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Crew: 3
Weight: 46 tons
Max Speed: 45 mph
Armour: Hardened Steel with Composite armour on the Glacis Plate and the Turret. New Kaktus ERA installed as standard.
Armament: 1- 120mm Cannon, 2- 12.7mm MG's, 8- Smoke and Gas grenade launchers.

Cost: $3 million

The K-107 features a 120mm cannon, either smoothbore (Version 'S') or rifled (Version 'R'). So compatibility with other NATO ammunition is assured. The overhanging bustle of this tank enables it to have the autoloader and ammunition separated from the crew by a bulkhead. This eliminates the problem in Soviet tanks that the ammunition explodes, killing the crew.

This tank has been tried and tested extensively and has only been available to members of the RSA. We believe that this tank is the best all round tank we have produced, and we are now happy to sell it on the open market. Should anyone require additional details, please don't hesitate to ask.

Please state when buying what version you would like.

Do your own math or incur a 10% extra charge.

We would like to purchase a bulk order of 10,000 of these units, smoothbore cannon version. Total comes to $30b, which will be wired upon confirmation of our order and, if possible, an estimated time until they can be shipped to us.

With thanks,
General Darthanian,
Pwnica Ground/Sea forces.

I would like 100,000 of these tanks, rifled, for three trillion USD.

Thank you for your order, 10,000 K-107S's have been shipped to you. They should arrive in 4 NS months (1 day RL, for me).

Sorry, my last post was to Pwnica.

JJR: Confirmed. The tanks will arrive in 2 RL days (8 NS months).

Isn't it kinda standard?

TGL: No, not really. It has a modern western weapons system, that is more than capable of knocking out any RL tanks in existance. This coupled with Kaktus armour and the new bulkhead make this tank very well protected, while still maintaining the small shape and size of a soviet tank.

The cost is also very good, with most western tanks costing around $6 million. This is half the price, and a much better tank.

OOC: I see. i just preferthe really high tech but shudderingly expensive type tanks, but then I have a small armed forces.

If you prefer those types of tanks, I have the perfect one...

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=47

Look at the Revenant MkII info thread, and look on the MBT thread. It is a damn good tank, but pricey

OOC: Very nice :)

We at Imperila would like to purchase 30 of these vehiciles to help our military start off. If order is confirmed plese ship them to our port Marne. Thank YOu.

Frommers Lexington President of Imperila

Imperila: Confirmed, the ships will arrive later on today (RL). Thanks.

We'd like to place an additional order for 240,000 more of these tanks, to be shipped over 6 NS years if possible (40,000 each year). The total sum is $720,000,000,000, and we will pay $120,000,000,000 each year. Please let us know if this arrangment is satisfactory.

That is fine, we hope that this tank proves worthy of your service. Be aware that should any upgrades be made available, you would get the upgrades to all your K-107 free.

The Army Research and Evaluation Department wishes to purchase two Rifled versions and two smoothboore gun versions for trials.

Sure, the versions have been sent, along with complementary ammunition.

We hope the trials are satisfactory, and would we would like to hear the results.

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Greetings from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. The Imperial Army is undergoing unprecedented modernization, and we are looking outward to supplement our own arms.

The Imperial Army of Sdaeriji requests the following:

Four (4) K-107 Kommando MBT Tanks

The payment of $12 million will be wired immediately upon confirmation of order. If Imperial Army Commission is satisfied with the quality of the purchase, we will be doing business with you in the future. Thank you.

General Guidell Fanter
Imperial Army of Sdaeriji

I fail to see how this tank is especially powerful, its very light which means less armour. Even with ERA, the enemy can use ERA in conjunction with a Chobham type armour. Reduced weight must come from somewhere.

I also fail to see how you think your tank can take out most real MBT's. It doesnt seem to have much special with it. It seems very similar to the T-80UM2, except with a Nato gun. Most western tanks seem to have better armour, especially if they use ERA in conjunction, which most can, such as abrams and LeClerc.

Im wondering about what ammunition you use for your gun/s, and what the lengths are for the Smoothbore and Rifled guns respectivly.

Also, since its so light, how much fuel does it hold(how far can it go without needing refuel)?

Sdaeriji: Confirmed. The tanks have been sent and should arrive within 2 NS weeks. An extra free tank has been included.

Chellis: Well, the K-107 encorporates Kaktus ERA (or Kontakt-5), which has proven to be VERY effective against APFS/DS rounds, as well as HEAT.

Look HERE (http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/K/Kontakt-5.htm)

The effectiveness of Kontakt-5 ERA is confirmed in the west by tests run by the German Bundeswehr and the US Army. The Germans confirmed that in tests, the K-5, mounted on older T-72 tanks, 'shattered' their 120mm DM-53 penetrators, and in the US, Jane's IDR's Pentagon correspondent Leland Ness confirmed that "When fitted to T-72 tanks, the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU penetrators of M829 APFSDS, fired by the 120 mm guns of the US M1 Abrams tanks, which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles."

The majority of the tank is fitted with this ERA.

As for the ability to take out most modern MBT's, I would say that a 120mm smoothbore firing a APFS/DS round could penetrate an M1A2, not to mention the soviet tanks.

Here are the rounds the tank guns can fire:

Version 'S': APFS/DS, HEAT, HE-FS, Songster ATGM
Version 'R': APFS/DS, HESH, HE-FS, Songster ATGM

Gun Lengths:
'S': 6ft 4in
'R': 5ft 9in

Range: 300 miles

Any other questions?

You didnt answer how long the guns were. Is the Smoothbore an L44 and the Rifled an L30, or what?

Also, Kaktus-5 is the newest ERA, so it should be compared to the M829a3, which is the newest version of the M829, which is alot stronger than current versions. Also, the M1a2 without ERA has armour over 1000mm, which most tank guns cant take out currently. Added with ERA, the front armour of the Abrams could reach over 1,600mm of armour. I just dont see what makes your tank better then say a black eagle, or M1a2SEP.

Gun Lengths:
'S': 6ft 4in
'R': 5ft 9in


I don't know what the lengths are in Calibre's...

Why is it better?

Cheaper, Lighter, Quicker, Safer(than a soviet MBT), more Reliable, Stronger, compatablity with most ammunition types...

Quite a lot. :D

Can that new M829a3 snap SABOT's?

Greetings again from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. As you may already know, the Imperial Army is undergoing unprecedented modernization, and we are looking outward to supplement our own arms. The Imperial Army Commission was quite pleased with the quality of the tanks we recieved from you, and we wish to add even more of your magnificent tanks to our military might.

The Imperial Army of Sdaeriji requests:

105,000 K-107 Kommando MBT Tanks

The payment of $315 billion will be wired upon confirmation of order. We are happy to again do business with Intelligent Products and we look forward to future dealings. Thank you.

General Guidell Fanter
Imperial Army of Sdaeriji

Cheaper(less quality), Lighter(less armour in weight), Quicker(Yet slower than most newer western tanks), Safer(than a soviet MBT)(Seems to be an assumption), more Reliable(Seems to be another assumption), Stronger(based on what?), compatablity with most ammunition types(Any 120mm nato, sure...So is most western tanks...)...
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Can that new M829a3 snap SABOT's?

Sabot isnt armour.....


See above

ooc: I'm just going to assume I got my tanks since it seems like you forgot about this thread.

Sdaeriji: Sorry, I went on holiday... As an apology, I will take 10% off the cost of that order.

Chellis: Goddamn, stop trying to annoy me!

The aim for this tank was to make a tank that was not too expensive, but still good enough to compete with many modern tanks. For example, the M1A2 costs about $6 million. I am selling tanks capable of beating them for half the price. I chose this option so many new nations could purchase good yet cheap tanks.

I have corrected the main deficiencies in the soviet style of tank, yet kept the low profile, lightness and speed that they have.

For your information, this tank is light because of its new armour, ASH. This armour is ultra light and very tough.

Please prove your statements saying this tank is slower than most western MBT's?

Please respond via TG, I do not wish to see your ill-informed, pedantic comments in a place where they do not belong.