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The Federation of Morathania has begun full scale production of the XB-70 Valkyrie. The plans for this aircraft, developed and flown by the United States in the late 60's, were aquired about 2 and a half years ago by Hamilton Aeronautical, a major aircraft manufacturer for the Federation of Morathania, and after a few tweeks to the design production models started to roll off the assembly line. Until now they have only been avalaible to the Federation of Morathania and to a lesser extent its allies. Here are the statistics:

SPECIFICATIONS

Span: 105 ft.
Length: 185 ft. 10 in. without boom; 192 ft. 2 in. with boom
Height: 30 ft. 9 in.
Weight: 534,700 lbs. loaded
Armament: None
Payload: 50,000 pounds of bombs Nuclear or Conventional
Engines: Six General Electric YJ-93s of 30,000 lbs. thrust each with afterburner.

PERFORMANCE

Maximum speed: 2,056 mph. (Mach 3.1) at 73,000 ft.
Cruising speed: 2,000 mph. (Mach 3.0) at 72,000 ft.
Range: 4,288 miles
Service Ceiling: 83,350 ft.

Images

http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/xb70/xb70.jpg
http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/xb70/xb70valk2.jpg

PRICE: USD 75,000,000

Limit of 10 aircraft per nation due to construction, development limits and current government limitations. If you would like to purchase more than ten you will have to have a background check and your nation will be put under watch. That means that you will have to be submitted to random Morathanian checks of Air Bases where the B-70 is stored and authorization from the Morathanian government before deployment. Thank you very much.

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Buy 4 Get One Free. Buy 2 Get The Third Half Price. For A Limited Time.

Isn't that the Concordski?

I would like to purchase 4 with my added free bomber.

375,000,000 wired on confirmation.

Discounts for allies?

*cough cough*

Cullenus confirmed. Have a nice day.

Allies Discount

30% discount for all Victoria Alliance nations
15% for The Lightning Star
25% for Grudasia
10% for Czania

What the hell do you mean by the Concordski? If your talking about the Concord then your wrong. This is a bomber not a passenger plane. It has a different design than the Concord. Check the facts. This was a real aircraft test flown by the USAF in the 1960's its first flight was in 1964. No this is not the Concord.

How much for rights?

Isn't that the Concordski?

Its a b-70. An aircraft that was never used, but the Russians made the Mig-25 anyways.

I'm sorry Island of Rose currently the Morathanian government has limited the distribution of the B-70 Valkyrie. We are only able to sell the aircraft not the production rights. I'm sorry. It may be possible that the ban will be lifted. Until that time their is no way we can sell you the rights.

I'm sorry Island of Rose currently the Morathanian government has limited the distribution of the B-70 Valkyrie. We are only able to sell the aircraft not the production rights. I'm sorry. It may be possible that the ban will be lifted. Until that time their is no way we can sell you the rights.

Understandable.

I'll wait until the ban is lifted then, we're a very cheap people and we like to plan for the long road.

Bordo Principale Technologies is very curious as to how you were able to overcome the extreme vulnerability to SAMs that rendered the original XB-70 useless. This is a most perplexing question to our engineers, as your specifications indicate no deviation whatsoever from the original Valkyrie's design. We would like to know, if the aircraft is indeed unchanged, how you expect it to compete successfully?
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Martino Lascada
Chief Engineer, Aeronautics
Bordo Principale Technologies

Ya know in this day and age the XB-70 would cost more than the B-2 and that costs $2.1B.

Ya know in this day and age the XB-70 would cost more than the B-2 and that costs $2.1B.

ooc: And it would lack the surivability of the B2, as it is a deathtrap against SAMs of even the 1960's variety.

OOC: Okay you got me their. Thank you for pointing out how damn stupid I am. What I can say though is that these B-70s are able to carry cruise missles which can be fired from ranges of up to 1,000 miles away. Also they can be used in situations when most Anti-Air and SAM installations have been taken out.

It seems like this plane would be fragile if hit by a missile or having to pull a number of G's. Especially since its so long...

Well those are the risks when you make a very fast aircraft. The SR-71 Blackbird faces the same sort of risks but was widly used for many years.

ooc: And it would lack the surivability of the B2, as it is a deathtrap against SAMs of even the 1960's variety.

To a degree. The XB-70 unfortunately has a radar and IR signature larger than the state of Texas. The only thing is that if it is flying at 80,000 feet and at Mach 3 it will be a huge target on radar but still hard to shoot down from anything other than a head-on shot. Granted it wouldn't last very long without some sort of protection like stand-off jamming.

I use a B-70B Valkyrie version but it doesn't fly without fighter escorts or stand-off jammers. It's not a first-strike weapon, stealth is. It's fills the massive bombing role really.

New ones from me cost $5B. Just the way they were built way back when would make them so expensive nowadays. Granted, probably not $5B a aircraft but I have mine at $5B because I REALLY have modernization systems in place.

It seems like this plane would be fragile if hit by a missile or having to pull a number of G's. Especially since its so long...

G's? LOL! Trust me that sucker really can't pull many Gs. Not so much that it would damage the structure.

Ya you would need some sort of escort or Jamming. Jamming anyway is widly used in war anyway that usually the enemy is jammed by the time you would fly in this baby. A good fighter escort for this. The only fighter escort for this would be a Mig-25 Foxbat. But Jamming is the best solution.

Ya you would need some sort of escort or Jamming. Jamming anyway is widly used in war anyway that usually the enemy is jammed by the time you would fly in this baby. A good fighter escort for this. The only fighter escort for this would be a Mig-25 Foxbat. But Jamming is the best solution.

Nope. The MiG-25 doesn't have the speed, the range, the armament, or the capabilities to escort the XB-70. The original escort was going to be the F-108 Rapier. I just modified that for my B-70B.

To a degree. The XB-70 unfortunately has a radar and IR signature larger than the state of Texas. The only thing is that if it is flying at 80,000 feet and at Mach 3 it will be a huge target on radar but still hard to shoot down from anything other than a head-on shot. Granted it wouldn't last very long without some sort of protection like stand-off jamming.

I use a B-70B Valkyrie version but it doesn't fly without fighter escorts or stand-off jammers. It's not a first-strike weapon, stealth is. It's fills the massive bombing role really.

New ones from me cost $5B. Just the way they were built way back when would make them so expensive nowadays. Granted, probably not $5B a aircraft but I have mine at $5B because I REALLY have modernization systems in place.

ooc: Well, the fact is that if it is not made for a first strike capacity, than what is the point of having it so fast? It is easy to co-ordinate missions well enough that slower aircraft would still have the ability to take advantage of the tactical situation, after the first strike. So, we find this aircraft to be grossely inefficient. However that is strictly from our tactical doctrine standpoint. We have very fast aircraft has well, but they also combine stealth technology, ARC, ECM and higher maneuverability. This is once again, according to our doctrine, and we find that such an aircraft would not fit anywhere in our tactics.

Its weakness does not only come from its huge dectectability, but its inability to maneuver. It must fly straight, and narrow in order to reach its target.

A high altitude, Mach 3 penetrator cannot maneuver well; its straight and level trajectory would have been an easy course to plot and intercept. Further, the technology that made Mach 3 possible yielded an airframe with a large RCS that added to the effectiveness of SAMs against the XB-70. The airframe was not adaptable to low level penetration to avoid SAMs because the delta wings were very thin and did not lend themselves to the structural modifications necessary for sustained, low level flight.

The XB-70 design had payload flexibility but not mission flexibility. In 1959, the XB-70 concept was changed to a recon/strike RS-70, making it a reconnaissance aircraft with a bomber strike capability. However, its reconnaissance capability would not have been as good as the super high altitude aircraft designed to fill the reconnaissance role. The XB-70 was an aircraft which fulfilled the criteria it was designed to meet, but whose mission had been eliminated by defensive threat technology.

The high drag of the Mach 3 airframe required a fuel load comparable to the B-52 but limited the range to about 5,000 nm. It was capable of carrying both conventional and nuclear weapons internally, but due to its design and Mach 3 mission profile, it could not carry external ordnance.

Well then don't buy it. Instead of it being a first strike weapon it is more of a quick strike weapon able to take advantage of smaller periods of opertunity.

Well then don't buy it. Instead of it being a first strike weapon it is more of a quick strike weapon able to take advantage of smaller periods of opertunity.

I was simply offering our poisition on this weapon. It does not fight any niches in our tactical mission profile, and is therefore deemed unneccessary to our military. However, that is OUR military, and it can more than likely find a welcomed place in many other air forces. We were just shedding a little insight on this subject.
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Martino Lascada
Chief Engineer, Aeronautics
Bordo Principale Technologies

OOC: Please leave if you are not going to buy. You don't want it fine. You've been heard also. You've given your opinion and thats great. The buyer needs to be informed but if your not intrested do not dissuade any other nations that may be intrested.

ooc:
I never intended to dissaude the general public from buying this product. Whatever I said was meant merely as constructive criticism, which is a very important aspect of the Nationstates environment. When someone challenges your product, it forces you to defend it as best as you could. By defending it you provided valuable reasons why to buy your product.

My statements were only meant as challenges to your design, that doubtless others would think about, but not articulate. By articulating them I allowed you to dispell such protests, and provide an antithesis to them, Proving your aircraft's own worthiness.

However, I will now take my leave of this thread. Allowing your sales of this most worthy aircraft to continue.

Thank you. BUY NOW BEFORE THEIR ALL GONE. THIS SALE WILL NOT LAST FOREVER. THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME.

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August 7th, 2004. Granzi City.

The nation of Czania would like to purchase some High Altitude Bombers from Morathania for the discount price of 67,500,000 USD. The nation of Czania has, for too long, been defenseless, and although I don't mean to sound like some militairy insurgents (referring to Ivan Golonitz), we really do need defenses in case of attack.

As of yet, we only have the funds for 3 of your bombers, but we will keep them in the highest value and train them regularily.

Money shall be wired on demand.

Sincerely,
Sergei Donyavich

P.S. I do hope trades can continue prosperly between our two nations.

Order confirmed please wire money immediately. Thank you and have a nice day.

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Nope. The MiG-25 doesn't have the speed, the range, the armament, or the capabilities to escort the XB-70.
The Soviets modified one version,the MiG-25R Foxbat-B, which could go faster than the XB-70.

OOC: Do I have to physically say that I wire the money, or is it just taken for granted?

OOC: No you don't. In the future it is alot easier to say at the end of a post like this one to say Money Wired Upon Confirmation. Also you don't need to RP buying something. You can just do something like this:
Czania would like to buy:
3 Xb-70s

Money Wired Upon Confirmation

That is your standard buying post.