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Germania Superior is locked in a bitter struggle with the false Federal Union of Lauterburg and we seek foreign aid. Germania Superior was once part of the Federation, but the evil machinations of political insurgents usurped the crown and established a sham "democracy" in place of our right to the throne of the Old Kingdom. To that end, we have declared ourselves independent of this illegitimate "state" and shall work towards unifying Lauterburg under our divine right to govern while restablishing democracy to the totalitarian monstrosity that was once our fair Kingdom. We will accept aid in any form, provided that remuneration is reasonable.

The nation of Beta Aurigae VII will send aid in the form of $350 billion and 55,000 marines to be placed under the command of the government of Germania Superior until such as this conflict has been resolved.

We donate 50 million ZSM SMGs (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342931&page=1&pp=15) to you and your people. Enjoy!

The Xeraphian Federation has always been willing to come to the aid of nations with legitimate grievences. I would like a little bit of history from you before I consider any action. Briefly, what led to the present situation, and what do you need?

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)

To: Germania Superior
From: Sebastian Ash United Atlantic Islands

The United Atlantic Islands are prepared to send 6 billion Cajons in economic aid, ten SSN "Phantom" Hunter Killer submarines, three "Ghostback" missle submarines, and are also prepared to share Cantonian satellite imagery and technology, to be used at the Germania Superior's disposal. However, the joint Atlantic Islands Parliment has asked before all these actions are dealt, to be provided with a list of former injustices and would like more causes for aid in your struggle.
Sincerley,
President Sebastian Ash
Democratic States of Cantonae

We will give you 200,000 of our newest rifle the
XLT-1
the pic is on my storefronts first post the last link.

Lil' Irelnadia has had it's army standing about doing nothing for far too long. we shall send a expeditionary force of 500 RCI (Robotic Combat Infantry) And if there is enough public support we will send in another 1,000.

OOC: I have a pic. but it's too big.

There is nothing legitimate about this petty "kingdom's" claim to Lauterburger territory. In fact, switch the casus belli the other way around and you'll have the truth. "Germania Superior" is the Lauterburger state of Marburg, a constituent entity of the Federal Republic seized by Royalist insurrectionists bent on restoring an oppressive monarchy with a powerless puppet Reichstag in tow. What the international community is dealing with through these cries for aid are the deceptive manoeuvres of an absolutist titular ruler whose father lost his Crown through a wholly legal abdication of the throne. The Federal Union will not be weakened by the secessionists nor by foreign powers seeking to obtain scraps of international prestige, glory and whatever tangible forms of recompense by aiding a false regime in its aim to reassert tyranny over free individuals.

foreign aid denied.

The Federal Union will not be weakened by the secessionists nor by foreign powers seeking to obtain scraps of international prestige, glory and whatever tangible forms of recompense by aiding a false regime in its aim to reassert tyranny over free individuals.

i don't want to any "tangible forms of recompense" as you call it. all i want to do is help a nation in need. since when did helping someone always have to benifit the helper as well as the person in trouble?

I didn't become a dictator because I knew a whole lot of big fancy diplomatic words I became a dictator because I know what my country needs. My forces will continue they're support until proof of this so called dis-honourable conduct is presented to me in commoner talk.

The people of Rioki have decided that it would be best to intervene in this conflict. We will act as a negotiator between the two nations until an agreement can be reached. We have already earned pristege before the face of this place was changed, and therefore are looking for no glory. We seek only to find the story of both sides and end this conflct in a peaceful manner. Tell each side of the story now. Do not read the story of the other nation. This will conflict in the negotiations and possibly warp the stories. (OOC: I realize that if these two nations are run by the same person in RL, this will be impossible.)

The Federal Union will not tolerate brazen attempts by outside forces to interfere with what is essentially an internal affair. We acknowledge the good intentions of our friends abroad in wanting to help allegedly oppressed peoples, but we can assure you that the Royalist insurrectionists seek only to restore a King whose ardent belief in governance by divine right was the catalyst that led to this unpleasantness in the first place. The Federal Union will not cater to the wishes of foreign states for us to "explain our actions" for we do not believe that any justification is required to re-establish law and order within a nation's borders.

Our objective is to promote peace and economic prosperity with our overseas friends and sincerely hope that the cooperation between our states will not be jeopardised by rash, illogical and thoroughly myopic decision making.

We thank the state of Rioki for their generous offer to mediate the situation, but unfortunately we shall decline the opportunity at this juncture.

Hmpf.

To: Germania Superior
From: President Sebastian Ash United Atlantic Islands

Due to intrest in this situation, the United Atlantic Parliment will deploy one (1) SSN "Phantom" Hunter Killer. If public intrest arises, the rest will be sent.

To: Federal Union of Lauterburg
From: The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

Sir:

Our country, having recently dealt with our own internal conflict and the influx of meddling outsiders, stand ready to offer what little assistance we may in the aid of your just cause.

Vice Governor Julius August

To: The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople
From: Admiral William Mansuco United Atlantic Islands

To the Colony:

The United Atlantic Islands and other nations are simply trying to restore the peace and order to the rightful Germania Superior. Any action taken by another country to hinder this will be viewed as an enemy of the State.
Admiral William Mansuco
Republic of Tict

political insurgents usurped the crown and established a sham "democracy" in place of our right to the throne of the Old Kingdom.

under our divine right to govern while restablishing democracy

In these two excerpts from the plea for help presented by Germania Superior. Serious contradictions are present. He/she speaks of "our divine right to the throne". That doesn't sound like an oppressed people to me. It sounds like a displaced monarch attempting to recreate his/her dominion.

Because of these observations, Squornshelous must support Lauterburg in this conflict, if indeed it comes to that. Hopefully, a peaceful solution can be reached. Military, and Economic aid will now be available to Lauterburg from Squornshelous if requested.

More important matters to attend to.

The Federal Union is disappointed that this issue has garnered so much unwanted attention. We earnestly hope that other states will find reason to be a far better counsel and abandon their dangerous sabre-rattling foreign policies.

The Federal Union will not tolerate brazen attempts by outside forces to interfere with what is essentially an internal affair. We acknowledge the good intentions of our friends abroad in wanting to help allegedly oppressed peoples, but we can assure you that the Royalist insurrectionists seek only to restore a King whose ardent belief in governance by divine right was the catalyst that led to this unpleasantness in the first place. The Federal Union will not cater to the wishes of foreign states for us to "explain our actions" for we do not believe that any justification is required to re-establish law and order within a nation's borders.

Our objective is to promote peace and economic prosperity with our overseas friends and sincerely hope that the cooperation between our states will not be jeopardised by rash, illogical and thoroughly myopic decision making.

We thank the state of Rioki for their generous offer to mediate the situation, but unfortunately we shall decline the opportunity at this juncture.


From the Royal Palace in Xeraph:

1...It would seem to me that the first post of Lauterberg is saying that a people who are yearning for independence are not entitled to that independence. When a nation expresses interest in self-governance, it is the duty of the various established nations of the world to sort out the truth of the sides involved.

2...Xeraph is governed by a king, and we see no problem with this form of government. This situation has ceased being an internal affair due to Germania Superior's request for help in aquiring their independence.

3...We have thus decided to render all possible aid to the fledgling government of Germania Superior in their quest for independent self-governance. Any show of military force against the forces of the Xeraphian Federation will be met with the utmost retaliation.

I have instructed Gen. Strickland, Commander Xeraohian Forces, to begin readiness to deploy naval, air, and land forces to the Germania Superior area.

Updates to follow when GS acknowledges message.


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)

To: The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople
From: Admiral William Mansuco United Atlantic Islands

To the Colony:

The United Atlantic Islands and other nations are simply trying to restore the peace and order to the rightful Germania Superior. Any action taken by another country to hinder this will be viewed as an enemy of the State.
Admiral William Mansuco
Republic of Tict

To: Admiral William Mansuco, United Atlantic Islands
From: Vice Governor Julius August, The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

Sir:

Our nation strongly believes that the internal affairs of sovereign countries should not be interfered with by those in the international community absent exigent circumstances, such as genocide or internal strife threatening the security of neighboring countries. Our nation has no intention of intereceding in this internal dispute without an expressed request from assistance from the leaders of the Federation. Please be advised that if that request should come, our forces will defend themselves with all available means against any attacks.

Vice Governor Julius August
by authority of the citizens of the Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

From the Royal Palace in Xeraph:

1...It would seem to me that the first post of Lauterberg is saying that a people who are yearning for independence are not entitled to that independence. When a nation expresses interest in self-governance, it is the duty of the various established nations of the world to sort out the truth of the sides involved.

2...Xeraph is governed by a king, and we see no problem with this form of government. This situation has ceased being an internal affair due to Germania Superior's request for help in aquiring their independence.

3...We have thus decided to render all possible aid to the fledgling government of Germania Superior in their quest for independent self-governance. Any show of military force against the forces of the Xeraphian Federation will be met with the utmost retaliation.

I have instructed Gen. Strickland, Commander Xeraohian Forces, to begin readiness to deploy naval, air, and land forces to the Germania Superior area.

Updates to follow when GS acknowledges message.


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)

To: Alaric, King of Xeraph
From: Vice Governor Julius August, The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

Your Highness:

Our nation strongly believes that the internal affairs of sovereign countries should not be interfered with by those in the international community absent exigent circumstances, such as genocide or internal strife threatening the security of neighboring countries. Our nation has no intention of intereceding in this internal dispute without an expressed request from assistance from the leaders of the Federation. Please be advised that if that request should come, our forces will defend themselves with all available means against any attacks.

Vice Governor Julius August
by authority of the citizens of the Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

The state of Scotland wishes to aid in this battle against parlimentary democracy, however we are leerey of any alliances with german forces at this time, we currently recognize only Germania Superior as a true nation in this conflict, and are willing to open the door to diplomacy to show your reign shall be different from the fatefull and wrongfull alliance of the past.

OOC: sorry if Germania is not actually germany, Ignore my post if its not.

From the Royal Palace in Xeraph:

1...It would seem to me that the first post of Lauterberg is saying that a people who are yearning for independence are not entitled to that independence. When a nation expresses interest in self-governance, it is the duty of the various established nations of the world to sort out the truth of the sides involved.

2...Xeraph is governed by a king, and we see no problem with this form of government. This situation has ceased being an internal affair due to Germania Superior's request for help in aquiring their independence.

3...We have thus decided to render all possible aid to the fledgling government of Germania Superior in their quest for independent self-governance. Any show of military force against the forces of the Xeraphian Federation will be met with the utmost retaliation.

I have instructed Gen. Strickland, Commander Xeraohian Forces, to begin readiness to deploy naval, air, and land forces to the Germania Superior area.

Updates to follow when GS acknowledges message.


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of the Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)


The Federal Union appreciates the Kingdom of Xeraph's point of view and humbly suggests that His Majesty, King Alaric avoid continuing instigation of rash responses to another state's internal problems. We shall be more than pleased to meet with His Majesty's diplomatic representatives in our capital to resolve outstanding difficulties between our nations. The Union's regional and international allies will also be happy to discuss this inconvenience at the conference table and we are confident that they will do their utmost to convince His Majesty of the errors of his ways.

Alot of big words and fancy phrases where used there so I'm not sure whats going on but I would like to point out that the expedtionary froces Lil' Irelandia has deployed are not waging war on one or the other but have changed their role to a neutral protector of innocence so all LI forces are simply making sure that if this escalates to a military conflict that protection of innocent civilians is provided and attacks that taget these people will be retaliated against and any attacks on LI forces will be seen as an act of war and will be treated as such.

Congressional Decree #1342

After much debate and heated discussion, the Lightning Starian Congress has voted 347-154 to Officially Recognize the Kingdom of Germania Superior. We have also decided to despatch the Third Air Squadron to the Skies of Germania Superior, and we have Decided to give it 3 Ragnarok 8 Attack Frigates and a Highwind Cargo Transport.

The First Air Suqadron Consists of
1 Alexandria Class Battleship
5 Ragnarok 8 Frigates
2 Highwind Transports.

The Highwind Tranports carry $3,000,000,000 worth of aid in weapons, medical supplies, and building materials.


Ragnarok 8 Airship
http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/ragnarok8.jpg

Airship :Class, light Frigate
Cargo hold:3 tons
Living Space: enough for 20 people
Maximum speed: 400M/P/H when full, 500 when not full.
Maximum Altitude: 10000 Feet (around 3000 Meters)
Maximum Distance: 10,000 miles.
It comes with a 1,000,000 mile guarantee! (note:, that doesnt involve f your shot down or raided, only engine problems that dotn have to do with sabotage.)
Dimensions: 500 feet in length, 100 in width, 75 in height.
Propolsion: 1 Bahamut Class Engine, powered by Natural Gas and at high altitudes, multiple windmills, which slows the Ship down 100 M/P/H

Battle Version:
CArgo Hold: 300 Soldiers
Living Space: enough for 310 people
Max Speed: 300 M/P/H when full, 400 when not
Maximum Distance: 7,000 miles.
Armament: 10 5 MM computer or manualy operated cannons, one 15MM Canon

5MM cannons:
Max range: 500 yards
Ammo: 50 rounds
Firing: Semi-Automatic
Ammo Type: Incidiary, Explosive, or Armor Pearcing.

10MM Cannons:
RAnge: 1000yards
Max Ammo:200 rounds
Firinng: Semi-Automatic:
Ammo type: Incndiary, Explosive, Armor Pearcing, Nuclear, or Chemical/Biological.

Highwind:
http://clubkool.iwarp.com/high3.gif

Airship Class: Cargo Ship
Maximum Cargo:50 tons
Maximum Crew Space: enough for 30 people
Maximum speed: 400 M/P/H without full cargo, 250 M/P/H/ With
Maximum Altitude: 5,000 feet
MAximum Distance: 15,000 miles
Dimensions:700 feet long, 200 feet wide, 300 feet high,
Propolsion: 3 Bahamut Class Engine, powered by Natural Gas and at high altitudes, multiple windmills, which slows the Ship down 150 M/P/H

Alexandria Class Battleship

http://stadt.heim.at/london/161698/ACDateien/FinalFantasyUnlimited-Airship.JPG

Airship Class: Battleship
Cargo Hold: Enough to hold 1,000 men
Enough supplies and living space for: 1,300 men
Maximum Speed: 350 M/P/H, full or empty
Maximum Altitude: 15,000 feet.
Maximum Distance:infinite
Dimensions: 1,500 feet long, 700 feet wide, 500 feet high
Armament: 50 5in. cannons, 15 10in. cannons, 5 15in. Cannons, 1 20in. Cannon, 5 cruise missiles, 500 gallons of napalm.
Propolsion: 5 Bahamut Class engines, powered by a mini nuclear Reactor.
Armor: 3 feet of Irionril sheet metal.

Weapons:

5in. Cannons:
Max range: 500 yards
Ammo: 50 rounds
Firing: Semi-Automatic
Ammo Type: Incidiary, Explosive, or Armor Pearcing

10in. Cannons:
RAnge: 1000yards
Max Ammo:200 rounds
Firinng: Semi-Automatic:
Ammo type: Incindiary, Explosive, Armor Pearcing, Nuclear, or Chemical/Biological.

15in. Cannons:
RAnge: 1,500yards
Max Ammo:500 rounds
Firinng: Semi-Automatic
Ammo type: Incindiary, Explosive, Armor Pearcing, Nuclear, or Chemical/Biological.

20in. Cannon:
RAnge: 3,000 yards
Max Ammo:1
Firing Type: One shot
Ammo-type: Incindiary, Explosive, Armor Pearcing, Nuclear, or Chemical/Biological

The Squadron will be used to Patrol GS's skies and defend it from any aggression. Unfortunatly these are all of the ships that can be sent to the region.

OOC: This is on the other GS post too. Both sides are welcome to purchase airships from http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6667556#post6667556 , which is my shop, but GS gets a 25% discount (because he goes into the friends section)

To: Allies of the Germania Superior
From: Admiral Lucia Greer United Atlantic Islands

To Allies:

The United Atlantic Parliment has officially called up all of the Islands Reserve Troops and has decided to send ten (10) nuclear SSN "phantom" hunter-killer submarines to the one already deployed in the southern Atlantic. The Parliment also sends one (1) diesel-eletric SSBN "ghostback" missle submarine.
The Republic of Tict has independently decided to deploy the R.T.S Friday and the R.T.S Black Cannon.
The Democratic Sttes of Cantonae have also independently decided to share United Atlantic Satellites and global surveillance recources.
The United Atlantic Parliment also wishes to recognize the Germania Superior as the official ruler of the empire. The UAI parliment also wishes that a conflict can be avoided and hopes that a decleration of war will be a last resort.

Admiral Lucia Greer
United Atlantic Navy

The Federal Union will not cater to the wishes of foreign states for us to "explain our actions" for we do not believe that any justification is required to re-establish law and order within a nation's borders.


i agree that you do not need to explain your actions to re-establish law and order within your borders but Germania Superior is no longer part of your nation. the moment the declared independence they became their own nation therefore justification is now required if you want any of the ever growing ammount of nations on Germania Superior's side to withdraw their support. i know i for one will not withdraw any support from Germania Superior until i see some good solid proof of what you say they are really trying to do.

To: The Lightning Star, Germania Superior
From: Sky Marshall office
Re: Peacekeeping

We will be dispatching the WSS Subaru, the WSS Rodina, and the WSS Blackbird to assist The Lightning Star in their peacekeeping mission over the Kingdom of Germania Superior, providing they are willing to accept us. Current ETA is approximately 18 hours.

As the Sakura class will soon be retired from active duty in favor of the new trio of skyship classes, this will probably be their last international assignment.

Gerard Storm,
Sky Marshall of the Weyrean Skyfleet

i agree that you do not need to explain your actions to re-establish law and order within your borders but Germania Superior is no longer part of your nation. the moment the declared independence they became their own nation therefore justification is now required if you want any of the ever growing ammount of nations on Germania Superior's side to withdraw their support. i know i for one will not withdraw any support from Germania Superior until i see some good solid proof of what you say they are really trying to do.

We have taken your concerns into careful consideration and recognise that it is your prerogative to do as you see fit. If it is evidence you seek, we suggest that your foreign ministry do a better job of perusing the pertinent news feeds from Lauterburg. We would also like to draw your attention to the fact that the insurrectionists have proclaimed their King as one who rules "by divine right." We shall leave you to draw your own conclusions as to whether such proclamations are characteristic of a "state" that claims to cherish democratic values.

Although the Federal Union discourages diplomatic support, we are cognizant that such displays cannot be controlled. However, open military support is another matter altogether. We hope that while some of our friends abroad may hold misplaced admiration for Marburg and may express this through words of encouragement, they shall be wise enough to realise that any attempt at military intervention on behalf of the Royalists will be dealt with accordingly.

The Imperial AirFleet is happy to have the Weyrians on our side .

To: Alaric, King of Xeraph
From: Vice Governor Julius August, The Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople

Your Highness:

Our nation strongly believes that the internal affairs of sovereign countries should not be interfered with by those in the international community absent exigent circumstances, such as genocide or internal strife threatening the security of neighboring countries. Our nation has no intention of intereceding in this internal dispute without an expressed request from assistance from the leaders of the Federation. Please be advised that if that request should come, our forces will defend themselves with all available means against any attacks.

Vice Governor Julius August
by authority of the citizens of the Colony of Jingoistic Jaxpeople


Vice Governor:

Thank you for your concern. As noted in our post, we are ready to deploy our forces in the defense of GS IF and WHEN they request it. Rest assured that we will not enter the fray without proper response from the govt of GS.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

The Federal Union appreciates the Kingdom of Xeraph's point of view and humbly suggests that His Majesty, King Alaric avoid continuing instigation of rash responses to another state's internal problems. We shall be more than pleased to meet with His Majesty's diplomatic representatives in our capital to resolve outstanding difficulties between our nations. The Union's regional and international allies will also be happy to discuss this inconvenience at the conference table and we are confident that they will do their utmost to convince His Majesty of the errors of his ways.


To whichever fool is currently in charge of Lauterburg:

#1...Our response was neither instigative nor rash.

#2...This is not the internal problem of a single nation.

#3...We do not wish to discuss anything with Lauterburg as we are supporting GS's wish for independence.

#4...You have already convinced me of the "error of my ways". I thought, from the apparent intelligence and dictation of the Lauterburg posts, that I was dealing with someone rational. Your attitude, however, belies your words.


Lauterburg and allies, be warned: Xeraph/the Xeraphian Federation and it's allies number armored troopers in the tens-of-millions. Our naval and air support forces will certainly overwhelm any nation or group of nations who are 4 months old.

We are not imperialistic. We live and let live. But we have never been defeated. And, with all due respect to the up-and-coming nations of Lauterburg and Jingoistic Jaxpeople, and any other nation not supporting Germania Superior, I would highly suggest that no one interfere in the independence movement of GS.

We will not tolerate it.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

Theres some fighting on the Other thread in which GS declared independence. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343205&page=3&pp=15 The Weyrian Airfleet has come under attack.

words of a true man. I understood that, no fancy words and phrases to hide feelings and to be all diplomatic. Just plain and clear words. Lil' Irelandia may have a reletivly small army but we will fight alongside our brothers in arms with full force. LI is officially supporting GS and is sending re-enforcements in the form of 600 HRCU (Heavy Robotic Combat Units), 1,000 additional RCI, 800 HSRI (Heavy Support Robotic Infantry) as well as our entire (tiny) air force consisting of 12 high speed fighter planes which we will send to your position to help you. with your permission.

I ahve recently accuired 12 (soon to be 30) ragnarok 8 fighter craft and 3 highwind transport ships. My forces are going to come to the aid of the GS allies who are under attack.

Can we -please- keep the fighting/whatever in a single thread. It makes life a lot easier . . .

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343205&page=3&pp=15

One the thread that Weyr posted ive sacrificed a heck of alot of men, so youd better appreaciate my men marchign off to war to help you with your independence. Our Nation was formed the exact way as yours, GS, so we know how tough it is.

To whichever fool is currently in charge of Lauterburg:

#1...Our response was neither instigative nor rash.

#2...This is not the internal problem of a single nation.

#3...We do not wish to discuss anything with Lauterburg as we are supporting GS's wish for independence.

#4...You have already convinced me of the "error of my ways". I thought, from the apparent intelligence and dictation of the Lauterburg posts, that I was dealing with someone rational. Your attitude, however, belies your words.


Lauterburg and allies, be warned: Xeraph/the Xeraphian Federation and it's allies number armored troopers in the tens-of-millions. Our naval and air support forces will certainly overwhelm any nation or group of nations who are 4 months old.

We are not imperialistic. We live and let live. But we have never been defeated. And, with all due respect to the up-and-coming nations of Lauterburg and Jingoistic Jaxpeople, and any other nation not supporting Germania Superior, I would highly suggest that no one interfere in the independence movement of GS.

We will not tolerate it.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph


We have considered your proposition and unfortunately will have to decline at this juncture. We anticipate that this minor inconvenience between our states shall be settled in due course and in the manner of dialogue that you, your allies and our friends will understand implicitly.

We regret that things have taken such a difficult turn, but we realise that once Marburg is back within the fold of the Federal Union relations will improve between our nations. We ask for your continued forbearance.


OOC: Keep the fighting in the other thread and I'll get my friend (GS) to post there.

We have considered your proposition and unfortunately will have to decline at this juncture. We anticipate that this minor inconvenience between our states shall be settled in due course and in the manner of dialogue that you, your allies and our friends will understand implicitly.

We regret that things have taken such a difficult turn, but we realise that once Marburg is back within the fold of the Federal Union relations will improve between our nations. We ask for your continued forbearance.


OOC: Keep the fighting in the other thread and I'll get my friend (GS) to post there.

OOC: OK...will do...