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The Union of Socialist Republic of Russian Forces is now starting to pose economic sanctions on The Infamous Automagfreek. We do not wish to have a war but we want to get most nations to block all economic trade with the nation of terror. If you do this, you are giving a Dictator a bad day which is quite a good thing, would you not agree? This means you don't let a single citizen to even think of bartering with a filthy Freek. Russian Forces welcomes all to join. Even if you don't know AMF, i suggest you do it because one day he might invade your small nation.

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From Vladimir Putin - The RF Premier

Taren walks over and knocks on Auto's door, "Hey, do you have a cup of sugar I can borrow?"

We fully support your views and will back you up in any war that might be necessary.

Premier Aytac Yaraneri

EDIT: we wish this to be as serious as it can get

OOC: Yes, well, I never thought much of sanctions. Anyway. Are either of you in the AoSS? Just need to know.

obviously some nations do not have the honour to stand up against a oppressor.

Such as who, exactly? You may find me quite hard to push around. Our weaponry is highly advanced. (Look at the Information Technology. I finally got under 1000 in the world on something!)

OOC: I've had my fair share of AMF stand offs, remeber that he almost destroyed me? I'm not going to anger him again. And whats wrong with dictatorships? I'm one and I'm not being sanctioned every other day?

well then... do you want to have a piece of him for attacking you?

OOC: And you stand this? He almost destroyed you and you willing to stand off of a chance of destroying him?

-tag, considering what to do-

well then... do you want to have a piece of him for attacking you?
Forces. I'm the regional defender of the Alliance of Socialist States. I have many, many allies. I suggest you back off.

well then... do you want to have a piece of him for attacking you?
OOC: Now AMF, this is just OOC. Hell yeah, but I'm bussy attacking a nuclear trigger happy nation, so I can't help at the moment. Maby later.

you are in no position to tell me to back off. I could crush you like an insect.

Forces. I'm the regional defender of the Alliance of Socialist States. I have many, many allies. I suggest you back off.


i dont get you, we are against AMF, not you

and please, we do not need to start a war amongst ourselves

Technocracia fully backs these actions by our allies, Ruissia and Russian Forces. We also agree to sanctions of AMF and will back both of our allies with force if needs be to defend them from the Imperialism of AutoMagFreek and his right wing friends.

you are in no position to tell me to back off. I could crush you like an insect.
Sure. One question, one comment. First, do you have drafting? Second, even if you DO, we have about equal-sized armies, and my technology FAR exceeds yours. So you really wouldn't win.

i dont get you, we are against AMF, not you

and please, we do not need to start a war amongst ourselves

And I'm against YOU. I side with Auto. I know him, and he hasn't betrayed me, and I KNOW I can trust him. You, I doubt.

Sure. One question, one comment. First, do you have drafting? Second, even if you DO, we have about equal-sized armies, and my technology FAR exceeds yours. So you really wouldn't win.


Comrades, let us not fight amongst ourselves. We are putting sanctions on AMF, not you. You need not worry, let us not have this infighting. United we shall stand.

The Eternal states of Unified Sith pledges its assistance to this noble endevour. May we break the evil the is AMF.

Oh god why worry about someone like AMF?

Yibok has not yet been convinced to commit our power to any action without just reason. If a good reason is produced we shall reconsider. However, we shall support our allies, Technocracia, in any way required.

Comrades, let us not fight amongst ourselves. We are putting sanctions on AMF, not you. You need not worry, let us not have this infighting. United we shall stand.
I will still trade with Auto fully. Technocracia, you talk about Imperialism as suck a bad thing, but this is a mix of the worst traits of both Imperialism and Isolationism. Of all people, I didn't think you would be trying to force ideas on other nations.

I will still trade with Auto fully. Technocracia, you talk about Imperialism as suck a bad thing, but this is a mix of the worst traits of both Imperialism and Isolationism. Of all people, I didn't think you would be trying to force ideas on other nations.


We're not trying to force our ideas on AMF. He is a bully and we just felt sanctions may warn him to tone down his imperialist actions. We have not committed troops to any invasion, we are simply showing imperialists they can't get away with this anymore.

We're not trying to force our ideas on AMF. He is a bully and we just felt sanctions may warn him to tone down his imperialist actions. We have not committed troops to any invasion, we are simply showing imperialists they can't get away with this anymore.
Ahhhhhh. So forcing him to stop using force with force. Didn't Ghandi say something about that?

Ahhhhhh. So forcing him to stop using force with force. Didn't Ghandi say something about that?


Sanctions are not really force. They're just us refusing to trade with him.

AMF is really shaking right now... Less than 10 nations don't trade with him. You realize this does nothing to hom?

Sanctions are not really force. They're just us refusing to trade with him.
It is. You can't just say, "Oh that's different." Tell me, who has he attacked to deserve this?

AMF is your enemy. AMF will one day destroy you. Join us when you have the chance.

As Automagfreek's longest-standing ally, we cannot enter into these sanctions, our nation has stood with the Freeks since the beginning and we will continue to support our ally.

It is. You can't just say, "Oh that's different." Tell me, who has he attacked to deserve this?

Many have critised the Counter-Imperialist Alliance becuase they say it lacks the courage to stop larger nations. Well, here's your proof these critics are wrong.

Sanctions are not force. How in any way are they force? It's just our nation refusing to trade with another nation. How can this be compared to force in any other way? We are simply refusing to trade with a nation we find hostile to socialism and anti imperialism, a nation who has in the past blocked our attempts at counter imperialism or prevention of genocide.

AMF is your enemy. AMF will one day destroy you. Join us when you have the chance.
AMF is 2/3 yours of my side. We have nothing to worry about. Why bother helping these clowns. They're just using you to scare everyone away.

To be fair, is AMF a threat to me? I am bigger than him, have a hugely militaristic culture in which every youngster does a compulsery 3 year military service, so I have a nice size naval force (mainly submarines). I am an archipeligo, which is a group of islands, which, as the UK proved to Hitler, is a hard place to invade. To be honest I fail to see the threat posed by a smaller nation.
Also I haven't done anything to annoy him...

To be fair, is AMF a threat to me? I am bigger than him, have a hugely militaristic culture in which every youngster does a compulsery 3 year military service, so I have a nice size naval force (mainly submarines). I am an archipeligo, which is a group of islands, which, as the UK proved to Hitler, is a hard place to invade. To be honest I fail to see the threat posed by a smaller nation.

He has an AWFUL lot of allies (30 nations), and is a veteran of many wars. Trust me, he's more of a threat now than he's ever been to anyone, no matter what their size. He is a dangerous power.

We support this coalition.

We support.

JJR, you don't understand. Alliance of Socialist States - we are ALL Socialist. If you are not with us, do not support the enemy.

AMF does not eat babies.

AMF does not steal children

AMF is not a man in a grey suit hijacking deomcracy to serve his own sinister ends.

AMF doesnt attack unprovoked (for my nation's entire history)

*Continues same policy of free trade to all nations that we have followed since the founding*

We support.

JJR, you don't understand. Alliance of Socialist States - we are ALL Socialist. If you are not with us, do not support the enemy.


Guess what. The Alliance of Socialist States is a REAL alliance of REAL Socialists who have better things to do than bloody knuckles with Auto.

like being a dog on a AMF leesh?

This Morning the Dr_Twist Parliament Voted overwhelmingly 2345 - 32, That the Dr_Twist Government will impose Instant Economic Sanctions on the Nation of AMF.

With this Parliament has passed the Mutual Defense ACT, The Nation has Been Ordered at once to begin the Biggest Military Buildup in the History of Dr_Twist, The Nation is to be Placed on an Instant All out War Footing Preparing for Anything.

An Official Government Press Release this Morning Stated that This new Act and the Economic Sanctions have nothing to Do with Each other but to only look out for the Protection of Dr_Twist and her Allies.

Dr_Twist.

Guess what. The Alliance of Socialist States is a REAL alliance of REAL Socialists who have better things to do than bloody knuckles with Auto.

what do you think we are doing this for? just for the fun of it? dont you see, he goes and attacks nations that are 50- pop, and says he is great, gotta save them

what do you think we are doing this for? just for the fun of it? dont you see, he goes and attacks nations that are 50- pop, and says he is great, gotta save them

Here here!

Still, your opposing your comrades. If your not going to help, don't bother helping him.

Do you enjoy pain. I could crash all of you in a snap, with the exception on Russian Forces. He might take two snaps to beat.

Do you enjoy pain. I could crash all of you in a snap, with the exception on Russian Forces. He might take two snaps to beat.

please, we do not have anything to do with you, all we want to do is get AMF to change his ways

please, we do not have anything to do with you, all we want to do is get AMF to change his ways

If Jar Jar Ridge here wants to start trouble, Axis Nova will gladly assist you in mowing him down.

Axis Nova

If Jar Jar Ridge here wants to start trouble, Axis Nova will gladly assist you in mowing him down.

Axis Nova

we thank you for your support, and yet again we state that we are against AMF, but other nations have to be taken care of as we pass

Do you enjoy pain. I could crash all of you in a snap, with the exception on Russian Forces. He might take two snaps to beat.

Thanks for that wonderfully socialist statement. You mock our socialist beliefs and say that you're the "true" socialist, yet your a compulsary consumerist state. Technocracia, not exactly a liberal paradise, still has higher civil rights for its citizens than your citizens have in your "socialist" nation.

Also, don't forget, RF isn't the only one bigger than you "comrade".

In support of a great number of nations who are my allies, i will assist them in taking AMF down and putting an end to his madness.

AMF, you were a good friend until you hindered relations some time ago for attacking me for reversing a decision involving the saving of millions of innocent lives in Somalia during my liberation of the nation. (i know you remember). I could not allow you to go in and mindlessly destroy anything and everything, despite how upset i was that a counter coalition was being formed. It is a matter of morals, something that you sometimes seem to lack, and quite frankly im glad that i made the decision to not allow you to go in and destroy everything in sight. That is not keeping in the Credonian tradition of helping, assisting, and progressing less privileged nations and their people.

Therefore, Credonia's FULL support goes to the coalition against AMF.

Thanks for that wonderfully socialist statement. You mock our socialist beliefs and say that you're the "true" socialist, yet your a compulsary consumerist state. Technocracia, not exactly a liberal paradise, still has higher civil rights for its citizens than your citizens have in your "socialist" nation.

Also, don't forget, RF isn't the only one bigger than you "comrade".

I am not a Socialist nation in itself. I am just the defender of many of them. Also, your are socialist. Your Technocracy. Look at your name even. You only do this because your are worried he will defeat you. You are no comrade of mine. Someone like the Anarcho-Communist States of Mu-Mu is my comrade. You are not. You'd likely call Stalin the saviour of Russia! Heh.

It matters not what you do. You may sanction him, but I trade with him, and my allies trade with me. In order to truly do any damage you would have to sanction every one of the true comrades. You will have to sanction all of my allies, innocent in every respect. And you will have to sanction me. Do what you will, We can supply to ourselves.

I am not a Socialist nation in itself. I am just the defender of many of them. Also, your are socialist. Your Technocracy. Look at your name even. You only do this because your are worried he will defeat you. You are no comrade of mine. Someone like the Anarcho-Communist States of Mu-Mu is my comrade. You are not. You'd likely call Stalin the saviour of Russia! Heh.

I am NOT a Technocracy. Technocracia is just a name. It is true that my nation started off as a Technocracy, but that was before nations like yours had even been formed in NS.

I am NOT worried AMF will defeat me, as i'm not at war with him, im refusing to trade with him. Technocracia is not claiming to be a socialist nation, nor do we worship Stalin. If you had looked at our nations background you would know we were one of the driving forces on stopping the Alliance of Stalinist States from attacking our liberal socialist comrades of the Communist Alliance. The CA nearly had open war with the Stalinists, and i supported the CA. Any more mindless, baseless accusations? You'll be saying my nation supports totalitarianism soon, because both my nation and that belief start with a T. Please try and add some base to your accusations!

I am NOT a Technocracy. Technocracia is just a name. It is true that my nation started off as a Technocracy, but that was before nations like yours had even been formed in NS.

I am NOT worried AMF will defeat me, as i'm not at war with him, im refusing to trade with him. Technocracia is not claiming to be a socialist nation, nor do we worship Stalin. If you had looked at our nations background you would know we were one of the driving forces on stopping the Alliance of Stalinist States from attacking our liberal socialist comrades of the Communist Alliance. The CA nearly had open war with the Stalinists, and i supported the CA. Any more mindless, baseless accusations? You'll be saying my nation supports totalitarianism soon, because both my nation and that belief start with a T. Please try and add some base to your accusations!

Who then, exactly, IS the saviour of Russia? Tell me that.

The Russian people!

The Russian people!
The People? Quite dogmatic, but not what I was looking for.

No answer, "comrade"?

Ah...another pointless attempt to bring down a nation doing nothing wrong, motivated as far as I see by jealousy. Sorry gents, but I won't be joining in this.

Ah...another pointless attempt to bring down a nation doing nothing wrong, motivated as far as I see by jealousy. Sorry gents, but I won't be joining in this.
Thanks. Nice saying. Now, back to business:

And the answer is.... LENIN! You guys are thick! If you ever call yourselves comrades again I'm just gonna laugh.

Lenin's been dead eighty years, so it's a tad late for him personally to do any saving of anybody. His doctrine maybe, but not himself.

AMF is really shaking right now... Less than 10 nations don't trade with him. You realize this does nothing to hom?
so true, so true...

Lenin's been dead eighty years, so it's a tad late for him personally to do any saving of anybody. His doctrine maybe, but not himself.
He WAS a saviour at one point though. Shhhhh.

The Union of Socialist Republic of Russian Forces is now starting to pose economic sanctions on The Infamous Automagfreek. We do not wish to have a war but we want to get most nations to block all economic trade with the nation of terror. If you do this, you are giving a Dictator a bad day which is quite a good thing, would you not agree? This means you don't let a single citizen to even think of bartering with a filthy Freek. Russian Forces welcomes all to join. Even if you don't know AMF, i suggest you do it because one day he might invade your small nation.

Let me think about this.....hmmm....hmmmm.....no.

"Atlantis condemns this bockade agenst AMF. And we are sure the rest of the APTO will feel the same way"

I am confident we can assist in any military action against AMF, however, in light of a recent terrorist attack, we are somewhat weakened. Aid would be welcome and may improve our chances of becoming involved.

(see http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344228&page=1)

Anatoly Korenchkin
Joint President of Kanabia, Kanabian Nationalist Party.

A harrassed looking seventeen yeard old clerk thrashed out a response that he'd been told to '...be creative with..' in ten minutes he was aiming to already be outside and on his home.

"The Incorporated States of Tom Joad sees little point in blockading a nation that engages in substantial trade, perhaps if AMF were hampering trade globally there would be cause to become involved. However the ISTJ is not currently involved in trading with AMF and neither are any of its substantial private investors so there is even less reason to support such sanctions."

i pity all that are backing off because they are afraid of AMF. Yes, thats what all you are.

The Federation would be willing to consider this proposal. For the National Assembly to even vote on it, however, someone would have to demonstrate that AMF has engaged in substantial acts of imperialism, violations of sovreignty, and human rights abuses.

The Federation would be willing to consider this proposal. For the National Assembly to even vote on it, however, someone would have to demonstrate that AMF has engaged in substantial acts of imperialism, violations of sovreignty, and human rights abuses.

Just read his stories.

The Imperium fully supports AMF. This is just more left-wing Imperialism. And, if war should break out we will support AMF with our military. We will not join this Imperiatic coalition.

i pity all that are backing off because they are afraid of AMF. Yes, thats what all you are.


Have you even considered the fact that most countries who are against this blockade have warm relations with AMF, and that in fact, they are not scared of him. There's no reason to be scared of him, AMF is a good nation, and has not done anything to upset us.

The United Freedom Forces of Euroslavia condemns this Alliance as 'worthless' due to the fact that majority of the nations he trades with are in the APTO anyways. His economy won't change one bit now that about 10 nations won't trade with him. This Alliance isn't going anywhere...especially with the leadership of Russian Forces...

Have you even considered the fact that most countries who are against this blockade have warm relations with AMF, and that in fact, they are not scared of him. There's no reason to be scared of him, AMF is a good nation, and has not done anything to upset us.

The United Freedom Forces of Euroslavia condemns this Alliance as 'worthless' due to the fact that majority of the nations he trades with are in the APTO anyways. His economy won't change one bit now that about 10 nations won't trade with him. This Alliance isn't going anywhere...especially with the leadership of Russian Forces...
Exactly why I help him. I know him. I also pledge militarial support if it comes to it.

Official Tyrandis Statement:

"Great. A handful of nations proclaim economic sanctions on the most violent, warlike nation in the world, and expect others to follow this foolhardy path. Of course we'll join willingly! We'll join just because we want to see our women burned and our houses raped by AMF's Sentinels.

Please. When your corpses are drawn and quartered, then pissed upon by the Freeks, we'll be in the audience, laughing our collective asses off."

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-tifa.jpg
Director Tifa Lockhart
Director of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Women burned ok, but houses raped?

I just wish I could kill all the AMF-Asslickers.

Women burned ok, but houses raped?

LOL

Just to clarify, my earlier post was not meant as a show of support for AMF. I am neutral as far as he is concerned (and as well I should be; he can't get at me and I doubt I could get at him).

Axis Nova

I whole heartedly support this death wish, I mean endvour. But we will not help in any way, in fact we are going to try and increase trade with Automagfreek.

The Supreme Soviet of Malatose has voted to begin economic sanctions on the nation of AMF.We urge Russian Forces to be strong for the people and comrade Lenin!

OOC: Just so Russian Forces actually notices this:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344835

Quite frankly we are a little confused as to which action Russian Forces and their allies are conducting, however each possibility is riddled with problems.

The first possibility is that Russian Forces has placed a trade embargo on Automagfreek and asked others to do so in order to damage AMF's economy... however, due to the fact that there are easily 100'000 nations in the world and that Automagfreek has a large base of allies such an action would only be a matter of your nations personal ethics, not being willing to trade with a nation like AMF.


The second possibility is that Russian forces is trying to enforce a blockade again Automagfreek, which is probably one of the most dangerous things you can try seeing as a blockade is an act of war. To acheive a blockade your nations, and others, will have to deploy forces to enforce such an action, these will probably be attacked by AMF and his allies... were it not for...


The third and final point. I think AMF ignores Russian Forces ever since the whole war crap several months ago. So the chances are that AMF isn't going to reply to this crap.

OOC: i seem to remember my last encounter with JJR ended up with me breaking out my arsenal of ignore cannons for his uber godmoding

Women burned ok, but houses raped?

That's what he said he did to New Spartha in his factbook, IIRC.

Quite frankly we are a little confused as to which action Russian Forces and their allies are conducting, however each possibility is riddled with problems.

The first possibility is that Russian Forces has placed a trade embargo on Automagfreek and asked others to do so in order to damage AMF's economy... however, due to the fact that there are easily 100'000 nations in the world and that Automagfreek has a large base of allies such an action would only be a matter of your nations personal ethics, not being willing to trade with a nation like AMF.


The second possibility is that Russian forces is trying to enforce a blockade again Automagfreek, which is probably one of the most dangerous things you can try seeing as a blockade is an act of war. To acheive a blockade your nations, and others, will have to deploy forces to enforce such an action, these will probably be attacked by AMF and his allies... were it not for...


The third and final point. I think AMF ignores Russian Forces ever since the whole war crap several months ago. So the chances are that AMF isn't going to reply to this crap.


That may be true for RF however the nations that are not ignored by AMF are still putting these sanctions on and its hardly ignorable.

That's what he said he did to New Spartha in his factbook, IIRC.

Kinky...

Heh, the entire APTO is laughing at this, see you can hear our laughter here.. [HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHALMFAOROFL!!!!!!!1!111!!!one!!1!]

That may be true for RF however the nations that are not ignored by AMF are still putting these sanctions on and its hardly ignorable.

Well actually, they are. Think about it, 10-20 nations out of 100'000. The trade isn't going to be affected, even if you just counted the nations who role-play there will be enough allies and enterprising neutrals to pick up any slack.

Whats more, seeing as all the nations who are placing trade embargoes on AMF are generally against him it's unlikely he will have to even change contracts because he probably wasn't trading with you in the first place.

Trade embargoes have little to no effect in NS because there are tonnes of nations who beleive in "Free Trade" and these nations, who like money, will always pick up any trade you guys ban.

I place trade embargo nations to stop traders from trading with un-ethical nations because my nation controls the businesses and sees them as an extension of their diplomacy.

Your sanctions will have no real affect on AMF unless he has a huge contract with you which he RPed...

Ralaad is giving AMF full support, and is calling on the rest of the New Roman Empire to do the same.

That may be true for RF however the nations that are not ignored by AMF are still putting these sanctions on and its hardly ignorable.

yes it is. the 38 some other nations in the APTO still trade with AMF. They include such big boys as Elara, Sambizie, Adjeeni, Crimmond, Pantera, 5 Civilized Nations, and me.

And besides that, there are SO many nations on NS that 10 blockading him won't help you one bit.

We officaly side with AMF in this matter.

OOC: i seem to remember my last encounter with JJR ended up with me breaking out my arsenal of ignore cannons for his uber godmoding

/OOC: JJR ain't godmodding. He spent a long time working up before he even started on his future-tech

It has occured to me that 6 pages of dialogue has been spent on discussing AMF. That alone should be a red flag. You don't spend all this time talking about someone if you don't either respect him or fear him.

AMF is big, powerful, rich, and ruthless.....my kind of nation.

I can't wait for the day to arrive when dozens of nations spend hours and days talking about Xeraph and the Xeraphian Federation. We have very similar qualities< AMF and us. We built slowly, and picked our fights....and have yet to be defeated.

Xeraph has many allies, approx 28 at last count, most of them w/pop of over a billion. And Xeraph is part of a number of Alliances with pop of billions, all of which have pledged mutual aid in times of war.

We have traditionally taken the side of the underdog, those nations who are up-and-coming, and who were being threatened by the big boys. I've never had to come to the aid of a nation threatened by AMF. Most of the aid I've rendered were military strikes against terrorists.

So, I've said all this to say that there will always be those nations who rant and rave against the big guys. Jealous, probably. I for one will not choose sides in this matter because it does not directly affect me. But I have a sneaking suspicion that if AMF seems to need help, I'll be there for him just as I would for any other nation unfairly put upon.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)

OOC: Well in anycase because it's Russian Forces running this thread I can confirm that Automagfreek isn't going to bother with it.

In IRC he has asked me to point out that he still ignores Russian Forces since the war he had with him maybe about 6 months ago which ended in a ignore-fest.

Okay, let me point out one of the reasons why an economic sanction against AMF, or anyone in the APTO, is pointless. Our trade amongst ourselves is far greater than with smaller nations like those trying to enact the sanction. You would in no way hurt his economy. This sanction is like throwing a pebble at a cliff expecting the cliff to be damaged.

i feel ashamed to state once again that this economical embargo is actually of no true stance as none of us actually trade with him. Its just a way that we voice our opinions that we are against AMFs current leadership and look for a change

" Our trade amongst ourselves is far greater than with smaller nations like those trying to enact the sanction" by Sigma Octavus

Who is the smaller nation? Technocracia is bigger than both yourself and AMF, as am I. (although I am not enforcing a trade embargo anyhoos)

Who is the smaller nation? Technocracia is bigger than both yourself and AMF, as am I. (although I am not enforcing a trade embargo anyhoos)

Size means nothing. A nation of 50 million could easily RP the pants off of a nation of 2 billion. The size of your nation dosen't matter, it's how you play the game.

Of course, Hattia has never traded with AMF, so...

Yeah...

Vladimir Haton Oste
Hattian Commisar of Finances

Chellis is saddened to see Russian Forces following such a fool-hardy plan, and is thinking of breaking off political ties, which are normally very good, with russian forces.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344835

Just reposting the thread to the anti-RF side, so that people browsing this page can easily access it :)

OOC: I'd take action, but since it appears that you don't exist* there's really nothing for me to do.

*- if the blockaded nation refuses to participate in an RP with a previously ignored nation then there's little that I can do to support or oppose either side.

OOC: I thought RF and AMF were ignoring each other.

AMF has already told me in IRC that he's not going to bother with this thread because he ignores Russian Forces, so yeah, at least Automagfreek is sticking to it.

OCC: my Method is to rally so many AMF enemies that he can't ignore everyone. Even if he ignores me, he'll have to ignore so many others and prove himself what i have called him a long time ago. Im just merely going to prove what i said about him. He ignores basically anyone bigger than him, which i find so amusing.

OCC: my Method is to rally so many AMF enemies that he can't ignore everyone. Even if he ignores me, he'll have to ignore so many others and prove himself what i have called him a long time ago. Im just merely going to prove what i said about him. He ignores basically anyone bigger than him, which i find so amusing.
OOC: Well, he doesn't ignore me. And he can flatten the rest of the people involved in your "method". Oh, and your stupid.

AMF has already told me in IRC that he's not going to bother with this thread because he ignores Russian Forces, so yeah, at least Automagfreek is sticking to it.
ok

OOC: Well, he doesn't ignore me. And he can flatten the rest of the people involved in your "method". Oh, and your stupid.

OCC:Im stupid... well thankyou for being an arsehole on a mere computer game. I like to question your status of your social life, seeing your current people skills.

OCC:Im stupid... well thankyou for being an arsehole on a mere computer game. I like to question your status of your social life, seeing your current people skills.
most likely, zilch. :)

most likely, zilch. :)
OOC: *cries* -.2

OCC: my Method is to rally so many AMF enemies that he can't ignore everyone. Even if he ignores me, he'll have to ignore so many others and prove himself what i have called him a long time ago. Im just merely going to prove what i said about him. He ignores basically anyone bigger than him, which i find so amusing.

As some other members of the APTO pointed out, we're laughing at you. In fact, we still are. A measly 10-20 nation blockade won't do CRAP. And what if, by some act of god, you manage to get all 50,000 some nations to blockade AMF? Why, AMF can just trade with the rest of the APTO. You know....that orginazation we're in....with about 40 some members?

[OOC: I'm sure there are a lot of countries that AMF has no relations with anyway, so economic sanctions would have nothing more than a symbolic effect. If you impose a blockade, that's an act of war.]

IC: Sarzonia does not currently have relations with Automagfreek. Therefore, we will not impose any sanctions upon them.

We will not condemn AMF, in their wars they fight for a just cause and for the saftey of the world. We find these actions taken by Russian Forces to be aggressive and warmongering and thus condemn the nation of Russian Forces for trying to foment a war with AMF.

I thus far have not seen AMF attack anyone without due provocation. In any case, we don't really care...

OCC: my Method is to rally so many AMF enemies that he can't ignore everyone. Even if he ignores me, he'll have to ignore so many others and prove himself what i have called him a long time ago. Im just merely going to prove what i said about him.

So in another words you're baiting him and trying to grief him at the same time? I think this calls for some moderator intervention, because he stated on IRC that he does not want to RP with you. Can't you just respect that and leave him alone?

He ignores basically anyone bigger than him, which i find so amusing.

Which is bullshit, because he can RP the pants off of people like yourself.

Celtayoshi will not stray towards either side for the moment, but will keep the situation under review

Junior Minister of Foreign Affairs

[OOC: I'm sure there are a lot of countries that AMF has no relations with anyway, so economic sanctions would have nothing more than a symbolic effect. If you impose a blockade, that's an act of war.]

OOC: Furthermore, if a blockade were recognized...WA would shut off access from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea (the Dardanelles) and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea (Suez) to Blockading nations. Additionally, WA has forces in the Panama Canal Zone that would enforce a blockade there against the Blockading nations...just as a few first steps in the process (Access to the entire Persian Gulf from the sea as well as through the north (Turkey and Iran) would be shut off as well, a blockade near the southern tip of Africa would also be enforced and WA forces controlling access to Gibraltar would also interfere). There's a lot more trade that your group could lose in this process...if it were to be recognized.

OOC: Furthermore, if a blockade were recognized...WA would shut off access from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea (the Dardanelles) and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea (Suez) to Blockading nations. Additionally, WA has forces in the Panama Canal Zone that would enforce a blockade there against the Blockading nations...just as a few first steps in the process (Access to the entire Persian Gulf from the sea as well as through the north (Turkey and Iran) would be shut off as well, a blockade near the southern tip of Africa would also be enforced and WA forces controlling access to Gibraltar would also interfere). There's a lot more trade that your group could lose in this process...if it were to be recognized.


A blockade would lead to a World War, there is no doubt in my opinion, the blockade and resulting counter blockade would cause immense tension which would have to be defused quickly to avert any war.

Embrelion Mountain does not currently have relations with this "AutoMagFreek", a nation whose name curdles the tongue as surely as it curdles our souls to pronounce it.

As Embrelion Mountain has no relations with AutoMag, an imposition of trade embargos seems rather silly. Still, as the economic power for our region, we cannot ignore the embargo imposed by our neighbor, Technocracia.

Embrelion Mountain is willing to participate in this embargo provided Technocracia loosens their closed border policy with us and allows free trade between our nations once again, as well as issuing an official apology for the assassination of our dukes.

In the meantime, our magic corps, as well as the Troll mercenaries and conscripts of the northern duchies stand ready to be hired out to any nation that would desire their services for a more escalated argument.

OOC: I don't want to hear ANY whining about my dragons and mages.

OOC:*none* because we assume they fight with magic as subistitute for technology and so fight with equivalent, if not simular effect.

Technically we are the economic power of our region, but its up to the other nations what they do. My region is about freely running our nations and helping each other do so.

OOC: We tend to be meddlers in Embrelion Mountain, part of the M.O. for this nation is that their national god feels humans are incapable of governing themselves, so he tends to get involved in affairs which he perhaps shouldn't. He's trying to get over this, but it's hard to overcome a racism that's become ingrained over many, many millenia