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Magdha Reforms

Magdha
07-08-2004, 22:22
Today in the capital of Varanasi the Maharajah has new legislation into being, the international community will hopefully accept these changes.

Because of the destruction of Whittier and their armed forces, who were the primary defenders of Magdha, our nation no longer feels safe with our reduced army.

Thus Magdha is obliged to build up her army to meet new threats to the level of 8,000,000 Active duty and 5,000,000 Reservists. As a member of the Whittier Pact, however, we are no longer an imperialistic nation and will not launch invasions except to support allies who are not planning to annex land or to attack nations if required by the Whittier Pact.

-Signed Maharajah Rama Gupta of Magdha.
Magdha
07-08-2004, 22:45
Magdha would like to ask nations for recommendations of a new infantry assault rifle.
Tyrandis
07-08-2004, 22:50
Magdha would like to ask nations for recommendations of a new infantry assault rifle.

Tyrandis's armed forces use the M-8 with a longer barrel, for improved accuracy.
Torsg
07-08-2004, 22:54
We can sell the license to produce TA-04 rifles. Our newest design.
It utilises rugged and reliable AK designs. It's designed to perform well in any enviroment, however it's designed for longer ranges not CQB.
State your offer and i will consider it.

TA-04
Type:assault rifle
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 7.62x51mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 1200 mm
Barrel length: 500 mm
Weigth: 3.8 kg / 4.2 loaded
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Effective range of fire: 700 m
The Parthians
07-08-2004, 23:19
We use the XM-8 long barreled or short-barreled ones with ga mounted grenade launcher.
Magdha
08-08-2004, 07:58
We will begin production of the XM-8.
Whittier-
09-08-2004, 06:07
Today in the capital of Varanasi the Maharajah has new legislation into being, the international community will hopefully accept these changes.

Because of the destruction of Whittier and their armed forces, who were the primary defenders of Magdha, our nation no longer feels safe with our reduced army.

Thus Magdha is obliged to build up her army to meet new threats to the level of 8,000,000 Active duty and 5,000,000 Reservists. As a member of the Whittier Pact, however, we are no longer an imperialistic nation and will not launch invasions except to support allies who are not planning to annex land or to attack nations if required by the Whittier Pact.

-Signed Maharajah Rama Gupta of Magdha.

? Destruction of Whittier?
Did I miss something? I was using Shangia as Whittier. It had 1.6 bill. pop.
BLARGistania
09-08-2004, 06:10
Blargistania uses a standard OICW for infantry purposes. We can also employ several rifles not for sale on the open market that are exclusive BDI make.
Magdha
10-08-2004, 20:21
? Destruction of Whittier?
Did I miss something? I was using Shangia as Whittier. It had 1.6 bill. pop.

OOC: Since Whittier is gone and somne people will not recognize your armed forces you use, I have teken it upon myself to remilitarize.
Northwestern Liang
10-08-2004, 20:53
As the disintegration of Whittierite control in Maghdan territories has come about so recently, the Domain feels obliged to remind the Magdhan government that they are fully under our sovereignty. The off-shore Magdhan islands are still under the watchful eye of Liangite carrier fleets and marines, as well as several large cities on the western mainland. As such, your militarization will be much smaller than you just stated. Perhaps a million men active duty and a few more as reserves. Should you fail to stop mobilizing, the Domain will be forced to take military action to curb your violent tendencies.
We remind you that during your brief time as a peaceful vassal state, we were quite willing and able to map out your entire nation's military capabilities. While we do not regard your crippled nation a threat, the continuation of mobilization will be met with a pre-emptive assault and the full integration of the Maharajate as a province of Liang. You have 72 hours to comply.

Have a nice day!

~Lord Vytautas Karyu
High Admiral of the ILN
Sky Marshal of the LNAF
Viceroy of Liangite Maghda
Grenval
10-08-2004, 20:59
Let it be known that Grenval implores Magdha to meet the demand of Northwestern Liang. If Magdha is to refuse, Grenval will not support Magdha for free. The war would be too dangerous and the prices to high for such an ally with a past such as your own. Grenval will support Magdha for economic gains only, and in doing so, Grenval would likely minimize total support.

Rachel Samantha Bafringh
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Kelonian States
10-08-2004, 21:17
Kelonia supports Magdha's desire to be able to arm and protect it's own people. The attitude of countries like Northwestern Liang hints that they would rather oppress and intimidate the country using it's chequered past as an excuse rather than keep a 'watchful eye' over them.

Outside forces will never have the same motivation to defend a country as it's own people and we feel the 'watchful eye' nations should allow Magdha to have a minor force of it's own. You have an eye on them, you will see if anything major happens - give them the ability to defend themselves so they do not have to rely on the fickle politics of outside nations for the whole of their national security.

As reguards to the rifle requirement, Magdha, you might want to check out our product below;

MP-68 Tactical Multipurpose Rifle from Kelarms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Rentro/fal_dsa_sa58osw.jpg
Specification
Manufacturer: Kelarms Corp.
Calibre: 7.62 NATO or Equivalent - Can be converted to 5.56 with barrel and mag-feed conversion kit.
Rate of Fire: Selective - 650 rounds per minute (Mid-Speed), 1000 rounds per minute (High Speed).
Fire Modes: Single-shot, 3-Round burst, 5-Round burst, Automatic (Mid Speed), Automatic (High Speed).
Attachments: Clip-in belt-feeding mag-feed kit, Tripod, Flashlight, Laser targetting system, Underbarrel grenade launcher, Telescopic sight, Silencer.
(Rifle comes with a conversion kit containing the belt-feeder attachment and tripod. Full attachment kit extra (see pricing below)).

Introduction
Do your military forces use a wide range of weapons? A seperate firearm for your machinegun, submachinegun and assault rifle needs? The MP in MP68 doesn't stand for Machine Pistol, no - it stands for MultiPurpose - with a few minor adjustments and a conversion kit that is as simple as clipping on the parts you want, the MP68 can function as anything from a tactical submachinegun for police use to a fully-automatic light machine gun or SAW.

Pricing:
The weapon retails at $850 per unit, $900 for a unit with the complete attachment kit. Large orders and/or contracts are negotiable.

A more detailed description (and details of a smaller machine pistol you may be interested in) can be found here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343381).
The Island of Rose
10-08-2004, 21:21
We use the good old, HK G36, it looks sexy and it works.
Northwestern Liang
10-08-2004, 21:23
Or perhaps you are simply looking for an arms market and some bloodshed? May I ask, where were you when Magdha was liberated? What business have you in this nation's affairs? Oh, that's right. You weren't there. You are meddling in affairs that are not your own and are undermining my authority over a territory which has been under *my* sovereignty for many years. This mobilization is still in it's infant stages, and once again, I remind the Maharajah, if it goes anywhere further your nation will be, shall we say, more fully integrated?
Perhaps you believe a few million men inadequate for nation defense (in addition to the fact that the Domain would assist in any hostile encounter)? Kindly keep your nose out of Liang's business.

~Lord Vytautas Karyu
High Admiral of the ILN
Sky Marshal of the LNAF
Viceroy of Liangite Magdha
Kelonian States
10-08-2004, 22:54
Or perhaps having experienced it so recently in our own history, back in the oppressive days of our own overlords, now thankfully vanquished, we realise that to force a people completely under the rule of an unwanted force is to instigate ill-feeling, and when that force is from outside the country itself, experience elsewhere tells us that this leaves the country in danger of being left undefended at the whim of fickle politics.

While we do not support a full remobilization of forces, we believe you should allow Magdha to have a minor force of it's own in order to defend itself in the event of politics in your country leaving the people of their country undefended. This is a time for compromise, and we stand by our claim that Magdha should be allowed a small force of it's own - under your control, maybe, and under your close guidance definately, but they should be granted one.

Igor Lavinski, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs
Assistant to Foreign Affairs Minister Dimitri Onoshin,
Department of the Externa,
Kelonian Government.
The Parthians
11-08-2004, 16:13
Magdha is a member of the League of Empire Loyalists, and as such, Parthia is prepared to mobilze forces to defend him if he is attacked pre-emptivley. Nevertheless we think that 1,000,000 Men is a reasonable size for self defense and ask that Magdha accept it. We would also like for Northwestern Liang to Return control of the Magdhan government to the Magdhan people and end their status as tributaries.
Magdha
11-08-2004, 16:30
We will follow the directives of Northwestern Liang, our military will be reduced to the levels you have specified. Though we do not enjoy being subservient it shall be so until the future.
Northwestern Liang
11-08-2004, 16:41
Rama Gupta, you are not subservient. Your nation is free to manage it's own internal affairs, and perform any defensive war with it's military. Besides limiting your military size and overseeing any offensive activity, the Domain is not an 'overlord' in any sense. Now kindly stop griping about the lack of freedoms that doesn't exist. We saw how the Maharajah when he was not leashed, and that genocidal terror we will not loose on small, free states of the world.
Kelonia and Parthia - While your concern that Magdha is simply a small, subservient vassal state is understandable, perhaps you should do more research into the relationship between Liang and Magdha and why this is so. Once again, I remind you that this is none of your business. Frankly, I am tired of nations like yourself rushing into war at the drop of a hat. Please, gain some maturity and think of the lives of millions. Kelonia, Magdha will maintain more than a 'small defense force', they have a million-man army. If this is not sufficient as a 'small defense force', I suggest you re-evaluate your logic.

Much love,

~Lord Vytautas Karyu
High Admiral of the ILN
Sky Marshal of the LNAF
Viceroy of Liangite Magdha
The Parthians
11-08-2004, 20:43
A one million man army is fine for defensive purposes. We were not going to rush into war though, we just are worried that Magdha might have been some small vassal of yours.
Shangia
11-08-2004, 23:13
This is the new Whittier. If you check with NS Economy, you will find it quite capable of fielding the same army as the original Whittier.
Hence, the Whittier military presence in Magdha remains strong.
Shangia
11-08-2004, 23:31
As the disintegration of Whittierite control in Maghdan territories has come about so recently, the Domain feels obliged to remind the Magdhan government that they are fully under our sovereignty. The off-shore Magdhan islands are still under the watchful eye of Liangite carrier fleets and marines, as well as several large cities on the western mainland. As such, your militarization will be much smaller than you just stated. Perhaps a million men active duty and a few more as reserves. Should you fail to stop mobilizing, the Domain will be forced to take military action to curb your violent tendencies.
We remind you that during your brief time as a peaceful vassal state, we were quite willing and able to map out your entire nation's military capabilities. While we do not regard your crippled nation a threat, the continuation of mobilization will be met with a pre-emptive assault and the full integration of the Maharajate as a province of Liang. You have 72 hours to comply.

Have a nice day!

~Lord Vytautas Karyu
High Admiral of the ILN
Sky Marshal of the LNAF
Viceroy of Liangite Maghda

There has been no disintegration of Whittier control. We gave their nation back to them. But we will still defend their soverignty.
Communist Mississippi
11-08-2004, 23:32
Ooc- All non-magdhan forces will vacate Magdha within 24 hours unless you have permission to stay. If they do not they may face action that will force them out. We shall see what happens.
Shangia
11-08-2004, 23:42
Ooc- All non-magdhan forces will vacate Magdha within 24 hours unless you have permission to stay. If they do not they may face action that will force them out. We shall see what happens.
There are over 1 million Whittier troops stationed throughtout the Magdhan India and Kashmir, Grenval has troops in Madghan Burma.
NL has troops in Bombay and only Bombay. Whittier troops are in Magdha at the request of the Magdhans.
Due to Magdha being a member of the WP.
Northwestern Liang
12-08-2004, 01:09
OOC: Aside from that utterly moronic fact that you just threatened an IC government with an OOC remark, CM, you are already on my unofficial ignore list.
Just a little note, what makes you assume I will RP with you when you don't allow anyone to RP with you if they havent pre-planned it? Bluntly, I don't expect an RP with you to be fun, and as such you are IGNORED.
Whittier, the same goes for you. As far as I'm concerned your government disintegrated and Magdha took control. Northwestern Liang asserted it's authority, and that is the situation at present. If you want to invade Magdha, by all means, make my day, but I will not recognize you as being 3 billion + Whittier who had been in control of Magdha.
Whittier-
13-08-2004, 19:49
OOC: Aside from that utterly moronic fact that you just threatened an IC government with an OOC remark, CM, you are already on my unofficial ignore list.
Just a little note, what makes you assume I will RP with you when you don't allow anyone to RP with you if they havent pre-planned it? Bluntly, I don't expect an RP with you to be fun, and as such you are IGNORED.
Whittier, the same goes for you. As far as I'm concerned your government disintegrated and Magdha took control. Northwestern Liang asserted it's authority, and that is the situation at present. If you want to invade Magdha, by all means, make my day, but I will not recognize you as being 3 billion + Whittier who had been in control of Magdha.
Well, not in the WP universe you don't.
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 19:55
OOC: Aside from that utterly moronic fact that you just threatened an IC government with an OOC remark, CM, you are already on my unofficial ignore list.
Just a little note, what makes you assume I will RP with you when you don't allow anyone to RP with you if they havent pre-planned it? Bluntly, I don't expect an RP with you to be fun, and as such you are IGNORED.
Whittier, the same goes for you. As far as I'm concerned your government disintegrated and Magdha took control. Northwestern Liang asserted it's authority, and that is the situation at present. If you want to invade Magdha, by all means, make my day, but I will not recognize you as being 3 billion + Whittier who had been in control of Magdha.


Ooc- basically it was an offer from me for us to talk about a possible RP taking place in Magdha. Since you are not interested, I am moving along. Good day to you sir, or ma'am, or sir+ma'am for some people. :D
Shangia
13-08-2004, 20:12
Ooc- basically it was an offer from me for us to talk about a possible RP taking place in Magdha. Since you are not interested, I am moving along. Good day to you sir, or ma'am, or sir+ma'am for some people. :D
OOC: good call CM.
NL is ignored cause his dracospawn are godmodes.
The Parthians
14-08-2004, 02:25
ooc:What are the dracospawn you speak of?