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Opportunity: Uranium Mining!

Steel Island
31-07-2004, 11:04
Uranium Mining!

The Armed Republic of Steel Island has confirmed the preliminary tests that indicated the existence of uranium in an outer island. The island, nicknamed Uranium Isle, is located on the outer reaches of our archipelago. As soon as the tests were confirmed a military base was set up on the isle and formidable defences have been installed to protect against the threat of invasion. However, we do not posess the capabilities to obtain the uranium, and even if we did, we do not have the facilities to make any use of it.
After much deliberation we have decided to allow a foreign nation to mine it. Hopefully an arrangement will be possible. Once the uranium has been obtained by the foreign nation, they will be permitted to make any use of it. As long as they do it outside our borders.

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These are the only terms we will accept:
No foreign troops will be permitted to come inside our borders, or within five hundred kilometers, unless we give our permission.

We will control all means of entry and exit to and from Uranium Isle.

All personell of the foreign nation will be subjected to frequent security checks and random searches.

All mines and installations will be heavily guarded and monitered by advanced security systems.

Any foreign personell may be detained without notice.

No foreign activity on Uranium Isle will take place without our permission. All actions that are required to take place will not happen until we are completely satisfied with proceedings.

We will have a policy of zero tolerance. Any attempts to avoid the above terms will result in immediate execution, and possible further action if required.

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The right to mine Uranium Isle will come at a great cost. The right will go to the bid that we deem will give us the most benifit. We will accept such offers as weapons of all types, bullets (our national currency), pledges for military support when we require it, slaves, and possibly territory that will come under our command. All offers are to be made directly to The Armed Republic of Steel Island.
Cam III
31-07-2004, 11:45
Cam III is willing to take you up on this offer and is willing to give military support when you require it. Please consider us.
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Camewot
31-07-2004, 11:47
Please not considder Cam III, he has no money anymore since he has been destroyed and had to flee to an other planet.
Cam III
31-07-2004, 11:51
OOC: Umm, Camewot, gat your f**king facts right. Thats my home planet. And yes I have money. So shut up.

IC: Please ignore that fool, he is just jealus I got to here before him.
Camewot
31-07-2004, 11:54
Then may I say that Cam III will only use the Uranium for offensive actions, you sure dont want that to happen.
It will get you a very bad name..
Santo Nunca
31-07-2004, 12:11
I buy your Mines.
Say your price that I will pay.
Cam III
31-07-2004, 12:22
[QUOTE=Steel Island]. Once the uranium has been obtained by the foreign nation, they will be permitted to make any use of it. As long as they do it outside our borders.[/QUOTE=Steel Island]

I can do whatever I please!
Steel Island
31-07-2004, 12:37
The right to mine Uranium Isle will come at a great cost. The right will go to the bid that we deem will give us the most benifit.
If we decide that your uses will bring more harm than good to our nation, you will not be permitted to mine. It is a very delicate situation.

Thankyou for your offers. You will all be kept in mind when the time comes for the ultimate decision.

General Ricardo Powers of The Armed Republic of Steel Island
Red Tide2
31-07-2004, 19:32
MESSAGE! MESSAGE!
PRIORITY Z
From Tech-Com Corporation
To Steel Island
We are willing too purchase mining rights too Uranium Island. In return we offer too split the resulting profits 50/50.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
31-07-2004, 19:34
Uranium Mining!

The Armed Republic of Steel Island has confirmed the preliminary tests that indicated the existence of uranium in an outer island. The island, nicknamed Uranium Isle, is located on the outer reaches of our archipelago. As soon as the tests were confirmed a military base was set up on the isle and formidable defences have been installed to protect against the threat of invasion. However, we do not posess the capabilities to obtain the uranium, and even if we did, we do not have the facilities to make any use of it.
After much deliberation we have decided to allow a foreign nation to mine it. Hopefully an arrangement will be possible. Once the uranium has been obtained by the foreign nation, they will be permitted to make any use of it. As long as they do it outside our borders.

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These are the only terms we will accept:
No foreign troops will be permitted to come inside our borders, or within five hundred kilometers, unless we give our permission.

We will control all means of entry and exit to and from Uranium Isle.

All personell of the foreign nation will be subjected to frequent security checks and random searches.

All mines and installations will be heavily guarded and monitered by advanced security systems.

Any foreign personell may be detained without notice.

No foreign activity on Uranium Isle will take place without our permission. All actions that are required to take place will not happen until we are completely satisfied with proceedings.

We will have a policy of zero tolerance. Any attempts to avoid the above terms will result in immediate execution, and possible further action if required.

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The right to mine Uranium Isle will come at a great cost. The right will go to the bid that we deem will give us the most benifit. We will accept such offers as weapons of all types, bullets (our national currency), pledges for military support when we require it, slaves, and possibly territory that will come under our command. All offers are to be made directly to The Armed Republic of Steel Island.

If you would allow us to mine, we would ally ourselves to you, and give you three of our Terracoste battlecraft, custom armed and painted to your specifications.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
31-07-2004, 19:36
OOC: Note that you're getting this from a 3 billion pop nation.
The Wickit Klownz
31-07-2004, 19:41
If you people want uranium that bad, my govt has over 10 tons or so that we dug up while looking for gems...
Jangle Jangle Ridge
31-07-2004, 19:43
If you people want uranium that bad, my govt has over 10 tons or so that we dug up while looking for gems...
OOC: Yes, but I have evil plans. And I love evil plans.
The Wickit Klownz
31-07-2004, 19:45
If you would allow us to mine, we would ally ourselves to you
JJR, don't make small allies you will have to protect when the time comes that they (might) piss off a lot of large nations. I learned that lesson a while ago... *shudders*
Takatori
31-07-2004, 20:14
The Armed Republic of Steel Island's bid for militarized Uranium under fire.

Authorized Release

Kitatorikyo, August 1 -- A spokesman for the Takatori Association for Natural Resource Studies released a statement Friday accusing the Steel Island ruling forces of pulling up Takatori over what they called "Uranium Isle" in a bid to blatantly increase their military domination in clear opposition to Takatori's natural and peaceful facing to the issue of weapons proliferation in respect to recent proffering of mining concessions for Uranium natively found in our own soil.

Referring to the fact that the Steel Island authorities took great care to belabor the point that the achieving of great military power as they describe their desire for "weapons of all types, bullets" from a third country, and right after the action the Takatori Ministry Natural Resource came out with a plan to promote peaceful usages for Uranium, and after the joining by Takatori to internationalized agreements for reduction of hostilities, the people of Takatori issue this statement:

Steel Island's promotion of the vexing international condition of military build-up and posturing is a wanton challenge peace, an open negation of the system in Takatori and an unpardonable anti-national criminal move to drive the cross-regional relations to an unpredictable worst phase.
The issue of "security checks and random searches" much touted by the Steel Island ruling and right-wing conservative forces is an baldfaced example and declaration of their misanthropic designs for world domination and intend to tarnish the international authority and prestige of the dignified Takatori people and destabilize its system to intents and purposes.
The Steel Island "government", will be finding it impossible to stifle Takatori with such physical means as military threat, blackmail, economic sanctions and blockade, will expended a lot of money and goods for such a mean operation as promoting the disgusting use of weaponty against the peaceful people of the world.
The clear abrogation of generally accepted human decency and love of peace engendered from birth in all peoples of the world, will be found by their last generations to be the principle cause of their failure in the community of decency.
It is important for our compatriots in the North Pacific and overseas to pool their efforts to conduct a powerful campaign for rejecting the pro-weapon and anti-human rights stance of Steel Island.
The Steel Island authorities should squarely look at the trend of the time, abolish their designs on military domination, an evil law of the old era, and unconditionally declare the use of Uranium to be of peaceful intentions and results only, and to merge their voice with the mass of nations calling for permanent and eternal victory through peace.

Takatori hereby renews emphatic pledges to promote usage of its own Uranium purely for its own defensive purposes, and with a spirit of fraternal cooperation to those nations exemplifying corresponding virtues, we rededicate the Uranium Mining Concession previously put forth, original press release of which is linked below.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344316
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 00:04
JJR, don't make small allies you will have to protect when the time comes that they (might) piss off a lot of large nations. I learned that lesson a while ago... *shudders*
Hmm, good point. Why don't I just shoot at him until he hands over the mine? That's a lot more fun than pretending to ally him then pulling out once I've sucked the mine dry. So how about it Steel Islands? War or mines? I prefer war, but mines work too.
Steel Island
01-08-2004, 00:53
To: Jangle Jangle Ridge
From: General Ricardo Powers of The Armed Republic of Steel Island

We have dismissed you from our considerations. The right to mine Uranium Isle will not go to you. Your threats will achieve nothing.

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The Department of Foreign Affairs on Steel Island has released the following statement in response to Takatori's statement.

The Armed Republic of Steel Island has no intentions of exerting military pressure outside of its own borders. However, we do seek to build up our defence capabilities out of pure necessity. Uranium Isle has already attracted much international attention, and not all of this attention is entirely welcome. It is inevitable that the threat of war will come upon our nation. We seek to be fully prepared for such an occurance. We do not wish to own weapons of mass destruction. We do, however, wish to be able to protect our people against such things. We place the security of our people above everything else.

The issue of "security checks and random searches" is to defend our nation against treachery. Uranium is a powerful substance, and many nations will do anything to get it. We do wish to be on good terms with the nation who is given the right to mine. They will surely see the necessity for such precautions.

The General himself condemns Takatori's statement as unwarranted and misinformed. However, he does not want hostilities.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:02
The Emperor of Layarteb has authorized the following deal.

We wish to mine your uranium as it is a fine source of power for our many nuclear powerplants and it is needed desparately. In addition to paying you whatever cost you incur, we will allow some of your own workers to assist in our mining to help take out any unemployment you might have. Futhermore, if we are mining the area, it is under the protection of the Empire of Layarteb and any action against your homeland or it will not be tolerated and be met with a response from the Layartebian military. Lastly, we will gladly assist you in any ventures you need help with as we have a massive surplus in our defense budget (in excess of $4T) and we need to do something with it.

Thank You
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:08
To: Jangle Jangle Ridge
From: General Ricardo Powers of The Armed Republic of Steel Island

We have dismissed you from our considerations. The right to mine Uranium Isle will not go to you. Your threats will achieve nothing.

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The Department of Foreign Affairs on Steel Island has released the following statement in response to Takatori's statement.

The Armed Republic of Steel Island has no intentions of exerting military pressure outside of its own borders. However, we do seek to build up our defence capabilities out of pure necessity. Uranium Isle has already attracted much international attention, and not all of this attention is entirely welcome. It is inevitable that the threat of war will come upon our nation. We seek to be fully prepared for such an occurance. We do not wish to own weapons of mass destruction. We do, however, wish to be able to protect our people against such things. We place the security of our people above everything else.

The issue of "security checks and random searches" is to defend our nation against treachery. Uranium is a powerful substance, and many nations will do anything to get it. We do wish to be on good terms with the nation who is given the right to mine. They will surely see the necessity for such precautions.

The General himself condemns Takatori's statement as unwarranted and misinformed. However, he does not want hostilities.

So, war instead of mines? Well then, I think you'll be pleased to know we have at least one sattelite over your nation at all times, and at most times, two or three. If you do not grant us unlimited permission to mine from these facilities, you will find the mines the target of a Five megaton nuclear missile. Nuclear explosions in uranium mines are NEVER good things, my friend. So what do you say now?
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:10
So, war instead of mines? Well then, I think you'll be pleased to know we have at least one sattelite over your nation at all times, and at most times, two or three. If you do not grant us unlimited permission to mine from these facilities, you will find the mines the target of a Five megaton nuclear missile. Nuclear explosions in uranium mines are NEVER good things, my friend. So what do you say now?

Any use of nuclear weapons against him will result in a full retaliation from the Empire of Layarteb and I can assure you that 5 mT is weak compared to what I will gladly launch and drop on you. Such actions are puny and horrible for such a big nation like you to be pushing around a new, small nation.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:18
Any use of nuclear weapons against him will result in a full retaliation from the Empire of Layarteb and I can assure you that 5 mT is weak compared to what I will gladly launch and drop on you. Such actions are puny and horrible for such a big nation like you to be pushing around a new, small nation.

Yes, but do you have anything like what I'm willing to bear down on you? No, you don't. I have a larger and more technologically-advanced army than you do. You would be crushed like an ant in a trash compactor.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:20
Yes, but do you have anything like what I'm willing to bear down on you? No, you don't. I have a larger and more technologically-advanced army than you do. You would be crushed like an ant in a trash compactor.

My military is not second-rate and I will gladly bear down plenty of nuclear missiles that your technologically advanced army will be reduced to vapor. Either way, I'm going to obliterate you and you are going to obliterate you.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:23
My military is not second-rate and I will gladly bear down plenty of nuclear missiles that your technologically advanced army will be reduced to vapor. Either way, I'm going to obliterate you and you are going to obliterate you.
So you're saying that with an army that's half the size of mine, you'll defeat me. Cute. Real cute.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:23
Layarteb, he has you outclassed in ALL areas of Armed Forces, don't mess with him. He has more than 600 Million people in his Armed Forces. He also has 17,501,081,965,420.70 USD (seeing as how one uranium nugget=1.8208 USD) for a defense budget.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:24
So you're saying that with an army that's half the size of mine, you'll defeat me. Cute. Real cute.

Let's look at the Cold War principle that is just common sense.

You may have 10,000 tanks to every one of mine, 10M people to every one of mine. But when a 50 mT bomb falls into that force they go poof.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:26
DUMBASS ALERT

There's something called satellite defenses to take out nukes before they even get halfway to target. Good Job on remembering them.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:27
DUMBASS ALERT

There's something called satellite defenses to take out nukes before they even get halfway to target. Good Job on remembering them.

:: sigh ::

JERK ALERT

Yes, because I don't have any either. That's right, when I built my military I completely avoided thinking about defenses against nuclear missiles.
DontPissUsOff
01-08-2004, 01:28
With all respect he'd have to have a lot of satellites and a helluva lot of power for them. Especially after the boost phase of the missiles.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:29
Well, just because when you were building your military, you were ignorant, that does not mean others were.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:30
Well, just because when you were building your military, you were ignorant, that does not mean others were.

Are you done yet?
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:32
With all respect he'd have to have a lot of satellites and a helluva lot of power for them. Especially after the boost phase of the missiles.

It would take one shot from an Orbital rail gun to take out a nuclear missile.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:32
Let's look at the Cold War principle that is just common sense.

You may have 10,000 tanks to every one of mine, 10M people to every one of mine. But when a 50 mT bomb falls into that force they go poof.
I understand that. That's why I had to specially load the sattelite with a 5 MT bomb. They usually hold ten of the 50mts. Don't screw with me. I have better anti-missile defense than you do. Better technology then you do. Likely, better ALLIES than you. Run along now little kiddy.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:33
Are you done yet?
depends on rather or not you provide more evidence of your ignorance.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:33
I understand that. That's why I had to specially load the sattelite with a 5 MT bomb. They usually hold ten of the 50mts. Don't screw with me. I have better anti-missile defense than you do. Better technology then you do. Likely, better ALLIES than you. Run along now little kiddy.

This is me running...
DontPissUsOff
01-08-2004, 01:34
OK, to how many missiles are there to deal with? Think about it. The system has to decide that it's a valid target, lock onto it, track it, open fire on it, actually hit it, correct fire...and if there are something like 20,000 ICBMs heading for you that takes a long long time. And that's without considering submarine-launched missiles performing dropshots, or FOBS units, or ALCMs like the AS-15 carrying nuclear warheads.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:35
This is me running...

You try and scare me with one little missile, and you laugh and mock my forces when I point out how much more of the same things I have.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:35
OK, to how many missiles are there to deal with? Think about it. The system has to decide that it's a valid target, lock onto it, track it, open fire on it, actually hit it, correct fire...and if there are something like 20,000 ICBMs heading for you that takes a long long time. And that's without considering submarine-launched missiles performing dropshots, or FOBS units, or ALCMs like the AS-15 carrying nuclear warheads.

Precisely but you know how the steroid freaks are, they build one railgun and one satellite and it's 100% effective.
Tahar Joblis
01-08-2004, 01:35
Tahar Joblis highly disapproves of this threatened nuclear war between Layarteb and Jingle Jangle Ridge. Be warned that we will not tolerate such, and strongly encourage Jingle Jangle Ridge to discard all intentions of forcibly annexing Uranium Island.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:37
You try and scare me with one little missile, and you laugh and mock my forces when I point out how much more of the same things I have.

Yes because you are an angel.

Steel have fun with the meatheads. I advise you to ignore whatever they throw at you and just laugh at them the whole way to the bank. Before this turns into 10 pages of he said, she said, you're a wuss, you're a loser between the knuckleheads and I and we all get banned and deleted.
Autonomous City-states
01-08-2004, 01:39
OOC: Are you children done with the dick-measuring contest yet? Get on with the RP... if you can.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:39
Tahar Joblis highly disapproves of this threatened nuclear war between Layarteb and Jingle Jangle Ridge. Be warned that we will not tolerate such, and strongly encourage Jingle Jangle Ridge to discard all intentions of forcibly annexing Uranium Island.
He's not annexing, he's trying to get full mining rights to get the uranium.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:39
Yes because you are an angel.

Steel have fun with the meatheads. I advise you to ignore whatever they throw at you and just laugh at them the whole way to the bank.

Wow. Now that's some good RP right there. "You're an angel! Ignore him..."
I need to nominate you on Butterfly's thread. Amazing.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:40
Wow. Now that's some good RP right there. "You're an angel! Ignore him..."
I need to nominate on Butterfly's thread. Amazing.

I highly doubt that you're going to RP anything considerable so you're damn straight I'm advising him to ignore you. And since this "p******-match" began there wasn't one bit of RP'ing going on. Hell this has all been OOC bi****** and yelling.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 01:41
...hahahaha, nice one JJR
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:42
OOC: Are you children done with the dick-measuring contest yet? Get on with the RP... if you can.

OOC: Good point. Anyway, I'm just waiting for Steel to answer me. I want something to happen. It's not like I need the uranium anyway. I'm just stirred up stuff, annoy some people. Always fun.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:44
OOC: Are you children done with the dick-measuring contest yet? Get on with the RP... if you can.

Quite done. Thanks ACS.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:45
I highly doubt that you're going to RP anything considerable so you're damn straight I'm advising him to ignore you. And since this "p******-match" began there wasn't one bit of RP'ing going on. Hell this has all been OOC bi****** and yelling.

Oh, but this is all real. Poor man, he's insane. What is this ooc nonsense.

OOC: NOW it's OOC bull****. Idiot.
Layarteb
01-08-2004, 01:46
Oh, but this is all real. Poor man, he's insane. What is this ooc nonsense.

OOC: NOW it's OOC bull****. Idiot.

You honestly call all of that RP'ing? WOW!
Hogsweat
01-08-2004, 01:47
Why don't you just get on with it and stop bitching?
TJHairball
01-08-2004, 01:50
Very officially speaking:

Knock off the OOC chatter and the flamage. I will be watching.

(Thread will reopen in a few minutes.)
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 01:59
Steel Island, we still await your answer as to our... proposition, so to speak.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 02:02
Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Nineteenth Day / 2342.232.12.3145 CEOD

Seeing this purely as a business opportunity, we of the ICRC are willing to offer quite a lot for the rights to mine this island. First, we shall address the economic benefits we may give, and then we shall address the mutual profit we can both gather from this.

Section I

A. We, the ICRC, are prepared to offer you an exclusive contract with the various corporations of Industrial Experiment in which the major decrease of all import tariffs would allow you to ship goods to Industrial Experiment for a drastically reduced cost. The burgeoning populace of Industrial Experiment, numbering nearly 1 billion peoples, is a market of rabid consumers who are all too willing to buy anything they have the purchase capital for. This contract will be subject to renewel after an ordained period of time.

B. Also, we are prepared to supply Industrialite workers as an outsourced workforce for you country. Our corporations will still maintain their salaries, and said corporations will also pay for any housing and other essentials required. Your government will not need to pay for anything that these workers will require. The number of workers will be determined upon further negotiations, and the duration of their stay will be determined upon the successful mining of Uranium Island. We of Industrial Experiment and its many successful corporations are proud to say that the workers we offer are of the highest quality.

C. Lastly, the nation of Chaos Experiment is quite prepared to offer greatly reduced prices for any tourists or vacationers that should chose to visit our great and beautiful nation. We also, trusting in your governments judgement, are willing to extend a less strict backround check when any peoples moving from your country, whether by force (deportation) or of their own will, should chose to come to Chaos Experiment. Chaos Experiment is also willing to completely abolish any applicable tariff for future imports from your nation. We retain a population comparable to Industrial Experiment, and assure you that our people are just as vorocious buyers as the Industrialites.

Section II

A. The Garous Mining Corporation of Industrial Experiment, which is the one that stands ready to mine the Uranium, has access to highly advanced enrichment devices and centrifuges. Not only are they capable of producing weapons-grade uranium, but they are also capable of producing reactor ready materials.

B. All uranium mined will be put on sale over the international market place, and we will be willing to give you a discount should you chose to buy any for your reactors at home, or any other use.

C. The Trusted Reserve Corporation is prepared to wire a large sum of money to your nation as additional compensation and thanks for protecting our workers while they mine. The exact amount may be determined upon further negotiation.

We of the ICRC await your decision, and thank you for this opportunity to show our goodwill towards your nation and its peoples as a whole.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 02:11
*in orbit, above the nation of Steel Island, a sattelite, more of a weapons platform, looms*

Within the sattelite, among the self running machinery, a click and a whirr start up, one that hadn't been there for quite a few years. If the other machines could talk, or in fact, think, they might be pleased to see it, for they don't see it often. But then, they can't, so why am I telling you this? Along the front of the sattelite, a small green LED began flashing. It had also been sorely missed. A panel flipped open, and round shapes flickered past the end, until one, smaller than the rest, slid forward, settled, and was caught in a set of clamps. Back on Earth, things were going well. Well as in, "Well, not really."
Tarenteor fiddled with a dial and looked back up at the screen, "Steel Islands, unless you respond, we will be forced to destroy your uranium mine. Now, we don't want to do that, because we plan to use said uranium. So, your ball again. Choose, and choose fast." With that, the screen shut off.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 02:18
Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Nineteenth Day / 2342.232.12.3145 CEOD

The ICRC would also like to note that any threat to the island previous to purchase of mining rights and from then forth shall be considered a breach of good business politics. Not only that, but any threat after the the granting of mining rights, should such rights be given, will be considered a direct threat to Garous Mining Corporation's holdings, and will prompt military action against any aggressors, along with an embargo and other, more subtle, attacks on the attacking nation's well-being.
Tahar Joblis
01-08-2004, 02:22
In space, nobody can hear you scream. Or laugh, or cry, or cock a gun.

"Jingle Jangle Ridge has upped the ante to clear threats of demolishing current structures on Uranium Isle. Recommend we go to condition Q on ASAT, red on TDAMS, and pay very close attention to anything belonging to Jingle Jangle Ridge."

"It will also be of no small benefit to have a fleet in the general vicinity. Just in case."

And it was so, and there was tenseness in [and above] the atmosphere. Nuclear war was an all too probable result of Jingle Jangle Ridge's possessive grab for fissile materials.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 02:24
Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Nineteenth Day / 2342.232.12.3145 CEOD

The ICRC would also like to note that any threat to the island previous to purchase of mining rights and from then forth shall be considered a breach of good business politics. Not only that, but any threat after the the granting of mining rights, should such rights be given, will be considered a direct threat to Garous Mining Corporation's holdings, and will prompt military action against any aggressors, along with an embargo and other, more subtle, attacks on the attacking nation's well-being.

We of JJR would also like to note that your attempts to take this mine are considered a direct threat to our target. Therefore, we must ask you to desist or suffer the consequences. We can easily hold your mines, nuclear strongholds and facilities at the same gunpoint.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 02:29
OOC: Sorry, quick, but important question. What tech period? 2000-2100? 5000-10000. I really don't know. Someone tell me.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 02:33
Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Twentieth Day / 2342.273.12.149 CEOD

The loosely vieled threat from the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge, though noted, is ridiculous. Our ties to the global economy are large enough that, should you chose to eliminate either one of the two nations participating in the ICRC, it would cause a global recession on a scale not seen for quite some time. It is a guarantee that the world-community as a whole will not look upon this with anything resembling favor, and is quite intelligent enough to see the reasons for it. Economic and military powerhouses throughout the world will not hesitate to obliterate your military, your command infrastructues, your power grids, your communication abilities, and quite a large portion of your population.

We would like to inform you that, in threatening the ICRC, you are risking a war with the rest of the world.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 02:37
Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Twentieth Day / 2342.273.12.149 CEOD

The loosely vieled threat from the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge, though noted, is ridiculous. Our ties to the global economy are large enough that, should you chose to eliminate either one of the two nations participating in the ICRC, it would cause a global recession on a scale not seen for quite some time. It is a guarantee that the world-community as a whole will not look upon this with anything resembling favor, and is quite intelligent enough to see the reasons for it. Economic and military powerhouses throughout the world will not hesitate to obliterate your military, your command infrastructues, your power grids, your communication abilities, and quite a large portion of your population.

We would like to inform you that, in threatening the ICRC, you are risking a war with the rest of the world.

I doubt that highly. Also, such a recession would hurt those who work with you. I know you not, so I must be avoiding your areas of business. So your allies will be hurt, I will not. I will thus be able to tear at them, one by one, while they regrow. Fairly simple.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 02:49
ooc: A person with six posts has large influence? I THINK NOT!

Any nations that attack JJR will also have to deal with me. I don't use nukes because I don't need them. My naval forces, while compared to some nations' navies are feeble, are quite formidable to quite a few nations far larger than mine. My use of tactics seen in The Art of War by the chinese strategist Sun Tzu can almost guarantee me victory against many nations.

for those of you who have never even read a summary of The Art of War: http://www.sonshi.com/learn.html
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 03:13
"Jangle Jangle Ridge is sad to be informed that the head of Steel Island, instead of answering, has simply went to sleep. Therefore, in a few moments, we will launch our attack. We will then procede to attack other targets as we deem them neccesary."

In the atmosphere, a 5mt ICBM streaks towards its target, but after it, another, 50mt ICBM follows, judging by the looks. However, looks can decieve. This missile is instead filled with a warhead split into three parts.In the tip is a small amount of napalm. Next is a small C-4 charge. The last piece is a foot thick layer of plutonium pebbles. Should either of the missiles be shot down, the missile will end up exploding, releasing napalm on the soldiers, and, much-worse, particle-spitting plutonium. If some of this were to fall into the mines, it would create the desired effect anyway. It would also force Steel to send in Hazmat teams. Let the fun begin.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 03:27
OoC: Hmph. People will always find a way to look down upon someone. I'll have you know I was quite active under my former name of Utopian Experiment a little less than a year ago. I stopped, but am now back with a new nation. Also, I am playing in-character with my nation when I talk of heavy ties to the global economy. I am a fairly old capitalist powerhouse, it stands to reason that I would be imbedded pretty deep in the economy of many nations.

George Nemishly stared longingly as the Osprey-II transport aircraft lifted off from the landing pad and soared off quickly through the blue skies. He didn't want to be here. Though he was a proffesional diplomat, everyone hates being thrown into a hopeless situation, and George considered this a hopeless situation. However, as an employee to the Good-Hands Diplomatic Corporation and official representative of the ICRC, he was obligated to fulfill his duty.

However, this didn't mean he wasn't still uneasy as heck. In a desperate attempt to calm himself, he set his suitcase down, and opened it. He slipped his hand inside, ruffled through a few sheefs of paper before coming up with the Official Notice that had brought him here.

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Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Twenty-Ninth Day / 2342.305.19.589 CEOD

We of the ICRC do not see the profit in a futile war with the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge, and would very much like to seek a more diplomatic solution. We propose a meeting between leaders of our three nations in an attempt to provide a peaceful resolution to this conflict. We will first address the location and time of the meeting, and then our hopes and offerings for a more lucrative relationship with the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge.

Section I

A. Our selected location, and we very much hope you agree with this, is the Tri-Province Lodge in the Yellow Mountains of Chaos Experiment. This Lodge is located on the zenith of three of Chaos Experiments largest provincial districts. It has a history of hosting many successful summits between the two nations of the ICRC that led to the very close, cooperative relationship we enjoy in these modern times. It was the place in which a major war between Chaos Experiment and Industrial Experiment was barely avoided in classical times through level-headed discussion, and eventually hosted the first central location for the ICRC before said central location was moved closer to the border with Industrial Experiment. It is quite comfortable and has all the needed facilities for any diplomatic team to live in great comfort.

B. Our selected time is fourteen global-time days after the arrival of this Notice, which should arrive only hours after sending. Transportation will be available to any representatives you should chose to send. We will have a diplomat waiting upon your arrival, and a full team there upon your acceptance of this proposed conference.

Section II

A. We hope to achieve a peaceful resolution to the current conflict between our nations, and perhaps even an alliance on future matters. We are prepared to make certain concessions in the interest of future prosperity of business between our three great nations.

B. We hope to find a solution to the problem with Uranium Island, preferably one that will benefit your nation, too.

End Notice

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George shivered in the cold air on the VTOL pad near the administrative buildings of the lodge facilities while he stuff the notice back into his suitcase and made his way towards the lodge building itself. He longed for the warm comfort of the meeting rooms, the auditorium, and of course, his own suite within. Glancing around for anyone watching, he picked up his pace and began a rather undignified run towards the lodge upon confirming no one was watching.

I hope the other diplomats get here soon, and I hope to hell that Jangle Jangle accepts the summit he thought to himself as he neared the lodge building.

OoC: If you do accept this conference, please note whether or not you wish me to create a new thread for it or not.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 03:32
ooc: I aint tryna look down on anybody, man. I'm not like Scandinavian states or Grenval, etc. I was just expressing my disbelief that your nation had much economical influence... I now see your point.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 03:42
OoC: Ok, sorry for implying you do then.
The Wickit Klownz
01-08-2004, 03:43
ooc: its ok, man.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 03:44
OoC: Hmph. People will always find a way to look down upon someone. I'll have you know I was quite active under my former name of Utopian Experiment a little less than a year ago. I stopped, but am now back with a new nation. Also, I am playing in-character with my nation when I talk of heavy ties to the global economy. I am a fairly old capitalist powerhouse, it stands to reason that I would be imbedded pretty deep in the economy of many nations.

George Nemishly stared longingly as the Osprey-II transport aircraft lifted off from the landing pad and soared off quickly through the blue skies. He didn't want to be here. Though he was a proffesional diplomat, everyone hates being thrown into a hopeless situation, and George considered this a hopeless situation. However, as an employee to the Good-Hands Diplomatic Corporation and official representative of the ICRC, he was obligated to fulfill his duty.

However, this didn't mean he wasn't still uneasy as heck. In a desperate attempt to calm himself, he set his suitcase down, and opened it. He slipped his hand inside, ruffled through a few sheefs of paper before coming up with the Official Notice that had brought him here.

______________________________________________________________

Official Notice from The Industrial Experiment / Chaos Experiment Relations Council

Third Quarter, Second Earnings Period, Twenty-Ninth Day / 2342.305.19.589 CEOD

We of the ICRC do not see the profit in a futile war with the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge, and would very much like to seek a more diplomatic solution. We propose a meeting between leaders of our three nations in an attempt to provide a peaceful resolution to this conflict. We will first address the location and time of the meeting, and then our hopes and offerings for a more lucrative relationship with the nation of Jangle Jangle Ridge.

Section I

A. Our selected location, and we very much hope you agree with this, is the Tri-Province Lodge in the Yellow Mountains of Chaos Experiment. This Lodge is located on the zenith of three of Chaos Experiments largest provincial districts. It has a history of hosting many successful summits between the two nations of the ICRC that led to the very close, cooperative relationship we enjoy in these modern times. It was the place in which a major war between Chaos Experiment and Industrial Experiment was barely avoided in classical times through level-headed discussion, and eventually hosted the first central location for the ICRC before said central location was moved closer to the border with Industrial Experiment. It is quite comfortable and has all the needed facilities for any diplomatic team to live in great comfort.

B. Our selected time is fourteen global-time days after the arrival of this Notice, which should arrive only hours after sending. Transportation will be available to any representatives you should chose to send. We will have a diplomat waiting upon your arrival, and a full team there upon your acceptance of this proposed conference.

Section II

A. We hope to achieve a peaceful resolution to the current conflict between our nations, and perhaps even an alliance on future matters. We are prepared to make certain concessions in the interest of future prosperity of business between our three great nations.

B. We hope to find a solution to the problem with Uranium Island, preferably one that will benefit your nation, too.

End Notice

______________________________________________________________

George shivered in the cold air on the VTOL pad near the administrative buildings of the lodge facilities while he stuff the notice back into his suitcase and made his way towards the lodge building itself. He longed for the warm comfort of the meeting rooms, the auditorium, and of course, his own suite within. Glancing around for anyone watching, he picked up his pace and began a rather undignified run towards the lodge upon confirming no one was watching.

I hope the other diplomats get here soon, and I hope to hell that Jangle Jangle accepts the summit he thought to himself as he neared the lodge building.

OoC: If you do accept this conference, please note whether or not you wish me to create a new thread for it or not.

OOC: Accepted, but nukes still launched. Can't help that. Yeah, A new thread'd be good.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 03:47
OoC: Well, I don't particularly care whether the nukes were launched or not as long as I still get access to the Uranium =P

Question though, were they fission weapons or thermonuclear?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344731 <---- There ya go.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 04:02
OoC: Well, I don't particularly care whether the nukes were launched or not as long as I still get access to the Uranium =P

Question though, were they fission weapons or thermonuclear?

And thread is being made.

OOC: Plutonium trigger makes uranium go boom. :D
Wherein lies the point of using a nuke. The explosion would likely set off some of the stockpiled and/or refined and/or unmined uranium. And the Plutonium doesn't help either. Read the post. Anyway, You can have uranium if you want from my nation. Or plutonium.
Industrial Experiment
01-08-2004, 04:06
OoC: ****, you're kidding me! I thought it was going to be an airburst nuke just so you could obliterate anyone that was actually currently on the island...

Well, that skews what I was thinking around a lot.
Steel Island
01-08-2004, 04:07
OOC: Tech is present day.

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General Ricardo Powers was discussing environmental dangers confronting the kangaroo when Captain Owen entered the conference room. The Captain snapped a quick salute and handed the General a message. He scanned through it and nodded. "We can talk about this another time", he said to the people seated around the conference table. They picked up there papers and were swiftly gone. "When did you recieve this?" he asked Captain Owen. "Just minutes ago, sir", the answer came. He immediately sat down and drafted a response.

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TO: George Nemishly of the ICRC
FROM: General Ricardo Powers of Steel Islands

I thank you for your concern and I accept your offer. We do not want war with Jangle Jangle Ridge and we seek only to benefit our citizens. I am sure that a suitable agreement will be reached. I regret that I can not be there in person, but I assure you that I will send my diplomats, and I will be able to attend through sattelite cameras. I formally commend you on your dedication to peace and efforts to stop this pointless conflict. My diplomats will immediately depart for Tri-Province Lodge in the Yellow Mountains of Chaos Experiment.

----

The General gave the message to Captain Owen and told him to send it immediately. He then pressed a green button on the wall and spoke into the radio next to it. "Have Lord Hathley sent up immediately". Lord Hathley was the best diplomat in the country. He soon arrived and Ricardo greeted the white haired man warmly. Although he was old, Hathley had a remarkably deft mind and had completed many succesful missions in his lifetime. Ricardo briefed Hathley on his mission and then the other diplomats joined them. "Good luck", Ricardo told them, "And don't forget to tell me when I am to make contact with the Tri-Province Lodge." With that the diplomats were gone.

OOC: Yes, a new thread would probably be best. :cool:
Steel Island
01-08-2004, 04:09
OOC: And may I say, that was bloody stupid, launching those missiles. Why the hell did you do that? Just screw a good RP why don't you. How about we just pretend that didn't happen?
Jangle Jangle Ridge
01-08-2004, 04:13
OOC: And may I say, that was bloody stupid, launching those missiles. Why the hell did you do that? Just screw a good RP why don't you. How about we just pretend that didn't happen?

OOC: How about not. It's a fun plot twist anyway. And it fits my character, Tarenteor, my national leader. Very impatient fellow.
Autonomous City-states
01-08-2004, 07:46
OOC: This is just ridiculous. JJR, you have absolutely no understanding of how nuclear weapons really work. You can't just set off the mines like that. Natural uranium isn't weapons-grade nor is it properly shaped to go critical.
Tahar Joblis
01-08-2004, 19:59
OOC: This is just ridiculous. JJR, you have absolutely no understanding of how nuclear weapons really work. You can't just set off the mines like that. Natural uranium isn't weapons-grade nor is it properly shaped to go critical.

OOC: More or less true. Ore doesn't have the degree of purity, nor is it refined into the more active (easy to fission) isotope. However, as noted above, Tahar Joblis was on high alert and alert for ICBMs.

During the spatial orbit phase of the two ICBMs, a single round satellite with tiny thruster blisters whirred to life. In space, of course, nobody can hear you whir, but they can see you heat up a little and, if they have really good resolution, spin in place. Three sharp laser blasts, invisible but energetic, aimed to disable the two missiles, pulsed out from the satellite, nominally a communications satellite rendered nonfunctional by an "unknown error or collision with space debris." Unaware of the nature of the very large second missile, this may have had the result of producing a mildly radioactive dusting as the debris burned up on re-entry.

OOC: EDIT: Dangit, I posted this too late, didn't I...