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The successor to Soyuz: Frunze nears completion

DontPissUsOff
06-08-2004, 23:14
"Frunze" class Battleship


Overview

Following exhaustive testing of the first Soyuz-class nuclear-powered Battleships, it was determined by the Naval Staff that these ships had several serious deficiencies. The greatest problem was the enormous recoil caused by the 12 16-inch guns if the ship fired a broadside; this recoil was found during static main armament tests prior to the acceptance of the first Soyuz-class into service to cause serious damage to the recoil-absorbing mountings, gun turrets, and hull, so much so that after 25 full-charge broadsides the ship would often be incapable of fighting for between 8 and 12 hours while repairs were made to the guns and their turrets. Shock damage to the hull would also necessitate significant repairs to the ship after any action in which all 12 guns were regularly used. The recoil force was also, in certain very rare circumstances, capable of capsizing the vessel. Despite major work to improve matters during construction of the first of the class, including vastly strengthened recoil-absorbing mountings for the main armament and strengthening of the hull plates where possible, the problems remained, though it must be said that their seriousness was much diminished. The secondary armament, despite being increased during construction by the addition of 8 2A64 152mm smoothbore guns derived from land artillery pieces and the substitution of triple-gun AK-130 turrets in place of the original double-gun turrets fitted to the prototype, was still considered to be inadequate by many, and the hangar space for aircraft was also felt to be too small, restricting the vessel's freedom of action. It was also felt that the SSM complement was insufficient, meaning the ship was too reliant upon its' escorts to provide long-range anti-ship defences. Finally, the ship was felt to be too large in some circles, and it was true that the great length and beam of the Soyuz-class was difficult to accommodate in most existing naval yards. Nonetheless, the Soyuz was felt to be a basically sound design, and thus production went ahead. Twelve ships were originally planned; however the Soyuz class was still in production when the idea of the next class of battleship was first mooted in Navy circles.

In the latter part of 2002, a contract was offered to all the major DPUO shipbuilding facilities to construct the second class of Battleship. This contract called for a speed of 30-35 knots and a main armament of between 15 and 20 inch guns, with armour able to withstand all present and projected anti-shipping weapons systems, with maximum dimensions of 450x50x11, this being necessary to avoid the digging of specialised harmours for the ships, and not to exceed 94,000 tonnes fully laden. Designs were submitted by the four major shipbuilding firms, the winning submission coming from the Harland Shipbuilding Works of New Belfast. (Harland's, it should be noted, is a descendant company of Harland and Wolff, builders of the Titanic.) The design bore a strong similarity to the Nelson-class battleships of WWII.


General

Crew: 2,117
Displacement: 86,500 tonnes unladen, 91,157 tonnes fully laden
Endurance: 120 days' steaming, 54 days' combat operations.
Dimensions: Length 409.6m, Beam 43.3m, Draught (mean) 9.5m
Top speed: 36 knots

Armament

The main armament consists of nine DK-23 18-inch guns, firing a shell of 3,392lbs (this for an armour-piercing round). The guns have a maximum accurate range of approximately 26.9 kilometres and maximum range of 45.2 kilometres, and can fire APDS, HE-FRAG, HE and low-calibre (10-inch) guided shells, as well as a rocket-assisted shells with a range of 56km and accurate an accurate range of 23.4Km, and chemical shells. Barrel life is estimated at 270 full-charge firings per gun. The guns can elavate to 41 degrees and depress to -12 degrees. Rate of fire is approximately 3 RPM per gun. The guns are concentrated all forward in three triple-gun turrets, with turret B superfiring. In a chase action, turret C is inoperable directly forward.

Secondary armament is composed of 8 2A64N (for Naval) 152mm smoothbore guns mounted in four twin-gun turrets with an elevation of 44 degrees and depression of -13 degrees. As on the Soyuz-class, these have a rate of fire of 8 RPM per gun. These guns have a maximum range of 24Km and an optimum accurate range of 18Km, and can fire APHE, HE, HE-FRAG and Krasnopol-M ATGM munitions. Though of limited use against other large surface vessels, the Kransopol-M is excellent against smaller craft that would otherwise necessitate expenditure of valuable ammunition. The secondary armament can also fire smoke and chemical shells. The ship also posesses four four-round launcher boxes for the SS-N-22 SSM on the port and starboard decks, and a VLS system in place of the former position of the launches and funnel, containing 16 SS-N-19B missiles. Secondary gun armament is concentrated astern. It is of note that during the final design stages, the secondary armament was re-appraise significantly, with fewer 152mm guns being placed on the ship than had been designed.

Anti-aircraft protection is provided by the IULLDES Mark III system mounted on the fo'c'sle and stern of the ship, consisting of four ASL-100 combination gun/flechette launchers, two AO-18 CIWS guns and four SA-N-20 missile launchers (see IULLDES (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343036) entry for further details), plus four SA-N-6 and four SA-N-9 launchers, mounted on a large AA platform about atop the superstructure. The ship also posesses a helicopter/V/STOL hangar and landing pad that can accommodate anything up to four aircraft, including two Yak-141Ms and a pair of Ka-27B ASW helicopters. Further anti-submarine defence is provided by the SS-N-27 ASW anti-submarine weapon, for which two launchers are carried, one mounted on the forcastle and one on the sterndeck. Both launchers have sloped, composite (as on T-90M) armoured casings with exhaust vents to vent propulsion gases from the rocket boosters.


Ammunition allocations

Main armament: 1,080 rounds
Secondary Armament: 1,600 rounds
SA-N-6: 120 missiles
SA-N-9: 340 missiles
SA-N-20: 300 missiles
SS-N-22: 48 missiles
SS-N-27 ASW: 24 weapons


Compartmentation

The hull is divided by watertight bulkheads into seven compartments:

1) Sonar dome, crew accomodation, galleys, recreation area, storage;
2) Forward main armament and CIWS magazines, forward missile magazines for SAMs and ASWs;
3) Main reactor spaces;
4) Main machinery spaces (heat exchangers, turbines);
5) Secondary armament magazines (2A64N), either side of VLS cells;
6) Auxilliary machinery spaces (turboalternators, batteries, backup gas-turbine engines), secondary fuel tanks for emergency engines.
7) Primary fuel storage for emergency engines, storage.

The ammunition magazines incorporate blow-out panels and pressure-release valves to minimise damage in the enet of a magazine explosion. The large open spaces of the engine and reactor rooms are divided by transverse bulkheads separating the individual reactors, engines and shafts. One reactor can run both sets of turbines via pipelines which traverse the bulkheads.


Armour

The armour belt runs as follows:

Side armour from forward crew accomodation and ancilliaries to bulkhead for forward magazines: 410mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 170mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for forward magazines two bulkhead for main reactor spaces: 470mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 220mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for main reactor spaces to bulkhead for main machinery spaces: 455mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 200mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for main machinery spaces to bulkhead for stern main armament magazines: 415mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 210mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for stern main armament magazines to bulkhead for secondary armament magazines: 470mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 200mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for secondary armament magazines to bulkhead for auxilliary machinery spaces: 440mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 180mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

From bulkhead for auxilliary machinery spaces to stern: 350mm composite with Kontakt-5 ERA double outer layer and anti-corrosion paint. Two layers of 120mm composite armour over deck, space between filled with insulating foam.

Anti-torpedo bulge of 130mm filled with insulating foam integral to hull design, running from five metres forward of Bulkhead #1 to five metres aft of bulkhead #6.

Armoured conning tower, with 300mm composite armour.

Hull armour configuration:

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/6738/Armour.jpg

Turret armour

Front: 400mm composite
Side: 320mm composite
Rear: 200mm composite
Roof: 270mm composite

Secondary turrets carry 300mm composite on front, 260mm composite on sides and roof, 150mm composite on rear.

Superstructure is armoured against shell splinters, missile splinters, shell up to 50mm calibre etc.

Electronics: Radar, Sonar, Ladar, Fire-control, EW


Radar/LADAR

MR-710 Fregat-MA 3d Air/Surface search radar, datalinked with Kite Screech and Oko radars
4 Palm Frond Nav radar
Volna SA-N-6 fire-control radar
Kite Screech AK-130 fire-control radar
IULLDES LADAR and Radar systems (4 Osminog LADAR, 4 Oko Fire-control radar, 2 SBI-16KB surface-search radar)
2 MR-360/Podkat SA-N-9 Fire-control
Garpun-Bal SSM guidance/targeting radar

The masts of the ship take the SSM fire-control and surveillance radars, while the upper superstructure holds the navigation and SAM radars.


Sonar

Zvezda-IIM Sonar suite, MKG-345 bow-mounted LF sonar dome
Ox Tail LF VDS


Fire-control

KOK-615B fire-control computer, measures gun angle, ship speed, target speed, wind speed, wind direction, cant angle, barrel wear and ship movement to give highly accurate fire-control for main armament and secondary armament when under manual control.


EW

Wine Glass and Bell Shroud ESM Intercept receivers
Bell Squat Jammer systems
Burn Eye anti-LADAR steam-generators
10 PK-10 Chaff Decoy RLs


Propulsion

2 OK-700w 210MW Pressurised-water reactors driving two sets direct-drive steam turbines turning two shafts, each with 1 seven-bladed variable-pitch bronze screw.

Eremrgency propulsion: 4 M8KF boost gas turbines, 45,000 shp, two per shaft, driving through two automatic gearboxes with 4 forward and 2 reverse speeds.

http://img7.exs.cx/img7/8629/BBN2-Final1.jpg
http://uk.geocities.com/invasion1940/images/naval/nelson.jpg
http://www.navyking.com/E/Battleship/Nelson/Nelson.jpg
http://www.plimsoll.org/images/18320_tcm4-23200.JPG

Nations interested in purchases can buy one of these for 7.5 billion USD.

Purchasing restrictions:

1) Aggressive Governments, Right or Left-wing
2) Far right-wing Governments/organisations
3) Terrorist organisations
4) Enemies of DPUO
5) Enemies of our allies
6) Any front-man for any of the above.

Discounts are available for:

*Members of any alliances with us
*Nations which cannot pay immediately but can in installments
*Nations who we support in urgent need of the ships, able to pay in the future.

Thanks to USSNA for helping me a tonne with the air defence systems :D
The Freethinkers
06-08-2004, 23:54
Absolutely brilliant. As well as excellent stats and a well-chosen assortment of weapons and equipment, the fact you also included the scenario for the design and construction of vessels astounds me.

Well done.
DontPissUsOff
06-08-2004, 23:56
Wow! Thanks man :D I took my lead from an excellent book, Battleships of World War II. I think it adds something to the atmosphere too :)
DontPissUsOff
07-08-2004, 03:01
Bump
Sarzonia
07-08-2004, 05:01
If anyone gets the Freethinkers seal of approval right off the bat, you done good. :)
Kahta
07-08-2004, 05:03
Kahta would like to buy 10 of these.
Hattia
07-08-2004, 05:07
Hmm, looks good...
Scandavian States
07-08-2004, 05:33
[Nice. It's good to see someone fluff up a serious fault in a battleship for once, having OMGPERFECT ship designs pisses me off to no end, especially when most of the people don't know the first thing about ship design. Again, good job.]
DontPissUsOff
07-08-2004, 13:40
OOC: Oh Gawd! Thanks very much, Freethinkers and Scandinavian States! Lol. I do try. Next design will probably a Heavy Cruiser/Battleships, based on the ol' King George the Fifth. Watch this space! :) Also, again thanks to USSNA, because he gave this thing an air-defence system that'll make most missiles quake in their launchers :)

Remember, all feeback is welcomed, from everyone, so don't hesitate to comment if you're reading this!

IC: Kahta, we are sorry, but though we have not yet completed background checks it appears that to sell these to you would consititute a breach of the Arms Sales Conditions Act, 1978.
Vrak
07-08-2004, 15:56
To: DontPissUsOff Diplomats
From: Vrak Military Procurement Division
Subject: Battleship

In keeping with your purchasing restrictions, we would like to buy one Fruze class ship. We are keenly interested in this design since we have been looking to upgrade our Soyuz III fleet for quite some time.

If possible, we would like to purchase the production rights for this vessel as well. However, we realize that your R&D department has spend considerable effort in the design, testing, and production, so we are willing to discuss any restriction that you may want to impose in that end.

We look forward to hearing from you.
DontPissUsOff
07-08-2004, 16:28
From: DPUO Foreign Office
To: Vrak Military Procurements Division
Subject: Re: Battleship

We hate to be seen to be erecting obstacles in your path to purchasing, but we would require the following information:

*Membership of any alliances
*Any recent military actions
*Policy toward left-wing nations

prior to sale of the ship. Once we are satisfied that it is safe to sell the ship, we will do so, and will be pleased to discuss production rights. Perhaps also you might be interested in our earlier ship class, the Soyuz class (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345086) battleship, which althoguh we consider it inferior to the Frunze is certainly a sound design, and now reduced somewhat in price for the export market.

This unfortunate degree of almost paranoid security and cautions has been necessitated by the nation of Communist Mississippi. We are currently engaged in a Cold War (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346136) that they imposed upon us, and have had several less than happy experiences with them in the past, such as this incident (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344184) involving a nuclear missile submarine hijacked by CM-sponsored terrorists. We do not trust CM and will not sell to anyone even remotely affiliated with them.
Kahta
07-08-2004, 16:32
IC: Kahta, we are sorry, but though we have not yet completed background checks it appears that to sell these to you would consititute a breach of the Arms Sales Conditions Act, 1978.

What requirements did I fail?
DontPissUsOff
07-08-2004, 16:56
You're an extremist right-wing nation, and I don't sell arms to extremist nations.
You're also a member of the League of Empire Loyalists set up by Communist Mississippi, which leads us to suspect that if we were to hand over these vessels they would fall into Mississippian hands, something we cannot accept. These laws apply to all our arms sales.

Arms Sales Conditions Act, 1978

1) It is hereby declared that the sale of armaments, of any type, and from any nation of origin, by the Government of this nation or any state-owned company, or any individual within our borders and/or classed as a citizen of this nation, is illegal, when said sales involve in any way the following:

a) Nations hostile to this nation; their allies, their citizens, and any organisation, Government, or individual suspected to have any links with said nations; also territories claimed by this nation, residents of those territories, and any known or suspected allies (be those allies national Governments, individuals, or organisations of any type) and/or sympathisers with these nations, their policies or their territories;

b) Nations, national Governments, organisations, individuals or their affiliates/allies/sympathisers hostile or suspected to be hostile to any nation or organisation with which this nation has any type of treaty, alliance or other relation beyond those usually maintained to allow diplomacy to occur effectively;

c) Governments, organisations or individuals considered to be a threat to the stability of world peace or a threat to the sovreignty of any nation;

d) Extremist Governments, individuals or organisations, both left and right-wing, unless with a Certificate of Sale Approval provided by the Foreign Office, signed in duplicate by the Prime Minister, Dfence Minister and Foreign Minister.

2) It is also declared and set herein that all individuals or organisations found to be breaching or complicit in breaching these laws shall be immediately stripped of citizenship, and charged with High Treason and Breach of this Act (for penalties for High Treason see "Declaration of the Sovreignty of the Very Angry Military State of DontPissUsOff", file reference LA-557-1A.
Kahta
07-08-2004, 20:39
You're an extremist right-wing nation, and I don't sell arms to extremist nations.
You're also a member of the League of Empire Loyalists set up by Communist Mississippi, which leads us to suspect that if we were to hand over these vessels they would fall into Mississippian hands, something we cannot accept. These laws apply to all our arms sales.

Extremist right-wing nation?

Proof?
DontPissUsOff
07-08-2004, 20:42
The fact you're a father knows best state with a tax rate of 67% - which is I admit high - and no social welfare. Plus you're still a member of the League.
Vrak
08-08-2004, 08:19
To: DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Military Procurement Division
Subject: Re: Battleship

We belong to KIST, an economic treaty. Our military alliance information is classified. We apologize, but we do not give that out to anyone except under special circumstances. However, we have no dealings with Communist Mississippi and certainly will not provide any type of aid to them. Regarding military actions, we are currently conducting naval exercises off the coast of the Drakonian Imperium. We have never, in our entire history, launched an invasion at anyone. On the contrary, we’ve had to mobilize our forces to defend our lands. Finally, in regards to left-wing nations, our contact has been somewhat limited. We do, however, enjoy a fairly good international reputation.

We hope this answers your concerns.
Doujin
08-08-2004, 08:42
OOC: I'm impressed. Well done.
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 13:24
OOC: Oh WOW! :D I wonder how the Cruiser will go down...

IC:

We have been informaed that you are allies of Dyelli Beybi, a nation noted for pirate activities. While this does not constitute reason not to sell to you, it is worrisome. Is this the case? And if so what is the nature of said alliance?
Doujin
08-08-2004, 14:55
OOC: Oh WOW! :D I wonder how the Cruiser will go down...

IC:

We have been informaed that you are allies of Dyelli Beybi, a nation noted for pirate activities. While this does not constitute reason not to sell to you, it is worrisome. Is this the case? And if so what is the nature of said alliance?

OOC: I believe you mean by the FKC @ Vrak? I think that's like a whole nation type thing, they all = one entity by a constitution or something I dunno *shrug*
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 14:59
OOC: Ug. That complicates things a tad.
Doujin
08-08-2004, 15:12
OOC: Click Here DPUO (http://www.freewebs.com/klatchia/index.htm)
Sdaeriji
08-08-2004, 15:18
ooc: Before I go through the trouble of getting a nice RP request, can you tell me if you're just going to reject me?
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 15:32
Lemme check your nation. I'll need the same info as I ask for with Vrak. And if any of the conditions in the Act of 1978 apply then I probably ca'nt (unless I can get a special licence, which is a handy loophole :D)
Sdaeriji
08-08-2004, 15:33
ooc: Well the only one that I think I violate is the second one. My nation is very very far right wing.
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 15:41
OOC: Mmm. I can see that. I've not got a problem with that, so long as you don't impose it on others or attack onybody who doesn't attack you for it.
Vrak
08-08-2004, 15:45
OOC: Oh WOW! :D I wonder how the Cruiser will go down...

IC:

We have been informaed that you are allies of Dyelli Beybi, a nation noted for pirate activities. While this does not constitute reason not to see to you, it is worrisome. Is this the case? And if so what is the nature of said alliance?

To: DPUO Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: Re: Battleship

We have been referred to by the Military Procurement Division to continue this correspondence, since that division is responsible for procurement, and not diplomacy.

We, like Dyelli Beybi, are states within the FKC. Briefly, each state has a large degree of autonomy. This doesn't automatically mean that the actions of one state necessarily garner the approval of another.

For more information about the FKC, you are invited to peruse this document. We think that the constitutional section (specifically Article V) may answer your questions.

http://www.freewebs.com/klatchia/

OOC: It's the FKC website done by SW Benjia (formally Fasta Benj)
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 15:46
OOC: Sorry, gotta go, but odds are you're in :)
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 17:32
Very well. Following examination by the MoD of your regional constitution, sale of one Frunze-class Battleship has been approved. Production rights are possible; we would be happy to discuss them. Any comments, questions, feedback etc, do not hesistate to drop us a line!

Sdaeriji: Providing that we can be assured that no unwarranted aggression against Marxist states will be undertaken with the vessel, and that it will not be handed over, in whole or in part, to either Communist Mississippi or any member of the League of Empire Loyalists (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342125), at any time in the future, your order is also accepted.
DontPissUsOff
08-08-2004, 19:30
Bumpifying
Vrak
09-08-2004, 00:10
Very well. Following examination by the MoD of your regional constitution, sale of one Frunze-class Battleship has been approved. Production rights are possible; we would be happy to discuss them. Any comments, questions, feedback etc, do not hesistate to drop us a line!

To: DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: Battleship

Thank you. Consider the money transferred. As well, our military experts feel that it will take a bit of time to retrain some of our crews to use the Frunze class, although we don't think it will take too long since we are familiar with the equipment the Frunze uses. Would it be possible to send a team of trainers to speed up the process? We are willing to compensate you for your time.

In regards to production rights, perhaps you should spell out your terms first and then we can decide whether or not to secure them.
DontPissUsOff
09-08-2004, 00:24
A training team will be responsible for sailing the ship to you.
Vrak
13-08-2004, 00:40
The Frunze class battleship had an uneventful journey, considering the usual strife surrounding the FKC. A long range Guardian fleet met her off the coast of North Germania, and then was joined by two others as she drew closer to Vrak. As the battleship drew closer, her bulk could be seen even from miles off, exciting startled glances and then, once informed exactly what it was and whose side it was on, cheers.

====

-They still didn't let us know their policy on production rights.
-Well, contact them again.

To: DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: production rights re:Frunze class battleship

We thank you for the timely delivery of the battleship. However, there is still some unresolved business - that is, the details of production rights. We would like to negotiate this further with your office. Thank you.
DontPissUsOff
14-08-2004, 15:27
To: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
From: DPUO Foreign Office
Subject: BBN Production rights

Regrettably, until the tensions currently prevailing have passed, production rights to these vessels are not available. Any attempt to reverse-engineer the ship you have been provided with will result in legal action.

We regret that this is the case, and hope you are not offended in any way.

R.S.V.P.
DontPissUsOff
14-08-2004, 22:36
bump
Vrak
15-08-2004, 12:44
To: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
From: DPUO Foreign Office
Subject: BBN Production rights

Regrettably, until the tensions currently prevailing have passed, production rights to these vessels are not available. Any attempt to reverse-engineer the ship you have been provided with will result in legal action.

We regret that this is the case, and hope you are not offended in any way.

R.S.V.P.

To: DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: BBN Production rights

What tensions do you speak off? This is merely a business transaction between your nation and ours. Again, we stress that we have no association with Communist Mississippi nor plan to in the future.
Brydog
15-08-2004, 13:08
We would like 2 of these ships
Vrak
10-09-2004, 16:45
To:DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: Frunze-class production rights

Here is a tentative proposal for us to secure production rights for your marvelous product; the Frunze-class battleship.


1. A negotiated sum which will surrender full production rights of the Frunze-class battleship to the Vrakian government.

2. The Vrakian government, in turn, may authorize Vrakian companies to produce any and all ship components and related industries – once necessary security clearances have been met.

3. The Vrakian government will take all necessary measures to ensure that the Frunze-class battleship design and Frunze-class ships themselves will not aide the nation known as Communist Mississippi.

4. Collaboration between DPUO and Vrak in regards to exchange of information relating to Frunze battleship performance. Technical exchange is also encouraged.

5. Full access to any and all upgrades regarding Frunze design and improvements. This shall include Frunze design-related components such as but not limited to: armour, power plant, radar/ladar, sonar, missile systems, etc… However, propriety information regarding the design and manufacture of systems should be negotiated first. Otherwise, the sale of items can be substituted.
DontPissUsOff
12-09-2004, 20:11
This proposal we find wholly acceptable, with one exception: we would like to reserve the rights not to supply you with certain upgrade data for a time, if we feel it appropriate. This would apply only to crucial components such as reactors, radars etc.
Vrak
13-09-2004, 00:46
To:DPUO Foreign Office
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: Frunze-class production right

That will be fine. Perhaps some kind of delay period, such as 6 months? It would apply equally to you as well. All that needs to be negotiated now is the price.
DontPissUsOff
13-09-2004, 01:40
Agreed. Given what you have informed us or privately, we are prepared to offer you a full production contract for 50 billion dollars.

OOC: Did I suggest a price? I don't recall y'see. This is btw just 20x7 (billion) plus an extra 10 billion for my pocket. I'm unused to price-negotiating, so tell me if that's a bit silly or whatever.
Vrak
13-09-2004, 05:35
Agreed. Given what you have informed us or privately, we are prepared to offer you a full production contract for 50 billion dollars.

OOC: Did I suggest a price? I don't recall y'see. This is btw just 20x7 (billion) plus an extra 10 billion for my pocket. I'm unused to price-negotiating, so tell me if that's a bit silly or whatever.

OOC: No, you didn't. As well, since we secured production rights we assume that we can build as many as we want. I realize I said 20 before but that may change, most likely lower.

IC:

We agree. Due to the large sum of 50 billion, we would like to make installment payments over a period of 10 years.
Great Britain-
13-09-2004, 06:50
To: DPUO Foreign Office
From: British Foreign Office
Subject: Initial Purchase of Ships
We would like to purchase two Frunze class Battleships for the Royal Navy, as a total of 15 billion. Would it be possible to pay this amount over a series of months... eg this month 1 billion, next month 1 billion etc etc etc..
Legit Business
13-09-2004, 07:21
nuclear weapons are better they have a stronger deteriant and you get more bank for your buck using nuclear weapons and a policy of massive retillation is a better way to spend your money :sniper:
DontPissUsOff
15-09-2004, 22:48
Great Britain-: Your order is confirmed. Keels number 59 and 60 have been laid down for you; would you like to name the ships prior to launch?

Vrak: OOC: Righto, got it sorted.

IC: The payment plan proposed is perfectly fine; we're very hglad you want to build the ships!
DontPissUsOff
21-11-2004, 03:06
Bump - upgraded version coming soon!