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I believe what you have done is right. The ruling class should not be equal to the rest. Genetic manipulation is what the future holds for the human race. Soon, every human will be changed in some way or another. It's the best for all of humanity. Plus, the pointy ears are cool.

BUMP. We would like a few more opinions on this topic.

i only think it ok if it is for warfare purposes

So, you don't really support genetic engineering, but you will use it if absolutely neccesary. We respsect that, and it may well be the closest thing to what is really right and good. However, this is The Evil Empire of Akaton, so we geneticly alter ourselves anyway.

OOC: To be entirely honest, I don't see any problem with it. Like any advantage, it has the potential to be abused, but it is lunacy to think that it wont manifest itself in some form in the 'Real World' in the not-too-distant future.

Feel free to disagree with me.

Or, to put the issue another way, think of it like this.

Ask not, "Is this right?". Ask "why is this wrong". If anyone can come up with a feasible answer to the latter, I'll debate the issue...

I would support it, but it depends on what's being done. I might support it if it's to get rid of hereditary diseases like CF, but not if it's for e.g. breeding out black people or blondes.
Although some hereditary diseases have beneficial effects. Sickle-cell anaemia gives protection against malaria, and an awful lot of Nobel Prize winners have been autistic.
It does depend on what's being done and who decides that. But I think the best authority for deciding what happens is God, not a human. So no, I don't support genetic engineering.

I would support it, but it depends on what's being done. I might support it if it's to get rid of hereditary diseases like CF, but not if it's for e.g. breeding out black people or blondes.
Although some hereditary diseases have beneficial effects. Sickle-cell anaemia gives protection against malaria, and an awful lot of Nobel Prize winners have been autistic.
It does depend on what's being done and who decides that. But I think the best authority for deciding what happens is God, not a human. So no, I don't support genetic engineering.

I'm an athiest, so while I agree with some of your points, I don't agree with the final conclusion. Genetic engineering is good, but yes, like everything, it CAN be abused.

I would support it, but it depends on what's being done. I might support it if it's to get rid of hereditary diseases like CF, but not if it's for e.g. breeding out black people or blondes.
Although some hereditary diseases have beneficial effects. Sickle-cell anaemia gives protection against malaria, and an awful lot of Nobel Prize winners have been autistic.
It does depend on what's being done and who decides that. But I think the best authority for deciding what happens is God, not a human. So no, I don't support genetic engineering.

God may be the best authority, but that doesn't mean we cannot assist others ourselves. From a theological perspective, God helps those who help themselves. Banning genetic-based medicine or treatment would be akin to disallowing medicine of any sort on the basis that God will determine who lives or dies, and is the best judge of that...

No, God gives us the capacity to think, reason and learn. We would be insulting Him more if we didn't use our faculties to best advantage.

Akaton has no officical religion. The people are free to practice a religion privately, though there are no curches or temples. Most of the people are aetheists, including Akaton's ruler Lord Draconis. As such, religion didn't really influence our choice to change the species of Akaton's rulers. We do agree that large scale, uncontroled genetic engineering can be harmful to a society. Most obviously, if everyone is of a different species, reproduction would be impossible, and the population would collapse.

We have found that a system in which the rulers are clearly superior beings creates a very stable society. Revolutions are impossible if the people are conditoned to follow the command of a small group of vastly more advanced overlords. No leader outside the ruling class could gain the support of the majority.

I don't feel any human can decide what to get rid of or what to add in terms of genetics. Most of my family members are autistic (including me) and there are far more benefits to it than drawbacks. If a law were passed saying that autism was to be edited out of the human gene pool, well... there go half of the country's future surgeons, scientists, mathematicians etc. After all the publicity it's been getting recently, that'd be the first thing any government would get rid of. And that's just one example.
Of course, it's not a good thing that people suffer unnecessarily (and I do support genetic engineering for plant life, such as frost-proof grain etc.) but when the choice is between that or having the whole human race controlled from birth by leaders who have not been elected by people before they undergo genetic engineering (well, how can they? LOL), I think the normal "evolution" process is better.

If genetic engineering is what you want, then go for it. Marimaia purchased Neovirus for a similar reason to Akaton's. Marimaia is currently becoming more and more nationalist, claiming that Marimaians are intrinsically superior to everyone else. The decision has been made to have the Premier and his cabinet made even more superior than the rest of the population, so then the populace has something to aspire to and look up to and all that kind of dictatorial hero-worship stuff. The people love the Premier anyway, but if he's clearly a superior specimen then he'll have their awe as well as their love (that's the cabinet's plan, anyhoo).

(Of course, no-one knows that IC...)

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The Holy Empire of The God of Prune Juice have genetically engineered themselves into the likeness of thier deity. They are now greenskinned and less than half the size of normal humans. The males sport bald heads and long white beards. These evil and quite intelligent people have also created a dragon called the Prune Dragon through genetic engineering.

These people believing they are superior to all others do not condone genetic engineering by anyone else and are very violent towards anyone that is.

This is an OOC post.

That was my store BTW. I have a logo for that corporation now, its' on page 1.

Anyway, I think that there's nothing wrong with genetic engeneering, as long as it is controlled and if it is to the consent of the person being modified. I would be against any plan to "crop out" certain genetic code from the general populace if people were against it. I'dd offer it as a possiblity, but I wouldn't ofrce it on people.

As to the issue of growing new people, I agrree that people should ask "why is this wrong" before anything else gets debated.