Plans for a newer, bigger and more moderner middle east
Estados Unidos Mexican
01-08-2004, 04:47
Thousands of EUM Soldiers etc have massed in the persian gulf supported by atleast 500 naval vessels are ready to strike all military forces in the middle east to create a bigger and more moderner contienent with a western influence. Any one intrested in helping???
Estados Unidos Mexican
01-08-2004, 04:50
The EUM has said that there are 100,000 soldeirs in the area with more to come
Estados Unidos Mexican
01-08-2004, 04:51
The government is set to talk peacefull talks in the overtaking of the middle east
Chellis does not believe that a nation that believes moderner is a word in modern english should take a position of modernization in a region.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 04:56
As long as i can have a land grab. I'll donate 1,000,000 troops.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 04:57
Doomduckistan expects Estados Unidos Mexican to be forcibly removed after some NS middle eastern nations get wind of this...
Agrigento
01-08-2004, 04:58
The Republic of Agrigento must agree full-heartedly with Chellis in all aspects, except the spelling of Modernization
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 04:59
Doomduckistan expects Estados Unidos Mexican to be forcibly removed after some NS middle eastern nations get wind of this...
I'm not "in" anythin. I just said, if this will be tolerated, i'd possibly be willing to send in 1,000,000 troops to have a land grab.
The Republic of Agrigento must agree full-heartedly with Chellis in all aspects, except the spelling of Modernization
whats wrong with our spelling of modernization?
Though since our nations first language is Chellian, with english only being third, anything spelt wrong isnt our fault ^_^
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 05:01
whats wrong with our spelling of modernization?
Though since our nations first language is Chellian, with english only being third, anything spelt wrong isnt our fault ^_^
Creative ;)
As a member of the Middle East region the Empire denounces such action. It shall meet this new threat with its full military might. Prepare to meet your doom.
Lord of the Foreign Ministry,
Lawerence, Duke of Hollistein
OOC: In otherwords...you shall meet the following counter assualt.
Semi IC list:
The Newtdom Home Guard Fleet (1/5 my navy)
1,000 Various Warships, 250 Various support ships
The First Fleet
200 Various Warships, 25 various support craft
The Fourth Coast Guard, Western Division
400 Various Warships
The 192nd Figher Airwing
The 181st Fighter Airwing
The 95th Bomber Airwing
The 92nd Bomber Airwing
The First Corp
100,000 Marines
The Second Corp
100,000 Marines
The 1st Infantry
1,000,000 Highly Trained Infantry, designed to protect the nation.
The 82nd Airborne Division
10,000 Paracute/Aircavalry
The 101st Airborne Division
12,000 Parachute/Aircavalry
The 7th Royal Cavalry
1,500 Abrams
250 Devastator MBT-N
400 Devastator MBT-W
150 Bradley Fighting Vechiles
600 Pirannaha APC's
10,000 Infantry
General incharge: Field Marshall Christopher, Earl Wolfe. Lord of the Armies
Admiral incharge: Rear-Admiral George, Duke of Clancey, Lord of the Navies
The 7th Royal Cavalry
1,500 Abrams
250 Devastator MBT-N
400 Devastator MBT-W
150 Bradley Fighting Vechiles
600 Pirannaha APC's
10,000 Infantry
You do realize most militaries only have 10-20% of the people in a division actually fighting? And that most divisions arent bigger than 20k people?
That many armoured vehicles would take at least 10,000 people to man, and plus 10k infantry... Are you trying to field really badly supported divisions, or divisions in the hundreds of thousands of men? Neither being plausible...
IDF forces are mobilizing to crush your invasion of the ME and Israel.
We will give you 30 minutes to withdraw or face our wrath
OOC: Thats the beauty of it, its not a division. My Cavalry is in essence its own fighting force. From that total number, it is broken down into smaller numbers and the sort. Anyway, that was just a brief overview of what I would be dispatching. I give it the generic term 7th Cavalry, as I have three exact same Cavalry Armies if you will.
OOC: Thats the beauty of it, its not a division. My Cavalry is in essence its own fighting force. From that total number, it is broken down into smaller numbers and the sort. Anyway, that was just a brief overview of what I would be dispatching. I give it the generic term 7th Cavalry, as I have three exact same Cavalry Armies if you will.
So how many people total are in this cavalry?
OOC: Over all approx 300,000. Then add support and your at 800,000. To be dispatched over a wide area of ground. Then there are my tactics which call upon large numbers to flank, counter flank, and feint with cavalry. So in the end, what looks like a ludacris number works out flawlessly in battle. Never the less, I will admit it is over kill in this situation. But why not, never easier to show some muscle than against some idiot who attacks an entire region.
Agrigento
01-08-2004, 05:31
whats wrong with our spelling of modernization?
Though since our nations first language is Chellian, with english only being third, anything spelt wrong isnt our fault ^_^
Hehe, nothing was really wrong, it was more a matter of English (UK) vs. English (US). In the Queen's English, as some say, it is acceptable, if not correct, to spell it with an S, I believe...
I was simply teasing, and I assumed you were a UKer or a Commonwealther.
The IDF Battleships USS MIKE DITKA and USS MAGGLIO ORDONEZ of the Guillen class Dreadnought and their battlegroups are near the mouth of the Persian Gulf, they both soon opened fire with their 18 30 inch guns with a 400 mile range. They would rain down these lethal shells in a volley every 30 seconds until the EUM forces pulled back, the large guns would bring down any ship of the EUM navy. They then each fired 150 TASM IIIs stored in their VLS tubes, the reloadable ones, they reloaded and would wait for EUM to decide what to do before firing again, but the guns would continue to fire even if the missiles wouldn't
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 05:41
We could level ME, but we withdrawl out of humanity. We didn't expect any resistance.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 06:06
Sigh.
We told you this would happen. In accordance with our alliance with IDF, Doomduckistan will provide support for IDF if needed.
Though it is unexpected after retaliation, EUM may continue its plans of domination over the middle east. If this is the case, we will have no choice but to take military steps in response.
Though in most cases Doomduckistan would seek a diplomatic solution, the situtation at hand hs no solution besides Estados Unidos Mexican backing down.
The Parthians
01-08-2004, 06:09
Stay out of Parthian territories and I won't destroy you. Check the Earth II thread for more information.
Tyrandis
01-08-2004, 06:14
Official Tyrandis Response:
Great. Another n00b nation with dreams of global domination.
Whoever chooses to obliterate the moron, send us pics.
http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/images/char-tifa.jpg
Director Valerie Fenton
Director of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 06:16
NWV also declares support for IDF in this situation. However - having just 2 Carrier Groups available at this current time means it is going to be difficult - but we still have the bases on Cyprus that provide quick passage to the Middle East I suppose.
Both Carrier Groups of the 3rd Fleet have left for The Gulf, each contains.
-1 Elessar Class SuperCarrier
* 30 F/A-18 Super Hornets.
* 35 F-35 JSF's (VTOL).
* 10 A-X Alexanders.
* 10 F-14A/B/D Tomcat's.
* 5 A-12 Avengers.
* 1 E-2C Hawkeye.
* 4 EA-34C's.
* 5 RA-5C Vigilantes.
-4 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers.
-3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers.
-2 General Purpose Gunboats.
-2 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates (50 Tactical Tomahawks and 50 TLAMS on each).
-2 Virginia Class Future Attack Submarine.
-2 Trident II Class Ballistic Missile Submarines (30 Tactical Tomahawks and 25 TLAMS on each).
-1 Inchon Class Command Minesweeper.
-1 Command Ship.
-1 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship.
Part of 2 Bombing Wings are heading to points designated near Kuwait City, and land bordering The Gulf In Iran. Intelligence will be gradually updated to them as they near the area.
- 50 B1B's.
- 50 Tu-160's.
- 5 B2's.
- 5 B52's.
They will attack if IDF wishes us to engage them. Ground Forces will also be prepared if IDF wishes to engage them in thier suspected land positions.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 06:19
If EUM does not desist in its plans of domination of otehr countries in the middle east at the first opportunity, Doomduckistan will also mobilize to defend the area.
However, we will not counter-invade the EUM. Naturally, based upon the track records of Parthia and IDF as far as we've seen (OOC- no offense meant there), it'll be a rather large glowing crater before the first LCAC lands. Such a landing would be rather detrimental to us.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 06:21
Naturally, bsed upon the track records of Parthia and IDF as far as we've seen (OOC- no offense meant there), it'll be a rather large glowing crater before the first LCAC lands.
OOC: Its like a curse :D
IDF has not used nukes in these situations, I'm using conventional limited bombardment of ships to send a message, oh, we need EUM to post losses to his 500 ships and tell us deaths and ships killed, this is the 1st true test of the Guillen BDN.
The North Krindel
01-08-2004, 06:41
why don't you leave the middle east alone? maybe they don't want to be modernized. we americans are so ignorant of other cultures...
people like you make me believe in terrorism.
My Israel is very modernized (as is RL Israel)
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 06:43
To tell everyone the truth, i only wanted Tukey. It's not in the mE, but it exists in NS as stated in other threads. I'll torture the government to no end and change it to Constanople to be frank about it.
why don't you leave the middle east alone? maybe they don't want to be modernized. we americans are so ignorant of other cultures...
people like you make me believe in terrorism.
OOC: This guy isn't American, he's Mexican
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 06:50
why don't you leave the middle east alone? maybe they don't want to be modernized. we americans are so ignorant of other cultures...
people like you make me believe in terrorism.
I don't want to "modernize" anything. It was just a land grab idea. Nothing personal. You'd be living by the roman doctrine. We are almost completely like rome was itself 1500 years ago. But we did alot to asure that it won't fall to a bunch of anglo barbarians. That means every land we have is roman, we haven't conquested any land. But if say i did, it wouldn't be roman, it'd be my first foreign conquest. That means that they abide by occupation law. Not go to the IIRRAAQQII provinces, visit Roma and travel as they choose to. They are an occupied people. I will follow international law, of course. I will stick a governor in there, take command, create a militia there that will construct of it's own people, backed up by 1,000 to 1 roman hold so that they can't turn on us. Say if they have 1,000 personel, i will be behind them with a 1,000,000 Romans.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 06:59
Regardless of your plan for what would happen in your occupation, any IIRRAQQII or EUM incursions into Middle Eastern Territory (OOC- barring now, as EUM will have to see this thread to move his troops and ship out) will be considered a violation of international sovereignty.
Though violations of international sovereignty are no big deal to us (we've done it twice by now, it's how war goes), we have some allies in the Middle East. and that presents a mess. The catch is EUM invading the entire Middle East, Doomduckistan having friends (namely Parthia and IDF, who control much of the middle east [OOC- in Earth II If I remember correctly]) there. As a military ally of EUM, we'd have to consider you a co-conspirator and that would get long and bloody, since our nations are almost similar in size.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:09
I have 10 thermonuclear bombs. And i have plenty of ICBM's to carry the nuclear attack and IRBM's to carry the IG Virus. Don't mess with us. Besides that, we have two other provinces in my country (RL Accounts) that are giants. Do you really want to invade my soverign nation?
I forgot to mention that i have a few Silo's around the country to carry out the defense within 5 seconds of our leaders orders.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:10
I could also say that i can put everyone on alert for an invasion. Which is around 100,000,000 personel in all.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 07:12
Who said I wanted to invade your sovereign area? I am simply stating, if you attack Turkey or any other middle eastern area with support from EUM (OOC- otherwise it goes in a different thread and I could care less unless it infringes upon my allies) we will be forced into action.
[OOC- And most nations don't recognize multiple puppets as a valid tactic.]
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:12
I thought i seen a threat of invasion because of a few words to you. I thought of liberation, but since i seen that i'd have to fight, i took back my words. That was all my little friend.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:12
Who said I wanted to invade your sovereign area? I am simply stating, if you attack Turkey or any other middle eastern area with support from EUM (OOC- otherwise it goes in a different thread and I could care less unless it infringes upon my allies) we will be forced to repel you.
Turkey is in Europe.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 07:14
Turkey is in Europe.
I consider it part of the middle east, besides that little piece over by greece. Anyhow, that is irrelevant. If you are not going to invade with the support of EUM, and you are not going to infringe upon Parthian or IDF terrirtory (whom I am 99% sure are not currently in control of Turkey), I could care less.
I thought i seen a threat of invasion because of a few words to you. I thought of liberation, but since i seen that i'd have to fight, i took back my words. That was all my little friend.
I take it this means you are not going to be pursuing miiltary action over the control of turkey. If so, we have no business arguing- even if you were, as long as you aren't assisted by/assisting EUM (whom is attacking my allies at the moment until further notice), it's fine by me.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:15
Who runs Turkey anyway? I'm just curious.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:17
I have no reason to try to attack your territories. We haven't had any problems in the past...I just try not to mess with alliances unless i have a real problem.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 07:19
Who runs Turkey anyway? I'm just curious.
Earth I- Western Asia (2.967 Billion Pop)
Earth II- European Turkey was claimed by Sevaris, but later freed (OOC- turned down), so as far as I know all of it is free. However, it is likely someone has claimed it and the main post hasn't updated yet...
and probably several smaller nations who don't RP as much (think of how many people claim parts of the US or Europe while only a few in the RL Nation Claims and Earth II threads get them)
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:20
What about Libya? Do you own it?
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:22
I'd never go after a country that big unless i knew that i could very well flee from my own country. Especially that i figure it has alliances also.
Warhammer Syndicate
01-08-2004, 07:32
why don't you leave the middle east alone? maybe they don't want to be modernized. we americans are so ignorant of other cultures...
people like you make me believe in terrorism.
Just keep on thinking that guy, it's not going to get you anywhere. Your the one being ignorant of our ignorant culture.
Doomduckistan
01-08-2004, 07:33
What about Libya? Do you own it?
Earth I- ???
Earth II- Communist Missisippi (1.185 Billion pop)
Okay, now time to drive back into IC...
IC-
"What is the update?" asked Emperor Moises J. Munivez, pacing his office. War always made him nervous, despite his bout in the Navy. Recently, a threatened incursion into the Middle East was sparking a diplomatic crisis- IDF battleships had already fired off shots before any negotiation, and his country nearly went to war with another for no reason at all. Each of these was a stressful experience in itself, but the happening of them within the same day was an overload on his thoughts.
"Same news. IIRRAAQQII isn't invading Turkey, though- intelligence was wrong. Still waiting for anything. By the time something happens, IDF is likely to go to war, sir." said his aide who he had personally appointed to keep him updated.
"Is that so? In that case, do what we always do- prepare the 1st Carrier Assault Fleet and the 1st Carrier Fleet, but don't send them off. And tell the High Staff to get however many troops and aircraft is needed to hold off an invasion from a small country online- this could very well either flare up or die down before we can respond, and I don't want our allies to get attack while we're sleeping at the post."
Warhammer Syndicate
01-08-2004, 07:37
I would love to invade the Middle East, however, it is not wise to do so at this time. I would like nothing more than to see Syria, Jordan, and Iran fall to the ground. I'm going to call a meeting of all my allies on what course of action to take in this matter. I shall remind you that nothing will take place until further notice.
IIRRAAQQII
01-08-2004, 07:44
Emperor Marzullo made a few comments to IN (IIRRAAQQII NEWS) as he left his presidential palace on a visit to the IIRRAAQQII port city of Trieste. He commented on a speculated invasion of Turkey with, "No, you got it wrong, CM rules Libya and is also my friend, why would i invade his neighbor?". Emperor Marzullo then stormed out of the building with his elite IIRRAAQQII Guards escorting him to his presidential limo.
What about Libya? Do you own it?
I own it. Well, hostilities arent technically over, but I own it.
Whittier-
01-08-2004, 09:20
Whittier advises its ally, EUM, against invading the middle east, as our other ally, IDF has the situation there, well under control.