NationStates Jolt Archive

"Our dear friends, the Metallinauts, have volunteered a testing ground for our Gate, Leon."

Supreme Overseer Leon Alexei Adler glanced up at his fellow member of the Thirteen and gave a cruel smirk.

"Right in the middle of their largest city, no less. Jolly decent of them, wouldn't you say?"

"Indeed, and it would be ever so rude to keep them waiting. Shall I order that the Gate be powered up?"

"Of course, Turel, it's your project, you do the honor"

Turel, member of the Thirteen, the group of immortals who ruled the Order of the Reptiles in its many incarnations throughout the millennia, walked over to a group of Shivan scientists that were preparing several nasty things that were to be loaded into the Gate and sent directly into the middle of the Metallinaut's largest civilian area. Septicemia, Monorugleticemia, a dozen other nasty plagues that were found to be nigh uncurable, a few 110 megaton nuclear warheads, parasites, spores, and much more were encased in preparation for their trip through the Tau Faerün Gate. Each promised a thousand nasty ways to die for the poor bastards on the other side of the Gate.

The Gate worked on the principle of a wormhole, which is one of the few natural occurances of a "fold" in time and space. It could provide near-instantaneous transportation to any targeted spot in the universe. A straight line, it is commonly believed, is the shortest and most direct way from point A to point B. Untrue, as are many popular beliefs. In fact, the line could be "folded", thus shortening the distance between the two points. Coupled with the ability to be directed to any spot at any time, it was one of the greatest discoveries of the age. So great that an entire worldstation had been constructed to defend, power, and house the Gate. Unbelievable amounts of power were needed to stabalize and sustain the power of a wormhole, so many secondary functions on the World Station had been replaced with additional generators. It was immobile, its engines having also been removed for more power. Yet it was well defended with a nice-sized fleet and lots of guns.

Essentially, the Gateways created were on their own "frequency" of space, and were thus impossible to track to anything not directly "tuned" to it. Entire armadas could appear behind an enemy without their noticing until it was too late. On a smaller scale, it could be pin-pointed to within a few meters to allow troop movements, deliveries, etc. "Grids" in hyperspace were not a serious problem, as gravitational shields were becoming standard equipment for anything planning on passing through.

The Gate didn't hum as it powered up. It didn't roar, or make a whistling noise from Star Trek. It made something along the lines of what a collapsing galaxy would sound like if anyone had survived seeing a galaxy collapse and told someone about it. The entire World-Station shook under the strain as trillions of units of power were fed into the Gate (The "Gate" itself is slightly larger than Russia, in case you needed some perspective). This continued for several minutes, during which time constant checks and scans were made to ensure that they were not facing imminent death at the hands of an exploding wormhole.

After half an hour, the noise subsided slightly, and it was agreed that it would be wise to stop pushing their luck and actually get the test underway. All of said nasty ways to die were loaded onto the platforms near the edge of the Gate while the coordinates were programmed in. The Gateway, until now a lot of swirling death, shimmered until it revealed the Metallinaut city. When the picture was perfectly clear, the nasty ways to die were sent with a roar/scream through the gateway, appearing barely a half second later on the other side.

(I'll be a fair-minded chap and let Metallinauts post his own losses. Keep in mind that if nothing less than the apocolypse happens, you will be committing blatant godmoddery. You have neither the technology nor the resources to stop this unprecendented attack)

The image on the Gate faded back into the limbo that it was before. More coordinates were input, a new picture was displayed, and nasty ways to die were sent screaming/roaring into a heavily-populated city in the Metallinauts territory. This repeated several dozen times, each time revealing a new location, each time more nasty ways to die were sent hurtling into a heavily populated area. The process took over three hours, but what they saw was more than worth the wait.

(Again, same deal)

The Thirteen gave the cruelest smiles imagineable, knowing what potential this device had and how it could affect the war in their favor.

The final set of coordinates was input. The computer brought up the name of a city, and the name of a nation:


...Gronde...


(Cliff-hanger)

OOC: Right, this probably sounds like total Godmod, but if you ask Jordaxia, I think you'll find that it's not. It works on the principle of a wormhole, as I said, which is the only natural fold in the time-space continuum that I know of. Knowing that I spent more than a real-life month designing this and making it believable (The original design was pure bull, until a chat with Jordaxia ironed out a lot of rough details). All we really had to do was take the power of a wormhole, sustain it, create another one that would link us to the desired location, and make it possible to travel through. Not too impossible or improbable. I have the full file on Word, if anyone disbelieves me this far. Anyway, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this...aw, hell, who am I kidding? I've been waiting for this for weeks! Metallinauts, it would have been wise to stay out of other peoples' business.

Intresting. Good thing that I have ways of detecting and collapsing wormholes efficiently.

OOC
I am sure nobody questions the principle of the wormhole.. perfectly plausible..

What people would more likely questionis the size of it.. the size of Russia?.. man, forego the diseases and whatnot and just suck the whole athmosphere or get the planet into the hole and collapse it..

my $.02 Varos

tag
Now we can move onto the next project.

bump,

Well we could just destroy the planet but Reptiles really really likes his plagues.

OOC: Alas..

CF: You forget, you have no idea this is happening, nor what is causing it. Furthermore, the wormhole is, as I said (But I forgot that you probably didn't read past the first ten sentences) very short-lived. It serves a purpose, then collapses. A one-way ticket is all the Gate guarantees. In short, kindly bugger off.

A: The Gate, and most main generators take up an area that is roughly the same size as Russia. A massive amount of power is required to create something like this, so anything smaller would be bordering on ridiculous. You forget that a World Station is, as IB said, the size of Jupiter, so this size is really not so absurd as you think. Most of the Station is reactors, generators, and defense mechanisms. As few technicians are needed, living quarters and food stores are largely unnecessary. Most of the functions are computer controlled, so a skeleton crew is all that is required. Anyway, you're right about the potential to collapse the planet. I'm saving that for after the Metallinaut people have suffered a bit.

IB: *Grin* I sure do, I sure do...Make no mistake about it, I fully intend to destroy the miserable spit of rock after his people have suffered agonizing deaths, not to mention a few apocolypses.

Ekardia: What, pray tell, is the next project? Fill me in sometime later, eh?

I haven't exactly made this thread in secret, so I wonder why he has yet to show? Guess I'll give him a customary TM.

OOC: Alas..

CF: You forget, you have no idea this is happening, nor what is causing it. Furthermore, the wormhole is, as I said (But I forgot that you probably didn't read past the first ten sentences) very short-lived. It serves a purpose, then collapses. A one-way ticket is all the Gate guarantees. In short, kindly bugger off.

A: The Gate, and most main generators take up an area that is roughly the same size as Russia. A massive amount of power is required to create something like this, so anything smaller would be bordering on ridiculous. You forget that a World Station is, as IB said, the size of Jupiter, so this size is really not so absurd as you think. Most of the Station is reactors, generators, and defense mechanisms. As few technicians are needed, living quarters and food stores are largely unnecessary. Most of the functions are computer controlled, so a skeleton crew is all that is required. Anyway, you're right about the potential to collapse the planet. I'm saving that for after the Metallinaut people have suffered a bit.

IB: *Grin* I sure do, I sure do...Make no mistake about it, I fully intend to destroy the miserable spit of rock after his people have suffered agonizing deaths, not to mention a few apocolypses.

Ekardia: What, pray tell, is the next project? Fill me in sometime later, eh?

I haven't exactly made this thread in secret, so I wonder why he has yet to show? Guess I'll give him a customary TM.


I love this guy, hes just so delightfully evil. LOL

This is a Bump BTW.

OOC: Alas..

CF: You forget, you have no idea this is happening, nor what is causing it. Furthermore, the wormhole is, as I said (But I forgot that you probably didn't read past the first ten sentences) very short-lived. It serves a purpose, then collapses. A one-way ticket is all the Gate guarantees. In short, kindly bugger off. .

OOC: Alas you failed to realize that that was an OOC comment. I fully know that I have no IC information about this yet. I'm merely saying that this'll only work on me once. After that, I'll know to keep an eye out for wormholes forming in my cities, and I'll know to collapse them soon after they open.

I'd be willing to accept ravenous shivans coming through the gate, but plagues and n00ks are a no no for me. I feel that they don't really make for good RP. Especially if there is no real way to RP except for "OMG I am dead! Ur n00x killzor me!"

Against Shivan infantry or vehicles, I at least have a chance to RP some sort of resistance. With nukes, that isn't an option. You understand what I mean?

bump

OOC: *starts a dance of joy* someone attacking Gronde i hope, anyway nice attack sneaky and effective i like it

OOC: I understand fully, old boy. And apologies for the misunderstanding. Whereas how I handled this doesn't make for a long and enjoyable RP, I wasn't planning on one in the first place. This marks the first step in the Shivan bid to crush the competition. As I said somewhere else, I play to win, and I know full well that sending in infantry would be a foolish venture. I could send in several million, if he'd prefer, as my Shivan Order is divided into soldiers, engineers, scientists, and pilots. A quarter of 1.5 billion is something like 350-390 million (off the top of my head). I'm saving up the good RPs for later, and it promises to be spectacular. For now, I'm simply getting rid of some competition. Whereas in modern tech I'd have played fair and sent in cannon fod...er, infantry, as a Shivan I have no use for finesse. Besides, he's a big boy, so I doubt that I killed him completely off. No, I intend to deliver the coup de grace when I "ripple" the wormhole.

I'm ignoring this attack, since it is an obvious godmod. Regardless of the time or effort put into it, instant transportation has always been a godmod, since it allows the defender no time to prepare. This is an example of that: you've given me no time to prepare, at all. I have also consulted with my greatest ally and mentor, The Mindset and he concurs with this.

I beleive they call it surprise...

I beleive they call it surprise...

OOC: As far as I was aware, true suprise attacks on NS were always preplanned. This one wasn't prepared in advance, so Metallinauts is entitled to ignore it at his leisure.

I beleive they call it surprise...
"attack", its not really instant transportation, im pritty shore there is a delay between when the thing goes in and when the thing comes out, all he/she needs to do is open the otherside just as his forces are coming to that point, really lots of FTLi can be called instant Tranportation, hell why ruin a good chance to a decent RP (i admit it puts you at a Disadvantage but hay so was England during the 2nd world war lol)

I'm confused as to why I should care what the Mindset concurs with.

Corpsac is totally correct. You see, and as I'm fairly sure I explained, I'm merely "folding" space, not eliminating it. There is a delay, it is just so short as to make it a pointless venture to try to measure. There IS a delay, thus it is a sneak attack, and not some uber cheating shiznit. But I told you this already, so if you wuss out of it, your loss. I can give you twenty four hours to take it like a man. If not, then I WILL assume your losses for you, and whereas that might seem like cheating, so is ignoring a legit attack. You will suffer 98% fatalities worldwide, all major cities will be leveled, all government will be dead, and your planet will be blown apart when the wormhole "ripples".

As for the Mindset's two cents, this attack was obviously preplanned. I didn't just spontaneously draw straws to see who I attacked. I had planned in advance to crush Metallinauts, for several reasons which are, for our purposes, irrevelant. Therefore, it was a premeditated attack, and Metallinauts is NOT free to ignore at his leisure. Unless he wants me to assume his losses for him, and like I said, that won't be pretty.
Although I am free to question: Why would it matter if I just stood up, turned on the Gate, and launched stuff at Metallinauts without any thought beforehand? I'm still doing it, and it's still a sneak attack. If you had no time to prepare...well...DUH! It was a freakin' sneak attack. Like Corpsac said, did Britain bitch about godmodding when Hitler sent bombs up their rears?


Jordaxia figured you'd try to shrug it off like this. My advice is quite simple: Don't.

OOC: However, i suppose both points are valid, merely get a chance to talk, cut some of the attack out, round it up a bit, clean it up, and hey presto you have a workable RP! and anyways.. always be prepared ;).

OOC: However, i suppose both points are valid, merely get a chance to talk, cut some of the attack out, round it up a bit, clean it up, and hey presto you have a workable RP! and anyways.. always be prepared ;).
OOC: she has a point plus there seems like no reason behind the attack

Haha, good to have a fair-minded mediator around here. I tried explaining how this worked to him, but he didn't seem eager to listen, and instead told me why he was ignoring it. I hate to do this, because it hardly seems fair (Especially as I have a long and rich history as a skilled roleplayer), but if he doesn't come to terms, I will have to do as I said.

I was toying with the idea of exaggerating a lapse while the Gate recharged, during which time he could flee the planet with some military vessels and a few civilians. Then he wouldn't be totally fragged, and could plot vengeance. Or perhaps some of the plagues were already vaccinated (Which is stretching things a bit) and some of the bombs flew off course and hit some uninhabited area. This is more likely, because the Gate is still being tested. So we're talking...60% fatalities. That's more than enough for him to gather himself together and rebuild. The thing I won't accept is him ignoring the attack outright.

EDIT: I said that I had my reasons, dude. Not that I see how it would make a difference, like I said earlier, but I DID have reasons for the attack. First and formost of these is that he's a very large ESUS nation. Prime realty for a Gate test. The Shivans seek to annihilate ALL competition, and I hardly see them as being picky as to who they slaughter. That alone should be enough reason.

Anyway, we've killed my thread enough with OOC's.

He is free to ignore any attack, since that is how ignoring works. You cannot, under and circumstances, declare losses for someone else, since that is a godmod. If he ignores you and you declare loses, it doesn't matter, since it never happened to him, and the losses never occurred.

By preplanning I meant contacting Metallinauts, and OOCly, planning the RP. You don't just appear on someones doorstep with your entire fleet and wipe out their homeplanet. Metallinauts would have had to agree to lose a planet, in the first place.

OOC: also i notice some more mistakes simple ones i know but still:

1) you never stated what planet you were attacking (you cant say his homeworld if you dont know the name lol that would be silly), as Meallinaut is a space tech nation its easy to assume that he has more then 1 planet (maby not more then 1 system but thats up to him/her)
2) you stated largest city now thats the most carppy (not afence ment) way of saying what your targeting if you dont state the planet as it means metallinauts could say you just attacked a newly settled planet with about 50,000 people and the largest city has 10,000 people in it
3) as soon as the wormholes started to form (and it does take time maby a few minutes but still takes time) and people saw it he could in theory send troops, fighters etc to there to investergate (considering the shivan war is goin on im shore that all of us in the ESUS are paranoid)
4) there is no 4th i can see (tho im shore someone si going to say there is a 4th)

now my rant to Metallinauts:

as i stated on the ESUS board and here (up there ^) he never stated a planet, so just say he attacked a small planet (newly settled, non important what ever) to be fair its rather funny as The Order of Reptiles kinda screwed up this attack by not stateing a planet, meaning you can claim as little loses as you like and he cant complain as he/she never stated what planet so in theroy this could have all happened for exsample on a newly settled planet with little value. to be fair you have the bigger advantage here due to the misstakes done by The Order of Reptiles.

right thats my last post here unless this RP kicks off

Here's my 2 cents: It was a properly executed, nice long post. This is space tech, and thus, I think Reptiles COULD sustain a wormhole. Lastly, I use the EXACT same thing for some ship movements and weapons transport. This just gives me more new evil ideas. [Reptiles, try send some of my IDD grenades through them. They're like grenades that make a smaller scale, short lived black hole. They're just an extremely dense metal, wrapped around an explosive core, and the whole thing is coated in diamond. The explosive weakens the metal, and leaves a space in the center, so it implodes.

OOC: Reptiles, check out the thread on Terracostes. They work as Space cruisers, for space tech nations. They use the electromagnets to cruise off the cores of planets, and can be fitted with whatever weapons you want AND prism engines, which work on the opposite theory of prism cannons. NO extra cost, since it needs to be space worthy for space-tech nations

Idea for a Russia-sized Stargate: (Apologies to McGravin and the Maggott)

Suck out a planet's core, and watch as the planet collapses on itself and its atmospere bleeds off into space because of not enough gravity to sustain it.

Not because it'd necessarily be effective, but it'd give you nice materials, look really cool, and only piss off the half of the galaxy that's too self-preservative or weak or whatever to go after anything with a Russia-sized Stargate anyway.

Idea for a Russia-sized Stargate: (Apologies to McGravin and the Maggott)

Suck out a planet's core, and watch as the planet collapses on itself and its atmospere bleeds off into space because of not enough gravity to sustain it.

Not because it'd necessarily be effective, but it'd give you nice materials, look really cool, and only piss off the half of the galaxy that's too self-preservative or weak or whatever to go after anything with a Russia-sized Stargate anyway.
It's only one way, from the Stargate. And the cores of most planets are molten...

OOC: Everyone, read this, it's hilarious. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343876&page=1&pp=15

OOC: As you have failed to specify the planet which the attack was specified, I will allow it.
IC: The moon of Klan'Yaran was hit with a ferocious barrage of all types of weapons, as a result a cataclysmic accident occured and the planets core exploded. Killing All 10,000 inhabitants.
OOC: Congratulations you just killed 10,000 Prisoners. Next time tg as I will be more than happy to plan with you, and you will respect what Mindset has to say.

OOC: As you have failed to specify the planet which the attack was specified, I will allow it.
IC: The moon of Klan'Yaran was hit with a ferocious barrage of all types of weapons, as a result a cataclysmic accident occured and the planets core exploded. Killing All 10,000 inhabitants.
OOC: Congratulations you just killed 10,000 Prisoners. Next time tg as I will be more than happy to plan with you, and you will respect what Mindset has to say.
OOC: No, we won't respect mindset. Since he's wrong.

Haha, good to have a fair-minded mediator around here. I tried explaining how this worked to him, but he didn't seem eager to listen, and instead told me why he was ignoring it. I hate to do this, because it hardly seems fair (Especially as I have a long and rich history as a skilled roleplayer), but if he doesn't come to terms, I will have to do as I said.

I was toying with the idea of exaggerating a lapse while the Gate recharged, during which time he could flee the planet with some military vessels and a few civilians. Then he wouldn't be totally fragged, and could plot vengeance. Or perhaps some of the plagues were already vaccinated (Which is stretching things a bit) and some of the bombs flew off course and hit some uninhabited area. This is more likely, because the Gate is still being tested. So we're talking...60% fatalities. That's more than enough for him to gather himself together and rebuild. The thing I won't accept is him ignoring the attack outright.

EDIT: I said that I had my reasons, dude. Not that I see how it would make a difference, like I said earlier, but I DID have reasons for the attack. First and formost of these is that he's a very large ESUS nation. Prime realty for a Gate test. The Shivans seek to annihilate ALL competition, and I hardly see them as being picky as to who they slaughter. That alone should be enough reason.

Anyway, we've killed my thread enough with OOC's.
First off, if tyou are agood RPer I fail to see it here
Second There was no reason behind your attack as you said on AIM "I chose you because you were the first name you saw"
Thirdly POSTING DAMAGE FOR YOUR ENEMY IS A GOD MOD!!!
Fourthly I can choose to ignore a reasonable attack as well as a god mod if I so choose, you have no say.

All of your points are mistaken. However, I fail to see the gain in arguing with someone as misled and stubborn as you make yourself out to be. You ignore me, thus you hereby ignore all Shivan nations. You no longer have any part in the war, nor can you ever rejoin. For the intents of the Shivans, all went according to plan with the Gate. You are now a few piles of dust to the Shivans. You exist as normal to everyone but the Shivans. You can offer no aid in battle to anyone who is fighting the Shivans. You don't exist to us, we don't exist to you. This is fair, and you will not argue it.

JJR and Ground State, I like the ideas and I'll keep 'em in mind.

Corpsac: You're right, although I expected him to be a little less bitchy. The attack WAS a test, so I didn't necessarily need him to be annihilated. It doesn't matter a whole lot anymore, since he doesn't "exist".


This thread is now at an end. You have seen what the Gate can do, regardless of the whining and moaning. It will be used frequently in future, so get to work on figuring out how to prevent it.


Remember kids, power gaming is NOT godmodding, whatever you were brought up to think. I don't really care about contacting my unworthy adversaries beforehand, as I'm more concerned about building up to a clash with Jordaxia. We have settled the entire thing ahead of time, so whatever happens between now and then is inconsequential.

A pair of Aurora bombers, responding to the disruption of the quantum filaments.

"Denali Lead this is Denali Two. I think I've figured out what's going on. Recommend dropping the inhibitors. Over."
"Denali Two this is Denali Lead. Confirmed. Drop in three. Over."

The bomb bay doors on the pair of Auroras opened. The Distortion shielding protecting the bombers from the gate's effects flickered and faded. Twelve small pods dropped from the bombers and the shields reactivated. Three pods were ripped apart before the others activated. Within a twelve thousand kilometer radius, the quantum filaments of reality were tightened and sealed. The distortion shields were eliminated, leaving only the conversion shields on the bombers. But it did something else as well. It shut down the gate.



This is the technical data on the inhibitor, straight from the ESUS boards.
While the device has yet to be field tested, Feazanthia has developed a way to stop both subspace tears and subspace shielding. With recent developments in Slipstream travel Feazanthian Navigational Computers, or NavCom, can detect when the quantum filaments of normal space are out of alignment, signaling either a tear from the Slipstream...or subspace. As only Feazanthian craft use Slipstream drives, all ships are equipped with transponder codes to override the subspace inhibitors. If no codes are recieved, a sort of quantum 'plug' is placed over the tear within milliseconds of its detection. At this point, one of two things will happen depending on how quickly the plug was applied. Either the tear on the other side will be closed or the ship initiating the tear will be destroyed as they collide with the plugged event horizon.

The inhibitor also works on subspace shielding by applying the same principles. The constant tear that subspace shielding creates is completely anihilated and filaments repaired by the inhibitor.

Ok i completely agree with your theory however i dont believe it could work on the larger shields of my capital ships. Your inhibitors while reparing the filimants will have a limited power supply however the larger ships will essentialy be able to give more power to break the strings than you will be able to repair them. Essentialy it will be whoever has more power will be able to win.

The theory is sound however do you have enough power to out produce the Gargantuan?

A really large and powerful reactor. He slipstreams/warps/whatevers in a special interdictor capital ship, and hits you with a boatload of power before you can react. Hence you have no time to raise your power level to anything higher than Feazanthia's.

really, you see i disagree, the Gargantuan and other subspace shielded ships are in fact mostly hollow, they are essentialy mobile power generators and i do think that the power generated by my ships will be instantly higher than his considdering i use 4 diffrent types of energy generation but meh well see how it goes.

All of your points are mistaken. However, I fail to see the gain in arguing with someone as misled and stubborn as you make yourself out to be. You ignore me, thus you hereby ignore all Shivan nations. You no longer have any part in the war, nor can you ever rejoin. For the intents of the Shivans, all went according to plan with the Gate. You are now a few piles of dust to the Shivans. You exist as normal to everyone but the Shivans. You can offer no aid in battle to anyone who is fighting the Shivans. You don't exist to us, we don't exist to you. This is fair, and you will not argue it.

JJR and Ground State, I like the ideas and I'll keep 'em in mind.

Corpsac: You're right, although I expected him to be a little less bitchy. The attack WAS a test, so I didn't necessarily need him to be annihilated. It doesn't matter a whole lot anymore, since he doesn't "exist".


This thread is now at an end. You have seen what the Gate can do, regardless of the whining and moaning. It will be used frequently in future, so get to work on figuring out how to prevent it.


Remember kids, power gaming is NOT godmodding, whatever you were brought up to think. I don't really care about contacting my unworthy adversaries beforehand, as I'm more concerned about building up to a clash with Jordaxia. We have settled the entire thing ahead of time, so whatever happens between now and then is inconsequential.
DO not speak for others if the other Shivans with to Ignore me that is their perrogative not yours. As I have no problems with IB, Ekardia or US.

OOC:
The Order of Reptiles, you clearly have no idea what free form role playing, fundimentally, is. And you clearly don't care at all about your fellow roleplayers, either.

You see, the basic principal is that the defender is the only person who has any right at all to determin what effects an attack has. Naturally, they have to respond plausibly, or they loose the respect of their fellow roleplayers, and are ignored, but the audasity of trying to claim someone else's losses? That's just as bad, if not worse.

There is also the 'cheap shot' factor; plausibility is not justification. If it was, I could have used my interstellar artillery to displace a mid-detonation planet-cracker into the Shiva a few days ago when it was facing off against one of my ships. The point of roleplaying is for all of those involved to have fun; coming out of the blue and basicly telling someone, "Oh, by the way, I've just wiped out a couple hundred million of your people, probally your entire government, and possibly most of your military infastructure," is not something many folks would go along with. You get OOC permission for a devistating suprise attack like you pulled off first, or most folks will rightly ignore you; if you don't get ooc permission ahead of time, you atleast execute your attack in such a way that the deffenders have a chance to try and stop you. Arranging things OOCly also allows you to be a little more specific than 'largest city' or a 'major world'; yaknow, actually learn about what yer facing. It would have been pretty funny if after typing all that out, you discovered that they had an FTLi system in place that blocked wormholes, 'cause, yaknow, I do, for example.

RP is about people having fun; you seem far too focused on 'winning' and don't seem to care nearly enough about having mutually entertaining RP with anyone who gets in your way. You simply seek to crush them out of hand; that might work ICly, but OOCly, cheap shots typicly make for lame RP.

OOC:
The Order of Reptiles, you clearly have no idea what free form role playing, fundimentally, is. And you clearly don't care at all about your fellow roleplayers, either.

You see, the basic principal is that the defender is the only person who has any right at all to determin what effects an attack has. Naturally, they have to respond plausibly, or they loose the respect of their fellow roleplayers, and are ignored, but the audasity of trying to claim someone else's losses? That's just as bad, if not worse.

There is also the 'cheap shot' factor; plausibility is not justification. If it was, I could have used my interstellar artillery to displace a mid-detonation planet-cracker into the Shiva a few days ago when it was facing off against one of my ships. The point of roleplaying is for all of those involved to have fun; coming out of the blue and basicly telling someone, "Oh, by the way, I've just wiped out a couple hundred million of your people, probally your entire government, and possibly most of your military infastructure," is not something many folks would go along with. You get OOC permission for a devistating suprise attack like you pulled off first, or most folks will rightly ignore you; if you don't get ooc permission ahead of time, you atleast execute your attack in such a way that the deffenders have a chance to try and stop you. Arranging things OOCly also allows you to be a little more specific than 'largest city' or a 'major world'; yaknow, actually learn about what yer facing. It would have been pretty funny if after typing all that out, you discovered that they had an FTLi system in place that blocked wormholes, 'cause, yaknow, I do, for example.

RP is about people having fun; you seem far too focused on 'winning' and don't seem to care nearly enough about having mutually entertaining RP with anyone who gets in your way. You simply seek to crush them out of hand; that might work ICly, but OOCly, cheap shots typicly make for lame RP.
Amen

iM IGNORING YOU

Who me or Kanuck, cause if it is me, well lets say you have already kicked your own ass and dropped out of the war.