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After much internal conjecture, Industrial Experiment is now creating a military

Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 13:22
Though our political entrance onto the world stage has been very much left in the dust of our economic entrance, we of Industrial Experiment wish to ensure our own survival in the case of any attacks on Idustrialite soil. We have already begun the process of purchasing a navy from from various sources, and are currently training the countless personnel that would be needed for such a large undertaking. However, we would also like to build an airforce, but we are, unfortunately, unable to find any suitable storefronts. We currently, after the purchase of our navy, have roughly 1.5036015 Trillion dollars left to spend on aircraft.

We would appreciate recommendations by the international community, and perhaps even a few sales. We are especially interested in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Also, we are looking into creating several armored divisions, and would also like recommendations in this area. Both Main battle tanks and mobile rocket and/or missle lauching platforms would be much appreciated.

Lastly, if the above wasn't too much of a bother, we would very much appreciate recommendations for suitable BDU's and infantry weapons. We do, however, have a decent idea on what kind of infantry weapons we wish to have. We're currently looking into the M-16 Rifle and the M-4 Carbine as main squad weapons, while the additional M-203 Grenade Launcher as an indirect fire method. However, our knowledge is limited in the field of machine guns, and we wish recommendations for a decent HMG type weapon.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 13:33
Though our political entrance onto the world stage has been very much left in the dust of our economic entrance, we of Industrial Experiment wish to ensure our own survival in the case of any attacks on Idustrialite soil. We have already begun the process of purchasing a navy from from various sources, and are currently training the countless personnel that would be needed for such a large undertaking. However, we would also like to build an airforce, but we are, unfortunately, unable to find any suitable storefronts. We currently, after the purchase of our navy, have roughly 1.8415 Trillion dollars left to spend on aircraft.

We would appreciate recommendations by the international community, and perhaps even a few sales. We are especially interested in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Also, we are looking into creating several armored divisions, and would also like recommendations in this area. Both Main battle tanks and mobile rocket and/or missle lauching platforms would be much appreciated.

Lastly, if the above wasn't too much of a bother, we would very much appreciate recommendations for suitable BDU's and infantry weapons. We do, however, have a decent idea on what kind of infantry weapons we wish to have. We're currently looking into the M-16 Rifle and the M-4 Carbine as main squad weapons, while the additional M-203 Grenade Launcher as an indirect fire method. However, our knowledge is limited in the field of machine guns, and we wish recommendations for a decent HMG type weapon.

We have a suggestion for you. You should spend a large amount of money on your ground army. Being able to field large tanks such as the JJRHGWP-56j
and heavy artillery can change a battle tide. Might we suggest the before-mentioned 56j? It's a heavy tank with ERA armor, a 650 RPM Heavy Machinegun on top and dual 75mm Railguns for main weapons. It's not fast, but it does the job. 15,000,000 USD apiece.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 13:36
OoC: I'm trying to keep this a 2010-ish tech level, and though I don't profess an expertise, I don't know whether or not those railguns would fit under a 2010 level.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 14:02
I am now in need of a source of jet planes than ever. I just purchased quite a large number of carriers, altogether capable of holding thousands of attack planes, but not a single one comes with its airwing. Of my 69 carriers, only 24 of them have an airwing!
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 14:12
OoC: I'm trying to keep this a 2010-ish tech level, and though I don't profess an expertise, I don't know whether or not those railguns would fit under a 2010 level.

OOC: Yeah. A 25-year-old Engineer can make a nice handheld one 4 years ago, you can make a huge big one in 2010. It fits.
Fuhrer landw
01-08-2004, 15:39
Any half-wit with a few billion people could easily crush your nation if it didn't have a military , comrade
DontPissUsOff
01-08-2004, 15:42
Try our storefront (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336823), and see if there's anything ya like. Post if you're interested, and if there are any problems I'm very accomodating, especially for those starting a new military. :)
Akaton
01-08-2004, 15:55
The Evil Empire of Akaton has exactly what you need for your carrier fleet.
The Reaper Class Wingless VTOL needs no modification for carrier use, as it takes off and lands like a helicopter. Though it mounts light railguns in its standard configuration, they can be replaced with conventional anti-tank guns if your country can't support railgun tech.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/DraconisX13/ReaperVTOL.bmp

XH-76 Reaper Class Wingless VTOL:
Length: 9.5 meters
Width: 2.5 meters
Engines: Single vertically oriented turbojet vented through rotating, side-mounted thrust nozzels.
Maximum Speed: 874 Kph
Maximum altitude: 20,000 meters
Maximum Range: 7500 Kilometers
Armor: Titanium composite with optional nano fibre thermal/laser disipation systems.
Electronics: 1) Ground scanning thermal imaging system.
2) Standard multi-frequency radar (easy to upgrade)
3) Standard ECM (easy to upgrade)
Weaponry: 1) Two 40mm light rail guns on rotating forward mounts.
2) Hardpoints capabl of holding 500kg of missiles/bombs.
Cost Per Aircraft: US$ 75,000,000
Cost For Design Plans: US$ 7,000,000,000
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 01:42
Here is what I have ordered for my Navy. Everything but the Doujins are confirmed.

1st Fleet (Home Fleet) Patrols Industrial Experiment's Single Coastline

- 1 Doujin Mk2 Refit Class BBCN 'Super Dreadnought'
- 1 Poseidon Class SSRN 'Railgun Attack Submarine'
- 8 Yorktown Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 15 Behemoth Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 10 Arizona Class BBG 'Guided Missle Battleship'
- 20 Kirov Class CGN 'Nuclear Powered Battle Cruiser'
- 40 Arleigh Burke Class DDG 'Guided Missle Destroyer'
- 20 Galaxy Class SSN 'Nuclear Multi-role Submarine'
- 25 Seawolf Class SSN 'Fast Attack Submarine'
- 15 Ohio Class SSGN 'Cruise Missle Submarine'
- 10 Ohio Class SSBN 'Nuclear Ballistic Missle Submarine'

2nd Fleet (Western Fleet) Patrols the Western Ocean off of Pride Experiment

- 1 Doujin Mk2 Refit Class BBCN 'Super Dreadnought'
- 1 Poseidon Class SSRN 'Railgun Attack Submarine'
- 8 Yorktown Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 15 Behemoth Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 10 Arizona Class BBG 'Guided Missle Battleship'
- 20 Kirov Class CGN 'Nuclear Powered Battle Cruiser'
- 40 Arleigh Burke Class DDG 'Guided Missle Destroyer'
- 20 Galaxy Class SSN 'Nuclear Multi-role Submarine'
- 25 Seawolf Class SSN 'Fast Attack Submarine'
- 15 Ohio Class SSGN 'Cruise Missle Submarine'
- 10 Ohio Class SSBN 'Nuclear Ballistic Missle Submarine'

3rd Fleet (Northern Fleet) Patrols the Northern Ocean off of Chaso Experiment

- 1 Doujin Mk2 Refit Class BBCN 'Super Dreadnought'
- 1 Poseidon Class SSRN 'Railgun Attack Submarine'
- 8 Yorktown Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 15 Behemoth Class CVN 'Supercarrier'
- 10 Arizona Class BBG 'Guided Missle Battleship'
- 20 Kirov Class CGN 'Nuclear Powered Battle Cruiser'
- 40 Arleigh Burke Class DDG 'Guided Missle Destroyer'
- 20 Galaxy Class SSN 'Nuclear Multi-role Submarine'
- 25 Seawolf Class SSN 'Fast Attack Submarine'
- 15 Ohio Class SSGN 'Cruise Missle Submarine'
- 10 Ohio Class SSBN 'Nuclear Ballistic Missle Submarine'

Do you think it is sufficient?
Newtdom
02-08-2004, 01:50
I'll just interject if you don't mind. I have quite a large navy, and for my own reasons. Such as the extent of my empire, and where its situated, along with a certain heritage. It all depends, if you feel that 3 fleets suffices your needs your set. Me, personally believe in a strong navy as the first line of defense. Due to my location, you'd have to first go through my allies to get to me, or go through my navy to get to me. Granted my neighbors are not nearly as strong. But thats why I invested in a large navy, about 1/4 of my military personel is in it. Which is 61 million people. And I have about 15 different fleets that go on patrol. Anyway, it depends on the size, and location of your country for naval purposes. I offer a variant of the JSF in my store (which I just opened), the one in there is my naval version, though I do offer it in VTOL format, and Ground runway take off format. Just tell me what you want.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344854
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 01:54
My nation is completely land-locked except for one side.

http://a.1asphost.com/Plushie/MBP%20Alliance%20Map.JPG

The Home Fleet protects that singular coastline, while the others protect my allies.

NOTE: That map is slightly out of date, and additional nation has been added to the alliance since that map's creation.

Also, I express interest in this JSF variant. What advantages does it have on the original JSF?
Newtdom
02-08-2004, 01:59
The Phoenix, a variant on the JSF is a hybrid of sorts. It has a higher payload, a different engine and power plant, and can excede the JSF in both ceiling, and speed. It has been the mainstay of our nation's airforce and navy for some time now. Redesigned and built at Newtdom's largest military arms producer, the Newtdom Royal Mili-Tech plant right outside of Winchester. It is a beauty of an aircraft, and in both peace time trials and war time experience has out fought the JSF on many occasions.
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 02:02
I am very interested in this aircraft, may I inquire as to a price?
Red Tide2
02-08-2004, 02:03
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY Z
From Tech-Com Corp.
To Industrial Experiment
We have 3 veichles that should serve your armored division needs well:

T-90SX
Class: Main Battle Tank
Armament:135 mm ETC cannon, 1 .50 caliber machine guns(top mounted).
Equipment:Same as that of a Abrams(with a Fast-Auto Loader)
Engine:AHS-1 Diesel Engine
Notes: This is a modified, tougher, larger, heavier, and slower model(by 3 MPH) of the T-90S model.
Cost(per tank): 8 million USD

B-100 Ravager
Class:Heavy Mobile Artillery
Armament:3 175 mm ETC cannons, 1 .50 caliber machine gun
Equipment: GPS Guidance System, Radio, Artillery Height Control System
Engine:AHS-1 Diesel Engine
Top Speed:20 MPH
Range:38 miles
Notes:This has two modes, Ordinary and Siege: In Ordinary the B-100 moves around and can only fire its .50 Caliber. In Siege it cannot move and can fire its main cannons AND .50 caliber.
Cost:14 million USD(per system)

MDM-6
Armament: 24 Ungiuded or Guided Rockets(12 packs)
Equipment:Fire Control System, Radio, Artillery Height Control System, GPS Guidance System
Engine:AHS-1 Diesel Engine
Top Speed: 55 MPH
Range:40 miles
Notes:This is basically a modified MLRS
Cost:11 million USD

OOC:If any of these prices look off tell me.
Newtdom
02-08-2004, 02:08
Yes, my apologies the storefront is still a work in process. It usually sells for 13 million a piece. Though of course we can work a deal out.
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 02:10
I am currently in the process of purchasing 10,000 RNI-MRK4 Merkava IV Main Battle Tanks from Roman Republic. However, should that deal fall through, I shall look into that tank.

Unfortunately, though, I am quite adamant in purchasing Crusader SPH's, which I already have 1,000 under scrutiny. I will look for more of the same should the deal fall through.

The MDM-6, however, interests me. What would you say to 100 of them for the required 1,100,000,000 USD? Money can be wired as soon as order confirmation is recieved.
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 02:13
Newtdom, how much would you be willing to sell production rights and blueprints of the aircraft for? I, unfortunately, need an amazingly huge number of them, and it would be much easier on my nation's budget for me to produce them myself over time than to buy them en masse.

I, of course, would sign a contract stating that I would never sell any of these planes to any nation but yours and not use them in aggressive military actions against your country or any of your allies.
Newtdom
02-08-2004, 02:17
Fair enough, I understand completely. I too have bought production rights to many items. I would say 1 Billion (US) should suffice. I know it sounds a bit high, but this fighter should last as long as the F-14 lasted the US military. It won't fail you. And its much sought after.
Red Tide2
02-08-2004, 02:24
OOC:Fun Fact: The MDM in MDM-6 Stands for Missile Defender Model. Another Fun Fact:The MDM-6 Rockets can also carry bilogical or chemical weapons.

IC:100 MDM-6's will be fine! Order Confirmed. We expect the money too be wired as soon as the first shipments arrive.
Industrial Experiment
02-08-2004, 21:50
Newtdom: 1 billion sounds fine. Money will be wired upon confirmation of blueprint shipment.

Red Tide: Very well, money will be wired as per your conditions.