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Revolutionary Technology: The Trotsky-class CVN II

Communist Rule
30-07-2004, 20:59
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General Characteristics--

Builder: Island States

Power Plant: Seven nuclear reactors. Eight Shafts (Four azipods for Port Maneuvering)

Length, overall: 1,692 feet

Flight Deck Width: Approx. 800 feet

Displacement: Approx. 250,000 tons full load

Speed: 20+ knots

Aircraft: -Battle Compliment: ~170 -Support Compliment: ~100

Cost: about $25 billion each

Hull Features:
Pontoon Design
Prairie/Masker System
Side-scanning Sonar

Missiles:
Surface-to-Air Missile 12 x Raytheon GMLS Mk 29 8-cell launchers for SeaSparrow

Guns
20 x Phalanx Mk 15 CIWS/Kahstan-M

Aircraft:
Fixed-wing: 40 x F-14D, 60 x F/A-18, 6 x E-2C Hawkeye, 6 x EA -6B Prowler, 6 x S-3B Viking, 2 x ES-3A Shadow
Helicopters 8 x SH-60F, 8 x HH-60H Seahawk

Flight Deck System:
EARS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Recovery System)
EMALS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launching System)

Combat data system:
2x Isolated, Redundant ACDS Block 0 or Block 1

Ship Defense System:
2x Isolated, Redundant SSDS Mk2 Mod 0

Weapons control:
12 x Mk 91 Mod 1 fire control system (for Seasparrow missile)

Countermeasures:
2x, Isolated and Redundant ESM AN/SLQ-32(V)4

Decoys:
32 x SRBOC
SSTDS torpedo defence system
AN/SLQ-25 Nixie torpedo decoy

Radar: (2x, Isolated, Redundant)
Air search ITT AN/SPS-48E E/F band
Raytheon AN/SPS-49(V)5 C/D band
Raytheon Mk 23 TAS D-band

Surface search:
2x, Isolated And Redundant Northrop Grumman AN/SPS-67V G-band

Navigation:
2x, Isolated And Redundant Raytheon AN/SPS-64(V)9 I/J band

Propulsion:
Nuclear--
7 x GE PWR A4W/A1G, 194 MW
8 x emergency diesels, 8 MW

Optional:
Leather Seats
Seat Warmers
Cupholders
OnStar(r)
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 18:17
ub3r-bump
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 19:36
Bump..
Doujin
02-08-2004, 19:38
So this is two hundred feet larger than the Nimitz and it can magically carry 90 more aircrat than the Nimitz can?
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 19:40
Doujin, did you look at the pic?
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 19:40
A: These figures are off, I just noticed, when I transplanted the old information to the new forums.

B: Even as it stands, it could. It is effectively two Nimitz fused together, m'boy. Without having to cram equipment in one hull, they have the ability to configure for maximum hangar space.
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 19:42
I might consider buying one or two.
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 19:43
I might consider selling them when you affirm your wish to buy one. ;)
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 19:46
I shall buy one, but can you replace your CIWS with Kashtan-M? I may make my own modifications and remove the helicopter landing pads at the front for a nice Kiev style Carrier ;)
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 19:48
I may remind you that the CIWS is basically a false defense. The carrier is so large and carries so much valuable equipment that it is designed to sit far away from the conflict, airdropping troops and equipment, or sending large-scale, long-range bombers to attack. However, I can add both system for you. (Keep in mind I'm still updating features, a Surface-to-Surface missile system is being prepared as standard equipment.)
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 19:51
Of course. However I deal with nations that have 700km range Anti-Shipping missiles. Kashtan-M in our opinion is one of the best CIWS out there. If you could fit maybe 50 to 75 VLS tubes on the Ship, we would be very pleased. We will add our own SA-N-14 Radar systems to it, as thats what will be using the VLS tubes.
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 19:54
Order confirmed, the helicopter area has been replaced with schematics for 65 VLS tubes. We will leave wiring for your systems, but add no systems of our own.

Expect 2 years delivery.
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 20:00
Thanks, how much do we owe you?
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 20:04
50 Billion is the price, and for the VLS tubes, tack on 20 million.
Five Civilized Nations
02-08-2004, 20:05
FYI, there is no way for even that carrier to carry an AN-225. Its just too damned big...
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 20:05
Bump
Artitsa
02-08-2004, 20:07
52 Billion has been wired to CR.
Western Asia
02-08-2004, 20:56
#tag
Mental lands
02-08-2004, 21:17
interesting
Doujin
02-08-2004, 21:24
Well, considering the An-225 is 300 ft in width and 280 in length..
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 22:01
FYI, there is no way for even that carrier to carry an AN-225. Its just too damned big...

FYI, Yes, there is. I didn't blindly make this up.

Also, for those who ask the AN-225s must be modified to a certain extent to launch.
Communist Rule
02-08-2004, 22:03
Also, to those that don't believe the AN-225 could be launched, they fail to realize how powerful the aircraft is. You'd think it is slow and heavy, but the reality is that as you watch such a large plane, it appear to be slow due to the immense size of it, moving through the air.
Five Civilized Nations
03-08-2004, 00:15
Well considering it weighs at max 600,000 kg, you're going to put a lot of support under the right side flight deck. And the Nimitz is only 252 feet in width. There is no way you can fit a 300 feet wingspan aircraft on it...
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 01:00
....look At The Damn Picture. -.-
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 02:23
Bump
Jangle Jangle Ridge
03-08-2004, 02:26
I'll buy 20 for 1 trillion USD.
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 02:31
Ordered confirmed. Expect 5 years for full delivery.
Hammerite Sanctur
03-08-2004, 02:32
Ill buy one, 50 Billion wired upon confirmation.
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 02:34
Well, you're a little young. I'll put you on the "Lil' Dictator" payment plan, with you paying 12.5 million a year.
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 03:04
Bump
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 03:48
Bump
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 04:10
Bumpty-bump
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 06:49
Aggressive Bump
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 19:39
-BUMP to the Batman Theme-
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 20:57
BUMP to the Jaws Theme

<Look out>
Communist Rule
03-08-2004, 21:28
Y'know if you play "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards it says "Its fun to smoke marijuana."

BUMP
Communist Rule
04-08-2004, 03:44
If you play "I'm so tired" by the Beatles backwards, you get

"Paul is a dead man. Miss him, miss him, Miss Him!"
Communist Rule
04-08-2004, 21:10
Stairway to Heaven backwards is creepy as hell.

Take this as an informative BUMP
Novvs Atlantis
04-08-2004, 21:22
OOC: Wouldn't these huge ships be GIGANTIC targets?
Western Asia
04-08-2004, 22:13
OOC: Wouldn't these huge ships be GIGANTIC targets?

Yes, with 2x the frontal target area and more than 2.5 times the surface and subsurface target areas...but then again, there's no added signature from the side view. The truth is that if you can properly defend a Nimitz-class then you should be able to properly defend this vessel...
Communist Rule
05-08-2004, 06:44
Yes, with 2x the frontal target area and more than 2.5 times the surface and subsurface target areas...but then again, there's no added signature from the side view. The truth is that if you can properly defend a Nimitz-class then you should be able to properly defend this vessel...

Why thank you for saving me the carpal tunnel syndrome. :)

Yes, he's correct. Its defendable to points.

But you are also correct, its a huge target. This is why I ALWAYS keep this far from battle, using fast attack fleets to attack enemies coupled with planes launched from it. It works wonderfully if you understand how to use it.
Communist Rule
05-08-2004, 21:53
Bump
Scoyle
05-08-2004, 22:18
I would like to purchase one of these. Before you begin to do anything with it I would like to know what kind of options are avalible for purchase.

-----Money Wired Upon Confirmation-----

OOC - I have enough my saved to buy 2 more of these
Communist Rule
06-08-2004, 00:44
Order Confirmed. As far as options, we can customize it as you see fit for more money, the base model stands at 50 billion. Let's assume you want another reactor, we bump it to 50.2 billion. Etc. Hell, if you want to make a battleship-like variant we'll do it, but it'll cost you.
Communist Rule
06-08-2004, 03:11
(bump)
Communist Rule
06-08-2004, 08:58
Bump
Ump
Mp
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Communist Rule
06-08-2004, 19:24
B-u-m-p
Communist Rule
06-08-2004, 21:48
Bump..
Nycton
06-08-2004, 22:06
Nycton will take 1 due to the extra spending the Navy has been granted.
*Money wired on confirmation*
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 22:11
Order Confirmed
Communist Rule
08-08-2004, 22:46
Bump
Communist Rule
09-08-2004, 19:13
Don't forget it has cupholders. Bump.
Arizona and Iowa
29-08-2004, 23:33
occ: Sorry It took so long to answer

IC: I would like to have it as fast as you can make it. Money is only an issue if the price exceeds 1/2 a trillion dollars.
Communist Rule
30-08-2004, 01:27
Order Confirmed..:S
Scoyle
03-09-2004, 04:54
.::ßü/v\þ::.
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 01:50
Reviving this thread because it's my only piece of equipment I ever made that sold.

AKA BUMP
Usea-Jason
15-06-2006, 01:57
Can it be used with aircraft that don't use steam catipults,like the Sukhoi Su-30mk1?
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 02:02
Can it be used with aircraft that don't use steam catipults,like the Sukhoi Su-30mk1?

As you might have noticed, it now reads "Electromagnetic catapults." You can use any aircraft that has the ability to take off in the length of the runway or it must be fitted to the ELS.
Usea-Jason
15-06-2006, 02:04
(oh sorry,did't see that.And I like the pic that you had with.)
Leafanistan
15-06-2006, 02:08
I still have concerns it can't launch the An-225, it isn't configured for STOL.

Are you assuming JATOs or something?
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 02:25
I still have concerns it can't launch the An-225, it isn't configured for STOL.

Are you assuming JATOs or something?

The AN-225s used aboard the Trotsky's are utilize JATO, thrusters similar to the C-17 Globemaster, and more efficient engines.
Leafanistan
15-06-2006, 02:52
The AN-225s used aboard the Trotsky's are utilize JATO, thrusters similar to the C-17 Globemaster, and more efficient engines.

I guessed that much, I'll strongly consider such an order, but first I have to see whether or not I can it'll fit in my strategy and if my fleets can suport such a vessel.
Usea-Jason
15-06-2006, 03:31
THis may be the thing to replace Usea's SDC's(Super dreadnaught Carriers)
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 05:33
The Trotsky-class CVN II is well-suited to being part of major fleets, and especially in support of amphibious invasion or relief missions.

The Trotsky-class CVN II is, however, NOT meant to respond with a small fleet to disaster sites. It is extremely vulnerable, as are most aircraft carriers. However, the Trotsky is relatively small for its mission, and does not pose a significant threat if it is in foreign waters. It's primary weapon is its long-reaching aircraft.

The Trotsky is capable of launching modified B-1, B-2, TU-160, and TU-22M bombers. With that kind of reach, plus the range of their anti-ship missiles, the Trotsky is capable of an incredibly long strike.
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 20:45
BUMP for prospective customers.
Communist Rule
16-06-2006, 20:08
The Trotsky is still for sale. Buy Now.