM located?
North Pacific
Izistan
11-08-2004, 21:11
OOC: Oops, I though he was located in the Indian Ocean. Consider my forces heading there...
IDF
11-08-2004, 21:15
OOC: Oops, I though he was located in the Indian Ocean. Consider my forces heading there...
OOC: My ships attacked him in the Indian Ocean because his fleet going to IDF was there
Izistan
11-08-2004, 21:23
OOC: I'll have a few of my Porpoise IV's patrol my territory, just in case.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 22:38
Hatarian Mammalia is now declareing the Quasi-War Over

In Short WE GIVE UP!

here are our Peace Terms,.

(1) All enemy Forces are to leave Mammalian Waters now!

(2) The Blockades by both Parties are to end.

(3) The Allies will Pay $4,000,000 to Hatarian Mammalia for the next 4 Years and Hatarian Mammalia will pay $10,000,000 for the next years.

(4) All Fleats from said Nations, Priavteer and Naval, are to leave Said Nations Waters

And

(5) The IDF, Whittier, or and of The Allies against Mammalia will Help The Asakura Tribe in the Hatarian Civil War.

Do you Guys except?
Whittier-
11-08-2004, 22:42
No it does not. Only in the most militiristic terms does it dictate an act of War - Any attack on HM will result in a response from NWV. Let me make that doubly clear - Any attack, be it sinking of his fleet e.t.c, will result in a full Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Response from NWV.
In accordance with international law it does as he has no right to stop any ship from entering or leaving IDF.
Hatarian Mammalia
11-08-2004, 22:44
390 Ships (Naval and Privateer)Destroyed
1,908 Sailors Killed
34 Planes Shot Down.

and That is it
Whittier-
11-08-2004, 22:48
From: The Office of The President of Nazi Weaponized Virus
To: All
Another day, another false pretext for War. This situation can be resolved without conflict yet people do not take that route. They simply want to try out thier new F-35's or ICBM's on an unsuspecting nation. Granted, what he did/is doing is totally provokative, and as an ally of IDF I deplore it. But NWV will NOT allow countries to be invaded under such pathetic pretenses. As I said before, Every wing of our Armed Forces that falls under Nuclear Doctrine is now designating targets or preparing for defense - Chemical, Biological and Nuclear Warheads of up to 600 Kt. are being primed for launch as are Chem/Bio Shells, IRBMs, Nuclear SLBM's and Plane bourne Explosives.

NWV has finds it sickening that again, The Entire Whittier Pact has decided to force War upon a new Nation. We find it sickening that in our attempts to defend this nation diplomatically we have recieved verbal threats from Communist Lousiniana - though not taken seriously, these threats signify and epitomise exactly what is expected, unwarranted aggresion.

We have no problem with going down under such terrible force. But I guarantee the warmongers of the World. I will take you down with me.

President Hitler II
The Whittier Pact is not the one engaging in an act of war. As soon as a single Hattarian warship seizes or boards an allied or neutral ship, it will be blown out of the waters by the Whittier navy.
We are attempting a diplomatic resolution. But diplomacy is not the same as placation, which is what you are proposing.
Chamberlain tried to do the same with Hitler during WWII. And that of appeasment failed miserably.
Whittier-
11-08-2004, 22:52
Hatarian Mammalia will Continute to have Privateers in IDF, Wittier, and Parthian Waters to inforce the Embargo
Whittier warships have just sunk 3 pirate ships. The W navy is amazed that pirates actually exist in this day and age. The WHittier Intelligence Agency has determined the pirates are funded by Hatarian Mammalia.

Communique to Hattarian Mammalia:
Cease your support of pirates or we will be forced to take more direct action against your homeland.
Hataria
11-08-2004, 22:54
The War is Over Guys, Mammalia Gave up.
Whittier-
11-08-2004, 23:04
The Invasion Fleat appears off the Coast (If Whittier has a Coast) of Whittier. The Troop Carriers start heading for the beach. The Destroyers and Battle ships head for the Ports and Bombarb them.

The Carriers launch their Planes to Bomb The main Cities, and The Captial. The Troops land and start the attack

OOC: Whittier, You have been Invaded!
OOC: THere is no way you could even hope to land troops in my land as all of your transports would have been blasted into oblivion.
Whittier-
11-08-2004, 23:06
Hatarian Mammalia is now declareing the Quasi-War Over

In Short WE GIVE UP!

here are our Peace Terms,.

(1) All enemy Forces are to leave Mammalian Waters now!

(2) The Blockades by both Parties are to end.

(3) The Allies will Pay $4,000,000 to Hatarian Mammalia for the next 4 Years and Hatarian Mammalia will pay $10,000,000 for the next years.

(4) All Fleats from said Nations, Priavteer and Naval, are to leave Said Nations Waters

And

(5) The IDF, Whittier, or and of The Allies against Mammalia will Help The Asakura Tribe in the Hatarian Civil War.

Do you Guys except?

Whittier does not interfere in other nations internal affairs unless our own interests are directly affected.
Mental lands
11-08-2004, 23:07
Hatarian Mammalia is now declareing the Quasi-War Over

In Short WE GIVE UP!

here are our Peace Terms,.

(1) All enemy Forces are to leave Mammalian Waters now!

(2) The Blockades by both Parties are to end.

(3) The Allies will Pay $4,000,000 to Hatarian Mammalia for the next 4 Years and Hatarian Mammalia will pay $10,000,000 for the next years.

(4) All Fleats from said Nations, Priavteer and Naval, are to leave Said Nations Waters

And

(5) The IDF, Whittier, or and of The Allies against Mammalia will Help The Asakura Tribe in the Hatarian Civil War.

Do you Guys except?

You are in no position to make demands. Here are my "Peace Terms"

1) Hatarian Mammalia is to leave and never bother any member of the Whittier pact ever again under penalty of complete annihilation.
IDF
11-08-2004, 23:34
You are in no position to make demands. Here are my "Peace Terms"

1) Hatarian Mammalia is to leave and never bother any member of the Whittier pact ever again under penalty of complete annihilation.
I'd accept Mental Land's peace terms
Unum Veritas
12-08-2004, 00:20
OOC: I don't think I've ever seen such a display of ignorance regarding naval warfare and warfare in general. I've hardly seen even the mention of a support ship (several of which are necessary to conduct ANY naval military operation). All of your ships pretty much magically appear wherever you want them to. Hataria Mammalia, you never should have started something this dumb, much less continued it. Your 300 million or so population would be hard pressed to put up a navy that could take IDF alone, much less all the other nations that jumped in. After reading your pirate attacks, I had planned on jumping in on IDF's side as a result of my OMP ties (of which I'm sure IDF is tired of hearing about ;) ), but this poor excuse for an RP would just be a waste of time. Mammalia, please read the stickies (and do some research regarding naval warfare) before starting a war.

Plus I just couldn't take all the 2004 nations bragging about their ability to "annihilate" other 2004 nations. I mean, come on, only a few 2004 countries have even reached 1 billion.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
12-08-2004, 01:22
Plus I just couldn't take all the 2004 nations bragging about their ability to "annihilate" other 2004 nations. I mean, come on, only a few 2004 countries have even reached 1 billion.

OOC: Could India defeat America in a War - no it couldn't. My defense budget is over a trillion, and no matter how big your populace is, a budget of that kind can field an impressive Army, Navy and Airforce. Its not all about population - this attitude that 'I am from July and you are from August hence I win any battle we commence in' is moronic. Its also about how good an RP'er you are.

IC: Only 1 Carrier Groups is remaining In Hatterian Mammalian Waters. The rest of the 1st Fleet is pulling back to Dock to be restocked. And I urge other nations to do the same and strike a peace deal with HM, his military infrastructure and Navy have been crippled - and I see this as a drastic improvement over the complete anhilliation of Hattaria.
IDF
12-08-2004, 01:35
OOC: I don't think I've ever seen such a display of ignorance regarding naval warfare and warfare in general. I've hardly seen even the mention of a support ship (several of which are necessary to conduct ANY naval military operation). All of your ships pretty much magically appear wherever you want them to. Hataria Mammalia, you never should have started something this dumb, much less continued it. Your 300 million or so population would be hard pressed to put up a navy that could take IDF alone, much less all the other nations that jumped in. After reading your pirate attacks, I had planned on jumping in on IDF's side as a result of my OMP ties (of which I'm sure IDF is tired of hearing about ;) ), but this poor excuse for an RP would just be a waste of time. Mammalia, please read the stickies (and do some research regarding naval warfare) before starting a war.

Plus I just couldn't take all the 2004 nations bragging about their ability to "annihilate" other 2004 nations. I mean, come on, only a few 2004 countries have even reached 1 billion.


OOC: I understand Unum, I actually like how you RP and how your shipyards are filled with realistic ships and not monstrosities. I tried to challenge Doujin's battle islands as not modern tech and asked for how it could be done with modern technology and he freaks saying I'm ignorant and a bad RPer who godmods while avoiding the question. I know you made something similar, but on a much smaller and realistic scale instead of the Manhattan sized one.
Hatarian Mammalia
12-08-2004, 02:38
OOC: Could India defeat America in a War - no it couldn't. My defense budget is over a trillion, and no matter how big your populace is, a budget of that kind can field an impressive Army, Navy and Airforce. Its not all about population - this attitude that 'I am from July and you are from August hence I win any battle we commence in' is moronic. Its also about how good an RP'er you are.

IC: Only 1 Carrier Groups is remaining In Hatterian Mammalian Waters. The rest of the 1st Fleet is pulling back to Dock to be restocked. And I urge other nations to do the same and strike a peace deal with HM, his military infrastructure and Navy have been crippled - and I see this as a drastic improvement over the complete anhilliation of Hattaria.

In my Peace Trems, ALL ships are to leave the others Waters, Even yours
Nazi Weaponized Virus
12-08-2004, 02:40
In my Peace Trems, ALL ships are to leave the others Waters, Even yours

Ok, The Carrier Group is pulling back to International Waters.
Izistan
12-08-2004, 02:56
The submarines have been ordered to head back to Izistani waters.
Hatarian Mammalia
12-08-2004, 02:56
Ok, The Carrier Group is pulling back to International Waters.

The Embargo is lifted off all nation, but NWV.
Grenval
12-08-2004, 03:41
Grenval will accept the below terms of peace:

1. All naval combat and support ships will return to international waters. All government sponsored privateers will return to international waters.
2. No combat, support, or privateer ship(s) are to interfere in the free trade of another region.
3. Hatarian Mammalia will pay each of the allies one billion UDS for five years.
5. At the will of said nation, that nation shall aid in the rebuilding of Hatarian Mammalia with whatever said nation feels is appropriate.
6. Hatarian Mammalia's Navy shall be reduced to the following:
3 Nimitz Class Carriers
15 Any Class Cruisers
25 Any Class Destroyers
10 Non-Trident Any Class Submarines
Unlimited Support Ships
AND nothing else
7. Hatarian Mammalia shall halt all aid to pirate and terrorist organizations, groups, rebels, and persons.
8. Hatarian Mammalia shall reduce its non conventional arsenal to the following:
25 Nuclear Warheads
AND nothing else
9. Non conventional shall be defined as any stocking, crate, barrel, or warhead containing chemical, biological, nuclear, or thus developed by said nation post such peace treaty which wartime destructive capability is seen to be non conventional be said nations giving or have given support to Hatarian Mammalia.

END

Grenval shall give aid to Hatarian Mammalia in the form of nine hundred and ninety-nine million USD per year for three years.
Hatarian Mammalia
12-08-2004, 03:49
Grenval will accept the below terms of peace:

1. All naval combat and support ships will return to international waters. All government sponsored privateers will return to international waters.
2. No combat, support, or privateer ship(s) are to interfere in the free trade of another region.
3. Hatarian Mammalia will pay each of the allies one billion UDS for five years.
5. At the will of said nation, that nation shall aid in the rebuilding of Hatarian Mammalia with whatever said nation feels is appropriate.
6. Hatarian Mammalia's Navy shall be reduced to the following:
3 Nimitz Class Carriers
15 Any Class Cruisers
25 Any Class Destroyers
10 Non-Trident Any Class Submarines
Unlimited Support Ships
AND nothing else
7. Hatarian Mammalia shall halt all aid to pirate and terrorist organizations, groups, rebels, and persons.
8. Hatarian Mammalia shall reduce its non conventional arsenal to the following:
25 Nuclear Warheads
AND nothing else
9. Non conventional shall be defined as any stocking, crate, barrel, or warhead containing chemical, biological, nuclear, or thus developed by said nation post such peace treaty which wartime destructive capability is seen to be non conventional be said nations giving or have given support to Hatarian Mammalia.

END

Grenval shall give aid to Hatarian Mammalia in the form of nine hundred and ninety-nine million USD per year for three years.

Hatarian Mammalia will NOT accept Grenval Trems, and Mammalia wasn't Bombed THAT Bad, we are all ready rebuilding.
Communist Louisiana
12-08-2004, 04:28
We also agree to the terms mentioned by Grenval. We see how Hatarian Mammalia conducts itself, and we fear that he may do something he will be sorry for.
Hatarian Mammalia
12-08-2004, 14:49
With The Short, But Bloody Quasi-War Over, Hatarian Mammalia turns back to the Hatarian Civil War it is Fighting in.

The Nation wasn't destroyed like in The Hataro-Whittier War, a few Buildings were Bombed, 90 Civilians died in the Bombings, But with luck, no WMDs were used in the War.

The Navy was the Hardst hit, over 390 Ships, Both Privateer and Naval were Sunk, and over 1,000 Sailors Died in the Fighting.

With the rebuilding of The Fleat, Houses, and the Shipyards intact, The Nation of Hatarian Mammalia is still the nation it is.....Free.
The Parthians
12-08-2004, 19:44
We accept Grenval's terms. If Hattaria Mamalia (OOC: What an awful name) does not accept them we will begin an invasion and utterly destroy your nation.
Hatarian Mammalia
12-08-2004, 19:53
We accept Grenval's terms. If Hattaria Mamalia (OOC: What an awful name) does not accept them we will begin an invasion and utterly destroy your nation.


THE WAR IS OVER! no one won or lost, It is over!
Canan
12-08-2004, 20:56
Hataria, I thought you learned how to RP atleast half decently.

Anyway, your tactics were horrible, as well as your godmodding. Also someone did lose, it was you. You lost because you gave up, therefore yor making peace terms is a bit proposterous(sp?). With this in mind I am letting you and your other nation, Hataria, know that I am ignoring both your nations. Also, stop TGing me. I dont care about your stupid civil war. I tried to let your horribly godmoddish numbers go, but you never stop. Its always another 200,000 rebels join the 1,000,000 rebels already fighting. They have 200,000 cannons, and 50,000 dinosaurs and elephants. you are an idiot therefore I bid thee ado.
The Parthians
12-08-2004, 23:59
THE WAR IS OVER! no one won or lost, It is over!

No, the war is still on, the peace terms of yours are not satisfactory.
Hatarian Mammalia
13-08-2004, 02:59
It is over, No one lost or Won, no Invasions, nothing IT IS OVER FOR GOOD!
IDF
13-08-2004, 03:28
It is over, No one lost or Won, no Invasions, nothing IT IS OVER FOR GOOD!
The war is not over, we will continue it
Hatarian Mammalia
13-08-2004, 03:32
The war is not over, we will continue it

We are now holding Peace Talks
The Parthians
13-08-2004, 03:36
Accept Grenval's terms or face invasion!
Whittier-
13-08-2004, 19:46
OOC: I understand Unum, I actually like how you RP and how your shipyards are filled with realistic ships and not monstrosities. I tried to challenge Doujin's battle islands as not modern tech and asked for how it could be done with modern technology and he freaks saying I'm ignorant and a bad RPer who godmods while avoiding the question. I know you made something similar, but on a much smaller and realistic scale instead of the Manhattan sized one.
They are modern tech now. The navy is preparing to test one. They are just waiting for a survey of the world's oceans to be completed cause they are waiting to see how often rogue waves occur and how big such waves are on average.
Sharina
13-08-2004, 20:09
The Republic of Sharina declares its support for IDF, and we shall help the people of the IDF in their hour of need.

How may the people of Sharina be of assistance?

President Rand Veristek
Praetonia
13-08-2004, 20:12
Why didn't you all just ignore this, HM doesnt have anywhere NEAR that amount of ships.
IDF
13-08-2004, 20:17
Why didn't you all just ignore this, HM doesnt have anywhere NEAR that amount of ships.
I know, but we had to teach him a lesson Praetonia
Unum Veritas
13-08-2004, 21:43
OOC: Could India defeat America in a War - no it couldn't.

If India (or China for that matter) had a military budget and an economy comparable to its size then America would stand no chance. Most larger nations on NS (keep in mind that I said "most") do have multi-trillion dollar military budgets (Unum Veritas' alone is around $9 trillion, excluding the budgets of colonies) and so smaller nations don't stand a chance. They have a smaller population and smaller funding. Besides, you don't see the US invading China or India; primarily because populations that size cannot be defeated by an armed force that is a fraction of its size. Even if you are one of the more advanced '04 nations that does have a lot of military funding (which, at most, is probably a few trillion) you still do not stand a chance againt the early/mid '03 countries with nearly $10 trillion military budgets. You might win some battles and, if you're a good/creative RPer, be able to put a serious dent in their forces, but the odds of you winning an all-out war are very slim. Unless of course you resort to WMD's right off the bat, in which case you will probably be ignored for your lack of any semblance of RPing skill.

IDF, perhaps (since the OMP thing evidently never went through and they're now preoccupied with some pirate nation) we can interact more. Maybe an alliance or joint training or something.
Sharina
13-08-2004, 21:49
OOC:

I would be happy to participate in naval training with IDF and Unum Veritas. My nation's navy is newly developed and sure could use practice to train them in Naval Warfare.

After all, I'd love to practice naval RP'ing.