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UFGZ Declares War on Neo-Mekanta

Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 18:50
After a threatening message from Neo-Mekanta, we have understood that a Mekantan warfleet, Minagroshi (or something) was readied for war. So, we have reciprocated with a declaration of war.

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A small, black cylinder travelled through the Gorugathka system, headed for a Neo-Mekantan resource collector. It began to scan the vessel, identifying structure, defenses, and so on. It detected an energy surge just before transmission stopped.

"Sir, we have received much intelligence from the probe, however, it has been destroyed."

This was to be expected. "Send the fleet in." Schumacher just hoped he was making the right decision.
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 18:58
-Gorugathka
Organics have arrived... Probe eliminated...

The Unification thought a moment, a fraction of a second. Billions of AIs, united under the Will of Neo-Mekanta, devoted the smallest portion of thier intellect to this problem.

The result was clear.

Threat negligable... Maintain resource gathering. Fleet will be Triad Recalled into battle if threat strengthens...


-Neo-Mekantan Core, ?????
The Great Will analyzed the information flowing into his head, the holographic projection of its long-abandoned organic body smirking.

He despised that he was once weak, but he always reminded himself of his roots. It kept him from getting overconfident... A mistake that almost cost him everything when those thrice damned Central Facehuggerians and thier Mekantan allies destroyed the Phalanx...

No matter...

The presence of a probe, obviously originating from an Organic nation, in the Gorugathka system was no problem. "Minagoroshi..."

"Yes, Father...?" A female voice, similar to the Omnivoice of the Will of Neo-Mekanta, but simply one voice repeated, called out.

"The organics are making thier move... I want you to remain alert..."

"Yes, Great Will..."
Cam III
04-08-2004, 19:09
OOC:A space Rp, I will help you Neo-Mekanta.

IC: Sir, we have reports of GZ ready to attack our ally Neo-Mekanta.
Hmm, have they got a small fleet?I don't know.
Right ready the fleet and send them to the conflict zone!

The 120 ships had cloaked and left for the conflict zone, they would arrive in about 1 hour.

OOC: I am sending:
20 Planet Killers (V. dangerus)
10 Vengance Grand Cruisers (V. dangerus)
10 Retribution Grand Cruisers (V. dangerus)
10 Leviathan Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Diablo Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Emperor Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Shadow Cruisers
10 Pelennor Cruisers
20 Raider Escorts
A very powerful fleet. All w/cloaking. The planet killers CAN destroy a planet.
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 19:11
-OOC-
No! Everyone stay out.

It'll be interesting to see this one on one.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
04-08-2004, 19:16
OOC:A space Rp, I will help you Neo-Mekanta.

IC: Sir, we have reports of GZ ready to attack our ally Neo-Mekanta.
Hmm, have they got a small fleet?I don't know.
Right ready the fleet and send them to the conflict zone!

The 120 ships had cloaked and left for the conflict zone, they would arrive in about 1 hour.

OOC: I am sending:
20 Planet Killers (V. dangerus)
10 Vengance Grand Cruisers (V. dangerus)
10 Retribution Grand Cruisers (V. dangerus)
10 Leviathan Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Diablo Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Emperor Heavy Cruisers (Dangerus)
10 Shadow Cruisers
10 Pelennor Cruisers
20 Raider Escorts
A very powerful fleet. All w/cloaking. The planet killers CAN destroy a planet.
OOC: Hey, you only made five of those Planet Killers! Oh well. I have Terras.
Cam III
04-08-2004, 19:33
OOC: Ok, I'll watch though...

IC: Sir, Neo-Mekanta wants us to pull out.
Take us to a safe distance. Relay this message to GZ:

To: GZ ships
From: Cam III ships
We are not here to fight, only to watch. Any attack made on us WILL be taken as a decleration of war. Youhave been warned...
Cam III
04-08-2004, 19:35
OOC: Hey, you only made five of those Planet Killers! Oh well. I have Terras.
NO, I only sold 15. 10 to a nameless nation and 5 to you...
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 20:47
Ever since the destruction of Normandeicht and subsequent rebuilding, the Federation had taken a new interest in war. Over three hundred warships had been constructed at newly mechanized fleetyards. Now, 200 of the 397 ships in the Federated fleet were heading to the Gorugathka System.

With them, the Pride of the Fleet, the FSS Reagan, went. It was centered in the middle of the 199 other vessels. It had been crewed with 400,000 souls, a far cry from the million that used to inhabit it before the automation.

The fleet proceeded under impulse out-system, and jumped to warp.

ooc: about 75 ships are picket/frigates, the rest are destroyers, light, heavy, and battle cruisers, a few carriers, and a dreadnought or two...
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 21:01
-OOC-
You're sending TWO HUNDRED BLOODY SHIPS to take out a reletively unimportant Resourcer Wing...

...

... Okay then...

Aren't you leaving your home systems a bit open? ~_^


-IC-

-Gorugathka System...
The Organics are en route... How many ships? Long range scans show 200. Interesting. Dispatch armada? Negative. We shall wait, and strike at the last possible moment. Confirmed.

And so the Unification watched... Waiting...


-The Worldfleet

"How funny those ships are..."

Niose turned, blinking as a crimson haired young woman, lacking the genetic facial markings of a Mekantan, swirled into existance next to him. "Minagoroshi..." Niose said, nodding. "I take it you'll be going there."

His "sister" just giggled, looking at the holographic window showing the situation in Gorugathka.

"Perhaps. We are watching, waiting for now. We will attack when it is right to attack."
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 21:18
ooc: That's the fleet. We have system defense ships and all civilian ships have weapon ports for quick modification...

Uh, this resource collector is big, right? I hope so, cause I'm throwin' everything at it...

IC:

The fleet jumped out of warp out-system. All ships had powered up their slipdrives and made a point-jump right into the heart of the system. A large ship sat near asteroids, collecting metals and other resources.

The foremost cruiser opened up with its anti-matter batteries, firing shells of pure antimatter. Particle beams lanced out like sewing thread, slashing and burning at bulkhead and metal.

A small science ship produced an EMP wave, hoping to "short out" the mechanical enemies of the Federation. The captain didn't know if it would work or not...

The Reagan fired thousands of quantumn torpedoes, broadsiding with plasma and anti-matter batteries, all to destroy this monstrous machine of the enemy.

ooc: I don't really feel like dialogue and people and everything, too tired...
Mekanta
04-08-2004, 21:58
-OOC-
EDIT: Bloody freakin' hell!

Got reverted again... >_<"
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 22:02
-OOC-
Grr...

The thing is basically a saucer with a three mile diameter, with five mile long tentacles that do the mining. Not the largest ship in the Neo-Mekantan Worldfleet. But it's a decent size.

-IC-
-Gorugathka system

The various drones running around the system scattered when the barrage started, the Unification noting the activity in the system. The EMP made their actions somewhat sluggish as it disoriented them. No damage, but enough of an annoyance.

Sector has hit priority check. Execute program...

As the barrage ripped into the Resourcer, it activated its Triad Point. A blinding flash filled the system...

And as it faded, the GZ armada was surrounded. Roughly two-hundred and fifty warships, thier Reflex Cannons already charging.

(OOC: Reflex Cannon - An anti-capship weapon with yeild estimated in the hundreds of gigatons when used in ship to ship combat. Used to defeat capitol ships at a single blow. If you'd like, I can go into the physics of the weapon. ^_^)

The trap was a simple one. Use the Resourcer's Triad Point to recall in a fleet, taking the enemy by surprise. Few nations had ever encountered this technology, and GZ was the first to witness Neo-Mekanta's devestating use of the systems stolen from thier Mekantan bretheren...

As the split booms of the Neo-Mekantan Reflex Cannons glowed to life, one of the Alpha class Commandships barked out a single command to the organic fleet.

"POWER DOWN ALL WEAPONS AND SURRENDER. YOU HAVE FIFTEEN SECONDS TO COMPLY."
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 22:07
"Sir, message coming through!"

"Put it through, comm." The admiral hadn't expected any communication from them...

"POWER DOWN ALL WEAPONS AND SURRENDER. YOU HAVE FIFTEEN SECONDS TO COMPLY."

"Tactical, do all ships have the phase sheilding on-line?" Shouted Schumacher... time was of the essence...

"Yes sir!" The commander behind him shouted.

Admiral Schumacher whirled about. "Have all vessels fire their PPC's. And, fire a Genesis torpedo at the enemy fleet. We may get a small, mineral rich moon out of this..."

ooc: The genesis torpedoe is from startrek, and it will create a moon from all of your ships in the area of the detonation by re-organizing the matter. Second, the PPC is the Phase Particle Cannon, which is a central device that phases itself and then rephases inside the enemy ship, detonating on re-phasing.
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 22:13
ooc: BTW, the phase shields phase everything that it comes into contact with, thereby the weapon, etc., passes through the ship. It will phase electrons, protons, nuetrons, gluons, quarks, leptons, etc...
Vexia
04-08-2004, 22:14
OOC: We do have a Space Tech puppet, but i can't be bothered to log in as it right now. We're also going to not recognize the difference between Neo-Mekanta and Mekanta, for amusing RP reasons.

the Emperor cursed himself for not thinking of this sooner. But he had been kept busy with regional matters, and Mekanta had not really ever been a priority of his untill now.
"Is Terra Funestis willing to uphold their end of the bargain?"
"Yes sir. In exchange for a 100 tonnes of mined Uranium, they'll give us two deep space probes to look for the Mekantans."
"Excellent. Report to me when you find anything that looks vaguely machinelike. I don't care what those machines say or do. they're all scum. When we find them, then we can consider bribing the Terran Funestisians to do something about them."
The Emperor sat back in his comfortable chair, waiting for the reuslts of the search to reach him.............
CorpSac
04-08-2004, 22:31
OOC: We do have a Space Tech puppet, but i can't be bothered to log in as it right now. We're also going to not recognize the difference between Neo-Mekanta and Mekanta, for amusing RP reasons.

OOC: ooooooooooohhh does this mean Mekanta will be attack *eyes light up* oh ya why im posting ---TAG--
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 22:33
-OOC-
Heh. I remember Genesis.

-IC-
-Gorugathka system

"VERY WELL..."

A second later, the Reflex Cannons finished charging and unleashed thier raw destructive power upon the organics' fleet formation, hundreds of gigatons of power shrieking towards the center of the fleet.

One of the blasts intercepted the Genesis torpedo as it flew, oblitorating it before it was within blast range of the fleet.

As the deadly Reflex Cannon retort ended, the fleet was caught by the PPC blasts, taking a fair amount of damage and responding in kind with a full barrage of thier Particle Beam Cannons and Heavy Particle Beam Arrays. Reflex Torpedoes and fighters launched, screaming towards the GZ armada.

-OOC-
Current loses: None, but heavy damage among some ships.

And because I'm bored out of my effing skull, here's the details on Mekantan/Neo-Mekantan weapon systems.

Reflex Cannon: As stated, a heavy anti capship weapon. The weapon is charged on two layers of space: the XYZ locational layer most weapons exist on, and in the fabric of spacetime itself. It is along both layers that the beam is fired, rendering shields only partially successful against this devestating weapon.

Reflex Warheads: Essentially a missile or torpedo precharged to release a blast similar to that of a weak Reflex Cannon.

Particle Beam: A diverse and easily modified weapon adored by Mekantans and Neo-Mekantans alike. The standard type is medium in destructive power, but the beam cannons tend toward the higher range. The weapon has a natural modulation that renders some types of shields that use a modulation to allow allied fire through limited in its effectiveness.
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 22:45
ooc: well thank you very much... the Genesis torpedoe just transformed all that energy into matter and re-organized it into a planet... not to be in-your-face, but, HA!!!

Secondly, standard Federation shielding (since discovery) essentially acts as a bubble, cutting off the ship from the fabric of space. The shields are timed quantumnly to lower to allow weapons fire. As such these ships appear and dissappear, as light cannot reach them while the sheilds are active... However, the shields can be detected, and overloaded...

Ic:

Admiral Schumacher watched as a new planet formed from the union of the Genesis and the enourmous amounts of energy fired from the Machine fleet. He let out a low whistle, "Boys, I think this just got a whole lot more interesting..."

The fleet continued to fire the Quantumn torpedoes, antimatter and plasma batteries, PPCs, and particle cannons/arrays. The six carriers launched their full compliment, 1200 fighters in all. The smaller ships formed a vanguard, and the Reagan continued to charge it's gravometric distoriton generator...

ooc: again, I really don't feel like writing a good, descriptive post... maybe tomarrow...
Oh, and it's still early in the battle, so we have no losses either...
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 23:09
-OOC-
So essentially you remove your ships from space while the shield is up. Heh.

Mekanta has a technology like that. Although, granted, it dropping can tend to be bad for anything around it, or gods forbid, "above" it when it drops.

I'll grab the info off the ESUS boards when they come back up. But one thing...

Are you saying a blast hundreds of gigatons in power (you were being attacked from all directions) isn't enough to overload the shields? *cough*


-IC-

The Unification was enjoying itself. It was rare that a race would put up any fight at all. Normally the first bombardment did them in. It would be entertaining to crush them, once and for all.

The ships raised Area Barriers to intercept the Truespace weapons fire, learning from the last barrage to project Pinpoint Barriers to intercept the PPC fire before it hit. All while the Mekantan ships continued unloading hell on the GZ armada.

Let us see how they respond to this... RAM THEM.

One of the Beta class Dreadnaughts activated its Fold Drive, vanishing in a burst of light and color, only to re-appear at roughly the center of the fleet. In a moment, it raised its Omnidirectional Barrier and just sat there, in position to ram the next ship that emerged from their bubble.


-OOC-
Essentially, Mekantan barriers are solid walls of energy that block anything incomming. The newer versions, in use by both sides of the rift, are red in color and are raised to intercept enemy fire. Since nothing from either side can pass the barrier, the barriers are only raised to intercept enemy fire so as not to interfere with bombardment.

The Beta class is roughly four kilometers long, and fairly dense. Anything that gets rammed by one is going to hurt. Especially with the barrier up.
Germanische Zustande
04-08-2004, 23:39
ooc: heh heh... Our phase shields will phase your "Beta." It will be rephased, don't worry, that's one drawback to the shield...

And, one quadrant of that was turned into a planet, btw, and those ships were most likely sucked into the planet... and i'lll get to that overload thing later

I don't have time until later tonight, so, I'll do the battle later. Hey, btw, your weapons are having just as much effect on me as mine are on you.
Neo-Mekanta
04-08-2004, 23:43
-OOC-
Oh, so some of your ships took heavy damage? ^_^

The PPC barrage worked well until Neo-Mekanta adapted. That's the big threat: Neo-Mekanta's motto.

"Examine. Evolve. Exterminate."

You just need to change your attack pattern. ^_^
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 00:24
ooc: Okay, as for the overloads...

My shields can be disrupted, pardon, but not overloaded. The shields do not absorb energy and redirect it. THat's a different shield if power is low...

Anyway, the phase shields phase anything that touches it, and when the opposite side of the shield hits the object, it rephases. The other shields, when overloaded, are only breifly inactive. Maybe a few seconds.
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 00:43
"Admiral, we have succesfully docked with the fourteen damaged ships, we are beginning repairs."

"Good, good. Ops, I want to expand the Reagan's sheilds around the Armada... draw the vanguard back." The battle seemed to be going better for the UFGZ than it was the Machines.

The entire Armada disappeared into nothingspace, as it is commonly known. Pockets opened up, torpedoes and PPCs fired out. The entire shield dropped sometimes, the valuable seconds being used to fire particle cannons and arrays.

"Admiral," A new man standing beside Schumacher spoke. "I believe that a change of tactics is in order."

Schumacher stared inquisitively, and before his eyes, the man vanished. "I have had a revelation from the Ancestors!" The entire bridge turned and stared in wonder and awe. "Broadcast the Ancestor War March, The Flight of the Valkyries on all channels, subspace, hyperspace, realspace, and quantumnspace. All ships disperse and attack enemy vessels from all sides, impulse at full. Buzz around them like flies. We will be victorious!"

The fleet moved to carry out his orders.
Neo-Mekanta
05-08-2004, 00:59
The Unification was greatly amused.

The hulls of the damaged ships were beginning to regenerate, courtesy of stolen Mekantan engineering, and the organics were getting overconfident.

They believe they hold the upper hand. Correct. Prove them wrong. Affermative.

From observation and scan of the fleet, Neo-Mekanta could tell where the ships were from the effects of thier shields, and careful timing would give a general idea of when the shield would be down to attack.

The fleet waited, counting the nanoseconds, then launched a full bombardment on the enemy ships around the very moment they dropped thier shields to attack...
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 05:56
ooc: I mentioned this somewhere, but I have to search...

My sheilds are quantumly timed to drop for nanoseconds, just long enough for the weapon to pass through. So, some weapons probably got through (of yours). But, remember, there are humans that fire someweapons, so they do not come in predictable bursts all the time...

ic:

So far, nineteen ships had sustained various levels of damage. They were under repair inside on of the many hangar bays of the Reagan. The rest of the fleet continued to take the fight to the enemy. Small vessel size gave the Federation an advantage: They were able to run cirlces around enemy ships, hacking and slashing with hundreds of different weapons.

All ships were scrambling firing patterns, targets, and just about every cycled command. However, all orders originated from the Reagan

"Helm, I believe it is time to pull out our signature weapon. Heh, they won't be expecting this..." Admirals had used this tactic since the Great Battle for Atheos over two hundred years ago, and It would be used again this day.

"Yes sir!" Replied the young ensign at the helm.

The Reagan powered up its massive engines and set a course directly for the heart of the enemy fleet. Its standard shields dropped, leaving only the Phaseshield to protect it. Deep within the heart of the Reagan thousands of engineers readied to eject the four of the warp cores...
Vexia
05-08-2004, 14:26
Meanwhile, a million kilometers from the heart of the battle, a Deep Space Probe emerged into realspace, its primitive FTL drive requiring the gravitational pull of Stars and Plantes to speed and slow down.
the Genesis World had attracted it, and it was now heading towards that planet, scanning the vicinity for mechanoid lifeforms.
Itwould have been greatly suprised to find them-but it wasn't sentient, so it didn't feel emotions.
It merely transmitted the dtaa back to Terra Funestis's Spacial Array, which would then relay it back to Terra Funestis, who would then send it back to Earth and Vexia.
It had found its quarry, and would now follow the enemy- tyhose that survived the battle- back to their homeworlds, too small and insiginificant to be detected amidst the chaos of the battle raging around them.
It would wait, then attach itself to the largest surviving ship, and act as a beacon for the Terra Funestisians and their Vexian allies.
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 16:01
Hey, dude, they detected my probe... and it's way more advanced than yours... or, pardon, it was way more advanced...
Vexia
05-08-2004, 17:39
OOC: That's exactly why it won't be found. My probe is (hopefully) to primitive to be deteceted by al their sophisticated gadgetry, which will most likely be too busy analyzing the battle to do more than register the existence of a hunk of metal brushing against their hull- which is really all the probe is.
Though they may discover its existence and purpose when they reach whatever passes for a spacedock for the Mekantans.
But by then, it will hopefully be too late.
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 22:55
Summary of Federation Forces in this stupid engagement:

1 Bismarck Class Battleship
2 Terpitz Class Dreadnoughts
4 Ancestral Class Battle Carriers
4 Danube Class Carriers
10 Astricht Class Battle Cruisers
10 Amsterdam Class Battle Cruisers
20 Einstein Class Heavy Cruisers
20 Kaiser Class Light Cruisers
30 Dusseldorf Class Destroyers
30 Copenhagen Class Torpedo Destroyers
50 Verteideger Class Frigates
19 Elbe Class Warships

I really need to finish the specs... some are finished, others aren't even started...
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:10
I'd Say Snice we just joined his alliance and we promised to help him with any combat operations It's Time we helped out if he's introuple. It's time we proved we are worth somthing.

I want 50 ships ready in 10 minutes. 10 of Each Kind You can Get!
10 Galaxy Refit Classes
10 Defiant Class
10: prometheus
10:sovereign command ships
10: Akria Crusiers

Captain: I hope we can get there in time

Set Crouse and Engage at warp 9.93
Helms: Aye Estimated time 15 minutes.
Captain: Tell them we are comming to help.
We will provide cover so there ships can move in closer and destoy the enemy whatever the hell it is.
CorpSac
05-08-2004, 23:15
I'd Say Snice we just joined his alliance and we promised to help him with any combat operations It's Time we helped out if he's introuple. It's time we proved we are worth somthing.

I want 50 ships ready in 10 minutes. 10 of Each Kind You can Get!
10 Galaxy Refit Classes
10 Defiant Class
10: prometheus
10:sovereign command ships
10: Akria Crusiers

Captain: I hope we can get there in time

Set Crouse and Engage at warp 9.93
Helms: Aye Estimated time 15 minutes.
Captain: Tell them we are comming to help.
We will provide cover so there ships can move in closer and destoy the enemy whatever the hell it is.

OOC:
er...Neo Mekanta sead this is between him and GZ but if your jumping in i might just to side with Neo cos i hate ST ships that much lol
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:17
OCC: Were just here to WATCH.
FOr The Moment anyway.
If this starts getting really out of hand I'm going to send more than just 50 ships. ;)
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 23:17
ooc: uh, this was meant to be 1 vs. 1, so, please turn back...

ic:

"Admiral, the ECF is sending a fleet!"

"Tell them to turn back! They would be slaughtered!

ooc: and that's the truth. Trek Tech would not be able to stand up for long in this battle. The Reagan would have to protect you with its shields...

But, hey, you didn't know... I'm not rebuking you or anything...
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 23:19
Heh, took to long to respond.... whoops... well, whatever...
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:24
Ops: Dropping to impluse ,holy crap!
Captain: Scan
Tactical:........ just look at this
Captain: ALL SHIPS FULL REVERASE!(SP?)
*crash,the ship shakes*
Tactical: Sheilds at 89%
Captain: Head Back to the ECF Maximum Warp!
*the battlefleet disapeers in a swirl of blue light.*

Germanische Zustande-
Captain: We are sorry that we cannot help,
If I had more battleships I might have helped.
Just wait till our new titan class comes out!
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 23:29
ECF, we may send you the plans to some ships... might help you...

ooc: just waiting for the Machines to repond...
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:33
Germanische Zustande-I would help if I could say bring 1/2 the fleet with me but that can't be done.

We are going to upgrade are ships with higher powered Sheild generators.

PreHaps We could work out a deal and get some phase sheilds.
Central Facehuggeria
05-08-2004, 23:35
*Subscribe for intrest*
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 23:37
ooc: Yeah... I'm soooo gald I thought of those... I could supply you with ten, however, they are very very new, kinda secret, so I may decide to keep them to myself.
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:45
Thats Perfectly ok, We are working on new high powered sheild generators.

Secert So no one say "I found it!:
Captain: Satus?
Ops: Phase Cloak is working perfectly even if they detect us they cannot harm us.
Captain: To bad we can't fire like this,Scan everylast bit of that thing and tell the other fleet so they don't hit us with weapons fire
Begain Sendnig Telematery of the Damaged arera and weak points, Use the Trick with the Warp Engines Backround Noise I showed you. So They Won't decect it and aim it RIGHT at the command ships dish.
Tell them not to send anything back,THis is the only way we can help them
OCC: they I'm doing this actually is impossible to decetec unless it's being aimed right at you
Germanische Zustande
05-08-2004, 23:54
Hey, uh, ECF, can you make your posts a little clearer?
East Coast Federation
05-08-2004, 23:59
OCC: Sorry I was chatting to a ton of people most of em are gone now I'll rewrite that
East Coast Federation
06-08-2004, 00:10
"Sir It's Working Perfectly the morons can't see us or hurt us, I knew phase cloaking was a good idea" the Ops Office informed the captain. The Captain looked quite happy " Do you remeber how I showed you how to hide signals in backround warp noise?". "Of crouse sir in fact I knew you were going to do this so it's all prepared" The Ops Officer impormed the captain"
"Perfect, tell them where we are, as in 1/2 mile away from it, transfer telemetry to them, Make sure your only transmitting in there direction" * He watched as firefrom both ships wizzed right through them. "Ha the Klingons were right cloaking rocks!, But we made it better!
You should pick up the transmissions, It's sending you all the weak points and best places to hit it. The Ship will stay cloaked and will follow your fleet and help out by scanning the enemy at close range. Considering It Can Keep Up.

OCC: the enemy cannot decetect this, It's been done in trek many times
Germanische Zustande
06-08-2004, 00:52
Bump...
Central Facehuggeria
06-08-2004, 02:04
OCC: the enemy cannot decetect this, It's been done in trek many times

OOC: Just because it works as a deus ex machina in Trek doesn't mean it will work against the Neo-Mekantan, who are extremely good at detecting things. (They use psionic, gravititic, and some other form of sensor whose name escapes me IIRC.)
East Coast Federation
06-08-2004, 02:24
It's Still Phased and unless they have a *name escapes me* which they don't.
Were safe. THis is only a collector.
So after this we are leaving because there fleet will probably have it.
Neo-Mekanta
06-08-2004, 06:40
-OOC-
Your people think, don't they? Then you're not safe.

The fleet ships of Neo-Mekanta's armadas may not have psionic attack capabilities (yet), but they can sense conscious thought. They can find you wherever you are. But I don't need it...

CF, do you mean Tran/spacial?

There are two possible explainations (that I know of) for phasing. Either partially or fully translocating a ship from the XYZ axis of space and into the fabric of Spacetime (W) itself, or partially dropping into another plane (like Hyperspace or Subspace). Both require massive amounts of technological work to function.

Mekantan Tran/space scanners can detect disturbances in both, caused by ships or after-effects of ships passing. Unless you can provide a logical explaination for a different type, I'll protect you from the Tran/space scanners.

Sorry for the delay, GZ. Yesterday I was dragged away by work and today I was out for a while. ^_^

I'm working on a post now. I'll post it when it's done.
Balrogga
06-08-2004, 13:57
*pushes the RECORD button for later viewing*
East Coast Federation
06-08-2004, 15:32
The Telepath Consular suddenly woke up and hit the intercomm.
"Sir Someone is here I reccomend you get the ship out of here now,that ship can sense thougts!"
The Captain Looked Horified. "I beleive her, Helm,set crouse 394.245, And Enage at Warp 9.93! Get us back to ECF Space"
The Helm Responded "Aye Sir getting us the hell out of here!"
*the ship moved off the enemy ship and rocketed off,slightly*
Warhaven
06-08-2004, 17:21
*sits in a small solar crusier watching the battle with intrest from far away*
Germanische Zustande
06-08-2004, 17:55
*counts how many fleets are just staring*

IT'S NOT NICE TO STARE!
Warhaven
06-08-2004, 18:23
*continues to stare*
East Coast Federation
06-08-2004, 20:09
*lets all almost poke him*
*almost pokes*
I'm not touching you

wow that was low
Neo-Mekanta
06-08-2004, 20:59
-OOC-
Run! Run, little man!

And yes, the internal mind-babble of the Unification is meant to be confusing. ^_^

-IC-

Re-analysis of thier tactics is complete. They have begun scrambling to attempt to distract us. Correct. Spread the Armada further. Attempt to engage ships on a single basis. Adjust Particle Beam weapons to emit a continual beam. Confirmed. They will be unable to fire without being attacked. Correct. Our losses? No losses, but several of the smaller ships have taken heavy damage. Continue scanning. Find the weakness in those shields. Terminate all opposition.

Unquestioning of its own orders, the Unification ships spread out, locking on to individual ships and spread out to engage thier oppponents...
Germanische Zustande
06-08-2004, 21:12
"Admiral," came the voice of a man.

Schumacher whirled around. It was that same man who had told him to change his tactics. An Ancestor.

"W-what?"

"Remember that EMP? Well, you might want to carry it a little farther...."

The man disappeared before the Admiral's eyes again.

Fritz Schumacher wondered what he had meant by "carry it a little farther." Was he supposed to use EMP's? The admiral couldn't believe how vague the Ancestors were...

"Communications, send a message to all ships: Rig Main Deflector arrays to emit a level ten EMP. All ships are then to drop nothingspace shields and fire Quantumn Torpedoes. Set the torpedoes to modulate at 450 gigahertz per cycle. All ships are then to form a Phalanx and charge the enemy lines. Concentrate all fire at one vessel at a time, destroying one by one. All vessels are to divert any reserve power to the Phase shields."

"Yes sir, orders relayed," came the response from the Comm.

So far no losses had been sustained, but due to overloaded circuits in the brand-new phase technology, several weapons were able to pass through a couple Vanguard ship's shields. Thus, several ships had docked with the Reagan for battle repairs.

And the battle raged on...
Neo-Mekanta
06-08-2004, 21:53
ENOUGH!! Focus all fire on thier ship with the largest population! Begin rearming Reflex Missile launchers to utilize Transpace Mortar technology. If we are unable to pierce thier shield, we shall go around it. Confirmed. TRAnCe-F system active. Begin reconfiguration of the Reflex Cannons to use higher W-Space transmission. We shall make our weapon as unescapable as gravity itself!

The Neo-Mekantan armada continued to spread even as the GZ armada prepared its new tactic, its systems rearming themselves for the new tactic...


-OOC-
TRAnCe-F
Tactical Responce And Change Facilitator
It's used to rearm Mekantan/Neo-Mekantan ships in the field, removing the need to return to port to do it. It ties into the "Examine, Evolve, Exterminate" mentality.

Transpace Mortars
Essentially works by creating a charged energy field around a projectile, usually an explosive one, and hurling it into another plane and dropping it back into Truespace at its target.
Germanische Zustande
06-08-2004, 23:09
"Sir, sensors are detecting another massive energy build up from the Machine fleet. It seems they are preparing to fire their cannons again."

This battle seemed to be a stalemate. The Reagan only had four Genesis torpedoes on board, so the Fleet couldn't continue to create planets in the middle of the battlefield.

The fleet had formed a Phalanx, dropping the Nothingspace Shields. All vessels still maintained their Phase shields, however. The Federated Fleet began the advance, unleashing everything that it had upon the Machine Fleet. Tens of thousands of Particle cannons lashed out, thousands of torpedoes, phasic, quantum, and more. The Reagan fired its four PPCs, and from all 200 ships, a level ten EMC eminated toward the enemy fleet.

(Level 10 = EMC that would accompany a Nova)

Beneath the massive battleship Reagan four massive hatches slid open. From each a Warp Core ejected, each full of Antimatter. The 500 foot diameter, 2 mile tall cylinders dropped out from the hatches. Eight blue Tractor beams flung the massive bombs toward the enemy fleet.

Larger ships within the fleet with dual or quad warp cores followed suit, ejecting spare cores and flinging them toward the enemy fleet. Thirty Warp Cores of various sizes lumbered toward the Machine line.

The warp cores are the most heavily armed part of a ship. This is for good reason. If one of those was to detonate or breach or whatever within a ship, much less a fleet, it would wreak havoc upon the surrounding ships.

Admiral Schumacher realized that the Federated fleet had been outnumbered, almost 3:2. And the battle was a stalemate? "Comm, send a priority Quantumspace message to Federation High Command: All Available Ships Are To Report To Battle; Reinforcements Needed."

Fritz wondered to himself if he had just condemned more men and women to death, or just saved the Federation.
Germanische Zustande
06-08-2004, 23:14
ooc: I recently read a new theory that all matter shares a quantum interrelatedness. The UFGZ military utilizes this interconnectedness to almost-instantaneously send and receive messages. Sadly, the UFGZ hasn't figured out how to transport ships in this way...

As for the EMP, it is the concentration of all the EMPs that allow it to reach that level.
Warhaven
06-08-2004, 23:22
ooc: is this a call for help or are you still going one-on-one?
Germanische Zustande
07-08-2004, 00:14
Still 1 v. 1. I'm just getting reinforcements.
Warhaven
07-08-2004, 00:59
OOC: Thank you, I just wanted to make sure before I came in with my currently puny fleet
Mekanta
07-08-2004, 08:37
-OOC-
BLOODY.

*kicks the board*

FREAKING.

*kicks*

HELL!!

*kicks*


Ignore this post. Got reverted again.
Neo-Mekanta
07-08-2004, 08:39
The EMP hit the Neo-Mekantan fleet hard, providing precious moments of a heavily disoriented and essentially defenseless fleet for the GZ barrage.

Which left the armada surrounding the GZ fleet sitting ducks for the first part of the bombardment. Explosions lit up the fleet, as 43 of the ships were destroyed and another fifty sustained heavy damage.

Mid way through the bombardment, the Unification regained control of its ships and began using the barrier systems and point defence arrays of the ships to begin minimizing damage.

Vengefully, the Neo-Mekantan fleet issued a deadly retort with its Transpace Mortar readied Reflex Missiles and modified "W" Reflex Cannons...


-OOC-
Unless you have some way of protecting against gravity, I doubt you'll be able to avoid damage from the Reflex Cannons this time. A lot more energy is being transfered along the fabric of space. Just a warning.
Germanische Zustande
07-08-2004, 23:21
ooc: Okay, now, since our ships have reverted back to realspace, the space-time energy will not affect us. However, the realspace weapons now have targets. Also... remember, those 30 warp cores flung into your fleet and detonated, too.
(and, I'll just call you Mekanta, Neo-mekanta takes too long)

ic:

The Mekantan cannons ripped into the Federated fleet. The energy seemed only to be phasing, the beam passing straight through the Fleet. However, on many of the smaller vessels, systems overloaded, engines failed, power went off-line, and the Phase shields dropped from the enourmous pounding. They simply couldn't phase that kind of power.

Many of the smaller vessels were decimated. 14 hung dead in space, 29 were no more than charged particles, and another 43 were nearly inoperable. The Reagan, the Dreadnoughts, and the Carriers were all relatively unharmed. Many of the heavier Cruisers escaped serious damage, but nearly all destroyers, frigates, and picketvessels were out of the battle.

The message that had been sent to Atheos had been received, and another fifty-four vessels, mainly Destroyers, were readying for battle. This reinforcement fleet charged up the Fold engines and moved as easily as a bird from the skies above the Homeworld to the battle raging above another, new, world.

The combined fleet powered up for another EMP bombardment, and resumed firing all their particle cannons, torpedoes, and other various weapons.

ooc: Folding space and moving across from one point to another is nearly instantaneous. And, since the contested system is within 2,000 lightyears, it took one jump.
Neo-Mekanta
08-08-2004, 06:55
-OOC-
Damn damn damn damn damn! Work is catching up to me. >_<*

I'm working on a post. Just have to dodge pissed off fans. ^_^
Neo-Mekanta
09-08-2004, 05:19
-OOC-
Damn it.

I'll be gone most of this week. Sorry we didn't get a chance to finish this sooner than we will. I might be able to post if I can get an internet connection. ^_^
Germanische Zustande
16-08-2004, 05:52
heh... bump...
Neo-Mekanta
16-08-2004, 06:42
-OOC-
Did I forget about this topic? LoL

Sorry.

I'll finish this up. Working on a post now.

Oh, and I'm throwing this battle. Just... Good friggin' luck finding more Neo-Mekantan units. I'm solidifying around Goruk (which is closed RP for discovery of Gyges and Ixmucane and a devestating retaliatory attack by Minagoroshi) and the Worldfleet (which is suicide to attack).
Germanische Zustande
16-08-2004, 17:51
Mekanta, I wouldn't think that your enemy is so toothless.... Why do you think I sent 250 something ships to attack a resource collector?

Just remember this: We've put up one heck of a fight, outnumbered nearly 3:2. So, just think about it... When the USF gets on its feet and I construct another 200 ships, you might want to be a little more wary of my Allied Fleet.

Oh, and, by the way, I think that our "War" will end up being a single battle...
Neo-Mekanta
17-08-2004, 00:38
-OOC-
Why do you think I sent 250 something ships to attack a resource collector?
I'd answer that question, but you wouldn't like it. ^_^

(Kidding.)

Just remember this: We've put up one heck of a fight, outnumbered nearly 3:2.
No, your shields put up one hell of a fight. Transpace mortars bypass shields. How well will you do when I start using Reflex Warheads in those? Or Minagoroshi cells. Or, once Minagoroshi consumes a Mekantan "Apocalypse" class, a Singularity Distortion Warhead.

Presently, your only advantage is your shields. Once Neo-Mekanta negates those, (wait about five minutes, NS time) you're nothing more than target practice.

So, just think about it... When the USF gets on its feet and I construct another 200 ships, you might want to be a little more wary of my Allied Fleet.

See above. You'll just be giving Neo-Mekanta more scrap and technology. I think I'll take back what I said about throwing this battle...

And no, this war might not end here. You see... All Mekantans are a vengeful lot. If you wrong them, they'll strike back. See the Transpace Mortar thing. Has GZ, IC, ever seen what Minagoroshi is capable of doing to planets? They will...


-IC-

The Neo-Mekantan fleet unloaded with conventional weapons on the warp cores while they were still far enough away from the semi-important ships, destroying them well before they were a threat. Some of the smaller ships got caught in the shockwave and folded to the reletive safety of the system edge.

Enough... Utilize Reflex Warheads in all Transpace Mortar launchers. We shall see how thier primative vessels can deal with a mortal blow to thier ships interiors...
Shadow Tech
17-08-2004, 00:52
The shadow tech probe beamed back its information before shifting dimensions for the travel home.
Germanische Zustande
17-08-2004, 02:08
Heh heh heh. Yes. Whatever you say. Remember the PPCs? And the phasic torpedoes? And the Quantum Topedoes? And, I'm thinking of having the Reagan phase all your ships by ramming them.

Secondly: The Warp Cores are the Absolute Most heavily armored parts of Federation Vessels. They have shield systems, armor plate, everything

Third: I may divert the Black Fleet to attack this worldfleet thing ;).

Fourth: The UFGZ has lost a world to Shivan Nanites

Fifth: Don't even think about transporting directly to the Homesystem. Only Juumanistra, USF, and certain AON and ESUS members know its location.

Sixth: Standard Federation shields block off the entire space-time continuum, bubble shields as I like to call them. So, until the overload, the Transpacial weapons will not get through.

Seventh: The Fleet will be re-activating its Nothingspace shields

Eigth: The Federation will not let you win. It has lost its first war, "tied" in its second, and it shall not do either in this one. Every single bit of info collected during the course of the battle is being studied, and as you read this, new weapons are being developed, new strategies formed, etc.

IC:

The Federation Fleed unleashed another EMP upon the Machine fleet. The almost 200 ship fleet opened fire yet again with its full armament. Much of the fleet was beginning to run low on torpedoes, and a re-supply would soon be required. It was dangerous to Fold supplies into other vessels during a battle, but the Fold crew of the Reagan would have to cope. All of the Federated ships raised their shield systems and continued to hide.

Back home, the High Admirals had met in the City of the Ancestors. A great debate carried on between them: Should the Black Fleet be dispatched?

Even when the entire Federated Navy had consisted of 50 ships, the Black Fleet had been in operation, deep in the heart of Atheos Prime. The Black Fleet now consisted of 200 ships. There were only ten ships any larger than a Destroyer. (so no, I'm not Godmodding) The Black Fleet was the most advanced in all the Federation. It was no weak, "primitive" fleet, no. It was the epitomy of centuries of scientific discovery in the Federation. No expense had been spared in its construction.

After hours of deliberation, it was decided. The Main Fleet would withdraw, leading the Machines to the Federated World of Normandeicht. They would be caught in a trap. The Black Fleet would destroy the Mekantan Fleet at last.

ooc: I plan to use the shield tech to lure your fleet. I'm hoping you're like the replicators.
Germanische Zustande
17-08-2004, 04:33
ooc: Now, consider this:

The Federation beleives that the Ancestors, the race that colonized its twenty six worlds, was chased from Terra by an ancient evil. So, reason number one for 600 ships is paranoia.

Secondly, ever since the terrible "tie" (defeat) at Normandeicht, the UFGZ has been building ships with nearly its entire military of 20 million or so. The Federation cannot afford to lose another war. The propaganda funding is too high already.

Thirdly, In character, the UFGZ is terribly worried. They started this war because of a seeming declaration of war. It seems as if they got themselves into yet another mess, and they arent' about to let themselves loose again.

So, no, the Black Fleet is not something I've pulled out of the hat. I've been shaping my country little by little. You didn't think a nation like mine wouldn't have secrets from its own people, now do you?
Germanische Zustande
18-08-2004, 21:40
I have been informed of a war between the ESUS, Shivan Imperium, and IB. I have been asked to join this conflict, and if I should, I would like to ask for a ceasation of hostilities between the UFGZ and MN for a little while.
Mekanta
18-08-2004, 22:44
-OOC-
Withdraw IC and give a reason for wanting an end to hostilities and Neo-Mekanta's forces will let you leave, unharrassed. Just don't cross them again.

And you lucked out. I'm working on a post where Neo-Mekanta will get steal a bunch of Mekantan technology. Namely, the Spacial Distortion Cannon.
Germanische Zustande
18-08-2004, 23:28
Uh... on second thought.... continue the war...
Germanische Zustande
19-08-2004, 23:19
Mekanta the Lazy, I await thee...
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 06:56
I still wait, oh Machinations. Obviously lag has caught up with you.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
20-08-2004, 07:17
No, you just godmod too much.
Mekanta
20-08-2004, 07:23
-OOC-

JJR... There's a little thing called tact...
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 07:26
ooc: heh... I could say that the Shivans godmod because they have such great tech... My tech is nothing compared to Kanuckistan, CF, Mekanta, etc...
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 07:34
And, if it's about the Reagan, we spent 81 NS years on it... the entire military budget. and we had LOTS of help...
Central Facehuggeria
20-08-2004, 13:27
And, if it's about the Reagan, we spent 81 NS years on it... the entire military budget. and we had LOTS of help...

If you spent the entire military budget on it...How exactly did you afford this 'black fleet' you're talking about? Oh, and I only have one system even remotely similar to these ones you're putting out. And the counter to it doesn't even require any technology! Just some common sense!

Also note that your Tech is too advanced for a nation of your size, especially one who has just spent just about all your military budget for the last eighty years on an ubership.
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 22:38
Just because the entire military budget was spent on the Reagan doesn't mean funds couldn't be diverted from other areas, that and the ship was completed about a month (RL) ago (not exactly sure...)...

Second... With all the funds and supplies left over from the help of 4-10 nations (I think they were all larger than me) plus the workforce that had been working on the Reagan, 20-50 ships then wouldn't have been such a problem to construct. With the recent upgrades to the Federal Shipyards a little over a year (NS) ago, another 60 or so ships wouldn't have been hard to come by. And, with an expected total fleet of 800 vessels in four (NS) years, that will be only one ship per 1.125 million people (expecting a population of nearly 900 mil by then).

So:

The Federal Fleet: 300 ships
The Black Fleet: 200 ships
System Defense Fleets: 150 ships
Reserve Fleet (non-operational): 150 ships

Third: What does size have to do with Tech Level? The Germans in WWII were much more advanced than the rest of the world, and they were much smaller than America or Russia. Japan today is churning out ever-advancing civilian technology, much higher than most other larger nations. Look at China. Huge nation, and it's 30 years or more behind America, Japan, Israel, Britain, Germany, etc...
Germanische Zustande
20-08-2004, 22:55
Bump... so that all can see my reasons why I am not a godmodder...
Central Facehuggeria
21-08-2004, 04:31
Just because the entire military budget was spent on the Reagan doesn't mean funds couldn't be diverted from other areas, that and the ship was completed about a month (RL) ago (not exactly sure...)...

Second... With all the funds and supplies left over from the help of 4-10 nations (I think they were all larger than me) plus the workforce that had been working on the Reagan, 20-50 ships then wouldn't have been such a problem to construct. With the recent upgrades to the Federal Shipyards a little over a year (NS) ago, another 60 or so ships wouldn't have been hard to come by. And, with an expected total fleet of 800 vessels in four (NS) years, that will be only one ship per 1.125 million people (expecting a population of nearly 900 mil by then).

So:

The Federal Fleet: 300 ships
The Black Fleet: 200 ships
System Defense Fleets: 150 ships
Reserve Fleet (non-operational): 150 ships

Third: What does size have to do with Tech Level? The Germans in WWII were much more advanced than the rest of the world, and they were much smaller than America or Russia. Japan today is churning out ever-advancing civilian technology, much higher than most other larger nations. Look at China. Huge nation, and it's 30 years or more behind America, Japan, Israel, Britain, Germany, etc...

First: So you're saying you neglected other areas of funding, such as health care, transportation maintence, et cetera?

Second: Who are these other nations? They built this fleet for you then?

Third: In NS, size has alot to deal with tech level. A bigger nation with a reasonable economy will usually be more advanced than a smaller nation by sheer virtue of the fact that they have more people, and hence more scientists to work towards a particular technology. They also tend to have more money to throw around.

But I wasn't objecting to that so much as the fact that your nation simply couldn't afford to develope such shields in the time you've taken. Since you gave all your military budget to your ubership, other military related projects must have been neglected. Thus, you would only just be getting these shields out of the prototype stage even now, as you began putting more funding into military R&D and production after construction of your Reagan. It would take quite a bit of time to create and especially implement that sort of technology in your ships.
Germanische Zustande
21-08-2004, 06:45
Well, those nations did not necessarily build the ship for me, they just contributed funds and materials and workers.

Second, we may have cut out some funding from Civil Institutions, such as starport maintenance, maybe "convinced" businesses to donate funds, etc...

I'm assuming that at least a two years transpired between the defeat at Normandeicht and the declaration of war against Neo-Mekanta. This would allow for the new Shivan-Hunter class Frigate to be developed, as well as the Battle Data to be studied and new technologies to be developed.

When the Machine Fleet issued its ultimatum, High Admiral Fritz Schumacher asked if all ships had the Phase-Shielding on-line. At that point I should have expressed that he hoped that it would work, as the shields had not been battle tested. As was said, the shields did overload, and as a consequence, many vessels were vaporized.

So, yes. I should have said they were prototypes, and they have performed admirably so far.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 02:49
Just sittin' here waitin' for them dog-gone machine crittrs...
Mekanta
23-08-2004, 03:23
-OOC-
For speaking Southerner, I fine you another day of waiting.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 03:25
Just another cover for your laziness...
Gronde
23-08-2004, 15:05
Just because the entire military budget was spent on the Reagan doesn't mean funds couldn't be diverted from other areas, that and the ship was completed about a month (RL) ago (not exactly sure...)...

Second... With all the funds and supplies left over from the help of 4-10 nations (I think they were all larger than me) plus the workforce that had been working on the Reagan, 20-50 ships then wouldn't have been such a problem to construct. With the recent upgrades to the Federal Shipyards a little over a year (NS) ago, another 60 or so ships wouldn't have been hard to come by. And, with an expected total fleet of 800 vessels in four (NS) years, that will be only one ship per 1.125 million people (expecting a population of nearly 900 mil by then).

So:

The Federal Fleet: 300 ships
The Black Fleet: 200 ships
System Defense Fleets: 150 ships
Reserve Fleet (non-operational): 150 ships

Third: What does size have to do with Tech Level? The Germans in WWII were much more advanced than the rest of the world, and they were much smaller than America or Russia. Japan today is churning out ever-advancing civilian technology, much higher than most other larger nations. Look at China. Huge nation, and it's 30 years or more behind America, Japan, Israel, Britain, Germany, etc...

The thing is, most larger nations want to make sure that they are forever dominant over everyone else. Thus they yell GODMOD whenever a smaller nation comes up with new tech that they don't know how to fight easily, or finds a way to actually threaten their position, whether or not the smaller nation was godmodding or not.

CF: Well, for one, I would have sent financial aid to GZ during some of his fighting with the Shivans.
East Coast Federation
23-08-2004, 15:22
OOC: I think your fleet is about 50 ships to big, You can have one uber ship. But no more. Just don't go around building another Reagan.
Central Facehuggeria
23-08-2004, 21:31
The thing is, most larger nations want to make sure that they are forever dominant over everyone else. Thus they yell GODMOD whenever a smaller nation comes up with new tech that they don't know how to fight easily, or finds a way to actually threaten their position, whether or not the smaller nation was godmodding or not.

CF: Well, for one, I would have sent financial aid to GZ during some of his fighting with the Shivans.

Okay, what are the disadvantages of GZ's 'nothingspace' shields? How can they be defeated? If they can't, it's a godmod.

And Gronde, even if you provided funding, it would still take a large amount of time to develope the shields, and to test them before distributing them through GZ's fleet.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 22:31
Okay. There are many nations with enormously more advanced tech. In the battle for Normandeicht, my attacks against the Shiva were largely ignored, most likely because they had this same mentality:

That nation can't do anything to me. I'm much more advanced, much more powerful, etc...

So, even though I did have weapons capable of harming the Shiva, namely the PPCs, I did no damage to the Shiva. It was only Kanuckistan and one other I believe whose attempts on the Shiva were actually successful.

The Shields do have a weakness, however, I am not going to disclose them, because I know that some nation will suddenly develop a counter. I would be happy to TG them to Gronde, should he wish it, then he could verify for me that the shields were in fact not a godmod. I think that only a few nations have the technology to bypass my shields, so if other nations don't, too bad. Just because it can't be defeated by anything you have doesn't make it a godmod. You have to think, be creative, come up with a way to defeat it. What do you think I'm doing?

Second, the shields were only put in place on the Federal Fleet (Main) in the beginning. All other ships were upgraded eventually. The small fleet I sent to aid TFU was outfitted with the new shields and weapons technology shortly before dispatch.

Third, in times of war, researchers can do a heck of a lot in very little time. The A-Bomb took 4 years. I'm sure that my scientists, seeing that the fate of the Federation rests in its technology, would work much harder to develop new devices. Risks have to be taken, and if the shields haven't been battle tested, if they did fine in the lab tests, well, "Its all we've got, use it."
Mekanta
23-08-2004, 22:33
-OOC-
GZ, bad example. The Shivans are largely seen as godmoders. By comparing your technology to thiers, you don't help your case any.
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 22:38
Well then, I guess I'm showing that through their godmodding, I lost 24 ships and a planet!
Germanische Zustande
23-08-2004, 23:04
And on today's, "The Young and the Dying," will Neo-Mekanta ever respond?
Mekanta
23-08-2004, 23:08
-OOC-
I was going to, but it's a lot more fun to sit here and watch you squirm and whine. ^_^

Neo-Mekanta already has SDC tech, so I can Trance the tech onto Neo-Mekanta's ships, along with some other gems taken from Mekanta.

But I feel like being evil now. Besides, your one day fine for speaking southerner hasn't expired yet. (And you probably thought I was joking about that.)
Central Facehuggeria
24-08-2004, 00:07
Okay. There are many nations with enormously more advanced tech. In the battle for Normandeicht, my attacks against the Shiva were largely ignored, most likely because they had this same mentality:

That nation can't do anything to me. I'm much more advanced, much more powerful, etc...

So, even though I did have weapons capable of harming the Shiva, namely the PPCs, I did no damage to the Shiva. It was only Kanuckistan and one other I believe whose attempts on the Shiva were actually successful.

Shivans are godmoders. Bad example. But, so you know in the future, Kanuckistan and I were the only two to actually do damage to the Shiva. Also, what the hell is a PPC?

The Shields do have a weakness, however, I am not going to disclose them, because I know that some nation will suddenly develop a counter. I would be happy to TG them to Gronde, should he wish it, then he could verify for me that the shields were in fact not a godmod. I think that only a few nations have the technology to bypass my shields, so if other nations don't, too bad. Just because it can't be defeated by anything you have doesn't make it a godmod. You have to think, be creative, come up with a way to defeat it. What do you think I'm doing?

I already have several counters. FTLi for one, phase blockers for another, Barrier-Stasis fields, the list goes on. I'm objecting to these shields due to the fact that you need special technology to beat them. When you need a particular technobabbel device to beat a shield system, it's too...wanked out. What if you went to war with a smaller nation, one who just got into space? What option would they have, except to lose?

Second, the shields were only put in place on the Federal Fleet (Main) in the beginning. All other ships were upgraded eventually. The small fleet I sent to aid TFU was outfitted with the new shields and weapons technology shortly before dispatch.

That's okay. My fleet was recently refitted as well.

Third, in times of war, researchers can do a heck of a lot in very little time. The A-Bomb took 4 years. I'm sure that my scientists, seeing that the fate of the Federation rests in its technology, would work much harder to develop new devices. Risks have to be taken, and if the shields haven't been battle tested, if they did fine in the lab tests, well, "Its all we've got, use it."

The A-bomb itself took four years. The supporting technologies and scientific theories took many more years.

Building a functional interdimensional shield generator (like what these 'nothingspace shields' seem to be) would take FAR longer than an atomic bomb to make. You have to have experience with interdimensional FTL for one, then you have to have a drive that can remain on for hours on end, then you have to have a reactor that can actually power that drive for hours on end, then you... you get the picture. Making shields of this nature isn't as easy as a comparatively simple reflection/refraction/asorbtion shield.
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 02:05
First off, I would never go to war with a helpless nation. I formed the USF to prevent things like that. And, even if I did, I'm sure other nations would step in to help the nation I attacked.

Second, the shield essentially removes the vessel from the T/S continuum. No Inter-dimensional device would affect anything inside. One way to bypass the shields is to !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*(). The shields have to be dropped momentarily to fire weapons. Like I said, I'd be happy to TG Indra Prime or Gronde about the theory of the shields and its weaknesses, so that they could verify.

Thirdly, technology isn't hard to find on intergalactic information nets. That and with all the research done in between the Juumo-Germanic war and the Shivan War, we would have a significant technological base.
Central Facehuggeria
24-08-2004, 02:21
First off, I would never go to war with a helpless nation. I formed the USF to prevent things like that. And, even if I did, I'm sure other nations would step in to help the nation I attacked.

Second, the shield essentially removes the vessel from the T/S continuum. No Inter-dimensional device would affect anything inside. One way to bypass the shields is to !@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*()!@#$%^&*(). The shields have to be dropped momentarily to fire weapons. Like I said, I'd be happy to TG Indra Prime or Gronde about the theory of the shields and its weaknesses, so that they could verify.

Thirdly, technology isn't hard to find on intergalactic information nets. That and with all the research done in between the Juumo-Germanic war and the Shivan War, we would have a significant technological base.


Wait a second...these are temporal shields!? I see. I was completely wrong, most of the counters I proposed wouldn't work there. However, some of the tech I got from Indra will, as well as some of my other tech. Stasis-Barrier fields will work, but the FTLi won't for instance.

Of course, using temporal technology like that is a sure way to get you on the blacklist of the temporal accord. On second thought, please TG Indra the information about your shields. I'm sure he'll be very...intrested in them...

These devices being temporal based is a whole new can of worms. You can't just go down to your local internet cafe and download information on temporal devices. That tech is kept under extreme lock and key by Indra and other 'certified temporal nations.'

And then you still have to have the supporting technologies, the powerful energy cores, etc. Temporal shielding takes an even higher tech level than the interdimensional shielding I thought you possessed before.
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 02:26
I wouldn't say exactly that they're temporal, as we actually don't mess with the flow of time in the universe, other than the fact that the ship technically doesn't exist while the shield is up...

But, about the tech base, I'm saying that we had plenty of time to work on this. I'd say about 150 years....

Second, we have the power, but only for a few hours. The shields then have to be dropped in order to recharge. We need to develop energy tech...
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 02:52
bump...
Mekanta
24-08-2004, 02:55
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You're fined another indeterminate amount of time. Why? Because I'm 3D modelling.

Yes, just for that. That, and the fact I'm an evil SOB who likes seeing you squirm.
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 02:56
You're just afraid of losing.
Mekanta
24-08-2004, 02:59
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No, I have the SDC now.

I'm just lazy and preoccupied with trying to figure out DOGA.

And it's easier not distracting you from arguing with CF.
Indra Prime
24-08-2004, 05:46
I wouldn't say exactly that they're temporal, as we actually don't mess with the flow of time in the universe, other than the fact that the ship technically doesn't exist while the shield is up...

But, about the tech base, I'm saying that we had plenty of time to work on this. I'd say about 150 years....

Second, we have the power, but only for a few hours. The shields then have to be dropped in order to recharge. We need to develop energy tech...

OOC: Just because you do not necessarily mess with the STC, doesnt mean that anyform of technological development in the field that would either manipulate, remove or adjust an objects reaction to the STC is not Temporal Technology. The Temporal Accord was written to prevent any development of technology that would have the ability to seriously affect the STC. With your level of development, your shielding at extreme most could only be at level 4 or lower. You probably use level 2 or 3 temporal shielding, which would not be a threat to the STC under the laws of the Temporal Accord. Each level of Temporal Development requires exponential inceases in knowledge of the fundamentals of Temporal Mechanics. In order to gain a higher level in that field, above level 5, you would have to do extensive research in the STC, which would basically send up a nuclear signal flare for us to see. And not to mince words, but in the time it would take you to do the first step in research, the intervention of Indra Prime would have already taken place. Not only would our interest become sparked, but the nations who have signed the Temporal Accord will also be monitoring the situation, though not at the same capable level as us. I strongly suggest everyone reads the Temporal Accord and become very familiar with it, and sign it. You can find it here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346985). Enough of that, time to get IC.

IC: The situation that was unfolding before the task force was not exactly what the Indran Space Command had boosted up as esential to the security of national security. Brigadier General Dustin Valamovy sat in his command chair on board the Retribution, the lead vessel in the task force of three Retribution Class Temporal Dreadnaughts. Task force Rho had been ordered to this sector of space to monitor the situation as it unfolded though the situation was anything but ordinary. Despite the incredible lack of action, the task force was sent because the Temporal Observatory detected signs of fledgling Temporal development, so High Command decided to send a fleet that would be able to take care of any form of threat that may arise.

Gen. Valamovy watched the forward holographic display as the tensions grew between the nations currently in the sector. The three Retribution Class Vessels were in a polar orbit over the sun in the system, and cloaked, so they were able to monitor the situation without being detected. He thought that the deployment of one of these vessels was a complete overkill, not to mention three of them. They were the most advanced vessels to date with enough firepower to completely screw up the STC for the rest of eternity. They sat in stationkeeping orbits, in a loose formation ready to take on the threat when it became relavant to their mission. All they had to do now was wait and see.
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 07:43
The Federal Fleet had recharged its Nothingspace Shields. The systems were reactivated, and the entire fleet disappeared.

Federal Vessels reappeared near the Mekantan warships, unleashing everything they had and then slipping away from this universe again...

The Federation would not lose again. It would not stop until its enemies knew that the Federation would do anything to acheive victory. It would strike fear into the hearts of its enemies, so that they would know:

The Federation would do as much damage as possible. Whatever the cost.
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 23:11
ooc: I know that ^^^^ that is somewhat cheezy, but, hey... It's a post, and it's kinda general, and, well, I guess I kinda like cheezy...
Germanische Zustande
24-08-2004, 23:35
bump.
Indra Prime
24-08-2004, 23:50
Despite his long, distinguished military career, General Valamovy was glad for this change of pace. Just a simple recon mission, although supported by three of the best ships in the Indran Fleet, it was still a simple recon mission with little action required. Suddenly, a hologram came to life over a subsidiary console on the multitiered bridge. The hologram was one of the ship. It appeared to spin slowly while pulsing a red glow eminated from the aft quarter of the vessel. From the distance he was at, Valamovy could see that the glow was coming from the section of the ship that contained alot of the primary devices that protected the ship. The Lieutenant sitting at that station called up a secondary display and began to scroll through the information faster than any human could. General Valamovy would never trade in the holographic crewmembers he had for flesh and blood for any price, they were too valuable to let go. The holographic Lieutenant looked up at the General and began to make her information known to him.

"General, reports are coming in from both the primary and secondary quantum cloak chambers. It appears that an overload has been detected and is causing the cloak to lose integrity. So far reports are sketchy as to the cause, but apparently a quantum gravitational wave just passed through this system and over loaded the matrix. Engineering reports that the cloak will overload in four hours. We will be able to shut it down and prevent any damage to the cloak only in the next three hours. Any time after that will cause permanent damage to the crystal structure of the core. Temporary actions we can take would be to purge the cloak, though it may make us slightly visible to any sensors tuned to the gravitational field."

The General though over the problem and decided it was worth the risk. WHo knows, perhaps he would even be able to see a little action on this little reconnaissance mission.

"Very well. Major Lockhart, purge the cloak every fifteen minutes, but rotate the ejection port used each time so no one can get a fix on our specific location, and it would look like a natural phenomenon."

"Aye, aye sir."


The Retribution began the purge cycle, and momentarily became slightly detectable to sensors in the area, were any of them paying attention. But as soon as she purged the cloak, she dissapeared again, ducking behind the protective barrier that kept her from any prying eyes.
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 00:06
High Admiral Schumacher stood over the central Holopanel, closely watching the hit-and-run tactics he had ordered the Fleet to begin... Green dots appeared here and there, the red that spewed from them indicating weapons fire...

Behind him he heard the ping of a Priority Two message, and he simply waited for the woman at the Communications panel to draw it to his attention...

After attempting to deal with the communication as best she could, she finally called the Admiral over. "Admiral, I think you should listen to this. The Science Ship Turicht is asking for you..."

And there it was. It had taken her a little longer than usual, but Fritz didn't mind. "Patch it over the Bridge Comm."

"This is the Federated Star Ship Turicht, We have detected a gravitiational disturbance near the star of this system. It may be a Shivan probe sir, we don't know. We are requesting permission to break from the fleet to investigate. Everyn out."

Fritz pondered this new information over... If Shivans were watching the battle, were they studying Federal tactics? Weapons? Was it even Shivan?

"Tactical, give the Turicht the goahead to check out the disturbance, but it must remain under Nothingspace shields the entire way. I also want two frigates assigned to escort her to the star, should any Mekantan vessels detect them."

"Aye, sir," came Tactical's response.

The Admiral turned back to stare at the circular Holoemmitter, once again engrossed in the battle.
Gronde
25-08-2004, 02:30
Okay. There are many nations with enormously more advanced tech. In the battle for Normandeicht, my attacks against the Shiva were largely ignored, most likely because they had this same mentality:

That nation can't do anything to me. I'm much more advanced, much more powerful, etc...

So, even though I did have weapons capable of harming the Shiva, namely the PPCs, I did no damage to the Shiva. It was only Kanuckistan and one other I believe whose attempts on the Shiva were actually successful.

The Shields do have a weakness, however, I am not going to disclose them, because I know that some nation will suddenly develop a counter. I would be happy to TG them to Gronde, should he wish it, then he could verify for me that the shields were in fact not a godmod. I think that only a few nations have the technology to bypass my shields, so if other nations don't, too bad. Just because it can't be defeated by anything you have doesn't make it a godmod. You have to think, be creative, come up with a way to defeat it. What do you think I'm doing?

Second, the shields were only put in place on the Federal Fleet (Main) in the beginning. All other ships were upgraded eventually. The small fleet I sent to aid TFU was outfitted with the new shields and weapons technology shortly before dispatch.

Third, in times of war, researchers can do a heck of a lot in very little time. The A-Bomb took 4 years. I'm sure that my scientists, seeing that the fate of the Federation rests in its technology, would work much harder to develop new devices. Risks have to be taken, and if the shields haven't been battle tested, if they did fine in the lab tests, well, "Its all we've got, use it."

Yeah, send me the info on the shields. I will give you some constructive feedback if neccisary.
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 06:09
ooc: Gronde, it was worked out. Thanks though.

ic:

The Turicht and its Frigate Escorts had just barely made it to a stable orbit around the star.

Captain Everyn sat in his Repuslorchair and waited impatiently for the results of the preliminary scans. His fingers tapped out the Federation War Anthem as he anxiously awaited the padd...

"Sir, the anomaly appears to be appearing in precise 15 minute cycles. We have run every possible test, and I think whatever is casuing it is man-made. I suggest we probe it with an anti-proton beam right when the phenomena occurs."

The lieutenant handed him the scan results.

After zipping through the report, Everyn exhaled. Loudly. "Have the Frigates go to Priority Alert, then go ahead with your plan."

The small science ship began to run more scans, and then, to a trillionth of a second at the fifteenth minute, the tiny ship emmitted a low-level anti-proton beam right where the Phenomena was predicted to be.

The beam seemed only to fade into the blackness of space, however, there... Where the phenomena was... A reflection...

"Sir!" science shouted, "Something is reflecting the anti-proton beam!"

"Dear my... stop the scan!"
Axis Nova
25-08-2004, 06:21
The thing is, most larger nations want to make sure that they are forever dominant over everyone else. Thus they yell GODMOD whenever a smaller nation comes up with new tech that they don't know how to fight easily, or finds a way to actually threaten their position, whether or not the smaller nation was godmodding or not.

CF: Well, for one, I would have sent financial aid to GZ during some of his fighting with the Shivans.


quoted for truth
Germanische Zustande
25-08-2004, 15:56
Mekanta, come on. This has lasted long enough. Just post.
Central Facehuggeria
25-08-2004, 21:16
quoted for truth
Scratches head for WTF?

*Yawns* I wonder when Mekanta will be finished with his sneaky and dastardly plan.
Mekanta
26-08-2004, 06:38
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I AM (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6874831#post6874831). <--URL

Now you see WHY I've been delaying you. Now with your fleet tied down here and with the TFU war, what're you going to do? Break ships off of the battle at Gorugathka and go "counter"attack against Mekanta (since there's no IC way of knowing Neo-Mekanta did it other than OMG I PULLED A DATADISK OUT OF ASS SPACE) or wait for the Neos to pull the same thing, this time keeping forces there longer?

Kee hee hee...
Germanische Zustande
26-08-2004, 07:06
ooc: Note: I do not curse, and as such I shall not cuss out Mekanta. Second, when I get around to it, most likely tomorrow, I'll write out Schumacher's reaction. Heh heh...
The Horned Rat
27-08-2004, 04:44
Hello, I just found this on my website, Gronde, care to update me on what is happening?(any secret/new stuff being used by both side?)
Also, a list of whos allied with who, where this is, and other necessary info would be REALLY nice.