NationStates Jolt Archive

Artitsa, which is currently situated in the North Atlantic, above Great Britain is populated by both Slavics and Irish. In the early 1600's, there had been many a war between the two peoples until finally a leader had risen up, Vladimir O'Hara. He united the Slavics and Irish, and made the great nation of Artitsa. Our country maintained is original double heritage, using the Celtic Cross, but also maintaining several Slavic ideals. The language chosen was a mix between Celtic, English, and Russian. It is very difficult for an outsider to understand this language. So now, in Modern day, Artitsa looks to the government of Ireland and see's weakness. It has been argued in the Artitsan Puma, whether to take Ireland or not, and bring them under the fold of Artitsa. As it currently stands, 44 out of 75 counsul's favour the invasion of Ireland. This is no secret in Artitsa either. It has been reported in almost every Newspaper, on TV, and on the Radio. It has met a warm response with almost every citizen.

OC: Good old Imperialisme huh?

IC: The nation of Dumpsterdam condems this very way of thinking from the Artitsa goverment, advisors to Lord Rift have already declared that he will not sit idly by.

President Vladimir Overdanski cares not for what you believe. We shall reunite our peoples soon enough. Ireland will be a better place under our leadership.



In two weeks (1 hour RL) The Puma will make its decision, whether Artitsa shall goto war or not.

((I back you OOCly, but ICly ill have to remain neutral... but I do think that Artista should be re-united with its heritage brethren, whether the people of Ireland will accept it {They most likely will}))

((They should. I think a Slavic/Celtic cross would be awesome, and thereby making the populous a badass drinking people ;)))

((Well I might just help, if thats ok... since Dancing Moose's main heritage is Celtic.))

The United Socialist Sates of Sreech also condems the Artitsa nations way of thinking.

In a statement from President Alexander Brokar of Sreech's Office:
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We (Sreech) feel that the Nation of Artitsa is acting immoral, and should wait until there is considerable evidence that Ireland needs invading. Until then, we stand against the invasion of Ireland.

-Alexander Brokar, President Of Sreech.
14:08 PM.

(My first time doing this, so lay off).

we dont care but you cant fight a war with out the best weapons check out weapons-tech storefront.

The Socialist Utopia of Essenia strongly condemns this imperialist posturing by the Commie-Nazi Empire of Artitsa. War is a disgusting, brutal thing, little more than murderous slaughter on a massive scale, and war for the imperial objective of conquest is despicable and atrocious. Any invasion of Ireland by Artitsa without legitimate basis will be strongly opposed by the Socialist Utopia of Essenia, and such legitimate basis has yet to be provided.

Ganor Plish
President
Progressive MP
Socialist Utopia of Essenia

I wiil support who ever buys the most

OOC: I wouldn't care but I'm half-irish.
IC: TAKE GERMANY INSTEAD!

We are displeased with these nations that will not allow our peoples to become reunited once more. Once Ireland has been taken under our control, we will introduce our free healthcare, education, our superior crime prevention, defence forces, and We are also sure that they will be happy. Seeing how our current average GDP is 35,000 to 38,000, we believe that our Irish brothers will love our high paying jobs. We currently have a Jobless rate of less then 1% due to the massive amount of corporations in our Country. Once they come to Ireland, they to will share in the massive job offerings. We will not require mandatory military service from the Irish, as our military is already quite huge. All in all, they will have a betterment in living conditions.

OOC: I wouldn't care but I'm half-irish.
IC: TAKE GERMANY INSTEAD!

ooc: Im half Irish as well... thus why I want Ireland ;). My ally AU owns Germany any how.

We are displeased with these nations that will not allow our peoples to become reunited once more. Once Ireland has been taken under our control, we will introduce our free healthcare, education, our superior crime prevention, defence forces, and We are also sure that they will be happy. Seeing how our current average GDP is 35,000 to 38,000, we believe that our Irish brothers will love our high paying jobs. We currently have a Jobless rate of less then 1% due to the massive amount of corporations in our Country. Once they come to Ireland, they to will share in the massive job offerings. We will not require mandatory military service from the Irish, as our military is already quite huge. All in all, they will have a betterment in living conditions.


The United Socialist States of Sreech are well aware that this is just a cover-up for a mass genocide in Ireland. We will not stand for this!!

Tell us why we would commit genocide on our own People. The PUMA is now sitting down and preparing for the vote.

Generia fully supports your imperialist expansion.

Voting has been tallied. Going to war with Ireland/Annexing Ireland is in favour 68 to 7. The Artitsan military is currently mobilizing a single fleet, four divisions of infantry, 2 Armoured Divisions, and 3 Mechanized Infantry divisions. 2 Airwings will be acting support should they need it. It will take at least a month for these forces to organize themselves.

The Artitsan military is prepared to launch their attack on Ireland. There are well over 160 Ivan Roganov transports and other heavy lifting sea transports. A message is being sent to Ireland:

"Surrender and Join Artitsa now, or be assimilated by force. We have Whiskey."

RAF Aldergrove, Northern Ireland

No longer a station simply for the Joint Helicopter Force with its Merlin, Puma, Gazelle, and Apache, the site, next to Belfast International, had for more than two weeks operated Eurofighter Typhoon, GR9B Harrier, Tornado F3Z and GR4Z, Jaguar GR3, and various Nimrod and VC10 aircraft. Military strength in Scotland too had been boosted since the first speculation on Artistan aggression against Ireland- it had never been made clear whether the island of Ireland or the nation of Eire specifically was threatened.

Expansion work was still under way to make the accomodation of extra forces less a strain.

London had sent to the Artistans demanding an abandonment of their rampant aggression, and indicating from past experience that it was a really stupid idea that would lead to the deaths of hundreds of their own people. The sailing of Artistan warships secured the closure of trade between the UK and Artista, and caused an emergency plea from PM John Bull and from Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth III to the civilised peoples of earth for help in the defence of the Irish Republic, and potentially of the United Kingdom itself.

Your ruling over Northern Ireland will come to an end. We will reunite all of our brothers, and releasing them from your captivity. If you force us to, we will obliterate your Nation should it think to continue its ideals of slavery upon the Irish race.

ooc: If you want numbers of my forces, just ask.

Normally...Euroslavia would not support such an action...but we do not oppose a unification of the nations. Just as long as innocents are not killed, we will stand by. Although, in keeping the respect of the rest of the world, I suggest you let a 3rd party come in and keep watch over the situation.

We will welcome a 3rd party nation, but Ireland and Artitsa are brothers. We do not commit genocide against one another.

BBC News coverage related to the crisis

"...poll has thus far returned almost twelve thousand responses, and has found less than ten respondents in Northern Ireland favouring the armed invasion of their land by Artista..."

"...the absence from port this morning of HMS Vengeance means that for the first time in many months, all of the Royal Navy's Vanguard Class SSBNs are at sea..."

"...that the UK government and military intend to co-operate fully with their Irish opposites in co-ordinating a defence, with RAF Nimrods supplying the Republic with intelligence as it becomes available..."

(OOC: I suppose it would help to know what's coming. Is anyone playing Eire? I'm sure there can't be a shortage of volunteers.)

ooc: I would certainly hope they play realistically, since a good percentage of Irish in the North and actual Eire hate their British overlords. ;) I don't see why they wouldn't welcome their own brothers who are offering them freedom, money, jobs, booze, and a new life.

Numbers:
3rd Fleet:
8 Super Medjved Missile Battleships
2 BBNK ShipWreck Battleship Killers
16 TAMD Mk II's
4 Yakinterinburg Carriers
2 Ocean Class Carriers
7 Ul'yansk Escort Carriers
19 Asia class Cruisers
28 Korsar Frigates
40 Sovernmenny 2 Destroyers
104 ASEB-140 Missile boats/hydroplane.
12 AMS-84 SSN's
8 Oscar IV SSN's
4 Borei SSGN's
4 Tagonrog SSGN's
48 Resupply vessels (SAN-520 Oiler, SAN-580 Resupply Vessel, etc)

1 Infantry Division = 15,000 Heavy Infantry. Smallest organization is 8 man Fire teams. Each Fire Team consists of: 5 /w AV-96 Rifles & RPG-22's. 1 /w AVU-96, Igla-S MANPAD. 1 /w AVU-96 & Bayonet ATGM system. 1 /w Dragonov SVD, and reloads for Bayonet ATGM. Also included are 120 Volk IFV's, 42 T-80UM7's MBT's. 34 Mi-35M Hind, 24 Mi-28N's, 12 Ka-52's.

1 Armoured Division = 450 T-80UM7's, 300 T-95UM2's, 150 Behemoth Mk2 HBT's, 110 Grad MLRs, 82 Smerch-M MLRs, 45 Urugan MLRs, 40 TOS-1 Burantino MLRs, 210 Tunguska-M1's, 110 SA-35's, 20 S-500's. 34 Mi-35M Hind, 24 Mi-28N's, 12 Ka-52's.

1 Mechanized Division = 8,000 Infantry. 800 Volk IFV's, 250 T-80UM7's, 120 T-95UM2's, 120 Tunguska-M1's, 100 SA-35's. 34 Mi-35M Hind, 24 Mi-28N's, 12 Ka-52's.

Aircraft:
Carriers:
480 = Yakinterinburgs - 240 JF-20's, 200 D.223's, 40 A-25 AWACs & ASW Aircraft.
300 = Ocean Class - 200 JF-20's, 75 D.223's, 25 A-25 AWACs & ASW aircraft.
560 = Ul'yansk - 280 JF-20's, 240 D.223's, 40 A-25 AWACs & ASW aircraft.
Total Aircraft from Carriers: 1340

2 Airwings in Artitsa are on alert, but have not been sanctioned for any combat yet, therefor no numbers for them yet.

OOC: Ah, Jesus, we're going to need help, here!
Anyway, a good proportion of the NI population is English origin, is Protestant, and would absolutely hate the idea... I'm sure you've heard of the pro-British terror as well as the Republican.
More than that, even the ethnic Irish and the Catholics are hardly going to be excited about having their relatively liberal democracy replaced with an oppresive authoritarian regime such as yours. Currently they're part of a Parliamentary democracy, and there's a "Commie-Nazi Empire" coming with guns to change all that by force, after a period of relative peace for the first time in decades. The population is quite simply not going to be accepting of someone who wants to come along and ruin all that... you'll lose the loyalists by trying to force unification, and you'll lose the republicans by taking away their free market, taking all of their private wealth, and spending it on ruining the peace they've waited so long to see.
On your side will be a few hundred hardcore racists and terrorists. We might well not be able to stop you conquering Ireland, but you'll sure as hell inherit a terrorist problem the likes of which has hardly been seen, and people will never be happy with you.
Sorry, that went on a bit, but I just had to be realistic.

Goobergunchia condemns this act of aggression. Given that a peace treaty between the Alliance Defence Network and Ireland has been presented and is poised to be ratified, this seems likely only to aggravate the situation.

ooc: Well, Commie-Nazi is a joke with a few friends, which should be obvious since they are on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Also, the Irish didn't seem to opposed when they offered their ports to the Axis forces during WW2 in order to succeed from Britain.

(OOC: Well, that was just a few years after home rule, while the two nations (the UK and Eire) were all but at war, anyway. You may have noticed that Britain gets on pretty well with, oh, say, Germany, now, let alone Ireland! Anyway, it's not just an ethnic thing, there's religious concerns that will make people resist, as well as political and economic- Ireland's perfectly well off already, and is rather used to... not having a 100% income tax rate!)

London has made last minute diplomatic overtures to Artitsa, offering to send to their nation Diplomatic Service big-shot Sir Humphrey, who is credited with settling the PNG dispute with Roycelandia, or to host talks between Dublin and (Artitsa's capital). PM John Bull hopes to bring the nations of Artitsa and Eire to contact with one another so that the latter may make clear its independence and the latter might express whatever concerns have lead it to consider war.

The United Socialist States of Sreech urge The Nation of Artitsa to stop this incredibly stupid act of war!

We will welcome your diplomat into Duvingrad. Duvingrad is not the Capital of Artitsa, but it does contain all embassies and any political talks take place there. Your diplomat will speak directly to President Overdanski and the Artitsan Puma. The Irish are of course welcome to come, as well.

As sir Humphrey boarded the RAF Avro RJ/BAe 146 jet and made for Duvingrad, Downing Street was assuring a nervous Dublin that this did not signal the beginings of any slide by the UK to the support of the potential Artitsan invasion. If the Irish should oppose the idea of a meeting in the aggressor state, Belfast, London, and any number of alternate locations would be offered for an alternate gathering.

(I don't want to speak too much for the Republic, but I do hope there's somebody realistic and even minded prepared to try.)

Accomadations will be provided to all parties, ala the Artitsan Golden Star Hotel, providing Business Suites. The talks are expected to last for at least a month.

Sir Humphrey was a fairly quiet man, but quite ambitious. He wouldn't have minded if the PM decided to annex Eire for its own protection, but that wasn't his brief. Dublin was an ally, now, more or less. He was to assert Britain's support for the independence of the Irish Republic, and in doing so to stall for as much time as possible while the Royal Marine Reserves were made ready, the next two Type 45 destroyers were given final fittings, and the Irish made whatever preparations they could to meet an invasion.

(OOC: Hope you don't mind if I disappear frequently... I'm trying to cook myself something that won't kill me outright :) )

ooc: I don't mind at all.

ic:
President Overdanski had met his share of wiley Diplomats... all had gone away emptyhanded. This would be no different. Ireland would be Artitsa's, no matter the results of this Conference. Truth was, it was getting hard to fit the population of Artitsa into the cities, as the island was becoming quite dense. Ireland was needed to expand the growing population. Today would be the first meeting, in the Great hall. Inside the grand hall was a large circular table. Vladimir waited for his opposites to arrive.

Your ruling over Northern Ireland will come to an end. We will reunite all of our brothers, and releasing them from your captivity. If you force us to, we will obliterate your Nation should it think to continue its ideals of slavery upon the Irish race.

ooc: If you want numbers of my forces, just ask.

The Wrath of Poseidon points out that Northern Ireland exists because its own people voted that it be.

Thus any claims by Artitsa to be freeing slaves is wholly spurious.

We stand by the British Federation in this area, and request and demand that Artitsa reconsider their defective strategy.

ooc: Well, Commie-Nazi is a joke with a few friends, which should be obvious since they are on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Also, the Irish didn't seem to opposed when they offered their ports to the Axis forces during WW2 in order to succeed from Britain.

OOC
Ireland seceded in the 1916-1920 period, not during WW2.

They stayed neutral in WW2 as otherwise they'd have been reabsorbed into the Empire.

Incidentally Commies and Nazis are surprisingly close in outlook which is why the Nazi party actually was the National Socialist party. The hatred of Hitler for the Soviet Union was based on racist rather than ideological grounds.

The Grand Shark made his decision.

Arstita was threatening the use of overwhelming force, and it was time to redress the balance.

Echo Fleet had been undergoing an extensive refit since their last outing to Morathania in order to better be able to cope with uberfleets by conventional means, and now sported some new and tasty munitions.

Chuckling slightly, he gave the orders to send Fleet Echo to vest the vicinity of Northern Ireland.

Fleet Echo:

Eight Vanguard Class nuclear SSBN/SSGN. Two are armed with Sea Trident conventional warhead SLBMs, the other six contain a classified mixture of Tomahawk cruise missiles (7 per missile tube), Righteous Wrath heavy antiship missiles (3 per missile tube) and Hovering Hawk AEW radar and anti-air systems (6 BVR AAMs per Hovering Hawk). Self defence is provided by Spearfish torpedoes, Distant Sword supercavitating torpedoes and Starstreak sail-mounted SAM system.

Eight Trafalgar class nuclear attack submarines, armed with a mixture of Tomahawks, SubHarpoon, Spearfish and Distant Sword torpedoes and sail-mounted Starstreak SAMs.

Sixteen Swiftsure class nuclear attack submarines, armed with Spearfish, Tomahawk, SubHarpoon, Distant Sword and Starstreak.

The Diplomatic Servant arrived in Artitsa quite unsure of the treatment or greeting he would receive.

As soon as the opportunity presented itself, Sir Humphrey put it to the Artitsans that Northern Ireland chose to remain British and was democratically represented, and that the Irish Republic was exactly that, the Irish Republic. It was really none of Artitsa's business to tell the voting public of same that they should be better off under foreign rule. "They won't have it." He said. "My uncle would tell you no less after serving with the Royal Ulster Constabulary."

Meanwhile, the UK opened its waters and military port facilities to the WoP and other such oppenents of the planned Artitsan reduction of Irish and British independence.

Any sort of attack upon Artitsa will be taken as an aggressive act of war, and will be met upon, with Artista's approval, by military forces of Euroslavia.

We are deploying the 4th Fleet to Ireland to aid the British and WoP forces that are trying to protect Irish independence. I am also deploying 3 Infantry Divisions (60,000 men), an Armor Divsion, and a Mechanized Infantry division.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris

OOC: Now kiddies, play nice ;)

TBH, TBF, and Artista, I would advise that you both try and seek a diplomatic solution. I should point out I would be happy to mediate discussions if that would be helpful. I consider you both good customers/suppliers, and I don't wish to see either suffer.

My official position is that although the Republic of Ireland is its own territory and is yours to claim, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (and therefore part of TBF) and , and, in RL democratically wishes to remain part of it. You have to remember most of the violence in NI was as the result of civil rights abuses rather than reaching for outright reunification, and the situation still remains with a clear majority in favour of remaining part of the UK. Ill ask you, Artista, as a friendly nation, to halt any advance at the border of Northern Ireland.

I hope peace and reason reign. Goodday.

ooc: Ok lets get started.

The Wrath Of Poseidon: Attack me, and you'll become the new Province of Artitsa. In fact, TBF should get you to attack me, cause then I have no need of Ireland. And during WW2, the Irish were neutral yes, but that doesn't change the fact they were prepared to open their ports to the Germans. Look it up.
National Socialists and Communists rather dislike each other, seeing how Nazi's are pretty much Capitalist to a lesser extent, but aren't about the working man. They do however work for the state like communism, however Commie's are all about the Workers.

Freethinkers: I'd be glad to have you mediate. But I think I will leave Northern Ireland for now, TBF will keep it.

Euroslavia: Thanks bud, if you'd like, you can take Severis.

ic:

"Well, We shall have a vote in Ireland then eh? But before, tell your cronies to leave, before I choose to bring ours. You don't want that."

A 2nd fleet, with the exact same numbers as the other one has left Artitsa for the North Atlantic. From there they will sail south towards the nation of Sevaris. 4 AMS-84's will break off from the fleet and intercept the fleet heading from Sevaris. Should the fleet from Sevaris teleport, as it would seem its doing since it took no time to get to Ireland & England, they will continue until they are 240km from the Shore of Sevaris.

Intel indicates Vangaurd SSBN's had left WoP, therefor the entire Artitsan Nuclear arms have been activated, including the 4,200 ICBM's in Silo's, 4,800 SS-28 TELs, and the 45 various SSBN's ranging from Borei's, a new secret class. The minute a SLBM is launched (we won't know that it is conventional. Thus why you do not ever use a conventional ICBM/SLBM missile)

The Supreme Soviet of Malatose has declared that any act of war upon Artitsa is an act of war upon the Soviet Communist Republics of Malatose.The Soviet 5th Fleet will be sent to Southern Ireland to cut off Reinforcements of any kind.

5th Fleet stats

5 Orel-II Class Carriers (Carries 91 Aircraft)
5 Kiev-II Class Carriers (Carries 72 Aircraft)
14 Kirov Class Cruisers
10 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
13 Kresta Class Cruiser
10 Sovremenny II Class Guides Missle Destroyer
12 Udaloy II Class Guided Missle Destroyer
17 Sverdlov II Class Destroyers
19 Neustrashimy II Class Frigates
23 Grisha II Class Frigate
10 Krivak II Class Frigates
35 Akula Class Submarines
12 Kilo Class Submarines
34 Oscar-II Class Submarines
12 Bora II Class Corvettes
9 Poti II Class Corvettes

Secret IC: (so that means, if your specificly aiming spysatelites at the DAF staging and recruiting area at Tallasalarn naval base you know, otherwise you don't.)

The Seventh marine division "The Ducks" made all haste with preparing its vehicles and landing equipment, 12.000 men had already shipped into the transport vessles of the 9th fleet and the remaining 3.000 where being loaded together with the MBT's and other vehicles of the division.
Once the ships had been loaded, wich took about six houres extra they set sail, first linking up with escorts from the 9th fleet and then heading straight for Artitsa coast lines.

ooc: Ok lets get started.

The Wrath Of Poseidon: Attack me, and you'll become the new Province of Artitsa.

Intel indicates Vangaurd SSBN's had left WoP, therefor the entire Artitsan Nuclear arms have been activated, including the 4,200 ICBM's in Silo's, 4,800 SS-28 TELs, and the 45 various SSBN's ranging from Borei's, a new secret class. The minute a SLBM is launched (we won't know that it is conventional. Thus why you do not ever use a conventional ICBM/SLBM missile)

OOC

Bored now by the usual big bully bluster.

You can't RP a nuclear response to a non-nuclear attack irrespective of the means of carriage. If you do then you were the first nuclear attacker and neutral nations will unite to wipe you out.

There are plenty of conventional ballistic missiles and I refuse to accept that a sea-launched one should be treated differently.

You can't RP an attack on the Wrath itself as the location is secret. All Wrath bases have disguised undersea entrances and you'd need to find a needle in a haystack. All claims to have done so will be IGNORED unless RPing a credible method of doing so.

Also the information on weapons fit and so on at the beginning of the RP is to show all that I'm playing fair and not pulling a uberweapon out of a hat, not to let you RP responses on so-called intel.

As for diplomatic overtures, let them continue - if peace prevails the subs can quietly go home. If not, then we'll see...

The Soviet Fleet is continuing on its course towards Southern Ireland.

OOC

Bored now by the usual big bully bluster.

You can't RP a nuclear response to a non-nuclear attack irrespective of the means of carriage. If you do then you were the first nuclear attacker and neutral nations will unite to wipe you out.

There are plenty of conventional ballistic missiles and I refuse to accept that a sea-launched one should be treated differently.

You can't RP an attack on the Wrath itself as the location is secret. All Wrath bases have disguised undersea entrances and you'd need to find a needle in a haystack. All claims to have done so will be IGNORED unless RPing a credible method of doing so.

Also the information on weapons fit and so on at the beginning of the RP is to show all that I'm playing fair and not pulling a uberweapon out of a hat, not to let you RP responses on so-called intel.

As for diplomatic overtures, let them continue - if peace prevails the subs can quietly go home. If not, then we'll see...

Ignored.

London has not hesitated to indicate again that the UK has lead efforts to negotiate a solution while the aggressors have increased their posturing and rhetoric, and gathered offensive cohorts about them.

If this continues, as Sir Humphrey has stated in Artitsa, the United Kingdom shall have no choice but to lead the way to recruitment of a global coalition against the aggression, and London is unsurprisingly confident of the ability of itself and of Dublin to rally the Celtic, Anglo Saxon, Catholic, Protestant, capitalist, and democratic peoples of earth, at the very least. There is no way to imagine the British Isles being attacked without massive global consequence. Who here wishes total war upon his own people?

There has been no aggression on the part of the UK or of the Irish Republic, and the billions of dollars being wasted by reactionary regimes such as the one guiding Malatose to huge and wasteful deployment risk creating global catastrophe.

London's position is that if Eire wishes to vote on the matter of annexation by Artitsa then it should do so in its own time and without threat of violence from without. It has been noted that in Northern Ireland there is no significant public motion for such a survey to be conducted on an official scale, and so it shall not be done there.

As we have said previously, we wish for there to be a vote. We have one final statement to make to the Irish people:

"People of Eire. We are your brothers. We have no intention of killing or slavery. We wish to bring you jobs, money, protection, healthcare, free education, a worry free life. We do not entend to strip you of your rights, your heritage, or your freedoms. If you join with Artitsa the following will happen: 1) We will build 4 Airbases and 4 Naval ports in Ireland. 2) Artitsan Corperations will come to Ireland and make jobs for the population. 3) New Hospitals, Schools, Universities, Public Transit, Waste Mangement, a 25% tax rate. 4) The people of Ireland can freely demand projects from the Government, such as environmental projects, tax breaks, low income housing, homeless shelters, etc. 5) There is no forced conscription at anytime for Ireland. If someone wishes to join the Artitsan Forces they are free to do so, but no one will be forced. 6) Currency will be upgraded to Artitsan currancy. 2 Artitsan Dollars are worth 1 USD. It will not be like in England however, prices in Ireland will move down. For example. If a chocolate bar was 1 USD in Ireland, it will now be 50cents Artitsan. If there are any freedoms we have overlooked in this speech, bring them to our attention, and we shall address them immediatly."

IT WILL CRUSH ALL IN IT'S WAY, LEAVING IN IT'S WAKE A WAVE OF DESTRUCTION AND DEATH!! :sniper: :mp5: :upyours: :headbang:

(Well, it wouldn't be like in England, no, because the pound is worth more than the US dollar, not less like the Artitsan dollar which seems to be weaker than the Candian. Anyhoo, do we know who's... responding to this approach? I mean, if I were to speak for Ireland I would assume a landslide defeat for any annexation vote, but I don't know, maybe we should get some Irishmen in here (I'm several generations removed).)

(As am I. I do not see why they would be against Annexation, of course your vote would be biased. And I meant that the Artitsan dollar was worth two American dollars. IE a little bit better then the British Pound.

We are deploying the 4th Fleet to Ireland to aid the British and WoP forces that are trying to protect Irish independence. I am also deploying 3 Infantry Divisions (60,000 men), an Armor Divsion, and a Mechanized Infantry division.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris


We have been informed from Artista, that we will be engaging in battle with your troops.

May God have mercy on you, and may my Gigas wipe your military out of where you don't belong...You may not have heard of the fierce nature of a Giga, but you will soon see its' potential...


Malatose: It seems we are on the same side. We must coordinate strikes against the enemy in order to be most effective. My military, ground troops and navy, should be arriving before dawn, tomorrow.

Mobilization

First Imperial Division
30,000 Imperial Gigas equipped with XR-2 Assault Rifles
50 Algol Heavy Artillery
100 T-O8 Vatutin Main Battle Tanks
200 Air Defense Anti-Tank Systems
20 BGM-109 Tomahawks

Fifth Main Imperial Division
50,000 Imperial Gigas equipped with AS Assault Rifles
100 Algol Heavy Artillery
200 EE-T1 Euroslavic Battle Tanks
50 Milan Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
30 SNAH III helicopters

Imperial Navy
10 Euroslavic Class II Carriers
2 CVN 77 Carriers
15 Ticonderoga Cruisers
5 Lutjens Destroyers
8 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Seawolf Class Attack Submarines w/2 Mantas
20 SSN-21 Seawolf Submarines
4 Seal Class Destroyers
8 Delta Class Submarines
15 Ares Class LCAC
10 Freedom Class Aircraft Carriers

First Elite Imperial Squadron
1,000 Elite Shock Troopers equipped with 7.62mm OTs-03AS Sniper Rifles
Also equipped with GCS-MkI suits (resistant to bio/chem gases) w/jumppacks

Euroslavia: Yes,I agree..perhaps we should coordinate some kind of joint attacks on AIM.

The Ministry of Defense has ordered that 2 Marine Batallions and 1 Motorized Rifle Divisions be sent.

Motorized Rifle Division stats.
15,000 Troops Armed with AK-105s
12 Sprut-SD Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Gun
100 Gaz-Humvees
12 152mm MSTA-B Self-Propelled Howitzer
23 Nona-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortor
285 BTR-90s
12 152mm MSTA-B Howitzer
5 Grad MLRS
8 S-500 Portable SAMS

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Marine Division Stats:
500 Troops
4 T-80UM7 Tanks
10 BMD-3 Fighting Vehicles
4 MSTA-B Towed Howitzer
4 NONA-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortors

The Kingdom of Crookfur has despite it's perocupation with the IDF issue become increasingly alarmed by the rampant agression being displayed and the blatent attempts at intimidation agaisnt the people of ireland.

As such the froces based at Frazer's isle have been brought up to an increased level of readiness. (crookfur outpost on the same lattitude as skye but located about 20miles outside of of the 12mile UK teritorial waters (or whatever the distance is), It is effectively a tax free trading psot to allow us easier acess to europe but since the Drumgods/TFUN events it has been cosntantly expanded to provide a full naval base which currently pays host to 2 POFs, a MTG and a CSF plus a sizable airforce detactment)

Any offensive moves against our allies would fo course have to met with an apropriete response.

If Eire votes to join Artitsa, that is fine. We will be ok with that, as long as the elections aren't tampered with. However, Northern Ireland has expressed a desire to remain with the UK, and I shall respect that. However, if Eire is coerced into joining Artitsa, why, the ensuing conflagration would be sure to engulf the whole world.

My fleet did not teleport. I merely said it set sail. I estimate it is somewhere in the Bay of Biscay now.

Dumpsterdam goverment urges Sevaris to crawl back under the rock it came from.

We have been informed from Artista, that we will be engaging in battle with your troops.


OOC
Please specify exactly how many support ships you are using to carry your 81,000 troops and assorted tamks and artilliery.

Dumpsterdam- Who are you to tell us what to do? We are merely aiding our Commonwealth brother.

WoP, you are ignored for using future tech/underwater cities. In the 2004 to 2020 time period, there will not be underwater cities, able to be hidden and have a 5 Million + population. Good Day. If you want to continue to play, you will realize that in the NS world (which I have been playing in for more then a year) does not look kindly upon conventional ICBM's. OOC I know it is conventional, but in no way do my leaders or the ABM systems know its conventional. Even if you tell us Convetional, why would we believe you? We would allow you to launch nuclear weapons at our own silo's so there is no retaliation? Pass.

ic:

We have no intentions of taking Northern Ireland. It is clear that they do not wish to be part of Artitsa and we respect that. We would like a meeting with diplomats from Ireland to discuss terms.

Secret IC:
Admiral Docterow glanced at the sea charts again. Satellite ODD had shown several dozen Satellites move from an area towards Ireland. Admiral Docterow signed his paper, releasing 22 AMS-84 Hunter/Killer SSN's into the ocean to hunt down these enemy subs.

We thank you for that. With regards to Eire, the only way your annexation would be legal is if the people of Eire decided as such.

We will discuss terms of Freedom, Religion, Money, Taxes, and other things that the People of Eire would need to join Artitsa. After the Reps from Ireland list what the people wish, we will have the vote.

The Irish Citizens of the Free Land of Sonsy will not take the invasion of Artitsa lightly. Although we appreciate their desire to free Northern Ireland from the British Imperialist bastards, we do not look forward to the all-imposing thumb of another self-righteous antiquated colonial system.
Although the Free Land of Sonsy has limited military capabilities, we have millions of dedicated citizens willing to disrupt the aggression of Artista through non-traditional means. Ireland has long known the bloodshed necessary to free her peoples, and will not take lightly the invasion of a lunatic regime.
If you thought the patriots in Palestine and Iraq were crazy, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Signed,
Kelly Houlihan
Supreme Executive Commander of the Free Land of Sonsy

Northern Ireland has expressed a desire to remain with Britain. TBF will ensure their wish is kept, as I will I.

If the Irish of your nation are willing to commit Genocide on their own people, we will be forced to prevent that, and utterly incapacitate transportation in and out of your country to protect the Irish of Artitsa.

If the Irish of your nation are willing to commit Genocide on their own people, we will be forced to prevent that, and utterly incapacitate transportation in and out of your country to protect the Irish of Artitsa.

Don't let Sonsy's size fool you, oh arrogant nation of artitsa, we have been preparing a campaign against Britain's reign over North Ireland for year. We're willing to pour all of our resources toward making your decision to invade our beloved land the last impetious action your pathetic nation will make.
Not only will your attempts to "incapacitate" our transportation fail, but your entire campaign is doomed to end in a drastic reduction in artitsa's population.
You may label yourself Ireland's "liberator", but we've heard your calibre of shallow lies before and will stop at nothing to free our people.
As I said before, we may not have the military might to lead a full-scale war, but we have the education, scientific reason and determination to make sure you don't step foot on our precious soil.
I suggest you issue the recall of your troops before you see the beating heart ripped from your nation's ribcage.
Signed,
Kelly Houlihan
Supreme Executive Commander of the Free Land of Sonsy

If the Irish of your nation are willing to commit Genocide on their own people, we will be forced to prevent that, and utterly incapacitate transportation in and out of your country to protect the Irish of Artitsa.

And regarding "Genocide", our people know the cost of freedom. We've been paying it since William the Orange, and you sir, are no William the Orange.
The People's Front of Ireland is formed of men ages 18 to 99, all willing to give their lives for the chance to give their offspring the freedom they have only dreamed of.
Unlike your own army of high school dropouts and inbred, genetic rejects, the People's Front of Ireland is heavily supplied with intelligent, passionate Irishmen who will give their every ounce of lifeblood to stop your stupidity.
But that is just the tip of the iceberg, artitsa... we have another group of "soldiers" that are ready to fight. We have created an intimidating and expendable legion of suicide bombers, whose numbers will continue to grow with your casualties. Be warned.
Signed,
Kelly Houlihan
Supreme Executive Commander of the Free Land of Sonsy

We had no intention of Invading. We do have every intention of destroying Ports, Highways, Airports, and farms. We will then drop salt from our planes in mass quantities making sure nothing will ever grow again. If you continue to annoy us with that festering drivvel that pours from your mouth, we will simply destroy your entire population. We are not the United States. If you hide behind a civillian target, we'll shoot you both. If you drive a suicide car at us, and kill one soldier. We kill your family. If you kill two soldiers, we kill 100 of your people. Should our death toll reach 500, we will activily kill your population until there is none left, and then we will use it as a weapons testing ground. Do you understand. Your entire population is smaller then our military.

We had no intention of Invading. We do have every intention of destroying Ports, Highways, Airports, and farms. We will then drop salt from our planes in mass quantities making sure nothing will ever grow again. If you continue to annoy us with that festering drivvel that pours from your mouth, we will simply destroy your entire population. We are not the United States. If you hide behind a civillian target, we'll shoot you both. If you drive a suicide car at us, and kill one soldier. We kill your family. If you kill two soldiers, we kill 100 of your people. Should our death toll reach 500, we will activily kill your population until there is none left, and then we will use it as a weapons testing ground. Do you understand. Your entire population is smaller then our military.

Well, as intimidating as you sound (about as intimidating as a Labradoodle), your intentions are hostile and, if I do say so, f#cking insane. You want to liberate Ireland through Scorched Earth Policy?
I warn you once again, Ireland does not need or want you here and any attempt to attack our peaceful nation will be met with severe retribution. Your unrealistic threats are disgusting and pathetic, and we will not be intimidated. We have allies who will respond to any acts of extreme aggression likewise on your own soil, while your military is committing mass murder.
Again, we demand you turn your troops around before things go too far.
Signed,
Kelly Houlihan
Supreme Executive Commander of the Free Land of Sonsy

ooc: Are you playing as Ireland. If you are, then I will not use my scorched earth ideals, I just figured you were some other fool who wanted to get involved. If you are playing as Ireland, then forget about what I said earlier. But if not, then what I am about to post will continue.

ic:
24 Mo-3 Bombers taxied onto their respective runways, accompanied by 2 dozen JF-20 fighters. But before they took off, 2 Tu-560 High Altitude bombers lifted off, each carrying 38 ALCM's, and accompanied by an A-150 AWACs. They were off to find the SAMs located all over Sonsy. Several hours previous, satellite recon had passed over, capturing images of a few locations, but undoubtly there were more. 142 Tu-160's and 28 Tu-560's were being prepared at other locations to lift off several afters after the first Mo-3's. They carried free falling munitions... hundreds of thousands of tons of free falling munitions. 480 D.223's were prepped to run escort for the massive bombers, incase the meager Sonsy airforce decieded to show itself. They would of course be accompanied by several A-50 AWACs.

But before all of this would take place, two C-240's were already heading towards Sonsy, each carrying 28 SARTF soldiers, armed with RPG-22's, AVU-96 Rifles, Igla-S MANPADs, 82mm Mortars, Kord 14.7mm HMG's, AGS-30's, and a whole other assortment of goodies. Each C-240 also carried a Volk IFV, ready to be paradropped down to provide support to the SARTF soldiers, should they need it.


Official Response to Sonsy:
"Desist your "threats" and go elsewhere. Should you continue, we will force you to stop. We have taken your words as a threat against the Nation and Peoples of Artitsa, and will be forced to use Premptive Strike to deter your nation. If you wish to inform your allies, we will inform ours. All 268 of them from NCA, NJA, ESA, GDU, and TGP. If you desist now, no harm will come to your nation or your people, but as it stands you have threatened our nation, and we must react accordingly.

WoP, you are ignored for using future tech/underwater cities. In the 2004 to 2020 time period, there will not be underwater cities, able to be hidden and have a 5 Million + population. Good Day. If you want to continue to play, you will realize that in the NS world (which I have been playing in for more then a year) does not look kindly upon conventional ICBM's. OOC I know it is conventional, but in no way do my leaders or the ABM systems know its conventional. Even if you tell us Convetional, why would we believe you? We would allow you to launch nuclear weapons at our own silo's so there is no retaliation? Pass.


OOC

1) Reread what I have actually posted, rather than what you thought I posted.

Now point to the claim to have "undersea cities, able to be hidden and have a 5 million + population"

You can't, can you?

What I actually said was a) The geographic location of the Wrath is secret.
b) My submarine bases have undersea exits.

Not the same thing...

2) The difference between a nuclear and conventional weapon can only truly be told when it explodes.

There are nuclear cruise missiles, nuclear free-fall bombs and nuclear artilliery shells as well as nuclear ballistic missiles.

So by your logic everyone should launch a full-scale nuclear attack just in case that aircraft is about to drop a nuke, or that Tomahawk is a nuclear one, or that arty being driven into range has special weapons.

Your premise is spurious, and I reject it. Your logic might have had validity in the 50s and 60s, but it is out of date for the 21st century.

Conventional weapons that look like sea launched ballistic missiles on launch are coming in real life, get used to it.

download mIRC, connect to esper.net, then goto #nationstates. Once there ask anyone there what will happen if you fire a conventional trident III SLBM at a nation that IC doesn't know the payload that it is carrying. Good day.

The Soviet Fleet has arrived and is now setting up defense measures.MiG-29K aircraft are now patrolling for enemy vessels.

Due to a delay in advancement of the Euroslavic military and Imperial Navy, they have arrived at Ireland within the past hour, and are also preparing for the defense of the island...we are looking to form more of a strategy with Malatose, against the invading forces.

in resposnse to the presence of ever increasing numbers of potentially hostile forces Crookfur STRATCOM has authorised the deployment of the 6th POF, 4th submarine squadron and 3rd bombard squadron to Frazer's isle.

Futher deployments of airfroce assets will also take place.

OOC: Crookfur: Where are you located?

ooc: Yes, from which direction are you coming?

ooc: Are you playing as Ireland. If you are, then I will not use my scorched earth ideals, I just figured you were some other fool who wanted to get involved. If you are playing as Ireland, then forget about what I said earlier. But if not, then what I am about to post will continue.

ic:
24 Mo-3 Bombers taxied onto their respective runways, accompanied by 2 dozen JF-20 fighters. But before they took off, 2 Tu-560 High Altitude bombers lifted off, each carrying 38 ALCM's, and accompanied by an A-150 AWACs. They were off to find the SAMs located all over Sonsy. Several hours previous, satellite recon had passed over, capturing images of a few locations, but undoubtly there were more. 142 Tu-160's and 28 Tu-560's were being prepared at other locations to lift off several afters after the first Mo-3's. They carried free falling munitions... hundreds of thousands of tons of free falling munitions. 480 D.223's were prepped to run escort for the massive bombers, incase the meager Sonsy airforce decieded to show itself. They would of course be accompanied by several A-50 AWACs.

But before all of this would take place, two C-240's were already heading towards Sonsy, each carrying 28 SARTF soldiers, armed with RPG-22's, AVU-96 Rifles, Igla-S MANPADs, 82mm Mortars, Kord 14.7mm HMG's, AGS-30's, and a whole other assortment of goodies. Each C-240 also carried a Volk IFV, ready to be paradropped down to provide support to the SARTF soldiers, should they need it.


Official Response to Sonsy:
"Desist your "threats" and go elsewhere. Should you continue, we will force you to stop. We have taken your words as a threat against the Nation and Peoples of Artitsa, and will be forced to use Premptive Strike to deter your nation. If you wish to inform your allies, we will inform ours. All 268 of them from NCA, NJA, ESA, GDU, and TGP. If you desist now, no harm will come to your nation or your people, but as it stands you have threatened our nation, and we must react accordingly.


OOC: I'm not playing as Ireland directly, as I'm sure they're more organized than I am going to be. I'm playing as a large (639 million) nationalist faction of Ireland. I've been wanting to do a RP invasion of Northern Eire or Brittain, but haven't been able to get anyone interested.
IC:
In silence he stood, Kelly Houlihan, Supreme Executive Commander of the Free Land of Sonsy.
"They're coming to slaughter us, sir," said Bic Steubin, Interior Secretary. "We've received word of hundreds of acronymed heavy artillery crossing the ocean as we speak. We have to do something."
Kelly looked out the window of the decrepit, non-descript apartment complex. "We've heard their threats before. For hundreds of years, those threats have rung in our ears, and we have yet to back down from any imperialist swine. Are the men in position?"
"Scattered across the land, yessir," barked TV's Frank, Commander of the People's Front of Ireland militia.
"But -- but -- but the civilians. They won't be able to tell our combatants from our civilians," Steubin stammered.
"If we don't use Strategy V, they'll kill us all dammit. Artitsa is a nation of madmen, they have no sense of decency and they're thirsty for gaelic blood. We'll give them a sip, but they'll never drink from our deep sanguine well." Kelly spun around quickly and picked up the bright yellow phone. "Its time to release the beasts," Kelly informed the other end of the line.
"But they haven't been tested yet. They could kill more civilians than the Artitsans," the flustered Steubin insisted.
"But they may be our last chance. This will be their test."
Kelly turned back toward the city of Sonsy, its merry citizens unaware of the carnage about to ensue. For now...

(OOC: Where are all these fleets arriving? Has anyone set foot on Ireland, yet? Is anyone ignoring anybody else? If this is to become an ooc-argument-heavy thread, or one dominated by teeny tiny little "my force has arrived, are you dead, yet?" posts I'd prefer to back out and consider it a different universe.)

I may back out entirely, something huge has come up.

As mentioned previously We currently have a fleet base on Frazer's isle (about 50 miles west of Skye, adjust it a bit further if Uk territorial waters are further than 12miles), the Crookfur home land is slap bang in the middle of the atlantic on the northern edge of the gulf stream so we are ever so slightly south of the UK (one of these days i'll draw a map)

"I've received word that Artitsa is about to abandon the invasion" Bic Steubin squealed with delight.
"Chicken shits," Supreme Executive Commander Kelly Houlihan scoffed. "But everyone knows technology is no substitute for grit and determination. We woulda wiped the floor with 'em."
"Should I deactive the bombers and beasts yet?" asked TV's Frank, twitching with unsatisfied bloodlust.
"Lets wait and see how this pans out," Kelly said, sparking up a fat bowl of Sonsy's finest hydro. "We're not out of this just yet."

The C-240's as listed before carried on their merry way, having not turned around. ETA 20 minutes to drop point.

"Um, sir, we have a problem," Bic Steubin meekly approached Kelly.
"What is it now, Bic?"
"We've got a blip on the map, approaching quickly. Bombers."
"I want fifty men standing between them and sonsy with anti-aircraft guns."
"But, we only have 25 of those guns since the cutbacks."
"Then give the other 25 rocket launchers, NOW!!!"