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New Empire Class Supercarrier (V4)

New Empire
08-08-2004, 17:56
New Empire Class SuperCarrier
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/545/supcar.gif

Design
The New Empire class supercarrier, of Deep Angel Shipyards, is a catamaran design, with two large hulls. The outer hulls are about 1,200 feet long, and together are 420 feet wide. They have two layers for aircraft storage and deployment, the flight deck, and the hangar deck. The flight deck has 8 EM catapults, and 8 elevators. The hangar deck has two large doors extending to a lower flight deck that is often used for subfighter deployment with it's large cranes. The inner section of the belowdecks can be used for subfighter operations as well. The port hull is home to a stealthy designed 'island' superstructure. In front of and behind it are the VLS tubes and other weapons. The ship, in total, can use up to 180 combat aircraft. It weighs over 300,400 tons. In addition to a double hull, reinforced keel, and a reinforced titanium frame, 100-225mm of steel is laid, depending on the area of the ship. It has an array of modern damage control systems (NBC, pressure control, many bulkheads, so on, so forth), and additional armor to important systems or facilities throughout the vessel.

Powerplant & Propulsion
Each hull is home to two Guenther PB5C Pebble Bed Reactors, rated at 200 MW each. These power 12 Deep Angel Shipyards 'Neptune' MHD assisted Waterjets, six on each hull. In addition, there are 2 smaller MHDWJ systems forward for enhanced turning. The maximum speed of the New Empire is about 35 knots in good water conditions.

Armarment
While the primary weapon of the carrier is it's air wing, the New Empire carries quite a lot of weapons. Given the 'four layered battlefield' the UCSNE operates in (Subsurface, Surface, Atmosphere, Orbit), the New Empire can handle threats from any of those layers.


48 Tube VLS
Forward of the 'island' is a 20 tube Vertical Launch System. The VLS is for engaging very long range threats, such as ballistic missiles and satellites. However, on occasion, long range multirole weapons like the 'Wolverine' are mounted. The usual loadout is 24 'Icarus' Exoatmospheric interceptors, 24 RIM-95D Pheonix Slayer Long Range SAMs (2 in each tube, 12 tubes), and 12 Wolverine Cruise Missiles.

Defensive Surface to Air Missile System
http://www.artemisgames.com/robotech/images/sdf1_missile_battery.jpg
5 MkXXVI 'Pepperbox' DSAMS are mounted on each side of the ship. These were used to replace the RAM System used before the first refit, when they were replaced and fired SAM versions of the AIM-108 Coffin Nail missiles. Now, however, they have been changed to launch the new Spearhawk missiles. Each MkXXVI has 10 missiles, with 30 more in internal magazines.

ASROC

4 MkXXIII ASROC systems are mounted on the vessel, one on each 'corner'. Each unit has 3 tubes, 660mm in diameter. Instead of making systems with multiple tube diameters, the MkXXIII ASROC solved this problem when it was introduced on the 'Honor' class frigate. A variety of torpedo can be launched, even the new long range DSEMP torpedo that is in service with the Poseidon. Smaller torpedos are mounted inside sabots for deployment. Usually, 56 torpedo are carried.

Metal Storm CIWS

8 MkV MSCIWS (Missy-Whiz, as the crews call it) are mounted on the carrier, one on each of bow, four on the port and starboard, two aft). Replacing the 20mm AARPG systems, the MCIWS consits of Metalstorm 30mm 36 Barrel guns. The weapons will be capable of variable ROF, from 60 RPM to a theoretical 1 Million (Unlikely to be used, as the reloading system cannot keep up with it, nor would the ships' supply.) RPM. The has two sections of 18 barrels, each with their own mix of rounds. For example, HE Fragmenting rounds for destroying missiles, and KE Armor piercers for dealing with aircraft.

ASHUM

Two MkIX Adaptable High-Speed Undersea Munitions (AHSUM) guns are mounted on each hull. The streamlined turret coverings can extend to reveal a 30mm Supercavitating KinetiKill round firing automatic gun. The sonar-directed and LIDAR directed AHSUM system is hoped to be the underwater equivalent of the U.S. Navy's Phalanx weapons system, destroying incoming torpedo, especially 'straight shooter' SuCav weapons like the Shkval.

HELLADS

There are 5 HELLADS (High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System) on the vessel, one on each bow, two on port and starboard, and one aft. The HELLADS, adapted from the much smaller weapons used on heavy fighters, is a 2 MW system that draws power from the vessel's reactors. The laser has a 150 mile range in good weather conditions, and usually works off of IR or radar guidance. HELLADS is usually used as an anti missile system, and the mounting of the weapon is designed so that they can engage 'sea skimmer' missiles.


Sensors, systems and Countermeasures

The New Empire has access to a wide variety of sensor systems. A SAN/SPS-56E Air Search Radar with a 300 mile range is used for the detection of enemy aircraft, and has Taiwanese NPI programming. SAN/SPS-70 Long Range Surveillance Radar, with a 500 mile range, is used for early target detection and engagement. A L/ALS-18 LIDAR system is mounted, with a 150 mile range. In addition, the MCIWS and LIDAR systems have access to their own modified SAPG-91 Radar systems, the way the Phalanx has it's own radar.

SAN/SQS-68 Sonar integrated with a MkXIII ASW Identification and Integration computer for ASW capability. There are four L/SQS-13 Naval LIDAR systems mounted on the underside of the New Empire to work with the ASHUM guns.

A SAN/WLR-3 provdies a 50% efficiency/range increase over the old American AN/WLR-1 in Over the Horizon Cued Detection, Classification, and Targeting.

A MkXXXIX Combat Intelligence/NAI has been installed on the ship. The MkXXXIX is a multi computer system to ensure it's functioning during combat. With the integration of the SSDS, Fire Control, Sensors, and Damage Control, as well as powerplant, propulsion, and aircraft operations, the XXXIX can run almost every aspect of the ship should someone performing those jobs be incapacitated. The XXXIX can integrate with the rest of the fleet's XXXIX via WARNET. However, the ship must be authorized at certain levels before controlling things like propulsion, powerplant shutdowns/startups, or offensive weapons use.

A SAN/SLQ-45 EW System is used, to provide EA/ES jamming against radars (Usually terminal guidance). This is integrated with a Pallas Athena system for RCS reduction, and even greater jamming capability (See Pallas Athena Writeup for more). The system also has access to over a dozen decoy launchers for various spectrums of sensors.

The MkX Dinosyus 'Praire/Masker' is used for dealing with torpedo and 'jamming' sonar, along with several 'Cicida' decoy pods.
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OOC: This is mainly a comment/criticism thread, but if I get enough response and it's not a godmod, I may sell it.
New Empire
08-08-2004, 20:44
OOC: No problems worth a mention?

BUMP...
Turkmeny
08-08-2004, 20:47
It looks good to me, but "8 EM catapults" on the flight deck? What does EM stand for?
Slimestoria
08-08-2004, 20:48
How much would one of these or the production rights for it cost?
New Empire
08-08-2004, 20:50
Electromagnetic. Faster than steam catapults. The US wants them on CVN-77/CVX-78

We don't do production rights for these farther than you can get contracted to have one built at your nation, but the cost of these is about 7.5 Billion USD.
Slimestoria
08-08-2004, 20:53
I will buy two of them then. $15,000,000,000 will be wired to you upon confirmation of this order.
Turkmeny
08-08-2004, 20:54
Ah, for some reason I didn't make the connection in my head between EM and electromagnetic. How silly of me. Looks good, mate.
Slimestoria
08-08-2004, 22:12
bump
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 22:14
Meh. My Trotsky is better...=/
Truitt
08-08-2004, 22:38
Nice work, although I like my Liberator better.

Where'd yeh get those pics, good ones.
New Empire
08-08-2004, 22:43
Before I sell, what are your feelings on:
AMF
APTO
Doujin
The Whittier Pact

The Trotsky was the two nimitzes strapped together and enlarged, right?
Well, for one thing, it's massively expensive, even in proportion from the capacity. (12 Nimitz would be 48 billion, and have what, 960 aircraft?)

I could go on and on, like your choice of Phalanx, how the Pepperbox RIM-112 Sea Spearhawk owns Sea Sparrow, the fact that my vessel has a somewhat stealthy design, but I'll shut up now.

Any specific reasons why so I can improve the thing?

Truitt:
I believe the Pepperbox pic is from a writeup on a carrier from the old TV series Macross...

The carrier pic was a photoshop job on a space carrier type thing from some other Macross series.
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 22:51
Well, no, the Trotsky is actually aging. I brought it over from the old forums when things were focused more on making new tanks and helos, now that the new focus is naval weaponry, I'm going to make a new carrier.

But..my Trotsky..looks better..
New Empire
08-08-2004, 22:55
Bah, the New Empire is more futuristicky and stealthy... And it's more uhm, not asymetric... Than yours. Yeah.

AND IT H45 L4Z0r B33ms!!!!
Slimestoria
08-08-2004, 22:58
Before I sell, what are your feelings on:
AMF
APTO
Doujin
The Whittier Pact

Not sure what the first two mean. Doujin's ships seem really powerful and advanced, though way too expensive for me. I've heard of the Whittier Pact, but what does it state?
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 23:00
Bah, the New Empire is more futuristicky and stealthy... And it's more uhm, not asymetric... Than yours. Yeah.

AND IT H45 L4Z0r B33ms!!!!

Mine has cupholders and Onstar! BOOYA
New Empire
08-08-2004, 23:01
It's an alliance which I ah, semi-ignore, and has many members who I and some of the aforementioned nations/alliances have had a war with recently.

First two are Automagfreek and the Allied Powers Treaty Orginization (Alliance thingy I'm in, Automagfreek is a nation in there who got in a fairly prolific, but ultimately one sided war with Allanea, and now has some nations whining about him)
New Empire
08-08-2004, 23:03
Mine has cupholders and Onstar! BOOYA

Yeah, well, I have stealth cupholders. And they're laser guided.

And mine doesn't need OnStar, because it's got one of them newfangled cuhm-peuw-ter networks.
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 23:18
....Mine has stickers on the side...
The Freethinkers
08-08-2004, 23:25
Looks good, but two things:

1)Displacement is about two/thirds what it should. It has the rough dimensions of two nimitz's, but the extra armour, equipment and structural support is gonna be considerable in terms of extra weight.

2) Way, way too cheap. $7.5 billion would get you an upgraded Nimitz, this is going to be $12-15 billion at least, especially with all the advanced systems.

Other than that, nice job. Looks like a carrier well suited to the NS environment, though, next time, less stealth, more weaponry. Good work. :)
Slimestoria
08-08-2004, 23:26
So, will I be able to buy two of them?
New Empire
08-08-2004, 23:35
I knew displacement was off... 300,400 tons then.

I'll stick her at 14 Billion then.

More weapons? Hmm... Well, I considered that, but considering that I've got 36 Anti-Ballistic Missile/Satellite interceptors and Cruise missiles, 424 SAMs, as well as Metal Storm guns, four 2MW lasers, and ASROC, I wasn't really sure what else I'd stick on her.

Slimestoria, your nation now has a contract for two New Empire Class Supercarriers to be built in the ports of your choice. The raw materials and systems will be ordered with that money and shipped there, where they will be assembled (My ports are kind of busy now, have a new class of sub being built)
New Empire
08-08-2004, 23:51
Oh, and I forgot to mention this doesn't ship with missiles or torpedo. You choose what to load with it (Can't sell RIM-112 Sea Spearhawk, as it's Kotterdams, and since the VLS cell can use basically any VLS fired missile...)
New Empire
09-08-2004, 02:06
Bump for more comments...
Lunatic Retard Robots
09-08-2004, 02:20
Oh yeah?

Well, my Rubber Soul carrier will scare the pants off your so-called supercarriers!

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/nk1143kuzn2.jpg

l=34l2 l\/l3!

Who cares if its just a...renamed...Kuznetzov.

Yeah.

But as for lasers, do you think I would be able to fit a CIWS system on a missile boat? We're talking 10-15km range, two emitters, for defeating newer fast ASMs.
New Empire
09-08-2004, 02:28
A Laser CIWS system?

Well, maybe. A low end (Fighter system) in the 150-500kw range might work, maybe 1 or two of those.
Lunatic Retard Robots
09-08-2004, 04:10
A Laser CIWS system?

Well, maybe. A low end (Fighter system) in the 150-500kw range might work, maybe 1 or two of those.

What, like an IR missile blinder except with a much higher power output?

I don't quite follow what fighter system is supposed to mean, is it a fighter aircraft laser or the name of a system?
Automagfreek
09-08-2004, 04:25
It's an alliance which I ah, semi-ignore, and has many members who I and some of the aforementioned nations/alliances have had a war with recently.

First two are Automagfreek and the Allied Powers Treaty Orginization (Alliance thingy I'm in, Automagfreek is a nation in there who got in a fairly prolific, but ultimately one sided war with Allanea, and now has some nations whining about him)


So sorry to hijack, but...huh??? Who's complaining? If anything people have been praising me for lasting as long as I did against his absurdity.

+ a Bump 4 j00.
New Empire
09-08-2004, 13:23
OOC: That was basically a blanket statement to all the pinheads that tried the embargo with RF.
New Empire
09-08-2004, 13:25
What, like an IR missile blinder except with a much higher power output?

I don't quite follow what fighter system is supposed to mean, is it a fighter aircraft laser or the name of a system?

Yes, like that.

When I say fighter system, I mean it was in a large, fuel tank sized pod that you could put on the belly of a plane (Usually interceptors or heavy fighters), based on the HELLADS program run by DARPA to put a laser on the JSF.
Imperila
09-08-2004, 13:27
could we rent one of these until the time comes when our great nation can aford to pay in full. Say in about 7 years.
New Empire
09-08-2004, 13:34
Uh, were not Hertz, buddy. You cannot rent a 13.5 billion dollar, nuclear powered, laser equipped supercarrier.
Imperila
09-08-2004, 13:35
lol what ever we thank you for your time.
Pwnica
09-08-2004, 13:36
[OOC] Is this for sale yet? In the first post you said you might sell after some responses but in the second page you put a price. Also, are you going to sell production rights (for the right price and a non-disclosure/non-export policy)?
New Empire
09-08-2004, 22:15
OOC: Yes, it's on sale providing your political stances based on those questions are in good favor.

And the only sea vessels I sell production rights to are the subfighters.