NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: OK, me and Russian Forces have organised this so that its not too confusing, because basically it was an absolute mess with all the people involved, so for the war thread, we're actually trying to simplify it quiet a lot. Basically the thread is closed to anyone who isnt on the list so here gos.

Western Side: Austar Union
Bonstock

Eastern Side: Russian Forces
Unified Sith

The official map that will be used in this conflict will be found by clicking HERE (http://www.acm.edu/czech/europemap.jpg)

Austar Union is: Germany, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic
Russian Forces is: Russia, Ukraine

All posts made already will be listed below.

Let the Games Begin!

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General Anderson frowned as he read the reports. He never had the intention to invade Russian Forces. In fact the very reason he launched his first strike was to attempt to bring Russian Forces to the diplomatic table, showing that the Austar Union was not afraid of defending itself from foriegn invasion.

Apparently, both nations dont want war, and yet the Russians still press for conflict. Nevertheless, if there was conflict, the Austarian Military would fight it.

Standing in the dimly lit war-room, General Anderson examined the maps. The Svalbard Islands was expected to be attacked, but it wasnt strategically important in the war, therefore he would expect it to use its current defenses against attack. Nevertheless, he ordered a couple of battlegroups there.

His next step was to protect the Baltic Sea, and to prevent entry from Russian forces from that area. However the area was filled with Austarian Submarines, and it would be unwise for the Russians to send any form of Naval Fleet through the area. Any sea-force in the area would be instantly noticed and targeted, unless of course it was a neutral or allied fleet. Most of the Austarian Naval Power would be concentrated in the North Sea. That was the only area which would be expected to be attacked, and therefore needed to be defended.

There were other areas where the battlegroups would be positioned, but they weren't too important to mention as yet.

In the east of the Austar Union, in the Poland province, the military was preparing for some form of response from the Russians. Taking positions through-out the province, they blocked every major highway on the way to Warsaw and Zodz. Strangely, General Anderson decided to set the main line of defense in the south of Poland at the city of Krakow. Eastward from that city, only a few units and divisions were deployed.

In the meantime, in that area least defended between Krakow and the Russian Forces border, the Civil Defense Initiative was being activated.

All over the nation, conscription was being introduced. It would be a few weeks for it to be totally effective, however with the compulsory military service that exists within the national education program, it would be still an effective force.

General Anderson smiled as his plans were finalised, and the nation was ready for the response. He would not strike first, but wait for the Russians to attack him. War had not yet been declared, and he was hoping that the Russians would sue for peace instead of seeking war with the Austarians. Yet, if it came to war, the nation was ready.

After the mild attack on RF forces, a direct response has been made. Russian airplanes have taxied to the run ways, while tanks lined up for the attack and soldiers jump into the back of their APC's. The soldiers knew that war has come ever since the bombing of RF forces on the borders. Nothing can be done to stop the war, but the hopes of a quick war is the only consideration of the Russian people and its troops.

In the middle of the night a Russian Officer waits near a line of body bags from the attack, Angry and looking for revenge. He lights a Cuban Cigar to calm his nerves and watch the sky. A Soldiers sprints his way towards the officer and says" Comrade Commissar! We have been given orders directly from the Kremlin to invade AU. The code is NILREB (BACKWARDS FOR BERLIN)"
The Officer who tried to get a moment to calm his nerves now run to the the radio room, not far from where he was standing and messaged the soldiers. As he was running, the sky looked as if it has thousands of shooting stars coming down.

Currently these forces are attacking the land of AU

30 tank divisions
25 Motor Infantry divisions
4 airbourne divisions
8 Artillary divisions
12 independent artillary brigades (6 divisions equivalent)
10 surface to surface missile brigades
5 anti tank regiments
10 Surface to Air brigades

Meanwhile in the Ukraine/Poland Borders The Soviet forces put their military doctrine in practice. First came artillary fire from its 8 artillary divisions and 12 independent artillary brigades. No war has seen so much artillary in action at a single moment. Followed by the aggressive RF artillary tactics came 40 Tu-160's dispatched from Ukraine and Inland Russia, backed with 20 Su-27's and 15 Mig-35's to attack Front line AU divisions. All Interceptor aircraft have taken off to defend ground forces and key airfields plus positions. Russian tank forces and motor rifle divisions are being prepared to make the push.

The Train slowly moved to a halt, the vast cargo carriages extended off into the distance. This was only the first Sithian forces arriving, the huge merchant fleet extended across the Pacific, guarded by a contingent of the Jordaxian navy the Sith merchant fleet should have no trouble supplying their boys abroad.

As General Tyranus stepped of the first train he watched as Russian crews began to unload the tanks, artillery and planes. The huge fuel reserves necessary were already being stockpiled and the infantry divisions that arrived a few days earlier were already seeing to the defensives.

Forming their camps fifty miles behind the RF front lines the Sith forces were ready to plug a hole in any gap that could develop in the Russian forces.

The Sithian army was falling in for the night, the rows upon rows of black tents merged into the darkness of the Russian plains. The white armour of the Sith soldiers reflected the light of the few torches that were lit.

For this would be the only quite night they would have as tomorrow would bring war.

OOC: My Post Coming Soon

OOC:Strange, on the other thread it said that I was on your side.

Forces commited in the front so far:

7 million army soldiers
800,000 Air force personnel
2 million elite Red Guard
500,000 Navy personnel in Black sea

20,000 APC's

7000 BTR-80's
6000 BMP-2's
3000 BMP-3's
4000 BRDM's

20,000 MBT's
8000 T-72's
6000 T-80's
5000 T-90's
1000 Black Eagles

1,800 BMD 1/2/3 armored fighting vehicles for parachuting


3000 Aircraft

500 Mig-29's
500 Su-27's
400 Su-33's
200 Su-37's
500 Su-25's
80 Tu-160's
200 Tu-95's
300 Mig-31's
200 Su-47's
120 spy planes

3000 Choppers

1000 Mi-24's
600 Mi-35's
300 Mi-28's
500 Mi-17's
400 Mi-8's
200 Ka-50's

25,307 artillary/ anti aircraft

1,200 122mm M30
3,050 D30
200 130mm M54
1,075 152mm D20
1,100 2A36
750 2A65
40 203mm B4M towed
1,725 122mm 2S1
1,600 152mm 2S3
700 2S5
550 2S19
130 203mm 2S7 self-propelled
850 120mm 2S9. 2B16, 2S23 self propelled gun mortars
526 100mm T12/12A towed anti tank
1,800 120mm 2S12, PM38
430 240mm 2S4 self-propelled and towed mortars
1,750 122mm BM21, 9P138
675 220mm 9P140
106 300mm 9A52 multiple rocket launchers
6000 Shilka's
1,050 Tunguska's



6 space sattelites TOTAL BUT COMMITED

These Are RF Forces deployed so far, More would have been deployed but due to short notice of attack RF forces must act now.

These make up these divisions
40 tank divisions (15 tank crops)
45 motor rifle divisions (20 MR corps)
4 airbourne divisions
12 artillary divisions
18 independent artillary brigades (Half a division)
9 independent motor rifle brigades (Half a division)
3 airbourne brigades
7 special forces brigades
15 surface to surface missile brigades
5 anti tank brigades
3 anti tank regiments
19 surface to air missile brigades ( 2 with SA4, 4 with SA11, 1 with SA12, and 12 with SA6, SA8 and SA15)
9 attack helicopter regiments
6 assualt helicopter regiments
5 support helicopter regiments

Armored Division consists of:
360 MBT's
150 Infantry fighting vehicles
350 BTR's
120 self propelled artillary
40 122mm BM21 and 220mm 9P140 multiple rocket launchers
72 SA6, SA8, SA11 and SA15 self propelled surface to air missile systems.
80 Shilka's
30 Tunguska's

Motor Rifle Division consists of:
120 MBT's
120 Infantry fighting vehicles
450 APC"s
120 self propelled artillary
72 Self propelled surface to air missile systems.
60 Shilka's

Airbourne Division consists of:
240 BMD-1/2/3 airbourn fightign vehicles
90 Self propelled gun mortars.

Artillary Divisions consists of:
280 122mm and 152mm artillary
60 Mutiple Rocket launchers
90 2S9 self propelled gun mortars.

On the border currently (Ukraine and Poland):

30 tank divisions
25 Motor Infantry divisions
4 airbourne
8 Artillary
12 independent artillary brigades (6 divisions equivalent)
10 surface to surface missile brigades
5 anti tank regiments
10 Surface to Air brigades

The Rest are stationed deeper into the Ukraine

ooc: hmm... wasn't expecting a central role... what about Aust? and the dozens of others?

ic:

Bonstocknian forces:

Deployed to Auster Union territory:
Bonstocknian 8th Army, & 2nd, Tactical Air Force
4 Mechanized divisions, each with:
-150 Leapord IIS MBTs
-300 CV-90 IFVs
-75 Crusader artillery systems
-150 HEMMTT supply trucks
-3000 HMMWVs (not combat)
-15,000 men
8 Tactical Air wings:
4 with:
-60 A-10 Warthog
-5000 men
4 with:
-60 F-15C Eagle
-5000 men
8th Bonstocknian Field Support command:
various support brigades, including corps and army HQ, totalling approx. 100,000 men.

Total Bonstocknian deployment (Auster Union):
600 Leapord II
1200 CV-90
300 Crusader artillery
600 supply trucks
240 A-10
240 F-15
200,000 personnell

overall commander: Lieutenant Gen. Erick von Wiessland

Bontocknian Deployments, Bonstocknian protectorate of Sudan:

4 Stratgic bombing wings, each with:
30 B-1
30 KC-10

Various troops, mostly engaged in defense of Sudan against Communist Mississippi (no war, just detterant)

Overall commander: (forgot his name... I'll find it)

Bonstocknian deployment, Sakishima islands, or embarked near, earmarked for operation "Siberian Tiger":

Army Group "Varus" and associated naval and air support

Overall commander: Feld Marshal Albreict Varus

Bonstocknian deployment, Dr. Twist:

(Yet to materialize pending approval from Dr Twist government)

Composition: Army Group "Danube," and associated air and naval units.

Overall commander: General Karl Olafssen

Overall command of Bonstocknian forces:

Bonstocknian High Command, Port Yuko, Bonstock

Overall Commander: Harald, son of Gustav, lord of all Bonstocknians (concurrantly President, FRB)

Bonstock Closed Rp!

Bonstock Closed Rp!

[OOC: Well, since I'd committed naval forces to the beginning escalation, should I RP their withdrawal?]

Bonstock Closed Rp!



Western Side:
Austar Union
Bonstock

Eastern Side:
Russian Forces
Unified Sith

However, AU, if I'm gonna be in this war, I'd ask that Aust be allowed in to. My planned role was only to serve as a distraction to RF, attacking his far eastern possessions and perhaps the Ukraine. I would draw troops from the real conflict between you and RF in Poland/Belarus

LOL! Sorry Bonstock, I thought it said Aust.

I higly regret it that more than one RWC member is involved in this pointless conflict. Aust was planned to support Austar Union, only because they're allies. Bonstock's and Aust's role will be purely for defensive purposes. Offensive roles aren't suited for a defensive force. Russian Forces wants to attack, not us.

I would like to add that Bonstock has the full right to ask for more support.

However, AU, if I'm gonna be in this war, I'd ask that Aust be allowed in to. My planned role was only to serve as a distraction to RF, attacking his far eastern possessions and perhaps the Ukraine. I would draw troops from the real conflict between you and RF in Poland/Belarus

OOC: I wasnt planning to have your troops in Poland anyways, so you are welcome to act as just a distraction force. Im not expecting you to fight as a main force. But its up to you. :)

General Anderson,

I would consider it a great honor to be allowed to deploy troops in the defense of your Austar Union.

If I have your permission, I will deploy troops as soon as possible.

Kommandant-General Patrick O'Kelly

The Dr_Twist Government has said it once and will say it again, No Nations are allowed to Use Dr_Twist as any form of Staging post!

Unless you are Authorized by the Dr_Twist government you will not be allowed into the Nation.

The Dr_Twist Government has stated that it is neutral and will stay so until stated otherwise.

OOC: tag and MY MAPS BETTER!!!

OOC: So which thread is right this or the other. And now do you wish me to withdraw my 99 legions?

OOC: tag and MY MAPS BETTER!!!

I like the Map but can u make an Edited one where I Own Austria and Chezch Republic?

I like the Map but can u make an Edited one where I Own Austria and Chezch Republic?

in that one you own czech and pretty much all of austria, i thought that was a decent comprimise

OOC: I will state again that this is a closed RP. The existance of anyone elses forces will be officially ignored for the sake of this roleplay. This was an agreement between myself and Russian Forces that this is the way it was going to be. As for the map Huzen Hagen, I dont really recognise that as official, because Ive already got a picture of MY version of nationstates. Of course, I would actually recognise that other people have their own versions, but anyway... time for my IC response. PS: Can we not fill this with IC clutter. Some of you people have a habit of filling threads full of off topic rubbish. If you want to have an OOC conversation, go to GAMEPLAY. Sheesh.
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General Anderson sat quietly planning in his temporary office he set up in Krakow, when all of a sudden there was a knock at the door, and a man entered, reporting news;

"Sir the Russians have begun their offensive. They have started with an artillery bombardment, and they have sent a small bomber offensive into our airspace. We are now at war. What do you suggest we do?"

General Anderson thought for several moments;

"The Russians arent threatening our plans at the moment. Usually from studying their tactics, they will follow with a large armoured offensive. I want you to keep the main from all the way back here in Krakow, but bolster the defenses along all highways toward Warsaw and the northern part of Poland.

They will most likely take all the land between Krakow and the Ukraine border, but one of the best things I can suggest is that you prepare the civil defense in those areas. Activate it immediatly on a low level. It wont stop them, but it will slow them down."

Near the Ukrainian Border...

As the Russians bombarded the area with an offense of artillery, the soldiers in the area wondered exactly what the Russians were trying to achieve. It was standard procedure for the Austarians to have formations where they were broken up at the squad level, usually in groups of 15, and all moving independantly. And there wasnt nearly enough concentration for such an artillery to be effective, especially used this way.

Of course, there would be some deaths, but minor compared to what the Russians would be expecting. Most of the damage was being done to the landscape. Perhaps this was punishment to the Russians for not having a very good military intelligence system.

In the meantime, in the skies, three Raptor squadrons were patrolling the area, assigned when the nation was being prepared for war. There were more in the area, but over the radio, it was only these three which were addressed;

"Raptor Squadrons A, B, and C, please be advised of hostile aircraft entering airspace near Zeela Tu, appropriate security measures to be taken, all three squadrons to intercept the hostile aircraft and engage. ETA, Five Minutes. HQ Out."

With that, all (45) F-22 Raptor Fighters turned toward the area. It would only take five minutes for them to intercept the aircraft, which were already showing up on their screens. In lesser time, they would gain a visual.

...

On the ground, the soldiers from a little bit away targeted the enemy aircraft with the systems. Pressing the keys, several missiles were launched with fierocious power, and with enormous speed streamed toward the enemy aircraft, particularly the bombers. As the missiles closed into their targets, they locked on, and began to turn. Now chasing up from behind, they closed into the enemy bombers, every second gaining up on them. Surely the enemy would be fearing for their lives. These were quality missiles, and there were more than enough for every hostile aircraft which flew in that formation.

...

The Raptor Squadrons gained a visual, seeing that already there were anti-aircraft missiles chasing down the hostiles. Breaking formation, the (45) fighters picked their targets. There were more friendly aircraft nessasary. Thomas Joanad, one of the pilots chose a bomber to target. With his finger on the trigger, he waited for the green light to come on. Closing in with his target, his sensors finally locked on.

With instant reaction, Thomas hit the trigger, sending a missile forward, directly at the bomber. He wouldnt need luck.

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Losses: 514 Dead (From Artillery Attack)

*Tag*

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Jackson Military Base: Just West Of Warsaw
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General Higgens stood in the main control center at the base. One of the Commanders stood with him, explaining the situation;

"Sir, we have a very powerful defense out here at Jackson Base. We have all new equipment installed, including those new anti-aircraft batteries you ordered just last week. If the Russians wanted to attempt an attack on this base, they would lose their offense for sure. The only real way they possibly could is to overwhelm is with ground power, but even still sir, we have legions and divisions all the war from Warsaw to the Ukraine Border. Tactically sir, it would be suicidal for them to turn to us in the north.

Now in the south however sir, the closest military base is to the West of Krakow, and thats where the frontline is sir, so really, they are most likely to take that course of action, which would of course put all the fighting all the way back at Krakow with little resistance on the way..."

General Higgens seemed slightly shocked;

"You mean to tell me that we're going to lose all the ground to Krakow?"

The commander smiled;

"Most likely sir, that is of course if they take the route to the south. See, the area on the way is strategically unimportant to us. If they took Krakow however, it would be a disaster. Thats our Job. To protect Warsaw number one, and secondly to assist the divisions in Krakow, where if the Russians were smart enough, they would head straight there."

The General nodded. He understood everything that was happening;

"Commander, what were those weapons you told me about? Whats happening with them?"

The commander smiled again;

"They're being loaded on as we speak General. If the Russians come, we will be ready..."

Meanwhile in the air:

Tu-160 Pilot: "Incoming Missiles from unknown sources! Evasive Maneuvers now!"

As the missiles closed in the Tu-160's that were targeted deployed all counter measures available. They have stopped a few missiles but 2 Tu-160's were knocked down at the first missile strike.

Tu-160 Pilot: "We lost 2 Tu-160's, moving to 2000 km/h, lets quickly drop these bombs and get the hell out of here! We the hell are those fighters"?

20 Su-27's and 15 Mig-35's emerged from the clouds and turned on their after burners towards the Enemy interceptors. The Mig-35's which are the answer to the F-22 faced the F-22's head on and broke into formations as the SU-27's went towards the flanks.

Mig-15 Pilot: "Locked on target, Fire!"

Su-27 Pilot: "All pilots, we must keep close to the F-22's and try to out maneuver their planes. That is their weak spot. "

Tu-160: "Get them off our tail comrades! We can't drop these bombs properly if we are to stay at our highest speed!"

Mig-15 Pilot: "Roger that, we will try to distract them long enough to allow you the freedom to drop the bombs and get the hell out of here."

While the war was raging in the air, Russian airfields scramble 20 Su-37's to aid the Tu-160's.

The Battle for the Air Begins....

As for the Ground War

http://www.testforces.net/eng/medias/mod10/297/map1.jpg

The task forces in the offensive are split up into 3 forces. Each will conquer a selected task.

Task Forces:
Task force 1 (Named Red Might, positioned in the very north of Ukraine/poland)
Task force 2 (Named Red Hammer, in the middle of the Ukraine/Polish border)
Task Force 3 (Named Red Terror, In the bottom of Ukraine/polish border)

Task Force "Red Might" consists of
8 tank divisions
8 Motor Rifle divisions
3 Artillary divisions
4 independent artillary brigades
3 surface to air brigades

Task Force "Red Hammer" consists of
14 tank divisions
9 motor rifle divisions
2 artillary divisions
4 independent artillary brigades
4 surface to air brigades

Task Force "Red Terror" consists of
8 tank divisions
8 motor rifle divisions
3 artillary divisions
4 independent artillary brigades
3 surface to air brigades

Defensive role
10 surface to surface missile brigades
5 anti tank regiments

Task force "Red Might" will move towards Warsaw, as well as englufing all over towns and minor cities along the way. Then move to a halt when gets to near suburbs of warsaw.

Task Force "Red Hammer" is to make its way to lodz, then flank Krakow to surround it and destroy army groups protecting it.

Task Force "Red Terror" is to make its way towards Krakow and to take over all minor cities and towns along the way.

Spy sattelites now are looking for every tace of AU forces but what baffles the Russian High command is their retreat to Krakow and Warsaw to start a strong defensive perimeter. Vladimir Putin looks at one hole and that is the city of Lodz. "Uh HUH! Concentrate our forces for the center! That way we can separate his two armies and then flank them. I want artillary and bombers to hit the major cities of Warsaw and Krakow to surpress fire on the enemy as we advance. Send our interceptors to hit the enemy aircraft, Send every plane we have to protect the bombers at all costs".

A General then in the war room who was ex spetsnaz spoke up to Vladimir Putin. "How about we send our airbourne divisions and Spetsnaz on airfields and neighbouring cities"? Vladimir Putin looking surprised shouted out " That idea will definatly work! crush their air power with our airbourne divisions"!

Meanwhile
Near Russian Airfields Paratroopers are loaded onto Tu-95 aircraft with BMD armored vehicles and Mortars. 1 airbourne division is sent to the Warsaw Airport while another is sent to lodz airport to help the Red Hammer group get a better chance for victory.

Each Airbourne consists of:

Airbourne Division consists of:
240 BMD-1/2/3 airbourn fightign vehicles
90 Self propelled gun mortars.
with 4000 paratroopers

Nearly 300 Spetsnaz soldiers are placed in 2 Tu-95's and in a high altitude ment to parachute 150 each in the two main roads that lead from krakow and
Warsaw to Lodz to cut lines of supplies with methods of guerilla tactics.

As for the Ground forces

The 3 task forces begin to cross the border and destroy all enemy forces that will be encountered. All tanks leading the way have mine clearers in case if artillary hasn't detonated any possible mines in the sector. Following them Are BMP's and BRDM's with BTR's all packed with soldiers that are ready to clear house to house in the towns. All civilians armed will not be protected by geneva convention, they'll be terminated immediatly by swift force. Artillary still pound enemy towns and positions that are a possible threat.



OCC: To give you a fair idea what our Motor Rifle troops are armed with and how they would look here is a pic.

http://www.happyhobby.com/hobb_html/images/dml/8919583008.JPG

As the fighting is about to begin a Russian Officer runs to the war room with a folder full of notes.

He whispers to one of the generals ears. The general who was carefully listening looks in shock and tells everyone in the room that the AU are possibly going to use EMP weapons on our ground forces.

Vladimir Putin smashes the desk with his fist and spills his vodka on the table yelling out " I want sattelites to search all forms of super weapons and then send in our planes to knock them out. I assume We're unsure if the EMP will be like a mine or a cannon shell or what, but our forces must advance cautiously through the terrain."

Su-25's have been dispatched and are now flying along the border until they are told where the EMP targets are.

In the skies, Thomas kept complete control over the situation. A missile streamed toward him, and he released a flare, distracting the missile, banking his aircraft, he turned toward one of the bombers which was flying directly toward him. Now was a game of chicken. As both aircraft flew toward each other, he kept his finger on the trigger. Closer and Closer the two aircraft flew, when finally, he hit the button, sending a missile directly in the path of the incoming bomber. Now that the missile was closing into the bomber locked on, he pulled up and banked to the right, spotting an enemy fighter. Chasing it down, he was hot on its tail, when he fired with his gattling gun perfectly aimed.

All around him, his squadron were doing the same thing. So far one fighter had been lost.

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Jackson Military Base

A man burst into General Higgens office, "Sir, the Ground Offensive has begun. There are three main groups. One to Warsaw, one to Lodz, and one to Krakow..."

The General smiled, "Very Good, all is going as planned. How are the fighters doing?"

The man replied quickly, "Ready to Go Sir..."

"Very Good. Begin Operations in All Areas, I want you to activate the bombing stages on all enemy forces. We are to look after Warsaw and Lodz, Krakow Military Base will handle the southern army. Also, get me General Orlanas on the horn, he will come into play very soon... DISMISSED."

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On the airfields at Jackson Military Base, a horrendous amount of fighters were taking off, each armed with their special bombs. Thank God the Russians worked the way they did.....

In waves of 100, they would fly over to the northern armies, and drop their bombs, but first, they would have to get there.

On the Ground...On the Way to Warsaw and Lodz...

The soldiers were ready for the Russians who were trying to push them back and invade. They heard the rumbling from the enemy army, and as they prepared for battle, tank divisions rolled forward. This was a major front, and they werent going to let the enemy advance.

Robert Karston, one soldier gripped his rifle. He had much training over the years, and was ready to die for his country. On the hill, an enemy soldier appeared, looking just as fierce. Raising his rifle, he fired, and ran under cover. To his left, an enemy tank appeared. Another soldier from his squad appeared, and fired an anti-tank missile at it. All around him, the battle was fierce, and the ground was littered with both sides.

As his friends gathered around, they pushed forward into the slowing force, the battle fierce all around. BANG! He fired his rifle at the head of a soldier. BANG! He shot at another one... BANG BANG! He took a shot at a nearby soldier which hadnt yet noticed.

Above him, the Austarian Fighters roared forward in massive waves.

In the skies, above all enemy forces...(On the way to Warsaw, Lodz, and Krakow.

Henry Rogers was part of the first wave of fighters which would unleash their deadly payload upon the enemy. All around him, friendly pilots were flying, and dropping their payloads. As he flew, he searched over the battlefield for any concentrations of the enemy. Spotting the massive division of tanks, he and a large amount of fighters banked toward it. Lowing in altitude just slightly as he approached the enemy tanks, and dropped his payload of two CBU-97 Cluster Bombs. Other fighters were doing the same, unleashing the same weapons upon other divisions. In total, there would be some 800 CBU-97 Cluster Bombs dropped during the first wave.

In another part of the skies, Peter Hallen, another pilot had a slightly different payload. Directing his squadron toward an area of concentrated Russian soldiers. Now approaching the enemy soldiers below, they dropped their payload, the Fuel-Air Bomb. Filling the entire area with a deadly fireball, Peter was confident that many Russians would be killed as a result. Especially considering the fact that this was happening all over the battlefields.

OOC: Some OOC reading on the weapons I just dropped RF:
CBU-97: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/cbu-97.htm
Basically its a bomb with 40 submunitions inside of that. Each submunition actually searches for things like Tanks and is fired at hyperspeed speeds at the tank, rendering it literally destroyed. I have asked a few people exactly what kind of damages ONE of these cluster bombs would do, and it was estimated an average of 8 tanks would be destroyed per cluster bomb, already allowing for overlapping, failures ect. And in total across the battlefield I just dropped some 800 of them. Calculations say that something like 6400 Tanks should be destroyed, but im going to let you dictate your losses. Thats just what I based it on, what the actual calculations are.

Fuel-Air Bombs: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/fae.htm
Basically, I dropped a heckload of these things across the battlefield in any areas where your forces were concentrated. i didnt specify how many, but most likely around 800 like the other bombs. It basically works to suck up all the oxygen, leaving nothing to breathe for the soldiers, this would burst blood vessels, lungs etc, then anything surviving would be burnt in the flamed explosion that follows. See the animation here for what it looks like:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/faeanim.gif

Again your losses there are up to you, but if you wanna RP realistically, you should be taking MASSIVE losses as a result to that counter-attack, considering it was massive, using very effective weapons...[/size]

OCC: Do not forget the para drops and spetsnaz teams and such.

Anyway Aust can join in if he wants. He already has forces dployed in your nation as i have heard.

check this for some info on Russian tank armour

http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/EQP/kontakt5.html

ICC:

"Damn another Tu-160 is down!" The Soviet Mig-35 squad leader yelled.

As the raptors concentrated intercepting the Bombers, Russian Mig-35's and Su-27's move in and start locking their targets one by one. Since the Migs kept the raptors busy though now they lost 3, it gave Su-27's the easy ability to move in and lock on various air targets. The Tu-160's Were near their ground targets and slowed their speed down, ready to their bombs.

In the front lines, Soviet S-300 anti air missile launchers chose their targets carefully and fired a salvo of missiles upon enemy aircraft. The skies were lit up like if it was christmas as missiles soar at long distances.

While as for the ground...

A T-90 officer closely monitors the battlefield, choosing targets randomly. When he sees a tank, he fires Armour piercing rounds or up against heavy defences, he fires high explosive rounds. Joint up with 3 other tanks, they even fire upon cars, trucks, all sorts of civilian vehicles. Explosions are bursting everywhere so much that it is confusing the officers who is the enemy and who is a ally. The Officer then sees explosions all over the place as a plane passes by. The computer screens starts having distortion. The crew panicked as they hear thundering all over the place. He then used the radio and asked the squads status. Only 1 tank of his 3 comrades responded. Thank god for the Kontakt -5 ERA for it saved their lives.

Mi-28's advanced foward gunning down unsuspected infantry in the front and firing rockets towards enemy armour. Ka-50's flanked the front lines attacking
AU supplies to the front. BM21 rocket launchers fire endless slavo's of rockets upon enemy lines which were pointed out by tank crews and now the russians used their own fuel bombs from their TOS-220mm rocket launchers. Ground so far advanced from the border was 1 kilometer.

currently casualties were highly then expected and aproximately 467 tanks were knocked out and 385 apc's with 5000 soldiers dead or wounded. As a response to this, Every interceptor was sent in to attack every enemy aircraft in the area.

500 Mig-29's
500 Su-27's

OOC: Erm, losses a little low? I think 120 tanks only being destroyed would be a bit low. Read up on HOW MANY I DROPPED, I dropped 800. Approximately 8 Tanks will be destroyed EACH. Maybe a little adjustment is needed also, your few thousand men being destroyed is tiny compared to the attack I just made.

OOC: Erm, losses a little low? I think 120 tanks only being destroyed would be a bit low. Read up on HOW MANY I DROPPED, I dropped 800. Approximately 8 Tanks will be destroyed EACH. Maybe a little adjustment is needed also, your few thousand men being destroyed is tiny compared to the attack I just made.
correct. RF, you just dont get the magnitude of this attack. did you even read the links Austar provided?

Okay, so can I join or not? I've read that RF has no problem but do you AU. I don't want to get involved if theres any problem for each of you.

Okay, so can I join or not? I've read that RF has no problem but do you AU. I don't want to get involved if theres any problem for each of you.

OOC: Sorry, Id actually rather not. I dont mind where this is going, so all is well. :)

okay.

OCC: I don't know how many planes or whatever you have commited to the attack AU. I was waiting for you to post your military numbers. I want to see numbers. Im the one trying to make everyone understand the magnitude of my attacks. I ask for you to do the same.

120 tanks is alot of vehicles especially with ERA armour, and you forget i already had aircraft in the skies so bombing would be a little hard wouldn't you think? Tell me which force you are targeting, in which town or location. Because to be honest i don't know what you're doing.

I request you post your numbers.

OCC: I don't know how many planes or whatever you have commited to the attack AU. I was waiting for you to post your military numbers. I want to see numbers. Im the one trying to make everyone understand the magnitude of my attacks. I ask for you to do the same.

120 tanks is alot of vehicles especially with ERA armour, and you forget i already had aircraft in the skies so bombing would be a little hard wouldn't you think? Tell me which force you are targeting, in which town or location. Because to be honest i don't know what you're doing.

I request you post your numbers.

OOC: I dont post numbers because I dont numberwank. I prefer to leave out EXACT numbers just because its not that fun to read. In the meantime, I did say that it was being used on concentrations. As for the numbers of tanks, I really do think thats pretty small. Did you read the threads? The mini-bomb things are propelled at HYPERSONIC speed. Thats massive, and will break through almost any armour a tank has...

And as for bombing missions, you might wanna note that I did do that using fighters, not regular bombers so... Anyhow, you are welcome to engage them. After you post the proper losses.

OCC: I don't know how many planes or whatever you have commited to the attack AU. I was waiting for you to post your military numbers. I want to see numbers. Im the one trying to make everyone understand the magnitude of my attacks. I ask for you to do the same.

120 tanks is alot of vehicles especially with ERA armour, and you forget i already had aircraft in the skies so bombing would be a little hard wouldn't you think? Tell me which force you are targeting, in which town or location. Because to be honest i don't know what you're doing.

I request you post your numbers.
i suggest you go to FAS and watch the CBU animation. it decimates tanks regardless of armour.

OCC: It is not numberwanking. God is this a RP or some storywriting? I think i wasted my time posting numbers into divisions and amounts of forces. Anyway here is your favourable losses. Since your artillary is very affective and i just blow up clumps of dirt like if im shooting in the dark.

OCC: It is not numberwanking. God is this a RP or some storywriting? I think i wasted my time posting numbers into divisions and amounts of forces. Anyway here is your favourable losses. Since your artillary is very affective and i just blow up clumps of dirt like if im shooting in the dark.
posting long lists of numbers is numberwanking

The Sith forces now perfectly protected by a net of Sam launchers and Russian fighters, were not in the conflict yet. The Sith army had erected a huge tents (Three in total) which were eight hundred meters in diameter, a railway line extended from the main original Russian line to carry away certain things that the AU forces would be guessing at. (This applies for all the tents BTW)

The Sith army had a surprise waiting for the AU forces. How would they cope with a breech in their defensives and an enemy army seemingly emerging from no where.

As the day continued all work had been completed on the pit. It had taken 12,000 men to finish it within a day but it was done. The MOLE now being lowered into the huge pit via a compacted Earth ramp had just undergone its final systems check. For this war the military had commissioned a further twenty two MOLES however it would be doubtful if they would be completed in time.

The Sith tanks forces were now moving u p to the front to join their Russian comrades. The Sith tank core was exclusively the T-7 Gilgamesh which was by far one of the most superior tanks in the world. The A.U forces would pay for their unprovoked attack upon Russia, General Tyranus would see to it.

The mole now lowered into the earthen pit which was two hundred meters deep (approx) began to power up its systems. The heavy machinery at the surface was being withdrawn from the side of the pit to prevent a collapse. As the Mole powered up the air around seemed to shimmer due to the immense heat being generated, the MOLE was now moving. As it descended into the darkness of it’s newly formed tunnel the Sith forces leapt out a cheer for this was a momentous occasion, the first military deployment of the MOLE.

General Tyranus sat in his command tent looking over maps of the front when word reached him the A.U forces had commenced an attack once again on RF lines. Shaking his fist with rage, General Tyranus was now more angered than ever. “Send a communication to the RF forces that they will be receiving reinforcements shortly and that operation Moneypenny is a go ahead.”

On that note an ordered aide left the room to send the communication, as he exited he saw a most impressive site, thousands of tanks moving off, moving off to the front lines.

Meanwhile work was still continuing on airfields and underground supply dumps. Soon the Sith would be able to wage an effective air campaign. They had a nice surprise in store for the A.U forces.

OCC: Hmmm.... So its number wanking to show what forces i have on the scene, then to divide them into military divisions and brigades? Its more like organisation last time i heard it.

OOC: Erm, losses a little low? I think 120 tanks only being destroyed would be a bit low. Read up on HOW MANY I DROPPED, I dropped 800. Approximately 8 Tanks will be destroyed EACH. Maybe a little adjustment is needed also, your few thousand men being destroyed is tiny compared to the attack I just made.

OOC: Sorry to interrupt, but you seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions yourself:

1. His fighter cover was so weak you could drop more than 1600 bombs from fighter-bomber racks onto his forces.
2. His SAM cover was weak enough to line up for optimum attack runs.
3. ERA would have some effect against the weapon's submunitions, especially given their low mass; they might just be vaporized.
4. In an especially crowded battlefield, as this one, many will end up picking the same target, as they have no way to communicate to one another.

Hell, the site you reference to mentions that "Test results indicate that CBU-97 submunitions have a propensity to cluster and that impact patterns are unevenly distributed. This is contrary to the uniform distribution assumption employed in the Joint Munitions Effectiveness Manual (JMEM). Because of the clustering effect, it appears that JMEM overestimates damage and more weapons may be required to destroy the target then predicted."

While I agree that 120 tanks is too few, several thousand is far too many, especially given that are are probably not even that many tanks next to each other on any of the fronts. A couple hundred seems reasonable, maybe as many as a thousand, especially given that you gave him no chance to intercept your fighters whatsoever and have dismissed all of his artillery preparation with "I spread my guys out," despite the fact that historically artillery has caused the majority of casualities in the past couple of major wars.

EDIT: Where are you getting hypersonic from? Never is high projective velocity mentioned ONCE in the cited FAS document. Please keep in mind that "hypersonic" is the speed of the liquid air "jet" which results from a shaped charge explosive.

Task Force "Red Terror" consists of
8 tank divisions
8 motor rifle divisions
3 artillary divisions
4 independent artillary brigades
3 surface to air brigades


"General Wiessman, we have an entire Russian task forces moving fast towards us. Intel says 8 tank divisions and 8 motorized rifle divisions, suppoted by artillery and SAMs."

"Dig in dammit! What forces do we have avaliable?"

"At the front, we have some 4 mechanized divisions. We also have four more coming from Hamburg, where their equipment was disembarked. We're outnumbered four to one."

"God dammit, how are we ever gonna take the offensive here!"

"I don't know, sir."

Meanwhile, on the front, Bonstocknian troops were badly mauled by the preliminary artillery bombardment. Some 5500 were dead, and 254 tanks and 134 artillery pieces were put out of action, many beyond repair. The tanks and IFVs were dug into trenches, with only turrents showing, awaiting the offensive on the southern flank. It was quite an encouraging baptism of fire.

Meanwhile, the Bonstocknian Air Force took to the skies. All 480 of its F-15s started patrolling, immidiatly getting fired on by SAMs and MiGs. Nearly 100 were shot down quickly, though many ofthe pilots bailed out and made it safely to Bonstocknian lines.

Engineers quickly plant anti-tank and anti-personnel mines infront of Bonstocknian positions, preparing for the offensive. Reinforcements were on the way, but would take time. Speeding through the German and Polish countryside on trains, the Bonstocknian 6th Army, almost identical to the 8th, had almost no idea of what the battle to come would be like.

Meanwhile, because of the failure to gain bases in Dr Twist, Bonstocknian forces are forced to use Hamburg for their lines of communications, complicating thier logistics greatly. One hundred Bonstocknian cargo transports, escorted by 40 Zumwalt destroyers, in the Mediterranean quickly sailed over to the straits of Gibralter, to sail around France and Spain to their destination, Germany. Bonstocknian C-17 and C-141 cargo planes started transporting hundreds of thousands of Bonstocknian troops Hamburg, to await their equipment.

OCC: It is not numberwanking. God is this a RP or some storywriting? I think i wasted my time posting numbers into divisions and amounts of forces. Anyway here is your favourable losses. Since your artillary is very affective and i just blow up clumps of dirt like if im shooting in the dark.

OOC: Erm, I havent even used artillery yet. And numberwanking IS when you start going into details of numbers. I really dont get what your talking about. Given, I would understand that you dont have to do exactly the amount I project, but sheesh, if you dont actually take some proper losses, then im just going to have to ignore this whole war, because im not going to RP with someone who refuses to take proper losses. I mean, I did make my posts detailed enough that they were targeted at highly concentrated areas too.

AND I DID SPECIFY THAT THE NUMBER I GAVE INCLUDED OVERLAPS ETC. Ask any good RPer in the irc, such as 'TAR', or 'Emily_Anderson'. They will say that the bombs are very effective also. And they have been very effective in history too.

As for the artillery, I gave my reasons. And I made previous posts to back up my statements that that was the truth. Refeering it to past wars doesnt really help either, considering this wont be exactly like past wars...

OOC: Erm, I havent even used artillery yet. And numberwanking IS when you start going into details of numbers. I really dont get what your talking about. Given, I would understand that you dont have to do exactly the amount I project, but sheesh, if you dont actually take some proper losses, then im just going to have to ignore this whole war, because im not going to RP with someone who refuses to take proper losses. I mean, I did make my posts detailed enough that they were targeted at highly concentrated areas too.

AND I DID SPECIFY THAT THE NUMBER I GAVE INCLUDED OVERLAPS ETC. Ask any good RPer in the irc, such as 'TAR', or 'Emily_Anderson'. They will say that the bombs are very effective also. And they have been very effective in history too.

As for the artillery, I gave my reasons. And I made previous posts to back up my statements that that was the truth. Refeering it to past wars doesnt really help either, considering this wont be exactly like past wars...

OOC: ERA put on the top of a tank is very protective against submunitions. Submunitions can also miss, or his the turret, which is better protected then the rest of the top of the tank. His losses are fairly realistic, as you obviously only attacked his areas without air cover, and I assume thats not many places. You probably destroyed a number of tank companys, but its not like hundreds of tanks are in one place waiting to be bombed.

OCC: I don't understand AU. I changed the losses and he wants more? What does he want me to say? My 3 army groups are crippled beyond submission? AU you're the one making a bad move assuming that i'll have no AA, assuming i have no Interceptors ready when im attacking. Im not using god damn WW2 style tactics here.

Im not angry but you are making it unfair for me and for the RP. many agree.

OOC: ERA put on the top of a tank is very protective against submunitions.

OOC: Pardon my ignorance, I won't post again after this one, but isn't ERA a kind of one use armour seeing as it's designed on blowing up in a controled fashion to reduce the impact of the blow.

Because the armour has exploded after the first hit, say from a bomblet, after which it's pretty much useless. Whats more, most tank squadrons have infantry support (because if they don't enemy infantry own them) but if they have ERA armour there could be extra casualities to the infantry near by as the armour blows up... it's kinda a give and take armour.

In anycase, due to the amount of overlapping bomblets it and the fact that ERA is generally one use only it could prove less affective against an attack this size. Of course, I wouldn't know... I generally don't read on these things much...

Though I have to admit, now I read it again it looks like they [the tanks] were within his nation and as such would have had at least some AA defence given the fact they look like the tanks that were securing the border and not just some tank column going for AU. Meh, not worries now, both sides are happy.

OCC: Do not forget the para drops and spetsnaz teams and such.

Anyway Aust can join in if he wants. He already has forces dployed in your nation as i have heard.

check this for some info on Russian tank armour

http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/EQP/kontakt5.html

ICC:

"Damn another Tu-160 is down!" The Soviet Mig-35 squad leader yelled.

As the raptors concentrated intercepting the Bombers, Russian Mig-35's and Su-27's move in and start locking their targets one by one. Since the Migs kept the raptors busy though now they lost 3, it gave Su-27's the easy ability to move in and lock on various air targets. The Tu-160's Were near their ground targets and slowed their speed down, ready to their bombs.

In the front lines, Soviet S-300 anti air missile launchers chose their targets carefully and fired a salvo of missiles upon enemy aircraft. The skies were lit up like if it was christmas as missiles soar at long distances.

While as for the ground...

A T-90 officer closely monitors the battlefield, choosing targets randomly. When he sees a tank, he fires Armour piercing rounds or up against heavy defences, he fires high explosive rounds. Joint up with 3 other tanks, they even fire upon cars, trucks, all sorts of civilian vehicles. Explosions are bursting everywhere so much that it is confusing the officers who is the enemy and who is a ally. The Officer then sees explosions all over the place as a plane passes by. The computer screens starts having distortion. The crew panicked as they hear thundering all over the place. He then used the radio and asked the squads status. Only 1 tank of his 3 comrades responded. Thank god for the Kontakt -5 ERA for it saved their lives.

Mi-28's advanced foward gunning down unsuspected infantry in the front and firing rockets towards enemy armour. Ka-50's flanked the front lines attacking
AU supplies to the front. BM21 rocket launchers fire endless slavo's of rockets upon enemy lines which were pointed out by tank crews and now the russians used their own fuel bombs from their TOS-220mm rocket launchers. Ground so far advanced from the border was 1 kilometer.

currently casualties were highly then expected and aproximately 467 tanks were knocked out and 385 apc's with 5000 soldiers dead or wounded. As a response to this, Every interceptor was sent in to attack every enemy aircraft in the area.

500 Mig-29's
500 Su-27's

OOC: Apoligies, I didnt realise that you had amended the losses. I thought you were still arguing the opposite way :S

IC:

In the skies

As Thomas banked the fighter aircraft, his sensors gave immediate warnings of inbound missiles. Pointing behind him, the sensors gave clear direction. Pulling up and pulling drastic manoevers, he sighed as the missile passed just below him, but it was closer than ever. Signalling to another pilot, the other pilot launched countermeasures, as did most of the Raptors in the skies, providing at least some assistance.

Banking his aircraft once more, he signalled to all the others to fire immediatly on the bombers. All around him, the squadrons banked and started firing at the remaining bombers. At a slower speed, surely there was little the enemy could do.

Once they fired their missiles, they didnt bother to see what the results were before turning back on their fighter counterparts. With amazing manoeverability, and amazing systems on board the fighter, they hoped it would be a quick air-battle.

Other fighters in the sky had noticed the enemy transport craft, good for parachuting. Banking towards them, they trained their sensors until they were locked on. As they closed into their targets, they fired their missiles at the last minute, and banked upwards, not bothering to see what the results were.

In the meantime, they had recieved word that a massive amount of aircraft had been deployed, and were to assist in the air campaign.

On the ground...

The ground would be stained with blood before the battle was over. Already, both sides were taking large losses. This would be a war to end all wars. One which would guarentee peace between the Russians and the Austarians, no matter the result.

Austarian Soldiers were fierce in battle, not wasting one opportunity to kill the enemy. They had been trained so carefully, that they had little fear, even when the battle was most fierce.

Digging hard into the soil, they pushed back on the enemy. With the taste of blood, they only grew more fierce, more deadly to those they wanted to kill. If they wanted to kill somebody, they would. In squads of 15, they moved forward into enemy lines. Explosions could be heard all over the place...

Missiles, bullets, bombs, rained hell upon the enemy. This would be a massive counter-attack to the enemy forces, one which would hopefully push them right back across the border.

One step forward, was one step closer to freedom... This had been installed into the soldiers since the beginning. And so they took big steps.

In the backlines, some 200 km away, the soldiers were preparing an artillery response. Aiming so that the artillery would hit areas where the Russians were most concentrated, all at once, a few thousand artilley units fired. As the shells disappeared into the distance, the soldiers smiled. This would certainly help push the momentum of the war the opposite way, back into the Ukraine.

In the meantime, the Eastern Army Generals had word that reinforcement was on its way. The Southern Army had been reported to be fierce in battle. Some had rumoured them to be unstoppable, godly like.... And they would help push back into the east...

Back at Jackson Military Base...

General Higgens was reading the maps when the man burst in again;

"Sir, our troops have begun a massive counter-offensive. Reports are that enemy losses would be huge, though we dont have exact numbers of projections. We have another army coming in from behind to help the Eastern Army. Surely at the current pace of battle, the new addition will be pushing strongly, adding another arm to the giant arm wrestle which is taking place..."

The General smiled;

"Very Good. Help our brothers. I want you to make some missile strikes against the enemy positions..."

Just a few minutes later, a loud rumbling noise could be heard as literally thousands of conventional missiles took off, heading straight toward areas where enemy troops were most concentrated. If the bullets, bombs, air to ground missiles, and artillery shells werent enough, this would surely tip the scales...

OOC: Sorry, I had to rush this post. Ill leave your projections up to you. :)

OCC: Major arse question... What about your losses?

ICC: Air Campaign

Though Several bombers were lost, The Tu-160's managed to reach their targets which are huge concentrations of AU ground forces. Though Russian fighters are keeping the Raptors busy, still some Raptors stayed on course to remove the Tu-160 threat. As much as the ground seems to be having balls of fire exploding everywhere it seems the air is littered with the same amount of firepower and explosions. The Tu-160's slowed down and opened their bombing bays. Then a sound of bombs dropping removed all other sounds. Below, Dirt and mud flew 10 metres high from every impact. Hopefully this bombing raid would make it easier for Russian ground forces. The Tu-160's now have an unsettling task of going home.

To assist the Aircraft, S-300 anti air rocket launchers were deployed and together dozens of radar sites transmitting exactly at the same time on exactly the same frequency managed to pick up the raptors. Missiles were fired to add to the fireworks in the air.

However so far plenty of Russian Aircraft were knocked down… more fighters than bombers. Right now the skies have every Russian fighter from its arsenal in the front. Bombing campaigns now obviously will be extremely hard for both sides right now.

For the Tu-95 bears that’s are sending the airbourne divisions… few have been shot down which would cost the lives of hundreds of paratroopers but they have managed to reach the airfields in Warsaw and Lodz.

As the hatch of one of the planes open… a Russian soldier says “Welcome to Poland all! You know what we have to do! Destroy every aircraft you can find and hold your position until main forces arrive. Good luck comrades!” Soldiers and BMD armored vehicles started pouring out of the planes and the sky was littered with parachutes.

The GROUND WAR
Despite the losses the Russian forces have taken, they are able to push on. Seeing the Bombings taken place on AU forces strengthens the morale of the Russian troops. Sadly for RF’s enemies, When one tank blows up it seems another 10 appear out of no where, Bursting into the scene with their 125mm cannons randomly firing at enemy forces. TOS-220 missiles that explode into fireballs start raining upon troops concentrations that are directed by many RF commissars. The Red Terror and Red Might are not advancing far at all but for Red Hammer, Due to greater amount of forces and lower AU activity since most are committed in Krakow and Warsaw, Red Hammer are managing to push more deeper towards Lodz. Lublin and Rzesnow are under huge threat, And soon Russian Forces plan to encircle them and then take them by force. AU forces managed to kill another 3000 Russian soldiers and 142 tanks as well as 80 APC’s.

Bonstockian troops not so many compared to AU forces but have managed to keep on putting up a heavy fight against the Russians. They have managed to destroy 134 tanks and 167 APC’s. At the rate things are going, Bonstock forces will have to pull back but their aircraft are hindering Russian efforts of gaining air power.

Russian Mi-24 hinds and Mi-28 Havocs rush to the seen to help their fallen comrades and ambush enemy infantry and vehicles. From above they directed Artillary strikes for the 120mm cannons.

Spetsnaz forces managed to take positions on major roads and place mines and explosives on them to ambush AU supplies. Their first kills was a convoy of munition trucks. Unaware of what was ahead of them, they drove into the mines. Survivors in the very back of the convoy tried to abandon their trucks but as they did, Spetsnaz soldiers with their VSS’s and Bisons mowed them down. The Spetsnaz soldiers quickly ran out of the scene after they placed booby traps on the dead AU soldiers.


Vladimir Putin sits on his desk looking at the big monitor screen of troops placements as well as some camera footage of the warzone. His Generals are running around the place discussing with their intelligence officers and speaking to the Commissars in the battle from phone. Putin then says “at the rate this is going, it might become just a war of attrition if we keep it up but hopefully our progress will fasten as our forces press on. Glad to see our ally Unified Sith will change all of this very soon.”

I have work but expect a very very large attack from me today. Bwahhahahahahahahahhaha!

OOC: Sorry, I was in a rush and forgot, but here ye go:
2 F-22 Raptors
12 Challenger Two Tanks
4031 Soldiers
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I will post a response to the later attack soon. I dont have much time right now. The losses above were for the attack you did previously.

"General Wiessman, sir, we have a transmission from High Command. You are only to recieve replacements for the men wounded and killed. Further troops are being diverted to Sudan or Taiwan to defend against possible attacks against Communist Mississippi and Sino, respectively."

"What the hell? We're at war! We can't do that! I'm lossing more men then I can replace anyway."

"It says here we're eldgable for first priority in replacements."

Wiessman shuttered. Bonstocknian replacements were notoriously ill trained, at least compared to the combat veteras they were now serving with.

"But, it also says here, sir, that if we need it, the Bonstocknian 6th and 9th Airborne Divisions are open for your command."

This delighted Wiessman. The 6th and 9th Airborne were perhaps the most elite units in the Bonstocknian Army. They were the elite of Bonstocknian "parachute rangers" and had extensive training. Moreover, unlike the conscript majority, they were all volunteers. Moreover, Wiessman was once in the 9th Airborne, as a lowly 2nd Lieutenant during the Japann invasion and the invasion of _Taiwan.

"Anyway, sir, the Russians have been held up by stout Bonstocknian resistance, so far. Task Force Red Terror, who intel says we're up against, is being held up by our defensive line. However, despite the fact that they're taking heavy losses, we're taking losses we might not be able to replace."

"How many replacements can we fly in?"

"I think we can fly in about 5,000 men, aboard mybe 50 transports, if we can get them. High Command might be apprehensive, because it will divert troops from the Sudan sector."

"Well, god dammit, what do I have to do for more replacements?"

"I don't know."

"Well, tell the troops at the front to hold fast. I'm not sure how many more casualties we can take."

Rumors spread around the trenches about possibilities of the 6th and 9th Airborne Divisions coming to the theater, boosting the morale of the troops considerably. Other then that, there was mud, there was blood, there was sweat, and there was Russia. News of Russian paratroops really put moral low. Russian bombers carpet bombed Bonstocknian posistions, with more devastating effect, though it would have been worse had the Bonstocknians not been in trenches. Some 1,000 were killed, another 40 tanks disabled, along with 80 CV-90s and a number of artillery pieces.

Replacements came on C-17s by night, marching to the front by morning, and brought Bonstocknian forces up to full strength. But when morning came, rght out of the sun came the Russian helicopters. Bonstocknian crews got their Stinger missiles out, and started firing at the helicopters, but 30 front line tanks and 60 IFVs were disabled, and the helicopers and artillery killed at least 500 men before Bonstocknian F-15s got off the ground and started shooting at the helicopters and patrolling MiGs, again lossing 67 of their own in the effort. But these pilots, some of them shot down for the second time, were starting to get better at flying combat. Two shootdowns gets a pilot much more experience.

Then came something of a godsent to Bonstocknian troops: all 300 Crusader artillery pieces, including many replacements, opened up on the Russian tanks. Lobbing each some 10 shells a minute, the barrage lasted perhaps an hour. Bonstocknian troops were almost overwhelmed with joy.

And then Bonstocknian A-10 Warthogs, 480 of them, flew from their bases to Russian lines. With F-15s warding off MiGs, the A-10s prowled over the Russian tanks, firing their 30mm guns at them, launching anti-tank Hellfire missiles at them, and dropping bombs all over the place. They were, however, battered by plentiful Russian air-defenses. Several of them lost engines, and had to limp back home. At least 60 were forced to glide over to Bonstocknian lines or bale out, and try to reach friendly lines. But Russian tanks could feel the power, and the sight of the Warthogs proved an invaluable morale booster.

General Tyranus sat back in his chair, looking at the map of RF and AU forces. The vast lines outsized his army by ten fold however that would not be necessary as his army would soon do a lot more damage than a mere tank attack. The electronic screen in front of him showed the deployment of his and RF forces as well as the sketchy intel reports of assumed AU positions.

The airfields were now up and running and the Sith army had a full contingent of 1500 Xirath fighters in the air at all times insuring that no enemy bombing runs would reach the Sith positions. The vast tank army assembled now reaching in excess of 14,000 Gilgamesh tanks were in formation scattered about the battlefield incase the AU foe decided to launch a large attack, though they were out of artillery range. The Sith generals were no fools.

The large tents within the Sith army would now be heavily looked upon by AU intelligence, not for simply being there but for the simple reason that hundreds of tanks were entering them and disappearing. However that was a mystery that the enemy were about to find out.

The sith artillery was now starting to be set up, though they lacked the smaller more accurate weapons the Sith forward lines had a more powerful artillery piece. The Holy Panooly designed Hellion gun.

Gun Specifications
Effective range: 40 km
Max. elevation: 55°
Total weight 1000 tons
Barrel weight: 300 tons including 80 tons breach block & ring
Overall length: 32 m
Width: 6 m
Height 12 m
Barrel lenght: 28 m (40 times its caliber)
Shell type Armor: capped 3.75 meter shell (without propellant casing)
Shell Weight: 7000 kg

Fifty of these vast railguns opened fire under the order of General Tyranus himself. The armoured regiments with infantry support moved forward to engage the AU forces defending the city of Liblin

125 meters underneath Warsaw.

The Mole had been proceeding for some time now, the fertile and crumbly soil of the Polish landscape made for excellent timing. The solid glass tunnel that it left behind would not last for long as it reached its primary coordinates.

General Tyranus still looking at the map, now transfixed on the blinking dots was abruptly interrupted by his trusted lieutenant. “General, Mole 1 is now in position, the main attack has started for the drive to Lublin. We have currently half the tank core and our entire air presence with infantry support committed to the attack. Our forces will soon merge with the RF ones momentarily.”

“Excellent, oh and by the way. Detonate Mole 1. this come from Moscow itself. They will assume responsibility for its destruction and its reconstruction. Transmit the signal immediately.”

With those last orders Lieutenant Markold left the command tent and entered the communications bunker. All he said at the front door was “Detonate Mole 1”

Mole1 was now 135 meters underneath Warsaw. The Seismic activity generated by the Mole would be almost undetectable due to the vast amounts created by the Artillery and tanks regiments. As the Code to detonate moved towards the mole, General Tyranus had just sealed the lives of thousands if not millions.

The thermo nuclear device that only ranged a couple of mega tonnes activated and within a nano-second detonated. The Mole detonating in the centre of Warsaw caused the Polish capital to effectively jump up by ten feet into the air. Then after a mere blink of an eye the primary shockwave hit causing Warsaw to be blasted into the air. Civilians, Military personnel flung into the still Polish atmosphere. Thousands of tonnes of earth flying about everywhere. Warsaw would be completely destroyed as would almost everything in a 50kn radius. Thousands of AU troops would be buried alive. The emanating shockwave would throw tanks and people into the air even through they would not be directly affected by the blast. The sound of the explosion would be heard in France, Moscow and Berlin. Some of the unfortunate troops would be made deaf by the sheer ferocity of the sound wave.

Meanwhile the Sith advance had begun. 6,000 tanks along with infantry/artillery/air support began to move towards the AU lines defending Liblin that would now be in complete disarray from the Devil like explosion.

The Sith were now moving for total victory.

OOC: Losses:
654 000 Civillian (Warsaw)
26 000 Troops
354 Challenger 2
124 F-22 Raptor Aircraft
--------------------------------------------

President James Madison frowned in dismay as he heard of the news from Warsaw. It seemed as if the enemy had used a thermo-nuclear weapon on one of the Austarian Cities. News from the frontline was that it was holding well, but to make an advance back into enemy territory, they would need to make some changes to the battlefield. President Madison prepared himself as he walked out to a press conference;

"People of the world. It is a grave day, when a nation initiates nuclear exchange. We highly condemn the Sith People for committing such an autrocity against our people, for bringing the war to a complete new level. The familes of those killed suffer. And for that, they will recieve their revenge against the enemy forces. I am hearby authorising the use of the nuclear program, details given to our force commanders. I warn the Sith Armies, and the Russian Armies; this is a response to the Sith tactical nuking of our city. We shall make one strike, against enemy forces personell, and not your cities. If you wish to limit this nuclear exchange, do not make a nuclear response to this counter. We urge you to not respond with a nuclear weapon, for it would only result in another response for us.

I am also giving full authorisation to the military commanders to use the AXACKAL MANOEVER. This will become a standard of a large war such as this, and was found to be highly effective against the troops of Allanea. That will be all. Good Day..."

....

In a joint meeting of Generals, they discussed their next moves. General Falkner stood up to the podium;

"Generals of the Union. It is today which we must respond to this evil act of terror. I have ordered most facilities of the Union to commence what I have named, Operation Carpet-Strike. This will be the single largest attack we have made in history. I project, that after this strike has finished, the Russian and Sith Armies will become almost non-existant. This will be the most costley attack in dollars we have ever made. Our last record was those in Allanea, killing a total of 1.6 Million of their soldiers. Now it is time to set the new records, and to make an attack approximatly TEN times as powerful. I estimate Russian losses to be extraordinary, most likely desolating their entire offensive force. There is no counter to this attack friends. There is little they can do but to die..."

With that, all the Generals in the room began to notify their forces. At once, defenses across the nation began to come alive. In several minutes, some fifty thousand cruise missiles would be pounding enemy forces at their concentrations. These cruise missiles would be carrying a tactical nuclear warhead, at 0.1 kilotons per missile.

Just a minute or two later, all 20 000 Rocket Launchers, and all 30 000 Artillery pieces would commence firing a total of 240 000 Mini-Missiles, and 60 000 Artilley Shells at enemy forces left after the tactical nuking.

Once that would be nearing its end, a further 50 000 Cruise Missiles would be targeting any enemy forces left after the tactical nuking and artillery and rocket bombardment, but this time the missiles were tipped with conventional warheads.

Estimates would put the enemy losses at massive, desolating any forces they have in the areas. An attack like this had been carried out in the past, and had resulted in the death of millions of enemy soldiers. The only difference was, this attack could be considered as ten times the size.

OCC: Ouch this is getting messy. I mean real messy.

ICC: TOTAL LOSSES SO FAR, EVEN THE AU ATTACK

1,400 MBT's
876 APC's
56,871 soldiers
248 planes

A Soviet General looks at his radar screen, Seeing that victory will come eventually as enemy lines are getting thiner. He then calls in the next army that was awaiting in the Ukraine backed by the Soviet Elite Red Guards to move to the border and when ready to join up with the 3 army groups that are pushing on. "This wave will hopefully push the war out of attrition and send our forces rolling towards Germany" he says, as he looks at the radar screen. Then he says some red dots appearing all over the screen. "Holy Shit, Get those S-300's ready and blast those frickin cruise missiles down"!!!! A officer worriedly replies " There are too many of them, We must try to knock down as many as we can"! Tell Our Forces to enter the AU civilian towns and use their civilians as cover!" The Generals yells out!

Meanwhile before the Russian Forces realised what was coming for them bonstock forces have been holding back the Red Terror battlegroup. As Havocs drop in mercilessly, many squadrons had to pull back since they were getting picked off one by one by Bonstock stingers and aircraft. However Soviet Mig-29's jumped into the scene intercepting the enemy aircraft, backed by Su-37's. Despite the havoc losses, it gave the russian ground forces a chance to press on and gain more lands as bonstockian survivors did what they can to hold the Russians, despite the lack of reinforcements, however the A-10's made it hard for them, the sight of them scared the russians. It appears the road to Krakow is softening up. Russian APC's had microphones and propaganda broadcasts to the Bonstockian Forces on the front : "Surrender Bonstockian GI's, this is not your war. Give up your arms and we will ensure you will be properly treated under the geneva convention and send you back to your families".

As the paratroopers landed near the airfields, the sky littered with bullets as AU machine gunners try to pick off the soldiers going down. Many paratroopers were killed before they landed but whent he BMD's came down, it all changed. The BMD's moved in and smashed into the gates of the airfield and killed the airforce personnel. Paratroopers ran into the hangers, placing C4 on the planes and blowing them up. Now the paratroopers had to sit and wait to be relieved by the main forces. This could possibly cripple AU air power in the polish district.

As for the AU attack.... S-300's sent many of the AU missiles down but dispite their accuracy, what was left of them hit the Russians hard, destroying tanks, Apc's and Soldier concentrations. This one attack managed to cripple several divisions and are forced not to advance no longer. Especially Divisions heading towards the Remains of Warsaw. The Generals decided to send in the reseve forces of 5 divisions in the Ukraine to back up the crippled groups.

OCC:
You may ask why many Cruise missiles are downed, well look at this. The almighty S-300

http://www.wonderland.org.nz/nw/clamshell_radar.htm

OCC: Ouch this is getting messy. I mean real messy.

ICC: TOTAL LOSSES SO FAR, EVEN THE AU ATTACK

1,400 MBT's
876 APC's
56,871 soldiers
248 planes
<snip>

it wouldnt be that effective :D

OCC: I have so many tanks, so i don't care too much about losses. This amount of damage is enough to destroy 4 armoured divisions and i have like 30 something out there.

OCC: I have so many tanks, so i don't care too much about losses. This amount of damage is enough to destroy 4 armoured divisions and i have like 30 something out there.

OOC: Bullshit RF, you shot down THAT many missiles? Adjust your losses. I wouldnt accept anything less than 80% of your forces desolated... I mean, that was armageddon. Im not going to ask twice, nor am I gonna argue. Adjust your losses to something more realistic, or I will instant ignore you... I dont like to ignore, and there currently is only one nation on that list, dont make me add another.

OCC: You are telling me to lose almost all of my forces in Eastern Europe to pety cruise missiles and such? Are you telling me to let you be able to invade moscow like that? I tell you what, you're expecting me to let you godmod. I lost alot of vehicles and soldiers and Athiest agrees. You are asking too much. Yet you do not respond to my special attack maneuvers, Paradrops, Carpet bombings, Tank thrusts and spetsnaz forces. Its all I CRUISE MISSILE YOU, OWNZ!!!!!

Here is a strategy for ya, Don't put all your eggs in one basket and S-300's can knock plenty of missiles down.

I honestly see nothing wrong with my RP as it is detailed, organised and has a lot of thought to it while yours is story writing, Not an RP. You can't respond to what i do which seems biased.

Anyway, you won't be ignoring me, I'll be ignoring you.

OCC: Besides, If all those missiles and artillary pieces blow the crap out of my army, i wonder what my Artillary was doing all this time? Please mate... you are full of it. Whats very funny is that you only lost 12 tanks compared to my 1,400. You are basically saying that this attack will end the RP.

OCC: You are telling me to lose almost all of my forces in Eastern Europe to pety cruise missiles and such? Are you telling me to let you be able to invade moscow like that? I tell you what, you're expecting me to let you godmod. I lost alot of vehicles and soldiers and Athiest agrees. You are asking too much. Yet you do not respond to my special attack maneuvers, Paradrops, Carpet bombings, Tank thrusts and spetsnaz forces. Its all I CRUISE MISSILE YOU, OWNZ!!!!!

Here is a strategy for ya, Don't put all your eggs in one basket and S-300's can knock plenty of missiles down.

I honestly see nothing wrong with my RP as it is detailed, organised and has a lot of thought to it while yours is story writing, Not an RP. You can't respond to what i do which seems biased.

Anyway, you won't be ignoring me, I'll be ignoring you.

OOC: Im not even going to bother argueing simple facts with you about my posts and this war.

IC:

For some mysterious reason, all over the Austar Union, the memories of the Russian Forces have been erased, and all recognition of such a country has been removed... In fact, what the heck am I talking about? What is a Russian Forces?

- Austarian News Reporter

The Red flag is planted on the reichstag in Berlin. Russian soldiers rape and pillage the AU scumbags and throw their babies off the roofs of buildings. Vladimir Putin smoked a cuban cigar saying i love the smell of dead Austarians in the morning.

ZI END!

OCC: it was a waste of my time but thanks for the free land.

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S-300 isn't nearly effective as S-400 at downing cruisemissiles, and if Austar Union is using terrain skimmers then your S-300's are useless. Your not even using S-300PMU's.

As bad as RF's reputation is...

Please, someone show me the nation that wouldn't wank away an all out 'you're dead, because my very many very erect and very hard missiles kill y000!' attack in the Austar Union style.

I, for one, would.

And seriously, first starting a conflict, then staging such an attack that is basically an invitation for ignore, is very, very poor style.

AU is defeated. Period.

OOC: Losses:
654 000 Civillian (Warsaw)
26 000 Troops
354 Challenger 2
124 F-22 Raptor Aircraft
--------------------------------------------

President James Madison frowned in dismay as he heard of the news from Warsaw. It seemed as if the enemy had used a thermo-nuclear weapon on one of the Austarian Cities. News from the frontline was that it was holding well, but to make an advance back into enemy territory, they would need to make some changes to the battlefield. President Madison prepared himself as he walked out to a press conference;

"People of the world. It is a grave day, when a nation initiates nuclear exchange. We highly condemn the Sith People for committing such an autrocity against our people, for bringing the war to a complete new level. The familes of those killed suffer. And for that, they will recieve their revenge against the enemy forces. I am hearby authorising the use of the nuclear program, details given to our force commanders. I warn the Sith Armies, and the Russian Armies; this is a response to the Sith tactical nuking of our city. We shall make one strike, against enemy forces personell, and not your cities. If you wish to limit this nuclear exchange, do not make a nuclear response to this counter. We urge you to not respond with a nuclear weapon, for it would only result in another response for us.

I am also giving full authorisation to the military commanders to use the AXACKAL MANOEVER. This will become a standard of a large war such as this, and was found to be highly effective against the troops of Allanea. That will be all. Good Day..."

....

In a joint meeting of Generals, they discussed their next moves. General Falkner stood up to the podium;

"Generals of the Union. It is today which we must respond to this evil act of terror. I have ordered most facilities of the Union to commence what I have named, Operation Carpet-Strike. This will be the single largest attack we have made in history. I project, that after this strike has finished, the Russian and Sith Armies will become almost non-existant. This will be the most costley attack in dollars we have ever made. Our last record was those in Allanea, killing a total of 1.6 Million of their soldiers. Now it is time to set the new records, and to make an attack approximatly TEN times as powerful. I estimate Russian losses to be extraordinary, most likely desolating their entire offensive force. There is no counter to this attack friends. There is little they can do but to die..."

With that, all the Generals in the room began to notify their forces. At once, defenses across the nation began to come alive. In several minutes, some fifty thousand cruise missiles would be pounding enemy forces at their concentrations. These cruise missiles would be carrying a tactical nuclear warhead, at 0.1 kilotons per missile.

Just a minute or two later, all 20 000 Rocket Launchers, and all 30 000 Artillery pieces would commence firing a total of 240 000 Mini-Missiles, and 60 000 Artilley Shells at enemy forces left after the tactical nuking.

Once that would be nearing its end, a further 50 000 Cruise Missiles would be targeting any enemy forces left after the tactical nuking and artillery and rocket bombardment, but this time the missiles were tipped with conventional warheads.

Estimates would put the enemy losses at massive, desolating any forces they have in the areas. An attack like this had been carried out in the past, and had resulted in the death of millions of enemy soldiers. The only difference was, this attack could be considered as ten times the size.

I know you two already ignored each other, but this really was a godmode attack. First off, you posted your artillery being 200km away before. Pretty much no artillery, rocket or shell, can reach that far. The paris gun was barely 75 miles. If you moved them up, ok, but I fail to see how many mobile artillery pieces you could get to the border(as russian forces was bombing and artillerying, and straight out attacking all your statics), give them tens of thousands of nuclear shells, and fire them at all known russian forces positions?

Very improbable.

Nuclear shells would be very expensive, and I doubt you would regularly have that many artillery shells rigged for that normally. They also usually would ride around at the front waiting to be fired.

For the cruise missiles, since RF has been bombing your static emplacements, the includes land based missile launchers. While he obviously wouldnt have gotten them all by then, you would defidentally have a diminished capability there. You could still launch all those missiles, but over time. Seeing as they would have to come in waves, he could shoot down each wave and wait for the next.

His losses are justified for what little nuclear artillery you would have been able to bring to the front and target his divisions with.

OOC: Meh, an ignore is an ignore no matter why it's done. Assuming he sticks to it I don't see why people should harp on the matter unless they too want to explain why they are ignoring Austar Union.

Given that I doubt this war will continue, I think I'm going to read other threads and unsubscribe to this.

OOC: WTF AU come on, launching all of those nukes is impossible. Do you usually keep 0.1 Kilo Nukes about and as many as a few thousand i think not. It's a shame that this war resorted into an Ignore because of the A.U godmoding. As for my underground attack, just to stop of any moves to call it godmoding its not. I gave plenty of times for A.U to come in and rp the discovery of what i was doing, and he did not so lets just establish that. What iam most dissapointed with, is that I spent ages writing up a decent post and A.U goes Ignore. Well i now Ignore A.U. As far as I and Russian Forces are concerned we now own Germany/Poland. The original plans will be kept. I will take West Germany where as RF gets everything else and HP gets Berlin. That is now the new map of the world.

If we can however just negate the whole nuking post iamwilling to call of my blowing up of Warsaw to keep this rp going. But its really up to A.U and RF.

Shame that it resorted to this be meh what can ya do.

Also on my attack upon Warsaw. 1) There owuld be no way to establish it was a nuke, unless after the attacj you went in and done radiation samples etc etc. Conventional explosives are very capable of doing what that nuke done, so as far as iam concerned the whole immediat response with nuke things is a godmod. You military would be at least in a state of shock, scrambling about to find out What the fuck happened and if it could happen again.

The blast wave incase you believe that that was the give away would merely be a compression wave within the air so that wouldnt do it. so A.U unless you want to change your post to make it ungodmoded then please do.

Thats why i used a nuke as it would be almost impossible to tell if it was until a detailed analysis as done. If i am wrong here someone feel free to point it out however the attached map is the new Europe.

My territory is obvious, Hp get Berlin and RF has everything else.

Veyr sorry for the spelling errors which will be great in number as iam very tired and iam not checking it.

ooc: this got nuclear fast. damn, this may be a little more then I can swallow.

ic: “General Wiessman, sir, we have more casualties. Some 5,000 Bonstocknians were killed in the last Russian attack, and the enemy is gathering forces as we speak. I don’t think we can hold on much longer.”

“God, how many Bonstocknians must die! This is getting unacceptable! We must abandon our positions.”

“But sir, Lord Harald will not accept such acts.”

“What Lord Harald says is of no concern to me.”

“But sir, he’ll have you relieved of command, court-martialed, even executed if you retreat perhaps.”

“Lord Harald is a general, and has been in battle before. I’m sure he’d understand. Besides, I have a plan.”

On the front, the withdrawl order was given, but took much time to reach the front. Suddenly, the Bonstocknians could see the Russian tanks approach. Infantry ran behind them, and artillery pounded their positions. The Bonstocknian tanks and artillery pieces fired all the ammunition they could, but within a half an hour there was no more to go around. With their ammunition spent, and news of nuclear attacks, the Bonstocknians did the last thing they could think of: they leapt out of their tanks and humvees, and fled the field towards Krakow. With the Russian tanks bearing down upon them, entire battalions offered to switch sides.

The retreating soldiers, those with rifles at least, meet the Bonstocknian 8th Army, which was coming to reinforce them. The soldiers cry, "La guerre est fini! La guerre est fini!" Entering Krakow before the Russians, Bonstocknian soldiers simply pillage everything in sight. Polish women were raped, stores looted, soldiers became drunken pigs. In the ill disciplined spur of the moment, Bonstocknian soldiers drive west, though Germany, killing and looting as they go. Finally, they realized they could go no farther: they had reached the borders of the Netherlands. Full of vodka and cognac, and with tanks and airplanes to spare, they invaded Holland and Belgium. Dutch and Begian forces, completly unprepared for these dogs of the east, fell back under the weight of Bonstocknian artillery, tanks, and aircraft. Many thousands of Bonstocknians were killed, but by nightfall the Bonstocknian flag flew over Amsterdam, the Hague, and Brussels. The Low Countries, pillaged, raped, and looted, now had new overlords.

Lord Harald would be pleased after all.

ooc: any way I could occupy some of Germany?

OOC: To all those calling this a godmode attack, its not really. The shells were hardly nuclear, only half of the cruise missiles were, the rest were conventional. The rocket launchers and artillery pieces were well within range of Russian Troops. (I would provide you the stats of the artillery and rocket launchers, but to be honest I really dont care enough to, however I will say that the artillery has a range of 350km (and this is not a godmode considering that is in fact on one of the largest storefronts in the ns world, and I think its actually based on a RL artillery piece)

And the simple size of the attack? I really dont think I am posting an OMG I PWNED YOU.... considering the attack was made on his troops, anyhow, he could easily do the same to mine if he chose to. He has huge reserves hes not using, and im basically using half of my national military in this, so im sure that an attack on me would be more devestating to me over Russian Forces. This attack did not pwn his troops, or RF himself, it was just a massive large scale attack, beyond current comprehension, but then nationstates nations are actually much larger than current nations, and there arent any formal treaties like the Geneva Convention etc. Its hardly a godmode.

Ignore me if you wish, I dont mind if RF wants to RP that he controls Germany, because I dont even recognise him as being in my version of the ns universe anyway. However I would be opposed to people saying "OMG you are pwned by Russian Forces", because that is obviously NOT the truth. If you want to ignore me because of that, then so be it. BITE ME.

PS: Unified Sith, where did I even ignore your attack on Warsaw? It was a perfectly valid attack, which is why I posted my huge response to, which RF refused to take appropriate losses to.

Actually I think your attack was ingenious, and if I could think of something like the MOLE, then I would. But meh, ignore me if you want. Your not really in my immediate RP circle anyway, so I dont see how it affects me.

OCC: AU im not letting this become between us but i say its best for us 2 to simply say we don't recognise each other. I'll say i defeated another AU and you just never heard of RF.

You said 80% of my forces which means my Eastern European forces and with them gone, the road to Moscow will be easy. I only have Aprox 6 million other troops in the deep east and thats it.

OOC: AU, Show me one artillery or rocket launcher that has a range of 350km, one real one. 350km is cruise missile range, and thats even a low range.

Also, supplying your guns with 300k shells is really hard to do in such a short time. 300k nuclear shells is just godmodding. Your attack was logistically godmodding, except for the cruise missiles, which in waves, could have been stopped by the S-300's.

Why say RF is godmodding? He was most generous with his losses and to be frank I don't think that RF is the one to blame here. Hell, even TAR agrees that RF's losses are too high in the strike.

OCC: Agreed. I was very generous in my opinion and what makes em laugh is the loss of 1,400 tanks by me and he lost a mere 12. Then he expected me to lose 80% of my forces in the west. My gosh that is tooooo demanding.

He lost a mere 12? Godmod.

OOC: Sorry i made my earlier post when i was tired and pissed off from work. However i may just point out that i only called the attack with the Nukes godmoding. I relaise you attackeed RF forces but i'm just wondering do you keep so many of those nukes all the time. It would be very hard to have an immediate response to my attack but i'm not ignoring you, I was just very tired. Sorry.

Anyway i think well just use RF's plan i am not going to Ignore A.U as i think i can have more rp's with hinm later on and i just hate the idea of Ignoring someone.