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Comrades,
We have all seen it, it is obvious. The age of imperialism returns. Fascist and right wing nations set up pact after pact of rascist alliances to spread their evil words and dominate more innocents all around the world.

So, we call for the formation of a Counter-Imperialist Alliance. A mutual protection pact of many nations, designed to thwart imperialism and attacks on them by imperialist nations. We may also seek to defend non-pact members from the dreaded vice grip of imperialism.

No matter what your political persuasion, as long as you are anti imperialist, anti rascist and anti fascist you are welcome to join this alliance. Please, help us do what is right and protect the world from the imperialists and neo-nazis. It is time someone gave them a fight!

Members so Far:-----
Technocracia
Dontpissusoff
Kanabia
Farflung
New Scotistan
Sevaris
Waylend
Unified West Africa

Tell me...

Do I get a commie cake?

So you intend to fight imperialism by invading countries whose choice of government you disagree with?

Tyrandis finds it amusing that the founder of the proposed alliance is willing to go to war to remove a government he disagrees with.

Anybody who joins this alliance will be embargoed by the "League of Empire Loyalists" and the use of the Suez canal will be totally denied to them.

I think everybody's right. Except me. Can I bum some foreign aid?

So you intend to fight imperialism by invading countries whose choice of government you disagree with?

No, we offer to form a pact designed to defend all our nations FROM imperialists. We will not launch attacks on enemy nations becuase of their differing political beliefs.

Anybody who joins this alliance will be embargoed by the "League of Empire Loyalists" and the use of the Suez canal will be totally denied to them.



Oh no. Please don't kill me. (sarcasm)

Technocracia is an Imperialist nation itself. With the invasion of Hallad, like Shildonia said, because they do not agree with our policies and government.

Technocracia is an Imperialist nation itself. With the invasion of Hallad, like Shildonia said, because they do not agree with our policies and government.

Please tell us when Technocracia invaded Hallad?

Tell me...

Do I get a commie cake?


Yes, with a big chocolate hammer and sickle on it!

You're saying the right wing collective is imperialist? I'm sorry but you are wrong.

You're saying the right wing collective is imperialist? I'm sorry but you are wrong.


Please tell me where i said this.

I beg to differ. Most right-wing collectives seem to exist solely to protect their own Imperial possessions and aid one another in gaining more of them.

Technocracia, we will join this organisation, providing it is strictly defensive.

I beg to differ. Most right-wing collectives seem to exist solely to protect their own Imperial possessions and aid one another in gaining more of them.

Technocracia, we will join this organisation, providing it is strictly defensive.


Of course, this organisation will be designed in order to defend fellow non-imperialist nations from their expansive neighbours. We will not go to war unless an organisation member was attacked, and only then if the organisation member is the defender.

What if a nation that is not a member requests our aid, and we judge the situation to justify aid to them?

What if a nation that is not a member requests our aid, and we judge the situation to justify aid to them?


I was waiting until we had members to begin to sort this thing out, because i want the organisation to be democratic, and not just a set of rules made by me. In my personal opinion, i would assist them to some extent, but perhaps not with a huge contingent of military. However, this is open for discussion and if you do want to join this organisation then perhaps we can begin to discuss rules/organisational roles etc?

Very true, very true. Count me in then!

The People's Republic of New Scotistan welcomes the call to defend against the Imperialist hostility towards Socialists and anti-fascists. As a member of the Anticapitalist Alliance and sister state to The United Socialist States of Possil and Firhill we find that right-wing groups are intent on destroying the peaceful happiness of our peoples.

Too long have our people been blighted by the propaganda of these nations and their hostile trade sanctions and embargoes. The dove of peace rests on the hammer and sickle of our great people, but we retain the right to defend our mighty People's Republic against the Imperialist Capitalist foe.

Long live the revolutionary council of the people!
Long live the comrades of The United Socialist States of Possil and Firhill
Long live the People's Republic of New Scotistan

With revolutionary greetings, PRNS Ambassador to the UN

Very true, very true. Count me in then!

We thank you. I'll TG you soon, but i gotta go out for a couple hours.

The Republic of Sevaris, being the latest victim of imperialist agression, requests to join this alliance.

Although we are not imperialists ourselves, we find it highly amusing that you would "liberate" such nations, thus destroying the purpose of anti-imperialism.

You evidently do not understand. If a nation is to be taken in an imperialist conquest, we intervene. We do not overthrow Governments.

Well, take on Melkor Unchained then. He's doing a lot of imperialistic action at the moment.

Oh wait, you only attack the small, imperialstic nations....

Please tell me where i said this.

Well, you're saying that right wing, nazi and fascist nations are becoming imperialistic again. Right wing collective is made of such nations. Like Dimmimar said, take this to melkor I'm sure he loves to show you how he thinks about it

The Kingdom of Farflung is a small monarchy seeking only to ,live peacefully and and market our beef products and Arms(both sporting and military) if this is
acceptable we would certainly join.

Farflung, enter into this alliance and it will be the last action your nation ever does...

Dimmimar- What in god's name are you doing?

Trying to stop somebody making the biggest mistake of their NS lives.....

Joining this alliance is a mistake? I don't think so. I joined it.

Trying to stop somebody making the biggest mistake of their NS lives.....

What right is it of yours to dictate what Farflung can and cannot do of its own accord?

Give an answer to my posts above then....[the ones about melokr unchained...]

Trying to stop somebody making the biggest mistake of their NS lives.....


We ask that you stop your interference. Farflung has made a choice, and you should respect this. Attempting to force your will on other nations is the exact reason this alliance was formed (to stop nations from doing this), and your posts serve only to show why we need this kind of alliance.

See my above post. [and the ones about melkor too]

See my above post. [and the ones about melkor too]

If ANY NATION attacks a member of the anti-imperialist alliance, we will defend the alliance member. This is fairly obvious.

Dimmimar- Why are you doing this? Nations can join what alliances they want. You can criticize, yes, but you can't stop them.

So, it's for mutual defence, not some bunch of benevolent, do-gooder idiots interfering with the rest of the world?

So, it's for mutual defence, not some bunch of benevolent, do-gooder idiots interfering with the rest of the world?

Our alliance is a haven for those wishing to shelter from imperialism. It is, indeed, mutual defence. However, we hope that if enough nations join our pact, we will be able to curb imperialism becuase our organisation will be too powerful to attack. Make what you will of it.

Duh. It's a defence pact for nations that get attacked by imperialist powers.

Then we will destroy it! Watch your backs....

It would appear that reading comprehension is not a high priority in the Dimmimarian educational system...

The nation of Waylend would like to join this alliance for the protection of its people and to help non imperialists. Please telagram us if there is anyhting that needs to come to the attention of the aliance if I get accepted...

Dimmimar- You forget yourself. 23,000 Sevarisian soldiers gave their lives to help free your country. And now you are turning back to the old fascist/imperialist doctrines?

It would appear that reading comprehension is not a high priority in the Dimmimarian educational system...

OOC:
We actually it isn't much of a priority..... :p

I.C:
You musht be misstaken, we have a lot of donkeys in our nation.....

Joining this alliance is a mistake? I don't think so. I joined it.

Well it is since this alliance can only stop imperialist nations of about 100 million citizens. 2 billion+ nations do whatever they want. Think about it when you condemn the actions of melkor

Talthia would like to show its full support for the Counter-Imperialist Alliance and would very much like to become a member. However before I do join, I have a couple of questions for Technocracia:

1) I would like it clarified on how the Counter-Imperialist Alliance is designed to intervene in conflicts. (For instance, will all members HAVE to fight every skirmish)
2) I would also like to know more about the organization of the Counter-Imperialist Alliance.

If my questions can be answered, and I'm sure they will be, then I would gladly join. That is if you'll have me. :)

I've got to admit, watching nations completely mess up their attempts at threatening nations joining this alliance is something we are enjoying.

While we are not opposed to this alliance, we aren't entirely in favor of tying outselves down in another mutual defence pact; however we are prepared to support the ideals at least in princaple.

We used to run an anti-imperialism alliance ourselves, concentrating on assisting any nation whom was threatened with annexation and the such, however due to inactivity after a reasonable long period (4 months RL) and 600 posts on our topic...

However, its a big task and it's important to keep to what you can achieve and gain support from those you help to improve your strength.


We are amused and mildly surpised to see so many nations opposed to such an idea, perhaps many nation enjoy the idea of violently taking land from others. Even though this alliance is purely defencive.

We will watch with anticipation.

Ambassidor Kayal Harmone, Iuthian Diplomatic Corp

I condemned the actions of Kahta (nearly 2 billion people). War nearly erupted. I forced them to the barganing table. I got a treaty that had terms acceptable to me.

Anti imperialist alliances always bled to death, it happened before and it will happen again.

You merely wish to crush a group of nations who have bound themselves to each other to be free. Shame.

WE offer beefsteaks and get threats in return?
King John I can only assume from this that his choice was the correct one.
If need be then Farflung will put its arms industries to work for the common good, And the Farlung Royal Self Defense Forces will protect our Kingdom to the best ablity.

Actually, I find it rather refreshing to crush n00s.....

You call one of the countries who helped in your liberation noobish, Dimmimar?

Well actually, I wast refering to you.....

I know. But still, I'm in this Alliance. I'll defend its principles.

Anti imperialist alliances always bled to death, it happened before and it will happen again.

NAIA just got boring... none of the nations got "bled to death" because they were too many with alot of powerful nations and allies.

But hey, just keep huffing and puffing about it, maybe someone will fear you.

[I]perhaps, one day[I]

You want to be feared?

Geez, I'll keep whining on about this alliance.....

Why whine? It's here. Deal with it.

I'm leaving this thread. Bye!

I'll sign this. The only nations making threats against it are those that we are likely to come into conflict against anyway.

CM, you can take the Suez Canal and shove it.

NAIA just got boring... none of the nations got "bled to death" because they were too many with alot of powerful nations and allies.

But hey, just keep huffing and puffing about it, maybe someone will fear you.

Can you say: arrogant?

Can you say: arrogant?

Can you say: Hypocrite?

Don't have anything useful to add? Why don't you post somewhere else.

We thank all the friendly nations on this thread for helping defend the ideals of this alliance against Dimmimar, and i'm sure we all are very saddened by his announcement to leave the thread (sarcasm perhaps?)

In answer to Talthia's questions,
1/the alliance is being proposed at the moment. It is a new idea, and i have no blueprint as a i wish the alliance to be organised by member nations, not simply a set of rules laid down by me. Therefore at the moment there is no set procedure as to what member nations must do if an ally is attacked.

2/What was said above is relevant to here too, but i hope the organisation to be autonomous. That is, if we do have leader he/she shouldnt have powers to rule over the other member nations, and we should also have some nations in charge of admin such as recruitment, defense etc. This is still, once more, open for discussion among member nations.

We will be happy to have you if you accept.

Also, we have approved Farflung's, Waylend's, Sevaris' and Kanabia's membership requests. Welcome to the alliance! I will telegram all of you shortly in order to organise ourselves, and thanks!

Bumpage!

Can you say: Hypocrite?

Don't have anything useful to add? Why don't you post somewhere else.

I think it's pretty obvious who lost the argument here and doesn't know the meaning of hypocrite. It ain't me

I think it's pretty obvious who lost the argument here and doesn't know the meaning of hypocrite. It ain't me


You're back again??? Ahhh gees stop trying to hijack the thread and go back to the right wing collective or wherever it is you sell your mcdonalds from.

You're back again??? Ahhh gees stop trying to hijack the thread and go back to the right wing collective or wherever it is you sell your mcdonalds from.

Communists...

Communists...

Well observed ;)

Well observed ;)

why thank you

why thank you

Technocracia is here for any capitalists who want to feel less insecure than they really are.

Talthia will gladly join this alliance.

Communists...

Quit spamming the thread Holy Panooly... You've already been asked to stop hyjacking the thread.

Talthia will gladly join this alliance.

Talthia, we thank you, we welcome you to the alliance. Now our numbers our growing i shall start finding out about constructing a forum and better organising the alliance.

Anybody who joins this alliance will be embargoed by the "League of Empire Loyalists" and the use of the Suez canal will be totally denied to them.

Just a note, anyone can ignore his actions because he took the Suez from NPCs. The Ottoman Alliance is the first claim to the Suez.

Just a note, anyone can ignore his actions because he took the Suez from NPCs. The Ottoman Alliance is the first claim to the Suez.


Parthia took the Suez, and he is recognized owner on the Earth II claim.


Also he is my ally so he'll keep out anybody I want out of the Canal.

Doesn't that mean Parthia can block the canal... and not you?

Meh, personally I would suggest people don't recognise RL nation claims (and thus RL geography) because these areas exist in the real world and not in the Nation States world, which is made up of nations run by players.

The river Suez could exist, assuming your nation has a river named "Suez" and in such a case the only people who would benefit from that river would be those who live near it or trade with the nation... if the nation isn't letting you use the river then they aren't worth trading with and seeing as there are 100'000 other nations to trade with it's no lose.

Meh, personally I would suggest people don't recognise RL nation claims (and thus RL geography) because these areas exist in the real world and not in the Nation States world, which is made up of nations run by players.

The river Suez could exist, assuming your nation has a river named "Suez" and in such a case the only people who would benefit from that river would be those who live near it or trade with the nation... if the nation isn't letting you use the river then they aren't worth trading with and seeing as there are 100'000 other nations to trade with it's no lose.

Nicely done. :)

Meh. Even if it did any major NS nation could carve a canal through the entire of North Africa :)

Meh. Even if it did any major NS nation could carve a canal through the entire of North Africa :)


I own Libya and I don't intend to allow anybody to build canals through Libya.

When I say "major" I mean the likes of AMF, Melkor, Doujin and whatnot. I don't think you'd be in much of a position to argue. And anyway. If you objected and we planned on building one, we'd plonk it through central Africa instead. :P

The UWA would be happy to join the Counter-Imperialist Alliance to provide for the defense of the weak against the strong, all over the earth as well as on our long-suffering continent.

The UWA would be happy to join the Counter-Imperialist Alliance to provide for the defense of the weak against the strong, all over the earth as well as on our long-suffering continent.

We thank you for your interest and welcome you to the alliance. Alliance members: I'll telegram you all soon, and i'm going to set up a forum today!

Commorargh finds it amusing that you humans always band together. Enhances the pleasure of the hunt.....

Technocracia is here for any capitalists who want to feel less insecure than they really are.

Seek psychiatric assistance. It's strange how you and Iuthia tend to take everything out of proportions.

*bumpy di-bump*

Seek psychiatric assistance..

You should maybe offer that to the guy who made the post above yours. And probably yourself too ;) it might be buy one get one free?

You should maybe offer that to the guy who made the post above yours. And probably yourself too ;) it might be buy one get one free?

Worst comeback ever.

Worst comeback ever.


Worst comeback comeback ever!

Worst comeback ever.

Why are you still here?

More Bumpage!

bumpy bumpy!

Technocracia, if you want me to help out with the C.I.A. in any way then please feel free to TM me. I've just broken up from school and have w-a-y too much time on my hands. ;)

Why are you still here?

OOC: Because he spams like a champion. His last 5-6 posts on this thread have been nothing more then thread hyjacking with dull insults. I would suggest that if he continues you call a mod in.

IC:

As mentioned before Iuthia is interested in observing this alliance to assure others that they are in fact defending one another from Imperialism. However we are confident that this is the case.

Personally we have little interest in tying ourselves down in another group alliance, but we feel that we understand and respect the ideals of this alliance.

I request immediate aid from the members of the CIA and any nations that wish to help. A group of invaders have usurped power in the region North Pacific. They are currently holding nations there as hostages. Immediate aid is needed before the update (less then 2 hours) or this region will be lost to invaders.

10 nations are needed to enter the region North Pacific and endorse Unelion.

I request immediate aid from the members of the CIA and any nations that wish to help. A group of invaders have usurped power in the region North Pacific. They are currently holding nations there as hostages. Immediate aid is needed before the update (less then 2 hours) or this region will be lost to invaders.

10 nations are needed to enter the region North Pacific and endorse Unelion.

I cant help i'm afraid, my nation's not a UN member :( I'll post this on our forum though.

We would join, but we are no longer communists and quite imperialistic ourselves... times have changed.

Get outa here HP! Ya hear! Scram!
*uses brush to push HP away*

I cant help i'm afraid, my nation's not a UN member :( I'll post this on our forum though.

Could I have a link to these forums? Maybe it should be suggested that all members should at least make a puppet with UN capabilities?

*cough bumb cough*

*cough bumb cough*

I hope you mean bump???