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Austar Union to Host Talks: Founding a Warmongering Alliance [Talks Sign-Up Thread]

Austar Union
03-08-2004, 07:47
People from across the globe;

The day is over when nations have supreme power over others. The day is over when a larger nation, has a stronger voice than one which is smaller. This is the age of alliances.

How many times have you gone into a conflict, only to be held off by an alliance of smaller nations? How many times have you been bothered by a group of nations which individually would be harmless, but together they seem to hold a stronger voice diplomatically? Isnt it troubling that the smaller nations are gathering together, and enforcing their inexperience of world politics onto the global community.

Today friends, I say that we counter the growing.... annoyance. I am calling for the world powers to unite under one banner. No longer will we have to conceed to the voice of the smaller and inexperienced. Together, working as a united force, we can strenthen our diplomatic voice, so that we no longer are troubled by the fools who currently bother our world. You will all see larger nations, being troubled by the weak. And because the weak are united, they prevail. Today we make a stand. It is time for the strong to unite together, so that we may conquer this troublesome plauge once and for all time.

Therefore, I am inviting all nations (500 Million Population Plus), to send delegates to Anatoba City, so that we may discuss the terms of this possible alliance, and afterwards, unite under the banner of nations who are not willing to conceed to the weak.

OOC: Technically, you dont really know that this is a warmongering alliance that I plan to create. The only thing that you do know of it is from what I said in my speech (above). Of course, you can make your own judgements, but based only on that information.

If you want to attend the conference which will be most likely opened in a few days, then by all means, please make a post below. Note, you must have a 500 Million Plus Nation, nothing below. If you think you deserve to be an exception, then still post, but I will mainly judge a nation based on its RP skill, and if it has a very bad history, though history will play a minor role in your acceptance to the conference.
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 07:52
OOC: Wait...so this is going to be an alliance where the members "warmonger"? Am I understanding this right?
Axis Nova
03-08-2004, 07:52
Axis Nova will be sending a delegate immediately. Expect him within 96 hours.

Axis Nova State Department
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 07:55
OOC: Wait...so this is going to be an alliance where the members "warmonger"? Am I understanding this right?

OOC: Basically, it will be an alliance where members can use the strength of the alliance to push their weight around on the world stage, through joint manoevers etc. This can be sometimes recognised as being warmongering / aggressive.
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 07:57
OOC: Basically, it will be an alliance where members can use the strength of the alliance to push their weight around on the world stage, through joint manoevers etc. This can be sometimes recognised as being warmongering / aggressive.


OOC: Then I might have to decline....
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 07:58
Axis Nova will be sending a delegate immediately. Expect him within 96 hours.

Axis Nova State Department

The delegate from Axis Nova will be welcomed with warm hands, as we have always had positive relations with the Novan people.
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 08:01
OOC: Then I might have to decline....

OOC: Thats ok, I dont mind if you choose to check it out, or not. I dont think it would really matter too much on our outcome. Of course, you nation's history does show a history of being aggressive when Damien was at his peak, and to be honest I do think this would be fitting to the likes of Automagfreek and even Pantera. Of course, its still your choice....
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 08:04
OOC: Thats ok, I dont mind if you choose to check it out, or not. I dont think it would really matter too much on our outcome. Of course, you nation's history does show a history of being aggressive when Damien was at his peak, and to be honest I do think this would be fitting to the likes of Automagfreek and even Pantera. Of course, its still your choice....


OOC: I'd consider it, but me and Pantera aren't really warmongers. We pick and choose our fights, we don't just go around swinging blindly. I'll keep an eye on this thread and let you know.
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 08:09
OOC: I'd consider it, but me and Pantera aren't really warmongers. We pick and choose our fights, we don't just go around swinging blindly. I'll keep an eye on this thread and let you know.

OOC: Thats cool. I agree that swinging blindly is stupid. I would expect that a large function of this would be also to act as a joint intelligence organisation. If its gonna be as aggressive as I hope, it needs to know whats happening in the world.

The thread will most likely be open for a few days, but if you decide to take longer, im sure I can allow a few late entrys for special guests ;)
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 08:37
Nations Confirming Attendance
Austar Union [HOST]
Axis Nova
Terronian
Iuthia
Praetonia
Lauterburg
Raginsheep
Automagfreek
Sarzonia
Shinoxia
Derscon
Sdaeriji
Kelanis
Tyrandis
IDF
Hamptonshire

Nations Considering (Not Yet Confirmed)
Pantera (NOTE: Only from observation of Automagfreek's considerations)
Terronian
03-08-2004, 09:01
Terronian and its poeple will love to join the llaince. Dimitri tabolov, Duchy of Terronian will be attending the meeting.
Canan
03-08-2004, 09:14
OOC: Basically, it will be an alliance where members can use the strength of the alliance to push their weight around on the world stage, through joint manoevers etc. This can be sometimes recognised as being warmongering / aggressive.


So really all you are doing is creating the equivelant of the school yard bully. Well, good luck stealing the perverbial lunch money.
Holy panooly
03-08-2004, 09:19
A warmongering alliance? What a ridiculous concept.
Iuthia
03-08-2004, 09:19
If we would be permitted, we would like to send our most esteemed representative, Ambassidor Kayla Harmone, to these talks to observe the creation of such a... warmongering... alliance.

We suspect that your PR people have probably advertised these talks in a manner which may be conceived in a bad light as warmongering is more the act of searching for war, where your alliance seems to be more about creating a political power backed with military might... not something which looks for wars, something which removes the need for wars by making them too costly for those you deal with.

In anycase we would be interested in seeing what your nation has to offer and how it may appeal to us.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 09:25
If we would be permitted, we would like to send our most esteemed representative, Ambassidor Kayla Harmone, to these talks to observe the creation of such a... warmongering... alliance.

We suspect that your PR people have probably advertised these talks in a manner which may be conceived in a bad light as warmongering is more the act of searching for war, where your alliance seems to be more about creating a political power backed with military might... not something which looks for wars, something which removes the need for wars by making them too costly for those you deal with.

In anycase we would be interested in seeing what your nation has to offer and how it may appeal to us.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

Yes, perhaps our wording was perhaps misleading. This would not be an alliance which is just looking for war, as the name misleads, but as Iuthia stated, it would be an alliance which combines political power with military backing. Maybe this will be seen as aggressive, maybe this will be seen as a finer step towards achieving world peace through order.

The Iuthian delegate is free to observe the proceedings of this conference, as are all members of the world. To the Terronians, we would be honored for your presense at the conference.
Praetonia
03-08-2004, 10:34
The Democratic Imperium will sent a delegate to this conference. Note that this should not be taken as an expression of intent either to join or not to join this alliance.
Lauterburg
03-08-2004, 11:00
The Imperial government of Lauterburg will send a delegation to observe the process. If there is something to be had in this arrangement, we will act accordingly.
Raginsheep
03-08-2004, 11:25
Raginsheep is interested in sending a delegation for observation purposes.
Unified Sith
03-08-2004, 12:25
Unified Sith will gladly send an Ambassador.
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 14:38
:BUMP: Updated the List of Attendees :BUMP:
Austar Union
03-08-2004, 14:43
Unified Sith will gladly send an Ambassador.

REJECTED! We will not have diplomatic interest with a nation planning to invade the Austar Union.
Automagfreek
03-08-2004, 18:22
If we would be permitted, we would like to send our most esteemed representative, Ambassidor Kayla Harmone, to these talks to observe the creation of such a... warmongering... alliance.

We suspect that your PR people have probably advertised these talks in a manner which may be conceived in a bad light as warmongering is more the act of searching for war, where your alliance seems to be more about creating a political power backed with military might... not something which looks for wars, something which removes the need for wars by making them too costly for those you deal with.

In anycase we would be interested in seeing what your nation has to offer and how it may appeal to us.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

If these are indeed the true intentions of this alliance, then we will be sending a delegate. In fact, Lord Dreadfire himself will be attending.

http://67.18.37.14/40/9/upload/p968858.jpg
The One Who Shall Remain Unnamed
[-Lord of the Death Dealers-
Servant of the Dread Fires
Sarzonia
03-08-2004, 18:39
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia wishes to send Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber to the conference to observe and possibly consider admission. If we do apply, admission would have to be confirmed by a majority vote in the House of Delegates.
Scoyle
03-08-2004, 19:26
The Armed Republic of Scoyle is sending a 4 star general to the talks on this subject.
Shinoxia
03-08-2004, 19:37
OOC: Scoyle, aren't you too small?

IC:

Shinoxia too has been bothered by small nations banding together, we will be sending Kommandant Victor O'Moore to attend the conference.

If he likes what he sees at the conference, Shinoxia will join your Alliance.

High King of Shinoxia
James O'Kelly
Derscon
03-08-2004, 19:41
The Foreign Ministry of Derscon will be sending a delegate, but I would like to express that the sending of a delegate does not mean that we will be joining at the moment.

Alliances are carefully thought out within the Prussian Czardom, and the Foreign Ministry must ensure that there are no conflicts-of-intrest in multiple alliances.

May you be blessed with God's Grace.

General (retired) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom
Sdaeriji
03-08-2004, 19:49
If it pleases the hosts of these talks, the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji will send a delegation to participate, headed by the Chairman of the Army, Guidell Fanter, and my Deputy Chairman of Foriegn Relations, Rappor Ernazion. The Imperial Dominion is very excited at the prospects of this potential new alliance.

Respectfully,
Chairman Ilsuo Santite
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji
Doujin
03-08-2004, 19:50
AU, you and your alliances. You create a bunch then you move on -.-
Kelanis
03-08-2004, 20:00
Kelanis will send a delegate to the conference.
Austar Union
04-08-2004, 04:08
We are proud to update the list of nations who are attending, adding:

Automagfreek
Sarzonia
Shinoxia
Derscon
Sdaeriji
Kelanis


The Armed Republic of Scoyle is sending a 4 star general to the talks on this subject.

We are very sorry, but your nation does not meet the criterea for these talks. After careful consideration, it does not warrent an exemption to that criterea. No offense is intended. Thankyou.
Tyrandis
04-08-2004, 04:18
The Imperial Triumvirate is highly interested in this alliance, and wishes to send our Director of Foreign Affairs Tifa Lockhart to the confrence.
Austar Union
04-08-2004, 04:38
The Republic would be honored to have a Tyrandi presence at the conference...

OOC: Sorry, I dont know the plural, so I just guessed :S
IDF
04-08-2004, 04:42
IDF will send experienced diplomat Ted Williams to the meeting and hopefully join the alliance.

He will be happy to be the 1st IDF citizen to ever meet the famed and legendary "One who shall remain Unamed." He is very curious about that man.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
04-08-2004, 05:10
I might be interested. These alliances of small creatures are quite annoying. One wasp is easily squashed. 20 easily squashes you.
Hamptonshire
04-08-2004, 05:17
Once again, the Grand Duchy will send a representative to Anatoba to discuss the creation of a new alliance. Grand Duke Reginald Leopold I himself will lead our diplomatic team to Austar Union.
Austar Union
04-08-2004, 05:36
OOC: Updated the list...

JJR, im not sure whether or not to add you. You meet the requirements for size, but you need to brush up on those RP skills. So im a bit hesitant. Give me time and ill make a desison.
Axis Nova
06-08-2004, 00:14
bump
Tyrandis
06-09-2004, 15:49
So I guess this alliance is off then? :(
Praetonia
06-09-2004, 15:51
It's a shame, this looked quite good. Perhaps if we changed the venue, as AU appears to have dissappeared...
Tyrandis
06-09-2004, 16:01
It's a shame, this looked quite good. Perhaps if we changed the venue, as AU appears to have dissappeared...

Well... I know I certainly can't host it due to small size. Anyone else care for reviving this alliance?
Dracun imperium
06-09-2004, 16:12
ooc:I will revive if you guys want it is a shame I was hoping to join it now
The Parthians
06-09-2004, 17:56
The Shahdom of the Parthians would like to send a representative to this confrence.
Hamptonshire
06-09-2004, 21:30
Official Statement from the Office of the Prime Minister

As a nation with close relation with Austar Union in the past and as a nation that sees this Alliance as a potential bedrock of its foreign policy, the Grand Duchy of Hamptonshire will host the Alliance Conference. While some nations may not join under the new banner of Hamptonian leadership in the creation of this Alliance, the Grand Duchy will not sit back as an organization with such potential is dead before it is even born.

We hope what within a few weeks (later this calander week), delegates from the nations that have expressed interest in this Alliance will come together in Hamptonshire City to discuss the terms of this Alliance and to join together under the banner of strength through unity.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/hamptonshire/Wellington.jpg
Crown Prince Louis Cessar
Prime Minister
Acting Defense Minister
Bonstock
06-09-2004, 21:34
The Federal Republic will not stand by and watch if the alliance of imperialist warmongers lives up to its name. The Bonstocknian government will watch these events closely, and prays that this alliace does not get out of hand. Be warned, a war of agresssion by this alliance will lead to military confrontation with the Federal Republic of Bonstock.
Belem
06-09-2004, 23:21
*tag*

OOC: whats going on with the alliance?
Hamptonshire
06-09-2004, 23:58
*tag*

OOC: whats going on with the alliance?

OOC: As indicated by an above post, I'll be "taking" it over. We'll have the meeting toward the end of the week.
The Island of Rose
07-09-2004, 00:02
OOC: As indicated by an above post, I'll be "taking" it over. We'll have the meeting toward the end of the week.


((OOC: An alliance for nations that go to war without diplomacy... no thank you. Eh, even my allies are joining <_>))
Hamptonshire
07-09-2004, 00:03
((OOC: An alliance for nations that go to war without diplomacy... no thank you. Eh, even my allies are joining <_>))

OOC: That's not the point of this proposed alliance, look past the title given to it and to its substance.

I will see this alliance as what was said in the IC statement AU made, not as his OCC statement.
The Island of Rose
07-09-2004, 00:13
OOC: That's not the point of this proposed alliance, look past the title given to it and to its substance.

I will see this alliance as what was said in the IC statement AU made, not as his OCC statement.

((OOC: I know. I know. Just put me down as maybe.))
Tyrandis
07-09-2004, 03:05
OOC: The point of this alliance for the idiots that just read the first post:

Yes, perhaps our wording was perhaps misleading. This would not be an alliance which is just looking for war, as the name misleads, but as Iuthia stated, it would be an alliance which combines political power with military backing. Maybe this will be seen as aggressive, maybe this will be seen as a finer step towards achieving world peace through order.

The Iuthian delegate is free to observe the proceedings of this conference, as are all members of the world. To the Terronians, we would be honored for your presense at the conference.
Hamptonshire
07-09-2004, 03:07
OOC: The point of this alliance for the idiots that just read the first post:

Thanks, Tyrandis.
Scoyle
07-09-2004, 14:25
I would like to join. Many of my allies are joining plus I am curious to know if the ESA has been disbanded yet or not.
Dracun imperium
07-09-2004, 15:34
Dracun will unite under Hamptonshire. Emperor Karnos is already beggining preperations to make leave to Hamtonshire.
Sarzonia
07-09-2004, 16:19
As stated previously, Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber will attend. Again, the House of Delegates would have to ratify any agreements and they must be signed by President Mike Sarzo to be fully recognized if Sarzonia should sign.

Mr. Lorber should be very familiar with Hamptonshire City, as he has participated in peace talks there in the past.
Shalrirorchia
07-09-2004, 16:27
The United States of Shalrirorchia is sending a delegate to observe this conference, as it is greatly concerned about the impact on world peace that a militant organization would have.

U.S.S. delegate should arrive shortly.

Change of plans. The ambassador is being recalled. The conference will be attended by Deputy Defense Minister Carlisle Haloran.

-President Tarumigan Aeii Gistarai
United States of Shalrirorchia (Republic of Shalrirorchia)
Hamptonshire
07-09-2004, 18:20
NOTE: Conference will begin tomorrow, midday Pacific Daylight Time. A list of nations attending the conference will be published later today.
Praetonia
07-09-2004, 21:40
Official Statement, Imperial Government

We will attend this conference, however we will mainly be there to observe. The wording of the original speach concerning this alliance and the views of our allies have prevented us from committing ourselves to it at this time. In fact the alliance may change considerably under this new 'leadership', although we do not see how the host of a conference on such an alliance automatically gains the 'leadership' position. This alliance may be deemed unbeneficial for Praetonian interests.
Hamptonshire
08-09-2004, 02:24
Nations Welcome to Attend
Hamptonshire [HOST]
Iuthia
Praetonia
Lauterburg
Raginsheep
Automagfreek
Sarzonia
Shinoxia
Derscon
Sdaeriji
Kelanis
Tyrandis
Dracun imperium
The Island of Rose
Enodscopia
IDF
Wirraway
Rotovia

Nations were picked with regard to size, RPing skill, and reputation. Be advised that coming to the conference does not guarentee membership in the future alliance.
Enodscopia
08-09-2004, 02:41
Can I join I have 560 and some million people.
IDF
08-09-2004, 02:58
I would like to send Secretary of State Ted Phillips to attend.
Hamptonshire
08-09-2004, 04:42
**Accepted Nations List Updated**
Wirraway
08-09-2004, 22:56
The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway would like to join this alliance and also participate in the scheduled talks, we will send our Secretary of State.
The Parthians
09-09-2004, 00:15
Parthia would like to know why Hamptonshire finds Parthia unworthy to send a delegate.
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 00:26
Wirraway- you have been added to the list.


The Parthians- Due to your past and present ties to certain nations and organizations deemed to be of a questionable nature, the Government of the Grand Duchy does not feel that your inclusion in these talks would be benefical.


Link to conference- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6980170#post6980170
The Parthians
09-09-2004, 00:32
Wirraway- you have been added to the list.


The Parthians- Due to your past and present ties to certain nations and organizations deemed to be of a questionable nature, the Government of the Grand Duchy does not feel that your inclusion in these talks would be benefical.


Link to conference- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6980170#post6980170


I shall respect your descision.

Regards,
Shah Khosru III of Parthia.
Wirraway
09-09-2004, 00:37
The Concordiat hopes that the talks go well.
Rotovia
09-09-2004, 04:30
"Rotovia wishes to attend in a purely observatory capacity"

Dr Daniel Hurdts
Hamptonshire Division
Office of State Protocol
Ministry for International Relations

OOC: Haha like hell, I'd like to attend with the intent of joining. Though offically Rotovia needs to clear it's name as a warwonger... for now *shifty eyes*
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 04:40
"Rotovia wishes to attend in a purely observatory capacity"

Dr Daniel Hurdts
Hamptonshire Division
Office of State Protocol
Ministry for International Relations

OOC: Haha like hell, I'd like to attend with the intent of joining. Though offically Rotovia needs to clear it's name as a warwonger... for now *shifty eyes*


Welcome, name added.
Warmongering Lunatics
09-09-2004, 04:41
The High Council of the Federation finds this... intruiging... and would like to send a representative to the talk. Is this acceptable?
-Tarin Verdol, Speaker for the Council
OOC: This is a revived nation, population: 775 million.
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 04:42
The High Council of the Federation finds this... intruiging... and would like to send a representative to the talk. Is this acceptable?
-Tarin Verdol, Speaker for the Council

Unfortunately due to you size and lack of RPs, you cannot. However you can purchase an official transcript of the conference...
Warmongering Lunatics
09-09-2004, 04:45
OOC:
If you want to attend the conference which will be most likely opened in a few days, then by all means, please make a post below. Note, you must have a 500 Million Plus Nation, nothing below. If you think you deserve to be an exception, then still post, but I will mainly judge a nation based on its RP skill, and if it has a very bad history, though history will play a minor role in your acceptance to the conference.
W.L. Federation population: 775 million.
Axis Nova
09-09-2004, 04:45
Axis Nova is still interested in this conference.

Axis Nova
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 04:51
W.L. Federation population: 775 million.

First of all, this "alliance" is under new management. Secondly, you have three posts.

Axis Nova- you can send a rep. to the conference.
Warmongering Lunatics
09-09-2004, 04:54
OOC: This is a revived nation; all posts from before its deletion were removed from the count. It is also one of many under my control, and certainly not the one I use most often. However, if that is your decision, than so be it....
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 04:56
OOC: This is a revived nation; all posts from before its deletion were removed from the count. It is also one of many under my control, and certainly not the one I use most often. However, if that is your decision, than so be it....

Give me some links to previous RPs so I can check you out. You can post them here or TG them to me.
Terronian
09-09-2004, 05:01
OOC:As I stated way back on page 1 or 2, I will be attending the conferance, please PM me when the conferance begins.
Hamptonshire
09-09-2004, 05:02
OOC:As I stated way back on page 1 or 2, I will be attending the conferance, please PM me when the conferance begins.

It's begun *evil music plays in background*
Warmongering Lunatics
09-09-2004, 05:04
I can't search for old W.L. posts, and I don't want to give away the relationship between this and my other nations- I generally (though not always) try to keep my puppets secret.
Ah, well... I'll survive without joining. After all, my first act with this nation (and the one I created it for) was to demand surrender from the world. The only rule was "No weapons of mass destruction, please," and I stuck with the thread, but I managed to survive without even being conquered. I was rather surprised about that....
Shalrirorchia
09-09-2004, 16:11
As the President of the United States of Shalrirorchia, I must admit no small degree of annoyance at being excluded from this meeting, as Shalrirorchia has been involved in peacekeeping operations around the world for the past three years. I see the refusal to admit our envoy as a personal affront to the U.S.S., and will watch this alliance closely in the future.