NationStates Jolt Archive


An Army of a Nation

Jessicia
09-08-2004, 09:15
Greetings,

The Federation of Jessicia is seeking advice from other nations on a military matter.

There is an ancient religious group which have lived in our lands for longer than we know of. Even through colinization the original traditions of the native people have remained and even gained new followers from other races. Grown from the once small community of people very much, it is now a religious network of families and individuals- clans and tribes- which amounts to something around a million of individuals in total.

Their traditions include an inclination to the goal of physical and spiritual perfection (although the line between those two things are possibly non-existant for them) as well as- and part of the reason for this messege to you all- a great love and concern of all Jessicians which equals the dedication to the protection of this land and its people. They will do what is necessary to protect Jessicia. They are also a battle-loving warrior people.

They have not shown the coruption with money as many have because of their dedication to the whole and not greed. Their dedication to religious tradition is astounding. Rarely does any of their people not agree with their teachings and leave them.

We have granted them land in our nation in recognition of their ancient land-claims, to govern as they please, but their population keeps growing at an alarming rate.

As a solution to this problem a representative from them has suggested a plan which we believe has potential. Not only do they want a new territory to colonize outside of our Federation but they would like to dedicate this land to the purpose of being a military defence force for Jessicia.

Obviously the potential for this is amazing. A whole other nation, full of warriors, constantly growing and dedicated to defending us. This is their land as much of ours and they would like the opportunity to take their beliefs to the fullest.

They would have an economy of their own (many of their people are also of various worker clans and such) and ofcourse we would contribute as well as keep our original military force standing.

Our Prime Minister Seth McCain has ordered me to request of the nations of the universe to advise us on the pros and cons of such an idea (using a nationstates account to create it etc.) and how this could work. Yes we would have a huge army but rest assured that Jessicia rarely gets involved with military action unless it is in defense so you are all safe; we do not like forecefully manipulating others for our goals.

Thank you.

The Federation of Jessicia, Minister of Defense Fatima Nasir.
Varessa
09-08-2004, 10:37
The idea has merit, but it also has risks. While the potential benefits are huge and obvious, the drawbacks stand to be cataclysmic. If ever the leadership of this miltary pseudo-state were to decide that it didn't like the way things were going in the country it was sworn to protect, the new state may determine that it has a duty to intervene...

What you effectively doing is putting your own military outside the direct control of the state... a dangerous proposition.

Alex Shaw
Foreign Minister
Varessan Commonwealth
Jessicia
09-08-2004, 16:29
The idea has merit, but it also has risks. While the potential benefits are huge and obvious, the drawbacks stand to be cataclysmic. If ever the leadership of this miltary pseudo-state were to decide that it didn't like the way things were going in the country it was sworn to protect, the new state may determine that it has a duty to intervene...

What you effectively doing is putting your own military outside the direct control of the state... a dangerous proposition.

Alex Shaw
Foreign Minister
Varessan Commonwealth

The Federation of Jessicia thanks you for your insights.

Minister of Defense, Fatima Nasir.
Slimestoria
09-08-2004, 16:47
If you were to go along with this, you would have to keep close track of who their leaders are and what opinions they hold.
Jessicia
10-08-2004, 10:26
If you were to go along with this, you would have to keep close track of who their leaders are and what opinions they hold.

The Federation of Jessicia thanks you for your input.

-Minister of Defense Fatima Nasir
The Island of Rose
10-08-2004, 10:35
You're basically asking for Martial Law. If the Military were to revolt, you'd have no defense force,other then your small army, since they. I recommend you have a citizen's army, or a draft. Either that or buy supplies and make tactics. I recommend you stick to tactical strikes. The Island of Rose is always ready to help up and coming nations, and destroy annoying nations.
-Vice President Orcha Yultanov of the Island of Rose

OOC: Prez is on vacation if you're wondering. Oh and Ih ope that made sense
The Island of Rose
10-08-2004, 10:36
You're basically asking for Martial Law. If the Military were to revolt, you'd have no defense force,other then your small army, but it wouldn't stand. I recommend you have a citizen's army, or a draft. Either that or buy supplies and make tactics. I recommend you stick to tactical strikes. The Island of Rose is always ready to help up and coming nations, and destroy annoying nations.
-Vice President Orcha Yultanov of the Island of Rose

OOC: Prez is on vacation if you're wondering. Oh and Ih ope that made sense
Rubberduckistan
10-08-2004, 12:13
Old Rubberduckistani says goes "He who must rely on others in his defense, is their (defenders) slave." Idea might sound good, but if someone would want to invade, they´d start corrupting the defenders. And if succesful, then what would you do?
Lessr Tsurani
10-08-2004, 12:14
The Emporer has an Idea, allow them to do this, BUT also train your own army. The idea is one that happened a while back, allow them this oppertunity, but build your own army as well, and make sure you can eliminate a threat from them if nessersary. We find with The Religions that they need a good leader to keep the going, so make sure that all the good leaders are simpathetic to your cause.

The Emporer of Lessr Tsurani, lord of the world Imperia.
Jessicia
11-08-2004, 08:00
The Federation of Jessicia thanks Rubberduckistan, Vice President Orcha Yultanov of the Island of Rose and The Emporer of Lessr Tsurani, lord of the world Imperia.

-Minister of Defense Fatima Nasir.
Roycelandia
11-08-2004, 09:49
After our experience with the Roycelandian Overseas Company in the late 18th century, Roycelandia is of the firm opinion that Armies outside the State are an inherently bad thing and should be avoided by all right-thinking nations.
Jessicia
14-08-2004, 14:01
After our experience with the Roycelandian Overseas Company in the late 18th century, Roycelandia is of the firm opinion that Armies outside the State are an inherently bad thing and should be avoided by all right-thinking nations.

The Federation of Jessicia thanks you for your input.

Minister of Defense Fatima Nasir.
Rubberduckistan
14-08-2004, 15:36
USSR suggests that you also develop strong Non-Comissioned Officer corps, as the skilled squad leaders are the backbone of the efficient army. :)
Dumpsterdam
14-08-2004, 15:42
As a man close to my own military, I would say "no" but then again it is your own decision as a sovereign state to make.

Commander Rift, Lord of Dumpsterdam.
Akaton
14-08-2004, 17:56
In Akaton, we have an unusual situation similar to your own. The rulers of our nation are a minority group (they're elves) that has no chance of directly defeating an uprising of the human military. However, revolution is avoided by having a number of under cover assassins in the military. If any of the military leaders betray the government, they are quickly executed by these operatives. This could be a good strategy to use in your nation.

Lord Draconis,
Emperor of Akaton