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Seeing there is a bit of confusion between modern and post-modern, and what is acceptable in them, I've decided that a new time period should be invented to better describe what many NS players are forced to refer to as modern.

The definitions as they stand:
Modern: 1950-2020, with semi realistic technology progression.
Post Modern: When someone calls BS on a technology, the person that owns it will usually say they are Post Modern, so it is acceptable.

Clarified Definitions:
Modern: 1950-2020, with totally realistic technology progression.
Post Modern: 2004-2020, with some big projects completed early.
Supermodern: The most realistic tech setting in the NS world. Seeing as there are so many giant countries that will cooperate to develop technologies, they can be made much earlier than possible in real life. Something like the Doujin could never see the light of day in real life, but in NS it makes more sense. Cheap, space-capable craft are obviously nowhere near ready in real life, but when you have several trillion dollars and 4 countries bigger than China working on them, you'd better believe they'd be done. Essentially, Supermodern is how technology would develop in a world as well funded and competitive as NS.

Discuss!

How about we call it near-future?

How about we call it near-future?

I second the motion.

How about we call it near-future?

Because its not really near future by real life standards. I call it super modern because it is possible technology, just it isn't possible in the real world because it could never see the same amount of support as it does in NS. I again cite superships like the Doujin as an example: In real life, the Doujin is not a near future vessel, but in NS it can be.

Sounds good to me. If nothing else, it will DEFINITELY make my airships plausible.

Axis Nova

Well, I don't think supermodern makes any sense... People would think that post-modern would be after supermodern...

With near-future, it would make more sense...

Near-future doesn't suggest the same thing as supermodern. Near-future sounds like something in the real world whereas supermodern suggests a greater version of modern, in this case only possible in NS. Near-future and post-modern are synonomous whereas supermodern sounds like a whole nother category(which it is).

Supermodern is an exclusively NS politics term.
Near-future/post-modern are real world terms.

I think I see where this is going... technologies and militaries that could be developed using modern-day sciences, but haven't in the real world because there are so many fewer nations and advanced nations.

Hmmm... Sounds spiffy.

Well let's see

Supercavitating vessels are considered post 2020, 2040, maybe 2030 at supermodern. But I only use them in certain circumstances, such as fighting nations that are futuristic (2020+)

Well, I have a system that projects sensory information to the human brain without direct connection that I made with Kotterdam... They can do green dots now, so I guess that's supermodern tech.

I have a system that allows infantry leaders to use the aforementioned device (ANTARES/TARGETS) to seamlessly integrate their squads, with wireless technology and computers that would be considered supermodern.

I have a laser system that can be mounted on fighters that DARPA intends to have by 2025. That's supermodern.

Although these systems are only used when an RP tech level doesn't want it (I'm flexible), I suppose with my civilian tech (800 meter high arcologies, orbital power grids, floating city states), I might be supermodern on most given days.

Ximea is hereby considered supermodern.

I feel as though this should be BUMPED for more visibility

I was actually working on a model something like that...

Modern tech
Possible tech (what could be done today in a year or two if enough money was thrown at it)
Post Modern (possible in 5-30 years, requires one or two breakthroughs)
near future (space ships, lasers, plasma weapons, brain to brain connections, genetically desigining individual people, personal powerd body armor that's effective, AI...)
Futuretech (FTL, psyonics...)

BA based off of BLEEX could be done in ten years or less if a nation had my resources. My whole theory on the tech bracket thing is that it's fluid. If someone makes a breakthough at the 2020 tech level, it'll slowly percolate to everyone who wants to use it and once it becomes readily accepted as "modern" by NS standards and people move on to the next breakthrough. For example, I field a lot of bleeding edge 2020 tech in the ground and at sea but suffer in the aerospace field because I have almost no indigenous industry or experience in that area save weapons and sub-systems. It's the big handicap to my expertise in other areas, which makes the whole situation more acceptable to any potential opponents.