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Vanderov
31-07-2004, 06:23
I am the Founder & President of the International Communists Arms Sales Organization (ICASO).

We SELL the following to Communist Nations :

-Missiles (includes WMD's)
-Aircraft (Military and Civilian)
-Nuclear Material
-Civilian Ships
-Tanks
-Military Ships (Carriers and Battle Ships)

If you would like to Buy Weapons please Contact me via-Telegram.

Comrade Vanderov
Founder & President of ICASO
SMASH CAPITALISM
Vanderov
02-08-2004, 12:48
I am the small nation who does all the dealing of these weapons and/or ships.

Please contact Dresdenitania (Vice President) for things that you think my Economy cannot handle.

Comrade Vanderov
Founder & President of the ICASO
DontPissUsOff
02-08-2004, 12:55
Would you be so good as to put up a catalogue of what you have to offer so I can decide on things? :)
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 13:15
An example of a storefront can be found here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341400


Though, it is recommended to try and offer something different.. the market's a little saturated right now.. and larger manufacturers will try to undercut you...
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 13:41
The Aequatian Republic feels that it is our duty as a free nation and nuclear power to prevent the proliferation of nuclear warheads and delivery systems around the world, and especially to unstable communist nations.

The Aequatian Navy will be enacting a blockade of the Federation of Vanderov with the deployment of Task Force Warspite. These forces will ensure that your nation does not trade in arms or weapons of mass destruction and shall remain mobilized until you decide to cease your actions.

Any aircraft or vessels, military or civilian, that try to enter the nation of Vanderov will be fired upon and eliminated until we withdraw our forces.

Task Force Warspite, Southern Fleet
- RNS Warspite (CVN-6), Formidable Class Fleet Carrier
- RNS Implacable (BBN-17), Invincible Class Battleship
- RNS Odyssey (CGN-8), Excalibur Class Guided-Missile Cruiser
- RNS Venture (CGN-9), Excalibur Class Guided-Missile Cruiser
- 10th Flotilla, Guardian Class Guided-Missile Destroyers
RNS Griffon (DDG-19)
RNS Typhoon (DDG-20)
RNS Warrior (DDG-21)
- 20th Flotilla, Liberty II Class Destroyers
RNS Tornado (DD-25)
RNS Stalwart (DD-26)
RNS Pathfinder (DD-27)
- RNS Carrie (AOE-3), Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ship
- RNS Espandor (SSN-8), Seawolf Class Fleet Submarine
- RNS Verdan (SSN-9), Seawolf Class Fleet Submarine

International Support Group

Dumpsterdan
- DRN Amstel, Karel Doorman Class Frigates
- DRN Indonesia, Karel Doorman Class Frigates
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 13:50
The Dumpsterdanian goverment supports Aequatio in its blockade of Vanderov, therefor we are sending two Karel Doorman class frigates the: DRN Amstel and DRN Indonesia to support the blockade, these frigates and there acompanying marine detachments are under control of the Aequatio goverment.
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 13:53
Dregruk condemns Vanderov's storefront and is making preparations to blockade the nation in an attempt to continue our campaign of anti-Communist practices.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 13:57
The Aequatian Republic hails both the nations of Dumpsterdam and Dregruk for their support to operations against the proliferation of arms to communist nations.

Also, if Dregruk forces become involved, will they join the International Support Group under Task Force Warspite?
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 13:57
****Comminique from Foreign Minister Molotov****


Lasatania wholeheartedly condemns the naval blockade imposed on this fledgling nation by others. <OOC:Consider it: 2 posts and they have nukes - don't think so...>

As a matter of urgency, we call for the blockade to be withdrawn. Failure to comply with this request shall result in a massive aerial operation being launched by Long Range Aviation, using cruise missiles, to take out a large percentage of the ships forming the blockade.

You have been warned. You have 2 hours to confirm withdrawal. Our planes are already in the sky <OOC:2 squadrons of bears> and we are ready to launch an attack in a matter of minutes.
Sreech
02-08-2004, 13:57
What about Socialist nations?
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 13:59
****Comminique from Foreign Minister Molotov****


Lasatania wholeheartedly condemns the naval blockade imposed on this fledgling nation by others. <OOC:Consider it: 2 posts and they have nukes - don't think so...>

As a matter of urgency, we call for the blockade to be withdrawn. Failure to comply with this request shall result in a massive aerial operation being launched by Long Range Aviation, using cruise missiles, to take out a large percentage of the ships forming the blockade.

You have been warned. You have 2 hours to confirm withdrawal. Our planes are already in the sky <OOC:2 squadrons of bears> and we are ready to launch an attack in a matter of minutes.

We will agree to withdraw our forces if it can be proved that the nation of Vanderov does not possess nuclear weapons and delivery systems to distribute and that they will cease their actions of selling arms.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:00
We condemm Aequatio, Dumpsterdam and Dreguk for resorting to aggressive methods before diplomacy. You are the real unstable nations that should not possess nuclear weaponry.

EDIT- changed spelling and wording. i'm tired :p
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 14:05
OOC: Simple matter of fact is, a nation with two posts cannot have nukes.. its, how shall we say, a bit of a foregone conclusion really.. cos a) where'd they get the material and tech and b) if they didn't have it - who sold it to them..


IC:

Comminique from Foreign Minister Molotov:


Given that this is not the only nation selling arms in the world, we find your reasoning somewhat dubious. Any nation that declares a blockade on another without proper explanation should be prepared to face the consequences. Your blockade more than likely flies in the face of international law and shows scant regard for the sovereignity of Vanderov, even if they do seem somewhat misguided as a nation..

We stand by our original demands..
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 14:15
Due to the increasing international threats upon our blockade, we have made up our minds fully that this is a very dangerous area to be in. Therefore, we are sending an armada of anti-missile frigates, anti-aircraft frigates and far more aircraft carriers in order to crush any attempts of attack upon our blockade.

We'd like to take this opportunity to explain to all nations making threats against our armada, that any attack made will be viewed as an act of war, and steps will be taken to bring our full military might down upon whoever launches one such attack.

OOC: You might want to look at my nation before thinking about making any attacks, by the way...
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 14:17
Let us make clear that we are only preventing the shipment of nuclear material, delivery systems and weapons untill Vanderov ceases selling these.
We will not withdraw out of international waters because someone threatens us, basta, end of discussion.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:21
You are showing blatant irresponsibility in your actions. We once again suggest diplomacy to resolve this situation rather than direct military aggression, which is unnecessary against a nation of this size.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 14:23
Due to the increasing international threats upon our blockade, we have made up our minds fully that this is a very dangerous area to be in. Therefore, we are sending an armada of anti-missile frigates, anti-aircraft frigates and far more aircraft carriers in order to crush any attempts of attack upon our blockade.

We'd like to take this opportunity to explain to all nations making threats against our armada, that any attack made will be viewed as an act of war, and steps will be taken to bring our full military might down upon whoever launches one such attack.

OOC: You might want to look at my nation before thinking about making any attacks, by the way...

OOC: Oh.. I love it... so you're just going to 'move' these anti-missile frigates hundreds of miles in the blinking of an eye... oooooh how realistic.. PAH!! All I've got in the air is two squadrons of aging Bear bombers equipped with cruise missiles, plus several squadrons on 20-minute standby... Perhaps someone can't face the fact they were ace-carded... plus I wouldn't expected anything less fanciful from someone coming from Ayrshire..

IC:

I suppose we better warn you that our Typhoon submarine, the Komrade Ilyeshiv, is currently deep in international waters with 24 ICBM's targeted at your nation's capital and other major infrastructure and command chain centres. Your empty threats do not scare us..
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 14:24
OOC: Has nobody here heard of the word 'brinksmanship'... Plus, I said I had 'deployed squadrons' , thereby giving me the option of not using them...
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 14:27
Consider your threat noted, DMC allerted and tactical assets diverted to you.
A TG has already been sent to Vanderov before you interevened in this.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:27
We have issued orders for several destroyers, frigates and attack submarines to enter the vicinity of the blockade area.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 14:31
OOC: Simple matter of fact is, a nation with two posts cannot have nukes.. its, how shall we say, a bit of a foregone conclusion really.. cos a) where'd they get the material and tech and b) if they didn't have it - who sold it to them..

OOC: I know that he probably doesn't have nukes, but I just wanted to make this a little more interesting.

IC:

We feel that embargo and sanctions are useless tactics that only display a half-hearted attempt to stop an unlawful action, a blockade is a physical barrier that is much harder to ignore than sanctions and condemning an administration.

Until we receive credible intelligence that the nation of Vanderov does not possess nuclear warheads and delivery systems to sell on the international market, since in our opinion, a nation that size does not have the capability or responsibility to handle such devices, our forces shall remain in the area of operations.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:35
OOC: I know that he probably doesn't have nukes, but I just wanted to make this a little more interesting.

IC:

We feel that embargo and sanctions are useless tactics that only display a half-hearted attempt to stop an unlawful action, a blockade is a physical barrier that is much harder to ignore than sanctions and condemning an administration.

Until we receive credible intelligence that the nation of Vanderov does not possess nuclear warheads and delivery systems to sell on the international market, since in our opinion, a nation that size does not have the capability or responsibility to handle such devices, our forces shall remain in the area of operations.

We consider this hypocritical. If you are such a paragon of responsibility, why do you not initiate diplomatic exchanges rather than jump straight into military involvement and create unnecessary tension? You are a warmonger, nothing more.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 14:40
We consider this hypocritical. If you are such a paragon of responsibility, why do you not initiate diplomatic exchanges rather than jump straight into military involvement and create unnecessary tension? You are a warmonger, nothing more.

OOC: I know that :D

IC:

Tension did not arise until other nations jumped to the defence of the unruly, arms dealing state that is Vanderov. All we demand is that the sale of nuclear devices and delivery systems cease, and we shall withdraw our forces.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 14:42
Communique from Komrade Molotov, Foreign Minister

Following the deployment of a surface fleet by Kanabia, we feel that there is sufficient international presence to deter those who seek to blockade Vanderov. As a result, we shall only increase monitoring of the situation at hand. Expect overhead flights from Lasatania reconnaisance aircraft at regular intervals. Any act of agression against these aircraft shall be responded to in kind.

However, as a measure of our lack of faith in certain parties, we shall deploy six Sierra II class submarines to within 250km of the blockade site, so as to provide us with the option of a rapid strike against it if need be..
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:46
OOC: I know that :D

IC:

Tension did not arise until other nations jumped to the defence of the unruly, arms dealing state that is Vanderov. All we demand is that the sale of nuclear devices and delivery systems cease, and we shall withdraw our forces.

OOC: I know that you know that :D

IC:
Your military posture remains unneccesary and we feel compelled to increase our own presence in the area in order to ensure that you take no aggressive actions.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 14:51
Schaeffer sat in his office reading over the communiques, "Those goddamned Lasatanians!" He shouted as he threw the papers into the waste basket, "They are giving us so much grief!"

"Sir, we could just eliminate their forces along with those of Kanabia," suggested General Jenkins, "Knock them out of this situation perhaps?"

"That would cause open conflict between our nations, just hold our position in the area and don't let anything in or out," ordered the president.

"Yes Sir."
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 14:52
Seeing as we still have not been able to establish connections with Vanderov and with enemy surface, submarine and aircraft presence we are forced to step up the amount of armed forces in the blockade.

The sixth carrier group along with the third wolfpack have been transferd to the area, the jackrabbit interceptor fighters from the DRN Ullataster's Revenge will comence recon patrols and any aggressive acts made towards these aircraft will be retaliated.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 14:53
Your military posture remains unneccesary and we feel compelled to increase our own presence in the area in order to ensure that you take no aggressive actions.

We respect you decision to stand for what you believe, however, we hope that this is not the preparation for aggressive action against our own forces within the area of operations.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 14:58
We respect you decision to stand for what you believe, however, we hope that this is not the preparation for aggressive action against our own forces within the area of operations.

We are not initiating hostile actions ourself, but our suspicions have been heightened even more by Dumpsterdam's further military deployment. We remain alert.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 15:01
Seeing as we still have not been able to establish connections with Vanderov and with enemy surface, submarine and aircraft presence we are forced to step up the amount of armed forces in the blockade.

The sixth carrier group along with the third wolfpack have been transferd to the area, the jackrabbit interceptor fighters from the DRN Ullataster's Revenge will comence recon patrols and any aggressive acts made towards these aircraft will be retaliated.

We feel that furthur deployment of forces is unecessary, while they deploy their own forces to stand opposite ours, it is believed that military action by either side is not needed. As Aequatian forces are only present to enforce the demand of our government, we shall withdraw as soon as we receive word that our demands are met.
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 15:09
plus I wouldn't expected anything less fanciful from someone coming from Ayrshire..

OOC: What the hell has my home got to do with my RP skills? Hmm? And targeting 24 ICBMs at my capital is supposed to be highly advanced RP?

Secondly, you are 339 million strong. Yet you claim to not only have 24 ICBMs to launch at my capital, but you presume to have the advanced technology capable of making it all the way there and make it through the masses of defences that exist around the capital?

IC:

We remain vigil in our standing of the blockade. Once again, we remind any attacks on our blockade will be viewed as an act of war. We demand that Lasatania, Kanabia and any others who have made threats upon our blockade recognise the consequences of threatening the lives of Dregruk citizens.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:09
5,000ft above the ocean, 200km west of Vanderov, Pilot Sharknonsky looked down on the approaching land mass. Behind him flew another four AN-72s, each holding 40 paratroopers of the elite 3rd Airborne Division's Red Octobrist Regiment. 200 of Lasatania's finest troops prepared for action..

One hours flying time behind them was an AN-124, the largest aircraft in the LAF inventory.. already scheduled to make a landing in Vanderov under the auspice of a civilian transport flight, it carried three T82 tanks and a selection of anti-tank weapons..

Back on board the leading AN-72 Lieutenant Korprosky looked again at the orders..

It was simple.. they seized the airport and held it.. further reinforcements would arrive shortly afterwards...

If only everything could be that simple, chuckled Korprosky

"Men! Do your final checks, we're going to be in for a rough landing!"

<NOTE: These aircraft are unmarked and assumed civilian..>
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:11
OOC: What the hell has my home got to do with my RP skills? Hmm? And targeting 24 ICBMs at my capital is supposed to be highly advanced RP?

Secondly, you are 339 million strong. Yet you claim to not only have 24 ICBMs to launch at my capital, but you presume to have the advanced technology capable of making it all the way there and make it through the masses of defences that exist around the capital?

IC:

We remain vigil in our standing of the blockade. Once again, we remind any attacks on our blockade will be viewed as an act of war. We demand that Lasatania, Kanabia and any others who have made threats upon our blockade recognise the consequences of threatening the lives of Dregruk citizens.


OOC: Let's just say I find the people of Ayrshire to be somewhat unimaginative.. must be the inbreeding... he he he he... especially down the garnock valley way...

As for my nation being only '339 million strong' numbers mean feck all, the population of the US is currently around 250 million and they have 5,000 nuclear warheads... go figure... Plus as for your mass of defences... ever heard of airburst and MIRVs.. plus if your current tech.. how the heck you gonna stop an ICBM... no-one else really has quite got the tech right to date..
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 15:18
OOC: Read the stickies. The current rule of thumb is that nations under 500 million are not allowed to have nukes or WMDs. It stops people joining and starting a massive nuclear war on their first day. Or people claiming that they're going to fire 24 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles into the capital of a nation that's been around long enough to amass more than enough defences to shoot down one such threat (And have done in the past against both Troon, Noble Kings and Slutbum Wallah on a variety of occasions).
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:23
OOC: OK, whatever.. obviously brinksmanship is nothing here.. and let's just say with a nation of over 300million, in real terms I'm quite sizeable.. however, if anyone bothered to check, the past of my nation is as an ex-Soviet client state.. hence, all my tech is soviet and thus acquiring weapons wouldn't be that big an issue..

Plus, I have no time for such petty squabbles, plus my 'threat' was a response to someone who can miraculously move a whole fleet in the time it takes me to deploy two squadrons of aircraft.. 'advanced RP', go home and work out some time scales and relative speeds... (Perhaps he 'teleported them there'.. ) I don't pander to people - simple. Someone puts a fleet out in the sea and its threatened by a real force, well they gotta take the casualties.. you can't just suddenly have a 'anti-missile fleet' appear, if that's not godmoding what is??

Oh and one last thing.. if you even bothered to read any of my posts in this forum, which frankly it appears you haven't, you may realise I have drawn up a proposal for a nuclear non-proliferation treaty... so go figure, I ain't gonna be the one firing nukes.. (Give me strength...)
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 15:24
If this situation continues to escalate, I will ask the entirety of the Communist International to assist in the defence of Vanderov.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:27
****Telefax from Lasatanian Foreign Ministry to Kanabia****

Given your recent intervention in this issue, the nation of Lasatania would seek to provide you with any military assistance required.

Do not hesitate to contact us.

Yours,

Foreign Minister,

Komrade Molotov
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 15:27
The E-2 Hawkeye was flying its perimeter along the border of international waters and Vanderov national waters when it spotted the civilian aircraft approaching the Vanderov mainland, "Warspite, this is Hawkeye one, we've got radar contact with five unmarked aircraft on route to Vanderov mainland, over."

"Affirmative Hawkeye one, Warspite scrambling fighters to intercept, over and out."

The pilots already had their equipment on and were prepared for the call, they scrambled to their F-35 fighters and were in the air within minutes. The eight aircraft lit their afterburners and rushed to make visual contact with the unmarked planes.
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 15:29
OOC: It's also recognised that in most non-character RPs, such as this, individual posts can take place days apart.

IC: The demands are being made once again. All nations threatening the combined blockade are requested to understand that we simply wish Vanderov ceases its selling of nuclear weaponry to unstable communist nations.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 15:30
****Telefax from Lasatanian Foreign Ministry to Kanabia****

Given your recent intervention in this issue, the nation of Lasatania would seek to provide you with any military assistance required.

Do not hesitate to contact us.

Yours,

Foreign Minister,

Komrade Molotov

We appreciate your offer of support. If conflict is inevitable, we will need your help.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 15:32
OOC: It's also recognised that in most non-character RPs, such as this, individual posts can take place days apart.

IC: The demands are being made once again. All nations threatening the combined blockade are requested to understand that we simply wish Vanderov ceases its selling of nuclear weaponry to unstable communist nations.

We are a communist nation and we feel that your actions are only in order to serve your own misguided imperialist agenda.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:34
(Formation of aircraft heading towards Vanderov airport

5xAn72 Coaler + 1xAn124 Condor)


****Radio message all frequencies****

Attention, the aircraft are a scheduled delivery of food products from Lasatania to Vanderov. We have no fighter escort and are on a civilian mission.


****End of message****
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 15:36
As we explained when we formed the blockade, the nation of Dregruk pursues an avid anti-communist agenda. This is on account of the civil war that killed a good number of our citizens a decade ago, and we've performed these same actions several times since then. Including against the Global Communist Alliance, which subsequently dissolved.
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 15:37
OC: Wat I mean is, I am transfering there area of operation towards Vanderov's coast, it would have taken them a few RL houres to get there, wich have already passed.

IC: The Dumpsterdanian foreign ministery has recieved a message from Vanderov's goverment after asking them to stop selling nuclear grade hardware, Vanderov's is threatening to attack all DRN and strikeforce vessle eventhough they are in international water, enemy submarine movement has been detected and DAF naval HQ urges all strikeforce commanders to be alert.
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 15:38
As we explained when we formed the blockade, the nation of Dregruk pursues an avid anti-communist agenda. This is on account of the civil war that killed a good number of our citizens a decade ago, and we've performed these same actions several times since then. Including against the Global Communist Alliance, which subsequently dissolved.

I dare you to try the same against the Communist International. We will triumph easily.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 15:39
The F-35 fighters were quick to make contact with the transport aircraft, the lead fighter's pilot spoke over the radio, "Unidentified aircraft, due to the blockade enforced by the Republic of Aequatio et al, we request that you divert your course to a neighbouring nation. This is the only warning which will be issued and that you will recieve, refusal to adhere will be considered a threat and will be treated as such, I repeat, divert course... or else."
DontPissUsOff
02-08-2004, 15:39
So you are willing to begin a war for the sake of some incident a decade ago? Ye Gods, you are meant to be responsible to your people! If you wish monitoring of this country then by all means ask people to monitor it, but don't blockade them and precipitate tensions.
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 15:42
Sadly, our international relations department isn't what is was. It's now our responsibility to our people to see to it that no communist will ever enter Dregruk ever again.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 15:43
****Satcom message from Marshal of the State, General Morosov to Aequatio****

President,

I have been informed of your forces interception of Lasatanian aircraft over Vanderov. I would suggest you stand your forces down immediately. Our mission in this country is simple, to remove the company selling nuclear weapons and get out. We require the airport for this and any interference will be dealt with severely. We have SLCM forces in the vicinity and destruction of our aircraft could well result in your aircraft not having a carrier to return to.

I suggest you hold fire for now.


****End of message****
Communist Louisiana
02-08-2004, 15:46
We will support our allie(Kanabia). We would also have to come to aid of our allie if attacked.

OCC: Aequatio, your not even a nation on NS. Everyone in this RP actually does have the right to ignore you. Since you dont have a nation on NS, you have no MILITARY. Vanderov, if you are under a month old, you can not own nuclear weapons for the simple fact that to maintain a nuclear arsenal at your age along with a military is very costly. To costly for a nation who is under a month old. I would say you should just ignore Arquatio as well as any other person who RP's and doesnt have a nation on NS. It pointless b/c you cant even get a population count or their economy strenght.

IC: Anyways, we would be HAPPY to sell the ICBM's to Vanderov, we just wouldnt include the nuclear weapons themselves
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 15:49
OC: *coughs* http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/10037/page=display_nation/nation=aequatio
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 15:56
OOC: Hey C.L., how's that crow taste?

IC:

To: General Morosov, Lasatania
From: General Jenkins, Aequatio

Unacceptable, I'm afraid that we cannot allow for any aircraft to enter Vanderov, otherwise it would destroy the very concept behind the blockade. Please have your aircraft change course to either a neighbouring nation or return home to Lasatania, since we cannot allow them to enter Vanderov.

---

The warning was given to the fleet, the newly acquired Seawolf Block 2 Missile Defence Systems were activated aboard the vessels, should they launch anything larger than a 4.5-inch shell, it was going to get stopped.
Communist Louisiana
02-08-2004, 16:00
My bad. :)
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 16:02
Cannot comply, insufficient fuel onboard.. already stretching operational limit of An72 with this..
Kanabia
02-08-2004, 16:03
We thank Communist Louisiana for their support. We are considering further deployment.

OOC: But now, i'm going to bed. It's late here.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 16:05
Cannot comply, insufficient fuel onboard.. already stretching operational limit of An72 with this..

Then have the aircraft's crew bail out and they shall be picked up by Aequatian naval vessels and returned to your nation, you shall be reimbursed the food onboard that will be lost. We apologize for the inconvenience, however we must stay true to our blockade.

OOC: I have to go out for a while, but I'll be back on later.
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 16:06
High priority message:

To: General Jenkins, Aequatio
From: Fleet Admiral Ulas

Let the Lasatania aircraft land, Jackrabbit interceptor fighters will give them a propper escort to the airfield, we have a good idea of wat they are carrying.

Furthermore, you will let all aircraft turn around, search all freighters and if they do not carry any "illegal matter"(nuclear weapons) you will let them pass towards there destination.

End of message.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 16:07
If we bail out, we bail out over land... we do not trust the blockade...
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 16:08
To: Fleet Admiral Ulas
From: General Jenkins, Aequatio

We cannot allow any aircraft or ships enter Vanderov, we must seal the nation off completely until our demands are met.
Aequatio
02-08-2004, 16:09
If we bail out, we bail out over land... we do not trust the blockade...

You have my personal promise that the crews of the aircraft will be returned to Lasatania as quickly as possible and without hesitation, the Warspite carries C-2 Greyhound transport aircraft with sufficiant range to reach Lasatania. It is the only way short of shooting the planes down.
Communist Louisiana
02-08-2004, 16:11
Secret Message

TO: Vanderov
FROM: Premier Bobby Jindal

We see the situation that you are in. We would like to end it by possibly buying a majority of if not all your nuclear weapons you are wanting to sell. Do not worry about the blockade, our units either air or sea can get pass them.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 16:12
****Radio message - all channels****

Mayday.. out of fuel, descending towards Vanderov, short landings to be made by other aircraft.. alert air traffic control, that Condor's gonna need a lot of space.. Repeat.. MAYDAY..

*****
Dumpsterdam
02-08-2004, 16:12
To: General Jenkins, Aequatio
From: Fleet Admiral Ulas

Be warned that DAF naval HQ has given us other orders, we shall search all freighters carrying mundane supplies and let them pass if they carry no illegal matter, we will not, shall not starve a nation to death.
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 16:16
Press announcement from InterLas (Lasatanian State News Agency)

Vanderov Airport seized by Lasatanian Special Forces

Following escalating tension over the possible sale of nuclear weapons by Vanderov, Lasatania has decided to intervene in order to remove the threat of sale of nuclear materials to rogue nations.

Lasatanian special forces took Vanderov's main airport at 0800 hours this morning and reinforcements from the 3rd Airborne Division are expected to arrive at the airport within the next two hours.

Resistance to Lasatanian troops was minimal, with minor casualties inflicted on airport security before their surrender.

Further reports will be made as the situation unfolds.
Vanderov
02-08-2004, 16:46
All Nations That Are With Me (the Founder Of The Icaso) Please Telegram Sayin Only These Words 'i Am In Support'

Nations That Are Holding A Blockade Of My Country You Must Withdraw Or Military Force Will Be Autorized!

Comrade Vanderov
Founder & President Of The Icaso
Vanderov
02-08-2004, 16:53
I have deployed Troops to my main airport and taken it back and your plane was fired at twice by two SAMs and was struck down by one of them all prisoner are being held in a secure location any further attempts to get into my country will be destroyed. someone STOLE two WMD's from one of my C-130 transport planes...I demand them returned or paid for!!!!!

I have submarines around my countries border with an ocean and will sink any ships that use hostile actions!

Supporters of the ICASO please help they are trying to destroy my Organization.

Comrade Vanderov
Head of the ICASO
Lasatania
02-08-2004, 16:55
Err... we've seized your airport as a security measure.... We are ordred to persuade you to desist in the sale of nuclear weapons.. however, ultimately we took the airport to prevent one of the nations blockading you from doing so first..
Connersonia
02-08-2004, 16:58
LOL you RP'ers really need to get out more. Fancy wasting all your time on stuff like this- don't you have real lives to lead?!
The RSR
02-08-2004, 17:47
The RSR is here to help Vanderov and stop the blockade. Therefore, I'm sending re-inforcements to him:

50 MiGs, armed with fuel air bombs
100 T-80 Tanks, with Uranium shells
20 Nuclear Powered Submarines with Typhoon Torpedoes
50 Long Range Ballistic Artilleries
100 EMP Misslies
30 Aurora Bombers, capable of supersonic flight
Vanderov
02-08-2004, 18:02
Lasatania please i am very sorry my troops thought you were an enemy.

You can help but i will not stop the sale of WMD's. I will give you money to pay the damages and i will supply you with a plane of my own to replace yours.

Communist Louisiana i produce WMD's daily but you can help by hitting the blockade!

RSR: Thank you for the following

50 MiGs, armed with fuel air bombs
100 T-80 Tanks, with Uranium shells
20 Nuclear Powered Submarines with Typhoon Torpedoes
50 Long Range Ballistic Artilleries
100 EMP Misslies
30 Aurora Bombers, capable of supersonic flight


Comrade Vanderov
Head of the ICASO
Vanderov
02-08-2004, 18:10
Communist Louisianna I would be happy to buy some ICBM's from you. I only sell the Nuclear weapons my allies Federated Republics, Melkislov, and Dresdenitania.

I will buy your ICBM's and will store them and possibly use them.

If anyone in here will help me if there is a war to come then telegram me straight away.

Comrade Vanderov
Head & founder of the ICASO
Dregruk
02-08-2004, 19:08
The Government of Dregruk requests that Vanderov understands why this blockade is being formed; to prevent the retail of WMDs to Communist nations. You can keep your business, just stop the WMD shipments!
The God Falltothzu
02-08-2004, 20:24
to prevent the retail of WMDs to Communist nations.

Asking for clarifacation:

Hypothetically speaking, if he were selling the WMDs to Democracies, Republics, Capatalists ect. Then there would be no problem here?
Tyrandis
02-08-2004, 20:28
Asking for clarifacation:

Hypothetically speaking, if he were selling the WMDs to Democracies, Republics, Capatalists ect. Then there would be no problem here?

Communists represent a massive percentage of imperialist aggression these days.
The God Falltothzu
02-08-2004, 20:42
Just because many act as such, you can not assume that all would. You just gotta give benifit of the doubt sometimes....
Communist Louisiana
02-08-2004, 20:52
OCC: Lasatania, you can not rp the taking of his airport without him rping his defenses. Please learn how to RP. Vanderov, if I were you I would just ignore him.

TO:Vanderov
FROM: Premier Jindal

How about this, you open up shop to produce nuclear weapons inside Louisiana. This would protect you from their blockade. A majority of the Gulf of Mexico is controlled by Communist nations(Neo-Soviet Russia (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaca, and the Florida keys)Aztec National League(All of Mexico and central america)and I(Hatti, Barbados, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Grenada, and the Louisiana coast). I am also protected by The International. I would allow you to open up one of your production facilities within Louisiana if you would allow to Louisiana inspectors to make random checks to make sure the factories are safe for workers and whatnot.

This will also give you some access to Louisianaian technologies (rocketry) as well as her resources (Lots of oil). Please respond to our idea comrade.
Soviet leaders
03-08-2004, 02:29
Military Actions HQ location:Unkown time:13:00
the alarm sounded ALL GENERALS AND COMMANDER RIDKOV please report to Meeting Room 1 the Permier is waiting for you. at 13:10 CODE:RED all the military went on alert stat the SAM Sites
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In the Meeting Room time:13:10
the generals said good day
Permier:A nation is being blockade on the nation of Vanderov!
Navy General:We deploy fleets 1&2 each fleet has the following: 2 Distroyers,4 Battleships(Bizmark Class),2 Aircraft Carriers,2 subs(typhoon Class).
fleet 1 has a special ship
the Ridkov class Battleship
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(Ridkov class)
600 yards long
width 100 yards
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Power Plant: 4 nuclear cores
Hp: Unknown
Konts:90 full speed
1 propeller catapiler drive
fule: coolent 9000 galloons
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The Guns
5 turets Front/back
6 guns each
30 inch.
10 SAM SITES
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Supply
food:9000 days
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crew: 1,000,000,000
Army men:1,000
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End of meeting
later in the Berifing room for fleet 1&2 Time: 14:03
Men we have a blockade of a nation if they attack the nation of Vanderov
we attack the blockading nations fleet
GOOD LUCK AND FOR SOVIET POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tyrandis
03-08-2004, 02:32
Just because many act as such, you can not assume that all would. You just gotta give benifit of the doubt sometimes....

I wouldn't trust a commie with a nuke any farther than I could throw him.

Either way, the Imperial Triumvirate will not interfere in this conflict, although the Tyrandis National Intelligence Agency is keeping tabs on the people deciding to buy weapons...
Dumpsterdam
03-08-2004, 08:11
No messages have been sent from Vanderov's goverment after a TG sent yesterday asking Dumpsterdanain officials access to records of sale and placing neutral observers in Vanderov to ensure they would not breach the rights of our agreement. DRN blockading fleet stays in position and will not bugde for soviet forces.
RedCommunist
03-08-2004, 08:18
Communist selling? Communist buying? With what? Communist aren't to have money. This sounds very capitalist to me....
Dumpsterdam
03-08-2004, 08:33
OoC: *calls vanderov a capatalistic(sp) pig* :p
Lasatania
03-08-2004, 08:48
OCC: Lasatania, you can not rp the taking of his airport without him rping his defenses. Please learn how to RP. Vanderov, if I were you I would just ignore him.

TO:Vanderov
FROM: Premier Jindal

How about this, you open up shop to produce nuclear weapons inside Louisiana. This would protect you from their blockade. A majority of the Gulf of Mexico is controlled by Communist nations(Neo-Soviet Russia (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaca, and the Florida keys)Aztec National League(All of Mexico and central america)and I(Hatti, Barbados, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Grenada, and the Louisiana coast). I am also protected by The International. I would allow you to open up one of your production facilities within Louisiana if you would allow to Louisiana inspectors to make random checks to make sure the factories are safe for workers and whatnot.

This will also give you some access to Louisianaian technologies (rocketry) as well as her resources (Lots of oil). Please respond to our idea comrade.


OOC: You try doing this while trying to work!! (Plus given he as offline at the time.. it kind of figured...!)
Drabikstan
03-08-2004, 10:00
Urgent message to Comrade Vanderov of The Federation of Vanderov from The United Socialist States of Drabikstan:

The United Socialist States of Drabikstan (USSD) offers your brave nation full diplomatic support in this crisis. We condemn the actions taken by imperialist powers against the people of the socialist state of Vanderov. This once again proves to us that socialist nations need to unite together to oppose imperial capitalist nations that seek to inforce their rule on the free peoples of our nations. Drabikstan regrets to inform you that we are unable to send military aid due to our lack of resources but will promise economic aid if requested.

- The People's Revolutionary Council of The United Socialist States of Drabikstan
The RSR
03-08-2004, 12:56
The RSR would like to buy a few WMD missiles.

ps. Tyrandis, you can trust a communist with a nuke more than a capitalist. E.g, just look at Bush, yes you can really trust him with a nuclear missile
Aequatio
03-08-2004, 13:03
Asking for clarifacation:

Hypothetically speaking, if he were selling the WMDs to Democracies, Republics, Capatalists ect. Then there would be no problem here?

I would have still enacted the blockade no matter who he was selling the weapons to, it's the fact that he is selling these weapons. The only reason I've acted against him is because I had decided to start using blockades as the most peaceful way to get what I want.
Lasatania
03-08-2004, 13:06
I would have still enacted the blockade no matter who he was selling the weapons to, it's the fact that he is selling these weapons. The only reason I've acted against him is because I had decided to start using blockades as the most peaceful way to get what I want.


OOC:Hmmm... a return to gunboat diplomacy...
Dregruk
03-08-2004, 13:13
OOC:Hmmm... a return to gunboat diplomacy...

As opposed to you capturing a friendly airport and declaring another player's damage.
Lasatania
03-08-2004, 13:18
OOC: Wooo.. no need to be so anal about things.... I'd like to see you trying to write things at about 60wpm and do this at the same time... Plus, it was a press statement if you had read it carefully and it didn't exactly say much about damage..

As for seizure of airports... ever heard of Pristina??
Aequatio
03-08-2004, 13:21
OOC:Hmmm... a return to gunboat diplomacy...

OOC: Well it worked, didn't it? It got a lot of attention rather than simply "OMG I condemn you and impose sanctions on your evil nation! My work is done!"
Lasatania
03-08-2004, 13:44
OOC: Well, I wasn't commenting either way! :) Although I do smell something dubious about this whole thing...
Aequatio
03-08-2004, 13:55
OOC: Well, I wasn't commenting either way! :) Although I do smell something dubious about this whole thing...

OOC: Smell all you want, I'm testing out some new diplomatic tactics.
Dumpsterdam
03-08-2004, 13:59
OoC: So am I, its called medium rare backstabbing. :)
Dregruk
03-08-2004, 16:29
As for me, this is the same tactic I use in any situation. Send an overwhelming mass of men, tanks or ships until the situation goes away. Or everyone dies. In which case, we send more men. Either way...
Lasatania
03-08-2004, 16:38
OOC: Christ that's laughable, but somewhat believable given your miraculous deployment of anti-missile frigates in the face of even the slightest chance of being hit by a smaller force... obviously strategy isn't something that springs to mind.. go and read some Clausewitz or something before even starting anything..
Communist Louisiana
03-08-2004, 16:58
Im selling nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons now.

http://www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana/

Nice site ay?

ALL COMMUNIST NATIONS WILL RECIEVE 30% OFF FIRST PURCHASE!
Dregruk
03-08-2004, 19:22
OOC: Christ that's laughable, but somewhat believable given your miraculous deployment of anti-missile frigates in the face of even the slightest chance of being hit by a smaller force... obviously strategy isn't something that springs to mind.. go and read some Clausewitz or something before even starting anything..

Try reading other people's arguments. Jeez. I explained that most non character RPs have spaces of several days over the posts.

And secondly, the whole point of Dregruk diplomacy is to start a war. The whole economy is built around the armed forces. Hence the "Militaristic Dominion" part. Strategy comes after the war's started, and even then it takes second place to brute force. Given the fact that you're a still a relatively new player, I'll ignore the fact that you presume to know what every nation's diplomacy is like.
Lasatania
04-08-2004, 08:54
OOC: <Blows brains out after hammering head against wall for several hours...> Diplomacy is an emphemeral subject by its very nature.. but nonetheless I shall remain silent.. for now..
The Class A Cows
04-08-2004, 10:37
OCC: Lasatania, you can not rp the taking of his airport without him rping his defenses. Please learn how to RP. Vanderov, if I were you I would just ignore him.

TO:Vanderov
FROM: Premier Jindal

How about this, you open up shop to produce nuclear weapons inside Louisiana. This would protect you from their blockade. A majority of the Gulf of Mexico is controlled by Communist nations(Neo-Soviet Russia (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaca, and the Florida keys)Aztec National League(All of Mexico and central america)and I(Hatti, Barbados, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Grenada, and the Louisiana coast). I am also protected by The International. I would allow you to open up one of your production facilities within Louisiana if you would allow to Louisiana inspectors to make random checks to make sure the factories are safe for workers and whatnot.

This will also give you some access to Louisianaian technologies (rocketry) as well as her resources (Lots of oil). Please respond to our idea comrade.

OOC: Im too tired for looking over my conlang and technology documents right now so this will need to do.

We request that Communist Louisiana withdraws this offer as shortly as possible, as, if Vanderov choose to accept or we will be forced to enforce the blockade using the following measures in order as part of our nonproliferation initiative, operation "XrkK NhNhRk":


Trade Embargos against Communist Louisiana, along with requests that allied nations do the same.

IC Bombers taking out Vanderov 3C using High Power Microwave equipped guided bomblets.

Movement or 6 DEW Cruisers, 480 torpedo boats, 20 logistics support ships, 2 Battleships, 4 Submarine destroyers, a floating fortress (basically a capital ship,) and an aircraft carrier to enforce the blockade.

Establishment of a no-fly zone over the airspace of Vanderov, this will include the forced redirection and/or destruction of civilian aircraft.

Patrols of attack aircraft around the coast to destroy any boat which cannot be positively identified as a fishing boat. Again, exceptions will not be made for civilians. This will be replaced by submarine patrols entitled to board and search the vessels once our attack submarines move into range.

Firebombing of Vanderov ports. Leaflet drops will precede to minimize Vanderov casualties.


If worst comes to worst, jKLjhNB Jc KWNB Special Police Forces will arrive in Vanderov by hovercraft to stabilize coastal areas and fortify positions for the arrival of engineering corps to build and maintain monitoring stations.

Class A Cows does not wish to get involved in this conflict and wishes that Communist Lousiana would be willing to see the foolishness of giving such an unstable power weapons of this calibur. If these should fall into the hands of terrorists under questionable Venderov security the entire world could be at risk.

If the offer is withdrawn and no other such foolish oppurtunities are given to Vanderov we will not intervene unless required by allegiance.
Aequatio
04-08-2004, 13:39
To: To whom it may concern
From: President Schaeffer, Aequatio

Due to the overwhelming, aggreessive and now unwanted support by other nations against the Federation of Vanderov, I have given the Aequatian Republic Armed Forces the order to stand down its own forces within the area of operations and will begin to withdraw from international waters within the next 12 hours.

I understand that other nations possess the same intentions as our own, however not once did we use force against the nation of Vanderov, our goal in the use of the blockade was to stop Vanderov from the sale of nuclear weapons and delivery systems... now we feel ashamed to even stand against them due to the actions of our supporting nations.

We hope that this situation can be solved without military action against the warmongering nations that stood with us and the communist nations that stood against us, because it won't be solved with the Aequatian Republic involved.
Lasatania
04-08-2004, 13:43
Official statement from Lasatanian Central Command:

Following the succesful seizure of the airport by Lasatanian special forces and the changing nature of the situation, Lasatanian Central Command has decided to withdraw all forces from the area. Other more pressing issues have forced us to place all armed forces on high alert within the Motherland and as such we are not in a position to undertake any foreign excursions.

We do, however, continue to express deep concern over the action of some nations in this affair and will watch future developments closely.

LASCOM
Dregruk
04-08-2004, 14:16
Due to the recent event of war being declared upon the Dominon by Danneland (OOC: In an entirely different thread, before anyone gets confused), all naval vessels from the Dominion are to be withdrawn and returned to the front to wage war against Danneland. We do, however, stand by our actions in this territory and will continue our campaign against all communist nations in the future.
Communist Louisiana
04-08-2004, 15:24
TO: The Class A Cows
FROM: Premier Jindal

We WILL NOT withdraw our offer. This nation has the right to sell what ever it deems "profitable". We still have our offer open to Vanderov and we will not close it. If you would like to "attemp" to blockade my coast, then try, but I do warn you that you WILL loose many ships if they enter the Gulf of Mexico. Your forces would be surrounded by some 4 different Communist nations who would launch strikes against anyone who has hostilities with their allies.
Dumpsterdam
04-08-2004, 15:34
OC: My ally Mexica Union borders on the gulf of Mexico so you've been letting DRN warships in and out, wether you like it or not.
Communist Louisiana
04-08-2004, 15:38
I dont respond to Mexican Union. If not mistaken, Aztec National League has claimed all of Mexico and Central America longer so I view him as controller of Mexico. Sorry....
Dumpsterdam
04-08-2004, 15:55
OC: *Shrugs* not that I care that much about the RL world in NS. So I've been going in and out of the gulf of mexico, depends on wich gulf I'm talking about then eh? ;)
Communist Louisiana
04-08-2004, 17:31
OCC: Si!
The Class A Cows
05-08-2004, 00:42
TO: The Class A Cows
FROM: Premier Jindal

We WILL NOT withdraw our offer. This nation has the right to sell what ever it deems "profitable". We still have our offer open to Vanderov and we will not close it. If you would like to "attemp" to blockade my coast, then try, but I do warn you that you WILL loose many ships if they enter the Gulf of Mexico. Your forces would be surrounded by some 4 different Communist nations who would launch strikes against anyone who has hostilities with their allies.

You were never threatened with a blockade, only a trade embargo. Vanderov was threatened with a total trade barrier as we do not trust small nations with underdeveloped security to have weapons of mass extermination and harm, regardless of ideology. Should Vanderov accept your offer we will act quickly to destroy Vanderov infrastructure for executing the trade and governing the nation. If you withdraw the offer or if Vanderov refuses no actions will be taken.
Vanderov
08-08-2004, 21:26
To : Communist Louisiana

I accept your proposal. If you are blocked or attacked then you will expect my forces to help.

To : Anyone who has a ship in blockaid of my country.

I have sunken 3 ships and 1 submarine (survivors were broght to shore and executed), Shot down 5 aircraft, and re-taken my airport and kicked Lasatania out!

The great nation of Vanderov is no longer just gonna look at the forums! I am taking action! Dresdenitania is sending 3 divisions of the Republican guard[300,000 poeple], Warsaw Pact (My Region) fleet is on immediate alert [25,000 personel, 31 ships (6 carriers 2 battleships 2 heavy cruisers 1 light cruisers 9 destroyers 3 submarines 8 tankers) they are stronger than they sound] Dresdenitania is sending 12 missile boats,6 cruise missile subs,4 ballistic missile subs, 700 aircraft (navy), and they are placing all missiles on high alert.

Comrade Vanderov
Founder & president of the ICASO
SMASH CAPITOLISM

P.S.
Whoever called me a Capitalist Pig....You can kiss my A$$!

"Capitalists Are Full Of Crap, Dont Fall In The Trap"
Communist Louisiana
08-08-2004, 21:47
Our fleets are on their way. Any hostility against my fleets or the Vandrov company will be seen as an attack on Louisiana Strategic Works and on Communist Louisiana and will be dealt with by a complete and total retaliation(sp?).


9th Red Fleet

3 Infusion Class Carriers
x100 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter's
x75 F-117A Nighthawk's
x25 S-3B Viking's
x100 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel's

15 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
5 Silencer Class Submarine's

10 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's

10 Iowa Class Battleship's
20 Tidal class Battleship's
Dumpsterdam
09-08-2004, 20:56
OC: Vanderov, that was OC ;)

And if you start firing at navel vessles that are in international waters, suspect big shit coming your way, so you might want to reconsider that.

So far I have on you:
Trying to sell nuclear weapons to unstable nations.
Favoring military action over diplomatic talks.
Firing on blockading vessles in international waters.
Gross violation of the treaty of the Geneve Convention.

This would warrant enough for me get an alliance behind me.
Communist Louisiana
10-08-2004, 02:17
I would like to remind you Dumpsterdam that Vandrov's company is now considered a Louisianaian Company. Any attack on it will be the same as an attack on Louisiana. We do not plan to fire upon any ships unless if engaged first. We do have the right to protect ourselves and we will to the fullest of our arsenal if nessecary.

We would also like to point out that nations do not have agree to the Geneve convention. The Japanesse in WWII didnt and neither does any other nation who wishes not to.
Miratha
10-08-2004, 02:56
The Aequatian Republic feels that it is our duty as a free nation and nuclear power to prevent the proliferation of nuclear warheads and delivery systems around the world, and especially to unstable communist nations.

The Aequatian Navy will be enacting a blockade of the Federation of Vanderov with the deployment of Task Force Warspite. These forces will ensure that your nation does not trade in arms or weapons of mass destruction and shall remain mobilized until you decide to cease your actions.

Any aircraft or vessels, military or civilian, that try to enter the nation of Vanderov will be fired upon and eliminated until we withdraw our forces.

Task Force Warspite, Southern Fleet
- RNS Warspite (CVN-6), Formidable Class Fleet Carrier
- RNS Implacable (BBN-17), Invincible Class Battleship
- RNS Odyssey (CGN-8), Excalibur Class Guided-Missile Cruiser
- RNS Venture (CGN-9), Excalibur Class Guided-Missile Cruiser
- 10th Flotilla, Guardian Class Guided-Missile Destroyers
RNS Griffon (DDG-19)
RNS Typhoon (DDG-20)
RNS Warrior (DDG-21)
- 20th Flotilla, Liberty II Class Destroyers
RNS Tornado (DD-25)
RNS Stalwart (DD-26)
RNS Pathfinder (DD-27)
- RNS Carrie (AOE-3), Supply Class Fast Combat Support Ship
- RNS Espandor (SSN-8), Seawolf Class Fleet Submarine
- RNS Verdan (SSN-9), Seawolf Class Fleet Submarine

International Support Group

Dumpsterdan
- DRN Amstel, Karel Doorman Class Frigates
- DRN Indonesia, Karel Doorman Class Frigates
Why the hell does someone ALWAYS have to be messing with storefronts!? These are under-the-counter black market operations here. Most nations wouldn't even know about them.
Dumpsterdam
10-08-2004, 15:43
OC: Because I'm realy good at seeing an idiot selling ICMB's and WMD to unstable communist nations ;) If you didn't figure it out, I'm not too keen on communist nations.

IC: Dumpsterdanian blockade vessles and the like are in international waters and any attack on them will unleash full scale deployment of our forces.
We only wish the sale of WMD's and ICMB's to be controlled, if that can be done by CL then we will withdraw our forces and keep a weary eye on the entire situation.

OC: CL, I'm ignoring Vanderov's attack since he doesn't know wat he's doing but your responsible for him now and just stick to the rules and we'll have no problems; no WMD's or ICMB's to nations under the 100 million and younger then 1 month, no selling to terrrorist nations.
Communist Louisiana
10-08-2004, 16:27
OCC: I wont sell nuclear weapons to nations older than two months. But I will sell launch systems, launch platforms, biological weapons, and ICBM missiles them selves without the warheads. PLUS something big is about to happen to Louisiana Strtegic Works.
Dumpsterdam
12-08-2004, 17:52
OOC: Okay, sounds good...keep vanderov in line otherwise its down the drain with his paranoid dictator.
Miratha
12-08-2004, 18:52
OC: Because I'm realy good at seeing an idiot selling ICMB's and WMD to unstable communist nations ;) If you didn't figure it out, I'm not too keen on communist nations.

IC: Dumpsterdanian blockade vessles and the like are in international waters and any attack on them will unleash full scale deployment of our forces.
We only wish the sale of WMD's and ICMB's to be controlled, if that can be done by CL then we will withdraw our forces and keep a weary eye on the entire situation.

OC: CL, I'm ignoring Vanderov's attack since he doesn't know wat he's doing but your responsible for him now and just stick to the rules and we'll have no problems; no WMD's or ICMB's to nations under the 100 million and younger then 1 month, no selling to terrrorist nations.
OOC: Nah, see here, Storefronts are an abstract concept. It represents negotiations, haggling and (this is the key one) secret deals. Basically, a storefront skips all that in the form of a no-questions-asked delivery service. Even so, all the steps are still there, but they have little relevance because you're not actively using them; thus, they are not noticed; I constantly haggle for cheaper prices, multi-year payments and so on. That explains why storefronts are so quick; now, to explain the element of secrecy, Vanderov would probably have just told all the communist nations without alerting everyone else. That's one of the shortcomings of message boards; no privacy. Even so, you have to understand the parallels to our world. See, if a thread says "Communist Nations Look here," he probably isn't intending to get extremist capitalist nations in the know without first making sure they are heinously corrupt. See my point? He'd never let ya know.
Also, the rules you have laid out are abstract as well. Certainly, terrorist nations have ways of getting their own weapons and new nations shouldn't have any problem at all if they have money. Ever heard of a "Straw Dealer?" They sell firearms to convicts, people without licenses and people under the age limit. Vanderov and other (even real life) nations do this all the time.
Dumpsterdam
12-08-2004, 19:02
OOC: Well thats not my problem is it? If he didn't put it in his first post ;) Besides, situation is resolved so you don't have to go at me at the last possible second. :)
Miratha
13-08-2004, 00:04
OOC: Well thats not my problem is it? If he didn't put it in his first post ;) Besides, situation is resolved so you don't have to go at me at the last possible second. :)
Situation may be resolved, but it'll happen again. It always happens.
And he didn't put it in his first post, but he put it in the damn title. What, did you just randomly click around and you happened to get here accidentally?
Dumpsterdam
13-08-2004, 10:10
Actualy...yes, I tried to get on the thread to the Ring Wing Alliance and randomly clicked something that said: ---Communist--- since I know that word is in it. Stupid no? ;)
Vanderov
14-08-2004, 17:04
Dumpsterdam, Dresdenitania and I have launched an air campaign and a strategical ground campaign on your country. We have blown up most ships in your biggest harbor and captured three vessels and are now on their way to Vanderov. Dresdenitanian Forces have assinated your president :sniper: and have seized your capital building and your forces are trying to strike back but we are holding them off for the most part. Son WE DO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING! Communist Louisianna isnt in charge of me but he is an ally and he does have forces in my country. I dont go along with the Geneva Convention by the way! I do what I want and when the hell I want to. LET NOBODY BE IN CONTROL OF ME! now if you will back off and drop all you little "charges" then we will leave your humble establishment, but keep your ships. We have 2 battleshipe and 1 carrier.

Comrade Vanderov :mp5: :mp5:
Core Leader of the ICASO
SMASH CAPITALISM
Dregruk
14-08-2004, 17:16
OOC: I just had a quick looksee at this for the sheer hell of it, and Vanderov... jeez. Mega-godmod. Do you really expect to be taken seriously by doing something like that?
Dumpsterdam
14-08-2004, 17:28
This wasn't a problem anymore Vanderov, YOU are making yourself a problem to me now, I take care of problems in a very messy way, go home and come back when you can RP properly.
Vanderov
14-08-2004, 17:54
Listen its not my forces is dresdenitanian forces...i only have about 500 men in it! :headbang:
Dumpsterdam
14-08-2004, 17:57
Then let the guy come forward and post it himself.....
Vanderov
14-08-2004, 18:38
The "guy" is in my dorm room.....we go to college together! We go to U of M(michigan).
Dumpsterdam
15-08-2004, 00:26
And? Let him log in and post it himself....its like saying that me and HP are best buddies and live together, so if I say he does anything its true ;)

Seriously, thats not the way that I work.
Kedcre
15-08-2004, 01:13
Kedcre is opposed to the nations supporting a blockade of Vanderov!

This is an injustice!

To our friends in Vanderov, In what way may Kedcre assist your nation? Kedcre is not interested in going to war at the moment. Our military consists of 60,000 and Our nation has 15.5 billion dollars (108.5 billion kedcredian sea shells) in its national treasury.

Also, if Vanderov is interested it is welcome to join The Union of Totalitarian Rule.
Dumpsterdam
15-08-2004, 11:31
Kedcre is opposed to the nations supporting a blockade of Vanderov!

This is an injustice!

To our friends in Vanderov, In what way may Kedcre assist your nation? Kedcre is not interested in going to war at the moment. Our military consists of 60,000 and Our nation has 15.5 billion dollars (108.5 billion kedcredian sea shells) in its national treasury.

Also, if Vanderov is interested it is welcome to join The Union of Totalitarian Rule.

Wat blockade? I already stated that this was no longer a problem and I am to lazy to RP it.
Dregruk
15-08-2004, 11:52
I'm guessing he read the first few pages and then decided to join in from there.
Dumpsterdam
15-08-2004, 11:55
I'm guessing he read the first few pages and then decided to join in from there.

As usual....*sighs* realy kids, go home or I'm going to have to hurt you and then it doesn't matter how many allies you have.
Vanderov
19-08-2004, 18:53
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Vanderov thanks Kedcre. Help anyway you want.

As for dumpsterdam, It has come to my thoughts that you are scared to let communists have WMD's. You need to just let me run my business b/c you havent even put a dent in it! You have only merely scratched the business!
You are digging a big ass hole for yourself! Best for you to just back away and no offense will be taken and your ships returned. I have Eight (8) WMD's aimed at you now and they are on high alert...BTW dont try to look for them b/c you wont find them. One more piss off from you and total devistation will be delivered.

Comrade's near and abroad, Dumpsterdam and others are in some deep shit and I will take action, but DO NOT try to stop me b/c it will not work. They have Repeatedly tried to stop this business of mine and im fucking tired of it. Once and for all I will deliver a "SHUT THE FUCK UP" attack upon Capitalists abroad...

PREPARE FOR WAR COMMUNIST COMRADES!

Comrade Vanderov
Coreleader of the ICASO
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!
Dumpsterdam
19-08-2004, 20:21
Look kiddo, I'm no longer in your waters(never was) and my ship have gone home(to lazy to put effort in you realy, so no RP'ing).


As for dumpsterdam, It has come to my thoughts that you are scared to let communists have WMD's.

No not realy, I just don't want ANY young country running around with WMD's

You need to just let me run my business b/c you havent even put a dent in it! You have only merely scratched the business!

Oh realy? Go ahead and sell, just don't bother me when an alliance force comes nocking down your door for you selling a nuke to a 1 day old country who then proceeded to nuking the crap out of someone.

You are digging a big ass hole for yourself!

Excuse me? Go home if you can only insult people.


Best for you to just back away and no offense will be taken and your ships returned.

Wich ships? Oh right...the one's that are already home, got ya.


I have Eight (8) WMD's aimed at you now and they are on high alert...BTW dont try to look for them b/c you wont find them. One more piss off from you and total devistation will be delivered.

Nice godmod or your totaly bluffing, well I'll just take that as a threat to my homeland security.

Comrade's near and abroad, Dumpsterdam and others are in some deep shit and I will take action, but DO NOT try to stop me b/c it will not work. They have Repeatedly tried to stop this business of mine and im fucking tired of it. Once and for all I will deliver a "SHUT THE FUCK UP" attack upon Capitalists abroad...

Watch your language, kids visit these forums too.

PREPARE FOR WAR COMMUNIST COMRADES!

Have a nice day, with compliments from Dumpsterdam Missle Controll.