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Length: 743m
Beam: 265m
Draught: 24m
Crew:: 3,600 Naval; 120 Flag; 600 marines
Displacement: 1,112,497 tonnes (full load)
Speed:: 34knts (cruise) 37knts (max)
Range: Limited only by state of nuclear fuel and consumables
Armament: 9x 30” ETC Naval Cannon (A, B, X and Y positions in triple turrets); 8x 8” Naval Railguns (port / starboard on outrigger hulls, for and aft
in dual turrets); 48x 6” ETC Naval Cannon (amidships; port / starboard in double turrets); 12x 3” Naval Autocannon (conning towers in single turrets);
20x Testudo CIWS; 2x 128cell Ballista VLS (forecastle, conning tower; SAM (tactical length); Javelin; 512 missiles); 1x 512cell Ballista VLS (amidships;
SSM (tactical length); Lance; 1024 missiles); 1x 96cell Ballista VLS (amidships; LoRSOM (Strategic length); Battleaxe; 192 missiles); 4x 512cell
Ballista VLS (amidships; AMM (sub-tactical length); discus; 4096 missiles); 30x 30mm cannon; 60x 12.7mm machineguns
Armour: Titanium and ballistic ceramics. Main side belt: 900mm –
1100mm; deck armor: 800mm; main turret faceplates 1200mm; main turret
sides 1000mm; secondary turrets 950mm; superstructure 800mm; bulkheads
900mm
Helicopters: 12 ASW; 12 EAW / AWACs
Air Search Radar: GO-82 C ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Surface Search Radar: GO-82 D ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Fire Control Radar: GO-83 B ‘Simplex Mk II’ Phased Array
ASW Sonar: GO-87 DETAR phased Sonar and towed Sonar array (active / passive)
Propulsion: Eight GNO-05 Nuclear Engines, two per shaft, each with two five bladed propellers
Running Costs: $725,000,000 per year

The Freedom Class Super Dreadnaught is the first joint project between the
Portland Ironworks and Imperial Praetonian Shipyards, and the largest and most complex ship ever constructed by either. It is designed as a ‘Pocket
Super-Dreadnaught’ or simply a ‘Pocket Dreadnaught’. The Freedom Class is smaller than most contemporary ships of this type, but no less deadly,
sporting a battery of the huge 30” guns, a VLS system comparable to that of several arsenal ships and a substantial array of secondary guns.

The Export Version is equipped with the most advanced export systems
offered by both the Portland Iron Works and Imperial Praetonian Shipyards, ensuring that your ship won’t be left lagging behind contemporary ships built
by other nations. The ship also features full command and control systems for use by an entire navy, capable of linking all of your ships together with the
Freedom Class acting as a hub. The ship is equipped with a full electronics warfare and countermeasure suite for additional protection.

Cost: $125bn

[TAG] My Navy will decide soon whether to apply to purchase one or not

OOC: Nice. One thing though, it looks very heavy at both ends, with the turrets at the extremes. Could make it easy to break her back with a few torpedo hits amidships, especially with all those VLS tubes around there.....

I'll have to tag this too..

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3655/FreedomClassExportVersion.gif

Length: 743m
Beam: 265m
Draught: 24m
Crew:: 3,600 Naval; 120 Flag; 600 marines
Displacement: 1,112,497 tonnes (full load)
Speed:: 34knts (cruise) 37knts (max)
Range: Limited only by state of nuclear fuel and consumables
Armament: 9x 30” ETC Naval Cannon (A, B, X and Y positions in triple turrets); 8x 8” Naval Railguns (port / starboard on outrigger hulls, for and aft in dual turrets); 48x 6” ETC Naval Cannon (amidships; port / starboard in double turrets); 12x 3” Naval Autocannon (conning towers in single turrets); 20x Testudo CIWS; 2x 128cell Ballista VLS (forecastle, conning tower; SAM (tactical length); Javelin; 512 missiles); 1x 512cell Ballista VLS (amidships; SSM (tactical length); Lance; 1024 missiles); 1x 96cell Ballista VLS (amidships; LoRSOM (Strategic length); Battleaxe; 192 missiles); 4x 512cell Ballista VLS (amidships; AMM (sub-tactical length); discus; 4096 missiles); 30x 30mm cannon; 60x 12.7mm machineguns
Armour: Titanium and ballistic ceramics. Main side belt: 900mm – 1100mm; deck armor: 800mm; main turret faceplates 1200mm; main turret sides 1000mm; secondary turrets 950mm; superstructure 800mm; bulkheads 900mm
Helicopters: 12 ASW; 12 EAW / AWACs
Air Search Radar: GO-82 C ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Surface Search Radar: GO-82 D ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Fire Control Radar: GO-83 B ‘Simplex Mk II’ Phased Array
ASW Sonar: GO-87 DETAR phased Sonar and towed Sonar array (active / passive)
Propulsion: Eight GNO-05 Nuclear Engines, two per shaft, each with two five bladed propellers
Running Costs: $725,000,000 per year

The Freedom Class Super Dreadnaught is the first joint project between the Portland Ironworks and Imperial Praetonian Shipyards, and the largest and most complex ship ever constructed by either. It is designed as a ‘Pocket Super-Dreadnaught’ or simply a ‘Pocket Dreadnaught’. The Freedom Class is smaller than most contemporary ships of this type, but no less deadly, sporting a battery of the huge 30” guns, a VLS system comparable to that of several arsenal ships and a substantial array of secondary guns.

The Export Version is equipped with the most advanced export systems offered by both the Portland Iron Works and Imperial Praetonian Shipyards, ensuring that your ship won’t be left lagging behind contemporary ships built by other nations. The ship also features full command and control systems for use by an entire navy, capable of linking all of your ships together with the Freedom Class acting as a hub. The ship is equipped with a full electronics warfare and countermeasure suite for additional protection.

Cost: $125bn

I'll buy 8 for the heck of it.

Nice ship, I take I can't buy any, Preatonia? Check your TGs Jangle Jangle Ridge...

OOC: Nice. One thing though, it looks very heavy at both ends, with the turrets at the extremes. Could make it easy to break her back with a few torpedo hits amidships, especially with all those VLS tubes around there.....
Good point, but all of the VLS tubes are in the central hull, protected by the outriggers. The hull is very strong, esspecially in the centre again due to the outriggers. Also the armour is strong enough to cause most torpedoes to bounce off of cause minimal damage.

Jangle Jangle Ridge: We would be willing to provide you with eight Freedom Class SDNs, but be warned that the ships will take 35 NS years to complete.

Cam III: (OOC: Ive decided to unIGNORE you, for now) No we do not allow nations who have fired nuclear weapons at both designers and builders of the ship to purchase such technology. Any attempt to use JJR as a proxy buyer will be met with extreme consequences.

Seems nice, my only issues are the railguns and the number of VLS. I don't see the purpose of the railguns, they are just a waste :) And the amount of VLS, I would hate to have that many on a single ship.. mainly because if a shell penetrates whatever protecting barrier, or a 500lb bomb lands on one.. the subsequent explosion.. well, I'm sure you can get the idea.

Looks alot like a doujin, similar specs aswell

HISSS.... thirty inch cannon...., HISSSS =)

Railguns are effective anti-battleship and anti-super dreadnaught weapons (maybe not against your Doujin Mk II Refit) and they aren't the primary armament. This ship is acting as test bed for trialing the effectiveness railgun on such a ship. The VLS systems are heavily armoured, as much if not more than the main gun magazines, they can take a 500lbs hit most of the time. Also the VLS mounts (as you see they are raised from the rest of the hull) are designed to be able to detonate and cause minimal damage to the effectiveness of the vessel as a whole.

OOC: Chardonay I understand and accept your arguments about 30" cannon, but they are acceptable in the NS world, so I will use them.

Huzen Hagen: There are important differences between this ship and the Doujin and it is not designed to fill quite the same role.

OOC: Thats cool Preatonia. I was TG JJR about something different...

If one of your armouries are hit though, the amount of ammo you'd need to carry would certainly break the thing to pieces, plus how much noise would a thing like that make underwater, you'd better not have any submarines or wales in the area when you start it up. (the disruption in the water would cause serious damage to a submarines hull with prolonged exposure.

Chardonay's arguments only stand because they haven't been questioned. Freethinkers gets back from his vacation today, we will see what he has to say :)

That's as good an argument for believeing something as I've ever heard =) I look forward to the debate.

Ok, but no more discussion of 30" guns in this thread (unless it is in relation to Sarzonia's and my ship specifically).

If one of your armouries are hit though, the amount of ammo you'd need to carry would certainly break the thing to pieces, plus how much noise would a thing like that make underwater, you'd better not have any submarines or wales in the area when you start it up. (the disruption in the water would cause serious damage to a submarines hull with prolonged exposure.
As I said, the VLS batteries are designed to vent most of their explosive force outwards away from the ship. You can be standing next to a grenade when it expoldes and be ok because the force of the explosion vented away from you. Again this is if the magazines are even detonated, which is hard through so much armour.

I dont really care about whales, they shouldn't be there damn it! Subs keep their distance yes.

well you might not care about the wales (for shame) but subs can be a more useful part of the navy than a battleship, make good use of them.

well you might not care about the wales (for shame) but subs can be a more useful part of the navy than a battleship, make good use of them.
My subs dont hug battleships, that's a waste of their abilities. However I doubt that any sub is more powerful than a Freedom Class.

Putting a large submarine next to the Doujin Class would kill her crew if power was shunted to the sonar arrays. I don't recommend doing that, to all you people who will own a Doujin.

Bump

Is there a picture available of the ship? because the picture in the thread isn't working?

OOC: Strange, well here is a direct link. It is a big picture so if you're using 56k it may simply not have loaded yet.

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3655/FreedomClassExportVersion.gif

OOC:Server can not be found... The page was blocked somehow so I used megaproxy.com \o/ and the url works. is the ship drawn with paint ? :)

OOC: Well is works for me...

*bump*

[OOC: Freethinkers, if you have a chance, could you provide feedback?

Thanks. :)]

*bump*

*bump*

OOC: Get rid of the big f'in page breaking pic :)

OOC: Get rid of the big f'in page breaking pic :)

[OOC: I can't edit Praetonia's post to do that. :p

I changed the tag in the storefront where I'm selling the ship though.]

OOC: Get rid of the big f'in page breaking pic :)
No.

No.

[OOC: I think what he means is to change the tag from to . It's actually a good idea for the 56k sufferers out there. ;)]

[OOC: I think what he means is to change the tag from to . It's actually a good idea for the 56k sufferers out there. ;)]
May I repeat: No.

The picture double up as the title and it's a major interest grabber. If you really want me to edit it then I will but I think it's a bad idea... actually.... yeah ok.

May I repeat: No.

The picture double up as the title and it's a major interest grabber. If you really want me to edit it then I will but I think it's a bad idea... actually.... yeah ok.

[OOC: :confused:

The reason I thought it was a good idea (and I did so at the Portland Iron Works) was the fact that I thought that if someone was interested enough, they'd click on the URL and look at the design themselves.]

Yeah. I did do it, but it left the massive page break there even when:

a) I refreshed several times.

b) I came on the next day and it was still there.

So I put the pic back (it looks nice) and simply pressed enter after every other line
so you can read the stats properly.

(OOC: Nice.)

Pwnica is impressed by this ship and the Navy wishes to purchase 10. This year's military budget has gone largely (well, uh, wholly) unused and the money has been transferred for Navy useage to procure these ships.

The total of: $1,250,000,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation of our order and an estimated time of completion...maybe we could work out a payment plan though? If not, we would be glad to wire it all now.

We would like to buy 4.

500,000,000,000 Wired on confirmation.

Secret OOC: Sarzonia, Praetonia, I hope you're doing background checks.

Secret OOC: Sarzonia, Praetonia, I hope you're doing background checks.
Yes of course Im doing them now. Also almost no one gets the domestic version (this is the export version).

[Secret IC: We have instituted a policy specific to the sales of the Freedom-class and the Calypso-class whereby sales to all but trusted nations must be cleared by both storefronts. This policy applies to sales at the Portland Iron Works.]

[OOC: I figured I'd consult with Praetonia (at least) before making any decisions. Since he's doing the background check, I'll let him make the final call.]

OOC: Actually I was just thinking that, I have my own ideas but I will wait to see what you think. Check TGs in a minute.

OOC: Actually I was just thinking that, I have my own ideas but I will wait to see what you think. Check TGs in a minute.

[Check your TGs.]

The Parinthians, your order has been denied.

Pwnica, your order has been confirmed. Five of your ships will arrive in 20NS years, the other five ships will arrive 20NS years after that.

Bumpit.

The Parinthians, your order has been denied.

Why?

To: The Parthians Government
From: Commodore Barbara Tucker (ISN-Ret.)
Managing Director, Portland Iron Works
Subject: Denial of order

The Imperial Praetonian Shipyards and the Portland Iron Works have strong reservations about your government's foreign policy and record on human rights; therefore, we have denied your order of four Freedom-class superdreadaughts.

All sales of the Freedom-class, except for those to trusted nations, are subject to the approval of both storefronts. If your government initiates reforms in its foreign and domestic affairs and we may revisit our policy toward purchase of these vessels in the future.