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Zoogiedom National Elections

Please read through the candidate descriptions and reply to the thread in addition to voting...or something...

Despite the Zoogiedom national elections still being several months away, the heated debates and ad campaigns are being raised to a higher level. There is no clear winner, and each candidate has rallied a certain amount of supporters.

Elections often result in rapid and great changes in the Zoogiedom government structure. In contrast to the suspicious policies of many other nations, it is the citizens of Zoogiedom that decide who becomes the Supreme Executive Officer who Really Doesn't Have Supreme Executive Power(Commander-in-Chief, for short), rather than a poll of the other nations.

-Incumbent: William Ciel

Has been in the position for the past eight years, and is looking to be in position for four more (max 12), riding on his wave of popularity. Eight years ago, Zoogiedom was headed by a socialist party that had been in power for ages since the Last Revolution...When Ciel took power (Around February RL), a serious of pro-corporation reforms and reduction in size of government helped the economy skyrocket.

However, the government is still enormous on the verge of omnipresent and income taxes are stretched at breaking point at a flat 42%. This has not hurt consumers, evidently, who still enjoy an average 32,000 GDP per capita or so. He is mostly liberal and isolationist, although he has some rather unliberal economic policies that sometimes conflict with his high taxes/large government.


-Challenger: Gerald Fontair

Socialist party candidate that has risen to near godlike status among the socialists seeking to regain control of the quasi-hyperbolic office (I don't know, it's a spin on the Oval Office although I haven't made the name defitive...a bit like the Ditrigonal Dodecacronic Hexecontahedron Defense Agency [DDA] is a spin on the Pentagon, although that is definitive)

Wants even larger government, more regulation of business and redistribution of economy. Also believes we're too involved internationally and has pointed out social welfare problems. Complete nut on social welfare.


-Challenger: Harold Redan

Green party candidate that is regarded by many to be just a tad off the extreme end, especially considering Zoogiedom's beautiful environment, pristine, mostly private beaches, and industrial effectiveness (low dependency on petroleum-based products)...and is generally regarded by all except a fairly strong base of followers as freaking pyscho. Calls for massive government regulation of business, complete and utter environmental paradise and preservation, screwing the military completely, and harshly punishing all who commit even the slightest harm to the precious precious mother earth (such as littering or coughing while sick, or using hideous, dirty, Zoogiedom cars [which, coincidentally, are some of the cleanest around]) without trial or due process.

Everything is of secondary importance to the environment. Never mind that it's thriving and well-off as could be...seen as strong, firm, and absolutely nuts.

-Challenger: Michael Hansien

Cherub party candidate that came from absolutely nowhere to tiny unknown party spotlight. The Cherub party is regarded to be primarily libertarian, but has almost no control despite an long and healthy existence. He wants the military to drastically cut back on personell and improve on technology, and champions research that fuels a more effective future..supporting it with government funds in part, but mostly by giving researching corporations tax incentives and such.

Opponents consider him too extreme in his economic right-wing policies, which involve a very free and mostly unregulated market, although he does believe a national corporate watchdog is a fundamentally sound idea and should continue to be used. He is seen as a fair potential leader, although he has lots to prove and almost no previous record to speak of.



-Challenger: Micar Anderson

Nationalist party candidate that calls for more supreme executive power and a stronger central government, particularly executive branch, particularly him. Seen as a very strong leader with pretty capitalist policies, although does not plan for much political freedom. Would make an excellent benevolent dictator, giving his little playthings...er...his citizens medium to good civil rights. Believes in a good, strong military with technological backing but also strong manpower. "Brute force never killed ya, oh wait, it did!" he often quips.

The only problem is the heavy distrust of the Nationalist party after...the...uh...'Dark ole days' when a psychotic nationalist party man siezed power and plunged Zoogiedom into the darkest, scariest, most totalitarian and cruel times it has ever known.



-Challenger: Nicholas Mikhanovich

Libertarian party candidate that calls for libertarianism in its truest, purest, form, with a tiny, tiny, efficient government, little to no regulation of industry, a small but capable self defense force, and civil rights a-plenty. Opponents cry that this is near anarchy, but he takes pride in the same words. He believes that government has no right to exist in the way that it does today, and is unwavering in his beliefs. Is seen as a very strong and capable leader; it's just that there are an awful lot of political opponents to his policies.



-Challenger: Harris O'Bannon

A devout and firm...centrist in all aspects of the word, O'Bannon seeks to run on the platform of moderacy. He wishes to return Zoogiedom to the glory days of centrist democracy, when citizens enjoyed the right to spend their money as they pleased, to a point; when government held free and open elections, but not too often, and gave its citizens good civil rights, although not too many. Heavily religous, he calls for a separation of church and state, although not too much separation. He calls for a small military, but not too small, nor too technologically advanced. He calls for healthy taxes, although not too much, to fund the national coffers and its medium social welfare benefits.

Seen as a middle in the road candidate, although critics and friends alike aren't sure whether to categorize him as 'firm and unwavering' or 'indecisive.'

There are more candidates, with other interesting characteristics; more to come later on. These are seen as the major ones, but we have an entire human gestational period (sp?) until the elections and lots of time for mobility in the polls.

I'm taking an out-of-context survey of your opinions. What do YOU think?

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The current Zoogiedom executive branch-government under William Ciel would like to voice its equivocal support for candidate William Ciel, the incumbent, who will get the first OOC vote by default, although this is no allusion to my OOC intentions.

This is a good day! The Zoogie people will be able to take part in a bloodless revolution and elect a socialist government without fighting a civil war. If Fontair is elected we will open up relations with the Zoogies and exchange ambassadors.

Pres. Dr. Roland B. Durandana of Wassa
United Socialist States of Fortestan

Of course, we've always had world benchmark political freedoms (this latest dip is the result of an accidental mistake in issue-choosing, and I'm working on it :P) and can change our government style without revolution; just lots of outcry in a painful and extenuated process.

Although turning socialist wouldn't be too hard; we used to...should Mr. Fontair not be elected, we hope you will still maintain cordial relations with Zoogiedom, as we have many socialist allies.

Foreign Ministry

OOC: Realize that the election IS nine months away and that you are not influencing the elections as a Zoogiedom citizen. All voters are encouraged to explain why, especially if you picked 'other.'

I did not mean for my message of support for the Zoogie Socialist Party to seem radical and imply I would not open relations between our two countries. We hope that your country enjoys peaceful elections, unlike a lot of other nations that have a less stable political system. Peace and prosperity to the Zoogie people!

Pres. Dr. Roland B. Durandana of Wassa

Understood.

Nobody's green around here? ;)

Understood.

Nobody's green around here? ;)

I'm greenish, but you made the candidate sound... unappetizing. Much as the enviroment is important, a psycho isn't much good as the Head of State. Looks like you don't want him as your leader. ;)

[argh, the old subliminal bumps (bump, then delete) don't work anymore]

Granzi, he isn't so much a psycho as ... well....alright. At any rate, I'm glad most people are taking this seriously...The character is a little exaggeration of what I think of Ralph Nader's policies.

Please, people, respond when you vote...I'd prefer your input rather than a silent ballot...

I chose Michael Hansien (the libertarian-ish guy), he has basically the same policies i use for Anarresa. Im just a little less pro-buisness

Centralist, mainly becouse Commarchy is somewhat close to Centralist (and a little Greenist, but your Green is different so...)

Number one its Centists not Centralist. Number 2 its Green instead of Greenist and commarchy would only work in theory.

[argh, the old subliminal bumps (bump, then delete) don't work anymore]

Granzi, he isn't so much a psycho as ... well....alright. At any rate, I'm glad most people are taking this seriously...The character is a little exaggeration of what I think of Ralph Nader's policies.

Please, people, respond when you vote...I'd prefer your input rather than a silent ballot...

Mmm, I'd have to agree with you there. Ralph Nader's policies are scary, to say the least.

Phaerus News :: Presidential Polls

Even with the elections a healthy nine months away, we have decided to conduct a series of random-sampled, extremely large pollls of several million people regarding their position on who should be president.

We will conduct these polls again at two month intervals, and then shortly before the election itself.

Here are the current standings; three million have participated.



William Ciel-------------27.63%
Gerald Fontair ---------15.83%
Harold Redan-----------6.23%
Michael Hansien--------8.38%
Micar Anderson---------6.21%
Nicholas Mikhanovic-----10.72%
Harris O'Bannon---------15.74%
[other]-----------------8.26%

Please bear in mind that these statistics are very volatile, as each candidate and party has only a small loyal base, and 62% of Zoogiedom citizens are of undeclared party or independent...also bear in mind that 92.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

William Ciel's current approval rating has gone up and has been going up steadily, having declined in march, april, and may. He is enjoying healthy approval ratings of 72% and has connected with citizens, but with so many other choices he doesn't garner an overwhelming majority...it is still, nevertheless, likely that he takes the office for another four years.

Gerald Fontair has connected with socialists and those who appreciated and enjoyed the times of socialism in Zoogiedom, remembering it was the socialists who wrested control from the psychotic nationalist dictator of a long and golden past. Micar Anderson has not yet had much contact with the national media and is automatically viewed with skepticism as he is of the nationalist party; this will change, he hopes. Michael Hansien and Nicholas Mikhanovic are libertarians and capitalizing on the pro-business majority, although neither has connected firmly yet and established a firm ground for their campaigns.

Harris O'Bannon is seen as a solid choice by many, and has a huge number of swing voters that he can gather from nearly every direction due to his platform. Harold Redan has failed to gain much support early on due to reduced media exposure, but is confident his socialist/green platform will leap him into the presidency nutcase that he is.

I vote for Conan O'Brien!

O_o

O_o
What, he's a write-in!

Number one its Centists not Centralist. Number 2 its Green instead of Greenist and commarchy would only work in theory.

Yeh, well, I was talking to Zoogie on AIM so I was half there. Also, How do you know Commarchy would not work?

Zoogiedom National Elections

Please read through the candidate descriptions and reply to the thread in addition to voting...or something...

Despite the Zoogiedom national elections still being several months away, the heated debates and ad campaigns are being raised to a higher level. There is no clear winner, and each candidate has rallied a certain amount of supporters.

Elections often result in rapid and great changes in the Zoogiedom government structure. In contrast to the suspicious policies of many other nations, it is the citizens of Zoogiedom that decide who becomes the Supreme Executive Officer who Really Doesn't Have Supreme Executive Power(Commander-in-Chief, for short), rather than a poll of the other nations.

-Incumbent: William Ciel

Has been in the position for the past eight years, and is looking to be in position for four more (max 12), riding on his wave of popularity. Eight years ago, Zoogiedom was headed by a socialist party that had been in power for ages since the Last Revolution...When Ciel took power (Around February RL), a serious of pro-corporation reforms and reduction in size of government helped the economy skyrocket.

However, the government is still enormous on the verge of omnipresent and income taxes are stretched at breaking point at a flat 42%. This has not hurt consumers, evidently, who still enjoy an average 32,000 GDP per capita or so. He is mostly liberal and isolationist, although he has some rather unliberal economic policies that sometimes conflict with his high taxes/large government.


-Challenger: Gerald Fontair

Socialist party candidate that has risen to near godlike status among the socialists seeking to regain control of the quasi-hyperbolic office (I don't know, it's a spin on the Oval Office although I haven't made the name defitive...a bit like the Ditrigonal Dodecacronic Hexecontahedron Defense Agency [DDA] is a spin on the Pentagon, although that is definitive)

Wants even larger government, more regulation of business and redistribution of economy. Also believes we're too involved internationally and has pointed out social welfare problems. Complete nut on social welfare.


-Challenger: Harold Redan

Green party candidate that is regarded by many to be just a tad off the extreme end, especially considering Zoogiedom's beautiful environment, pristine, mostly private beaches, and industrial effectiveness (low dependency on petroleum-based products)...and is generally regarded by all except a fairly strong base of followers as freaking pyscho. Calls for massive government regulation of business, complete and utter environmental paradise and preservation, screwing the military completely, and harshly punishing all who commit even the slightest harm to the precious precious mother earth (such as littering or coughing while sick, or using hideous, dirty, Zoogiedom cars [which, coincidentally, are some of the cleanest around]) without trial or due process.

Everything is of secondary importance to the environment. Never mind that it's thriving and well-off as could be...seen as strong, firm, and absolutely nuts.

-Challenger: Michael Hansien

Cherub party candidate that came from absolutely nowhere to tiny unknown party spotlight. The Cherub party is regarded to be primarily libertarian, but has almost no control despite an long and healthy existence. He wants the military to drastically cut back on personell and improve on technology, and champions research that fuels a more effective future..supporting it with government funds in part, but mostly by giving researching corporations tax incentives and such.

Opponents consider him too extreme in his economic right-wing policies, which involve a very free and mostly unregulated market, although he does believe a national corporate watchdog is a fundamentally sound idea and should continue to be used. He is seen as a fair potential leader, although he has lots to prove and almost no previous record to speak of.



-Challenger: Micar Anderson

Nationalist party candidate that calls for more supreme executive power and a stronger central government, particularly executive branch, particularly him. Seen as a very strong leader with pretty capitalist policies, although does not plan for much political freedom. Would make an excellent benevolent dictator, giving his little playthings...er...his citizens medium to good civil rights. Believes in a good, strong military with technological backing but also strong manpower. "Brute force never killed ya, oh wait, it did!" he often quips.

The only problem is the heavy distrust of the Nationalist party after...the...uh...'Dark ole days' when a psychotic nationalist party man siezed power and plunged Zoogiedom into the darkest, scariest, most totalitarian and cruel times it has ever known.



-Challenger: Nicholas Mikhanovich

Libertarian party candidate that calls for libertarianism in its truest, purest, form, with a tiny, tiny, efficient government, little to no regulation of industry, a small but capable self defense force, and civil rights a-plenty. Opponents cry that this is near anarchy, but he takes pride in the same words. He believes that government has no right to exist in the way that it does today, and is unwavering in his beliefs. Is seen as a very strong and capable leader; it's just that there are an awful lot of political opponents to his policies.



-Challenger: Harris O'Bannon

A devout and firm...centrist in all aspects of the word, O'Bannon seeks to run on the platform of moderacy. He wishes to return Zoogiedom to the glory days of centrist democracy, when citizens enjoyed the right to spend their money as they pleased, to a point; when government held free and open elections, but not too often, and gave its citizens good civil rights, although not too many. Heavily religous, he calls for a separation of church and state, although not too much separation. He calls for a small military, but not too small, nor too technologically advanced. He calls for healthy taxes, although not too much, to fund the national coffers and its medium social welfare benefits.

Seen as a middle in the road candidate, although critics and friends alike aren't sure whether to categorize him as 'firm and unwavering' or 'indecisive.'

There are more candidates, with other interesting characteristics; more to come later on. These are seen as the major ones, but we have an entire human gestational period (sp?) until the elections and lots of time for mobility in the polls.

I'm taking an out-of-context survey of your opinions. What do YOU think?

-

The current Zoogiedom executive branch-government under William Ciel would like to voice its equivocal support for candidate William Ciel, the incumbent, who will get the first OOC vote by default, although this is no allusion to my OOC intentions.


Well we vote for Ciel, whe knew him for years so, we vote for him

Doujin will support Michael Hansien (libertarian-ish) (Even though in the poll I voted for the liberal guy on accident. It my also be fair to note that in real life, I am a Libertarian.. so..).

Doujin will make available unlimited amount of funds to Michael Hansien's campaign (I really want to see him elected :D) for the Presidency of the Zoogie People. (And since I am God, my vote carries the weight of 20 people).

Our policy for corporations sponosring the campaigns of politicians is fairly open and honest (made public); however, for foreign corporations, it is more limited; and for foreign governments, it is barred altogether. This has and continues to be national policy.

The cap for a foreign corporation's donation to any one campaign is $20m...realize, though, that this particular candidate is still only about even in the funds and is significantly lower in funds than the current president and socialist candidate.

And the Zoogie did truly say 'bump,' and thus it happened.

In response to Truitt: Commarchy wouldn't work because Communist governments have always been dictatorial. And so a meshing of a dictatorial style of governance with a democratic style always leads to a fight between the two and a victory for the dictatorial style of governance since in a dictatorship descisions can be made quickly and easily because you don't have to get approval through a vote. So no I don't think Commarchy would work. It would work any better than a fascist-democracy mesh either.

Well, I think it would, although of cource the family thing would be the only problem (but it was the first thing I could come up with to keep the economy high).

Also, if my person wins (confused on how to spell it now since someone confused me) I will donate any and all fund for wellfare and enviromental causes (although it somehow will not leave the President's hands...)

Also really about Commarchy its place is already taken up with Socialism. Basically Communism with Democracy, or in a Democratic enviroment, is Socialism. So basically a Commarchy style of governance would be very much, in pratice at least, like a Socialist run country.

Well, true, it is, for the Supreme Council takes up 45% of the government.

However,
The Greenist Nation is made up of of cource a Democracy's form of Federal Court, and Providental Court, alogn with a Local Court. Also, that make sup about 5% of the government's power. Next tot he Presidentel Division, there is no real other powers.

As to the families issue, well, don't get em started.

Plus, becouse of laws inacted and the families inacted, dictatorship could not rise easily, and if so, the Green Party would beg to differ. Also, onyl the Black Party can gain Presidentel Status, and it is hard, you have to be part of one of the five families.

And thusly did the Zoogie say - '1 5|-|4ll |3|_||\/|p j00!'

Samtonia would like to extend our congratulations to our staunch and erstwhile ally, the Zoogie People, in opening up their elections coverage to the nations of the world. We will keep up our diplomatic ties no matter the candidate elected, and support the current incumbant for his third presidency.

We welcome your support, as always. Of course, we are a bit disappointed that you will still have friendly relations with this nation if I am out of office, but nevertheless...;)

William Ciel,
President - Zoogiedom

The Aztec National League supports the Socialist canidate, Gerald Fontair, as a socialist policy closely is in agreement with ours. However, we are very supportive of our ally of the Zoogie People and no matter who wins, we still will stand by her.

Elections are only seven months away, and the choices are becoming steadily more clear...or perhaps, unclear. Candidates have promoted their platforms, trying to make those who would have supported the incumbent wonder, 'Can we do even better?'

With the elections a healthy seven months away, we have decided to conduct a series of random-sampled, extremely large pollls of several million people regarding their position on who should be president.

We will conduct these polls again at two month intervals, and then shortly before the election itself. The current candidate leaders have firmly carved themselves into the ballots, as usual for this time period, having eradicated for all intents and purposes further competition.

Here are the current standings; 4.5 million have participated.



William Ciel-------------19.61%
Gerald Fontair ---------16.85%
Harold Redan-----------6.27%
Michael Hansien--------11.36%
Micar Anderson---------10.28%
Nicholas Mikhanovic-----13.70%
Harris O'Bannon---------19.64%
[other]-----------------2.26%

[Yech! Left-wingers galore, NS has gone to the dogs. ;)]

Our policy for corporations sponosring the campaigns of politicians is fairly open and honest (made public); however, for foreign corporations, it is more limited; and for foreign governments, it is barred altogether. This has and continues to be national policy.

The cap for a foreign corporation's donation to any one campaign is $20m...realize, though, that this particular candidate is still only about even in the funds and is significantly lower in funds than the current president and socialist candidate.

OOC: Now please, we would do it through various puppet assets of ours in Zoogie :D

Elections are only seven months away, and the choices are becoming steadily more clear...or perhaps, unclear. Candidates have promoted their platforms, trying to make those who would have supported the incumbent wonder, 'Can we do even better?'

With the elections a healthy seven months away, we have decided to conduct a series of random-sampled, extremely large pollls of several million people regarding their position on who should be president.

We will conduct these polls again at two month intervals, and then shortly before the election itself. The current candidate leaders have firmly carved themselves into the ballots, as usual for this time period, having eradicated for all intents and purposes further competition.

Here are the current standings; 4.5 million have participated.



William Ciel-------------19.61%
Gerald Fontair ---------16.85%
Harold Redan-----------6.27%
Michael Hansien--------11.36%
Micar Anderson---------10.28%
Nicholas Mikhanovic-----13.70%
Harris O'Bannon---------19.64%
[other]-----------------2.26%

So what happened to the other .03 percent ?

I figured that when figuring out percentages, one would have to round, which would inevitably cause an end result of not 100% when you add up all the numbers. So that's what I did.

I am astounded that you bothered to add that up. :P

Zoogie, considering that Lethislavania is a protectorate, shall we have any sort of say in the election or ability to contribute in any way?

That's a good question. I think that as a protectorate, your corporations would be subject to domestic donating rules and not limited to foreign rules and such, but I don't believe your citizens will be able to vote...

Ah... So how much could LS Tek give to Gerald's campaign?

Eek! Don't make me churn out political donation amounts right now! :lol: No, that's okay...my laws aren't strict, let's just say, a fine and very large amount. I said $20m earlier for foreign donations, I meant $20 thousand...so...well...I don't know an exact number, but pretty large.

Mr. Gerald,

On behalf of the High Communist and our loyal buisness, we would like to donate 1.5 Million USD to your campaign, if you are so willing.

Grand General Zayku
Leader of Millitairy and LS Tek Company Head

Mr. Zayku,

We thank you greatly for your contribution. May the socialist party triumph in these upcoming elections!

Gerald Fontair