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International War Crimes Tribunal

Whittier-
30-07-2004, 02:42
The court will be composed as soon as we can find seven neutral nations to act as judges.
In the first case, Ruthless Slaughter is being charged with the crime of dropping 3 nukes on heavily populated civilian areas.
Canan
30-07-2004, 02:48
Where will this take place? I have an International Court in the capital, but you might want it on neutral ground.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 02:50
Where will this take place? I have an International Court in the capital, but you might want it on neutral ground.
Neutral Ground of a nation that did not partake in the war. Perhaps that Kroton guy.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 02:50
weapons-tech would like to guard the court precidings. free of course killing civilians is not right (unless they started it)
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 02:50
I doubt he would stand trial in a foriegn country.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 02:54
then how about in our auditurium we can seat over 1 million people in it. plus we have the best in automated defences. that should be enough to house the court
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 02:54
With all due respect, I would like the trial to take place at The Great Hall of C A D. All citizens will be barred from the building, and neutral parties can feel free to guard the installation as they fit. Please, if I'm to be convicted of anything, I would prefer it on my home soil. I would also like to add that the areas I hit with nukes also had rather large military bases on them as well. Civilians are NEVER a target of my military unless they try to bring harm to my troops, like when those Hatarian civilians came charging out with pithforks and whatnot.
Canan
30-07-2004, 02:54
Doomingsland, for now on all your posts in this thread will be ignored by me, because you have no reason to be participating in it besides the fact a nation from an alliance you are in is being charged.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 02:55
our offer stands
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 02:57
I'll send a guy to watch the trial.
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 02:59
Actually, Doomingsland did deploy troops on the earlier pages of the thread, a pretty long list, actually. As I recall, he did fight for one piece of Hataria before Whittier announced that no nations would take pieces of the nation as spoils of war. If you can't find the list, then I would like him as a witness to speak on my behalf. Sorry Doomingsland, but the legal battlefield is more of my strongpoint.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 03:00
so where will this take place, i need to know so i can send the guards., unless we are going to do this with our place.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:01
I am alright with allowing Ruthless Slaughter's trials take place in the alleigance's halls, but it must be strictley a private affair. Only members of the tribunal, as well as whittier and I and the defendant shall be allowed inside.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:01
I guess its taking place were RS said...
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:02
Actually, Doomingsland did deploy troops on the earlier pages of the thread, a pretty long list, actually. As I recall, he did fight for one piece of Hataria before Whittier announced that no nations would take pieces of the nation as spoils of war. If you can't find the list, then I would like him as a witness to speak on my behalf. Sorry Doomingsland, but the legal battlefield is more of my strongpoint.
Doomingsland getting part of Hataria was not part of the peace treaty.
If Canan and Hataria want Doomingsland troops removed, Whittier will assist them.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:03
My guys left a long time ago.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:03
I am alright with allowing Ruthless Slaughter's trials take place in the alleigance's halls, but it must be strictley a private affair. Only members of the tribunal, as well as whittier and I and the defendant shall be allowed inside.
yes
doomingsland may act as defense attorny for the defendant.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 03:03
so send guards to THE GREAT HALL Of C A D
ok
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:04
I would like to apply as a neutral nation as I had nothing to do with this war.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:04
I retract my statement. Doomingsland your posts will not be ignored I guesse.

Ruthless, You dont really get much of an advantage since the panel of judges will be from neutral soil. also we still need the panel of judges, Im not sure if there are any yet.

Whittier-Are you acting as prosecutor? If so i will play your intern (ill find things for you etc.) I know some law, but not enough to convict someone.
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 03:04
We have homefield advantage, and I suggest we begin the trial tomorrow night at 7 PM eastern. It gives eveyone more than enough time to gather thoughts and put cases together. I would also like to request that leaders of C A D's nations observe, but not speak.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:05
Yay! An RP where I DON'T kill people!
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:05
I would like to apply as a neutral nation as I had nothing to do with this war.

great, you are appointed to be one of the seven judges
we just need six more.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:06
We have homefield advantage, and I suggest we begin the trial tomorrow night at 7 PM eastern. It gives eveyone more than enough time to gather thoughts and put cases together. I would also like to request that leaders of C A D's nations observe, but not speak.
We can start when we get the full court of seven judges.
Todate, we have only one judge.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:07
Seven judges is gonna take too long to get, how about three or five?
Marak
30-07-2004, 03:07
I would like to apply as another neutral nation.
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 03:07
You may assemble the panel if you wish. I will return tomorrow at 7PM eastern time for the trial.
Antor
30-07-2004, 03:08
Antor would also like to apply.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:08
I would like to apply as another neutral nation.
Approved.
Talthia
30-07-2004, 03:09
Talthia would like to apply as a neutral nation in this Tribunal. We followed the events on Hataria closely and are anxious for justice to be served.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:09
You may assemble the panel if you wish. I will return tomorrow at 7PM eastern time for the trial.
Agreed
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:09
Antor would also like to apply.
approved
Dr_Twist
30-07-2004, 03:09
As a large Well Respected Nation Throughout NS the Dr_Twist Government would like to Apply.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:10
Talthia would like to apply as a neutral nation in this Tribunal. We followed the events on Hataria closely and are anxious for justice to be served.
You have been approved to join the panel.
I believe we have four judges. We just need 3 more.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:11
As a large Well Respected Nation Throughout NS the Dr_Twist Government would like to Apply.

The esteemed government of Dr. Twist is especially appointed to the panel.
And welcome back.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:12
Dr_Twist, you are a member of The Whittier Pact, correct?
Global Cortex
30-07-2004, 03:13
global cortex would like to apply
we have absolutly no idea whats going on so we are very neutal
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:17
global cortex would like to apply
we have absolutly no idea whats going on so we are very neutal
approved.
well that was fast, we only need one more judge.
Who was it that said it would take for ever to get 7 judges?
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 03:17
For the convienience of my attorney, Doomingsland, I do my best to show up an hour earlier at 6PM eastern. If I arrive later, I'll catch up and continue from there. I will cooperate to the best of my abilities.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:18
Dr_Twist, you are a member of The Whittier Pact, correct?
He wasn't involved in the war. So he counts as a neutral.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:19
I know (i'm doing the website, remember? Member list....)
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:19
For the convienience of my attorney, Doomingsland, I do my best to show up an hour earlier at 6PM eastern. If I arrive later, I'll catch up and continue from there. I will cooperate to the best of my abilities.
We would like a list of all officials involved with ordering the use of nuclear weapons. We don't intend to hold your whole nation responsible only those who gave the orders and those who pushed the button.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:19
Free donuts will be provided at the trial for all involved.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:20
I know (i'm doing the website, remember? Member list....)
ok, I ejected the entire moon region from the alliance btw, cause their founder is a noob.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:20
Free donuts will be provided at the trial for all involved.
Hey, no bribery allowed.
Global Cortex
30-07-2004, 03:21
jelly filled plz
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:21
Occ: I just now put two and one together and figured out that his is like Neurumburg (sp?) Man, I need to get back to school. lol.
Dr_Twist
30-07-2004, 03:22
Dr_Twist, you are a member of The Whittier Pact, correct?

Technically i am not in the Pact i am an Allie.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:22
Whittier, you should change this to an Occ thread, because we will have more than four pages filled up before we start the trial.
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:23
Occ: I just now put two and one together and figured out that his is like Neurumburg (sp?) Man, I need to get back to school. lol.

Hopefully with less executions :)
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 03:24
Trust me, it's not bribery. Check for laxatives before you eat them. And I wish to be tried as a nation. We are a unified people and will be treated as such.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:24
Damnit, i'll tell you what... If you're reading this and you are a member of The Whittier Pact, go to The Whittier Pact Forums (http://thewhittierpact.proboards12.com/index.cgi) and sign up. Only those of The Whittier Pact that signed up for this forum will be on the member list on the upcoming site.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 03:25
ROFL that would be funny if you sentenced his leader to death.
Dr_Twist
30-07-2004, 03:26
Damnit, i'll tell you what... If you're reasing this and you are a member of The Whittier Pact, go to The Whittier Pact Forums (http://thewhittierpact.proboards12.com/index.cgi) and sign up. Only those of Thw Whittier Pact that signed up for this forum will be on the member list on the upcoming site.

I anit a member of the Pact but i am sure Whitter will be more then happy with me having an account :P
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:26
I retract my statement. Doomingsland your posts will not be ignored I guesse.

Ruthless, You dont really get much of an advantage since the panel of judges will be from neutral soil. also we still need the panel of judges, Im not sure if there are any yet.

Whittier-Are you acting as prosecutor? If so i will play your intern (ill find things for you etc.) I know some law, but not enough to convict someone.
yes. what time zone are we using?
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:27
ROFL that would be funny if you sentenced his leader to death.

Nah, more like tragic and hard to enforce.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:27
go ahead... i have no objection, Twist
Global Cortex
30-07-2004, 03:27
i am not a menber and will not be to presreve our neutaliltiy
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:27
We have homefield advantage, and I suggest we begin the trial tomorrow night at 7 PM eastern. It gives eveyone more than enough time to gather thoughts and put cases together. I would also like to request that leaders of C A D's nations observe, but not speak.
oh no, I have to work till 9pm pacific tommorrow.
In that case, Canan can act as prosecutor.
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:27
ROFL that would be funny if you sentenced his leader to death.

yes it would be preety funny especial as the rest of the country would have to suffer the same fate as they want to be tryed as a whole:)
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:29
yes. what time zone are we using?

Im in Eastern time zone (-5:00 GMT I think)
Global Cortex
30-07-2004, 03:30
very difficult to do.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:30
I anit a member of the Pact but i am sure Whitter will be more then happy with me having an account :P
nah, no problem, he's an independent ally. but he can have an account.
Our alliance goes back a ways. As does our alliance with RF, another independent ally.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:32
oh no, I have to work till 9pm pacific tommorrow.
In that case, Canan can act as prosecutor.


Well I can act as prosecutor, but Whittier can you tell me what I should be doing? I havent done a mock trial since the sixth grade. ( I was in an advanced class for the district's smart students)
Communist Mississippi
30-07-2004, 03:33
"I hereby find that this court is a joke and it means nothing to Mississippi."-

Victoria Fabus, daughter of premier and deputy minister of the People’s Justice Department.


Victoria Fabus (18) A daughter of the Premier serves as a Deputy Minister of Justice for the People’s Justice Department (It’s just a kangaroo court). Also she serves as a diplomat in the department of foreign relations.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:33
would it be possible to push the trial back, till like around 10 PM Eastern?
Talthia
30-07-2004, 03:33
So a judges job is to decide on a guilty/not guilty verdict and if guilty agree to a punishment?
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 03:35
So a judges job is to decide on a guilty/not guilty verdict and if guilty agree to a punishment?
yes
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:35
So a judges job is to decide on a guilty/not guilty verdict and if guilty agree to a punishment?

pretty much, yeah.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:36
"I hereby find that this court is a joke and it means nothing to Mississippi."-

Victoria Fabus, daughter of premier and deputy minister of the People’s Justice Department.


Victoria Fabus (18) A daughter of the Premier serves as a Deputy Minister of Justice for the People’s Justice Department (It’s just a kangaroo court). Also she serves as a diplomat in the department of foreign relations.

Dont talk you ignorant peice of garbage. No one cares what you think.
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:36
Dont talk you ignorant peice of garbage. No one cares what you think.

that needed to be said :D
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:36
"I hereby find that this court is a joke and it means nothing to Mississippi."-

Victoria Fabus, daughter of premier and deputy minister of the People’s Justice Department.


Victoria Fabus (18) A daughter of the Premier serves as a Deputy Minister of Justice for the People’s Justice Department (It’s just a kangaroo court). Also she serves as a diplomat in the department of foreign relations.
CM, i'm getting sick of your dumbass remarks...
Communist Mississippi
30-07-2004, 03:41
I excelled in my old high school business law classes and I am well versed in law.

I ask to be the attorney for the accused.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 03:43
Objection!!
Mental lands
30-07-2004, 03:44
I excelled in my old high school business law classes and I am well versed in law.

I ask to be the attorney for the accused.

he already has one
Dr_Twist
30-07-2004, 03:44
Can we please keep the to Topic.... If people wanna bitch to each other keep it to other things but leave it from the thread.
Canan
30-07-2004, 03:47
He has already got an attorney, and he does not need another one. therfore I am kindly asking you to stay out of this thread. Please.
Communist Mississippi
30-07-2004, 03:49
he already has one

I can be the Co-counsel for the defense.
Weapons-Tech incorp
30-07-2004, 03:49
your acting like children act like you have some sense plz
Communist Mississippi
30-07-2004, 03:50
He has already got an attorney, and he does not need another one. therfore I am kindly asking you to stay out of this thread. Please.


This is whittier's thread. You just don't like me. I'm talking to whittier right now via yahoo. If he wants me out of this, I'll stay out. But I won't listen to the likes of you. It's not your RP. It's whittiers RP, and his say is final.
Farflung
30-07-2004, 03:57
if you still need judges ,Farflung will be honored to send someone if you like.
Canan
30-07-2004, 04:00
Well you can tell whittier that if he allows you to be co counsul then I am ofiicialy ignoring this thread. And dont talk down to me like your so high and mighty you ass.
Vendi
30-07-2004, 04:01
If your court is still in need of judges, Vendi will send an esteemed judge to preside over the tribunal.

Yours In Cooperation,
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister Of Vendi
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:11
If your court is still in need of judges, Vendi will send an esteemed judge to preside over the tribunal.

Yours In Cooperation,
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister Of Vendi
You are appointed to be judge.
In the matter of CM being defense for RS. RS has already been provided with a defense. Doomingsland will provide defense for RS.
Canan will prosecute.
If they have questions on law, Whittier will advise.
The laws of human rights and international conventions are different from the laws of business and are enforced differently.


This decision is final, any gripes between Canan and CM don't belong in this rp.
Any further outburst or posts by either of them that not related to rp will cause them to booted from this rp.
Communist Mississippi
30-07-2004, 04:11
Well you can tell whittier that if he allows you to be co counsul then I am ofiicialy ignoring this thread. And dont talk down to me like your so high and mighty you ass.


What a lose, he'd be losing somebody as great as you, and somebody who is so skilled with words that they must resort to petty insults. My I hope if you ever get into armed combat (like if they bring back the draft) you are more skilled with the rifle than you are with the tongue, the pen, and the keyboard. (Usually people who type poor insults also write poor insults and articulate poor insults)

I talk down to those who need talking down to. I wasn't talking down to you though, not then. But rest assured, I shall henceforth talk down to you every time the opportunity presents itself. Actually I'm just going to ignore you.
Canan
30-07-2004, 04:14
So Whittier do we have enough judges?
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 04:15
Canan, go to our forums...
Atsuma
30-07-2004, 04:18
If still needed, the Protectorate of Atsuma would gladly send a delegate to act as a judge in this international court.

-Directorate Hollings, Head Consul of International Relations
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:19
The Judges for the panel are:
Mental Lands, Marak, Antor, Talthia, Dr. Twist, Global Cortex, Farflung, vendi, and Atsuna.
Unless Global Cortex has resigned, we do indeed a the requiered qourom of seven judges for the panel.
The trial may proceed.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:19
If still needed, the Protectorate of Atsuma would gladly send a delegate to act as a judge in this international court.

-Directorate Hollings, Head Consul of International Relations
accepted.
Canan
30-07-2004, 04:20
Occ Im there what do I do?

Whittier, I still really think that you should turn this into an occ thread, with my inappropriate behavior and all the occ comments going on here it will be hard to follow. Ill make the Ic thread about half an hour before the trial if you do.
Canan
30-07-2004, 04:22
The Judges for the panel are:
Mental Lands, Marak, Antor, Talthia, Dr. Twist, Global Cortex, Farflung, and Atsuna.
Unless Global Cortex has resigned, we do indeed a the requiered qourom of seven judges for the panel.
The trial may proceed.

Thats 8.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:26
Occ Im there what do I do?

Whittier, I still really think that you should turn this into an occ thread, with my inappropriate behavior and all the occ comments going on here it will be hard to follow. Ill make the Ic thread about half an hour before the trial if you do.
I'll go ask the mods to split the topic.
Vendi
30-07-2004, 04:29
Are you not requesting a judge from Vendi then?
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:32
Are you not requesting a judge from Vendi then?
Yeah, you can be on the tribunal. Are you volunteering?
Vendi
30-07-2004, 04:35
OOC: You said that I could be a judge after I initially volunteered. It's nothing big, if you have a plan go ahead I just wanted to know who was where
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 04:38
OOC: You said that I could be a judge after I initially volunteered. It's nothing big, if you have a plan go ahead I just wanted to know who was where
I fixed the judge post. You're on it.
Atsuma
30-07-2004, 05:07
occ: Canan is right, there are 8 judges <.< is global cortex out?
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 05:20
occ: Canan is right, there are 8 judges <.< is global cortex out?
I don't know. He said something about not being able to maintain neutrality.
I am waiting for his answer.
If he doen't answer by 6am pacific time, he's off the panel.
Vendi
30-07-2004, 05:36
Whittier, while we are very honoured to be on the panel Vendi must question the outcome should the verdict be guilty. Surely the leader won't just turn himself over for sentencing. Are the rest of the nations in attendance ready to enforce the decision the court comes to? I'm sorry if Vendi, being the young nation that it is, is speaking out of turn or place.

Yours In Justice,
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister of Vendi
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 05:39
Whittier, while we are very honoured to be on the panel Vendi must question the outcome should the verdict be guilty. Surely the leader won't just turn himself over for sentencing. Are the rest of the nations in attendance ready to enforce the decision the court comes to? I'm sorry if Vendi, being the young nation that it is, is speaking out of turn or place.

Yours In Justice,
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister of Vendi
not a problem
All nations involved, are pledged to use all means necessary, including military force, to ensure the enforcement of the judges' decision.
You should be advised that after RS, we will be placing The Parthians on trial for using bio weapons against civilians.
Vendi
30-07-2004, 05:59
not a problem
All nations involved, are pledged to use all means necessary, including military force, to ensure the enforcement of the judges' decision.
You should be advised that after RS, we will be placing The Parthians on trial for using bio weapons against civilians.


In the interests of clarification, and also the opening of an international dialogue, what are your aims in these tribunals? Do you wish to deter nations from using such methods in warfare? And in that case, do you believe that convicted leaders would target you or any of the involved nations for these tribunals? (OOC: seeing as how users represent their countries and not just their elected leaders, do you think that they would come after you with any means necissary for this? Sorry about the questions, by the way.)

Yours In Cooperation
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister of Vendi
Canan
30-07-2004, 16:20
Well, I can't speak for Whittier or anyone else involved in these trials, but if any member of the court is attacked based on the outcomes of these trials then Canan will come to the aid of the attacked. I beleive the others would also, but again, I cannot speak for them.
Whittier-
30-07-2004, 19:45
Well, I can't speak for Whittier or anyone else involved in these trials, but if any member of the court is attacked based on the outcomes of these trials then Canan will come to the aid of the attacked. I beleive the others would also, but again, I cannot speak for them.
I agree with this.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 20:50
OK, so the trial is taking place at 6 PM EST, right? If not, refresh my memory.
Kroton
30-07-2004, 20:56
I was invited to be a judge by Whitter, I will be here if I am allowed. I have asked for no deletions to be made to the "War on Hataria" thread since it is evidence.
The Wickit Klownz
30-07-2004, 21:15
http://thewhittierpact.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=gen&action=display&num=1091211059

^if all other Whittier Pact nations would please express their opinion on this, it would be most appreciated^
Kroton
30-07-2004, 21:16
There has been a change in plans, I cannot sit as a judge because I am now Hataria's attorney. Hataria is asking for a plea bargin...

[1]$800 billion every year for the next ten years paid in rembersment to the Whitter Pact, but payments begin ONLYafter Hatria is stable enough to pay.
[2]and political and military supervision for 20 years by Canan & Kroton.
[3]Hataria MUST abide by the rules set down by Canan and negotiated by Kroton.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 21:19
Can someone plz tell me what time this is gonna start?!
Grenval
30-07-2004, 21:23
I still cannot get into the WP proboards.
Scimar
30-07-2004, 21:24
I will now vollenter to be a judgeing party if you need any more
Canan
30-07-2004, 21:29
we dont

Koton, That plea Bargain is basically the terms that Hataria agreed to for the aid in rebuilding. And I haven't heard anything about charging Hataria, although he probably will be, but until then I wouldn't make any more statements. we are doing this one person at a time.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 21:36
Will somone plz answer my question?
Canan
30-07-2004, 21:39
I think 7PM Eastern. But Im not totally sure about it. Also it will be a closed RP once it starts, so no occ comments, or ic comments or anything like that unless called apon. Its supposed to be a private hearing.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 21:42
7, I heard 6? We'll have to figure this out. Start the thread now, and say no posting allowd or something.
Canan
30-07-2004, 21:59
Well the Defendant is getting here at 7 pm eastern and making another post two hours early would be stupid as people would post in it regardless of what I say.
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 22:13
Can someone plz tell me what time this is gonna start?!
6PM.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 22:13
Ahh, k.
Ruthless Slaughter
30-07-2004, 22:14
I'm here now if we're ready.
Canan
30-07-2004, 22:15
Alrighty then, never mind.
Canan
30-07-2004, 22:15
Im not sure if all the judges are on.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 22:30
Doesn't matter, they can look at both cases, and decide who wins after its over.
Canan
30-07-2004, 22:34
Well, whatever. Im ready, I think, so if you are ready then I suppose we can get started.
Doomingsland
30-07-2004, 22:35
RS is here, lets start now.
The City of the Moon
30-07-2004, 22:38
I am an ally of CAD and I ask, Whittier, what right do you have to police the world?