NationStates Jolt Archive

Breaking news: Kahta has just announced that in conclusion to the missile attack on the NS Kahta, a CVNX Class carrier, yesterday, the missile was made in Sevaris. They will not say how they came to this conclusion, but they said it came from the mainland of Sevaris. The military has placed 600 B-1's on a rotation schuedle, in the event war breaks out.

Chellis denounces sevaris for repeated attacks against kahta, both killing its pilots and striking its ships. Chellis see's no reason why sevaris shouldnt be burned to the ground.

It is now expected that is Sevaris does not back down, Kahta will initiate a conventional strike against anyone backing Sevaris, against their military assets near Sevaris.

OOC: You do realize that this is considered godmodding right?

You can't RP the actions of another nation. In other words... you can't use this attack as a justification for war, because Sevaris never actually launched the missile.

OOC: You do realize that this is considered godmodding right?

You can't RP the actions of another nation. In other words... you can't use this attack as a justification for war, because Sevaris never actually launch the missile.

OOC: It could be lies, or they could have TG'ed this, or something else. Hes not nessecairaly godmodding.

OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342747&page=2&pp=15

"Sir, incoming missiles three O'Clockl!"

"Sound general quarters, send a message out to the fleet. Engage all countermeasures."

The klaxon sounded and the sailors rushed to their batte stations. The missile was within range of the CIWS of the carrier. The 5 Barrel cannons opened fire...

It was too late. The NS Kahta was struck in the side by an unknown missile.


As you can see, Kahta chose to cripple his own ship via an "unknown" missile, to allow him to declare war.

This is godmodding at it's finest. He deliberately chose to RP the actions of another country, so he could look like a non-aggressor.

ooc: I think the point of this thread is that looks can be decieving, Well atleast in my eyes...

OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342747&page=2&pp=15


As you can see, Kahta chose to cripple his own ship via an "unknown" missile, to allow him to declare war.

This is godmodding at it's finest. He deliberately chose to RP the actions of another country, so he could look like a non-aggressor.

He never said that sevaris actually did it. He said it was a sevaris missile. Also, he could be lying that it was a sevaris missile. He never actually controlled sevaris.

Tyrandis, stop whining, jesus.

OOC: Whatever the case... I'm ignoring Kahta if he chooses to use this weak post as justification for war.

OOC: Whatever the case... I'm ignoring Kahta if he chooses to use this weak post as justification for war.

OOC: Then you are a bad RPer. But what else is new, I suppose.

Then again, I guess you know all about controlling other peoples nations. Algeria...

OOC: Historically countries have used lies as a justification for war. Vietnam, WWII, and GW II come to mind.

(OOC: I hate to say it, but I agree with Chellis on this one, so far. If Kahta maintains OOC that Sevaris did it, and Sevaris says OOC that he didn't, then it's Godmodding. If Kahta's government/military is merely lying however, it's nothing unusual. Germany attacked its own radio stations on the Polish border in the 1930s and blamed Poland, justifying the invasion. Of course no one believed them, but that proves that what Kahta may be doing (if his nation is lying) has real life precident and is not Godmodding (it's not cricket, either, of course!).)

More information about the missile:

There is no hard evidence that it was from Sevaris, our investigators however, determined that it was launched from the direction of Sevaris, and based on the speed it was traveling at, it was in the glide phase that all missiles have after the fuel has been depleted. Another indicator was that it struck the direct center of the ship under the superstructure.

OOC: This is propaganda and someone who does not understand that is not worth RPing.

IC:

Our intelligence has confirmed the Kahtian information: it was indeed a Sevarian missile, a missile launched in a coward attempt to gain some advantage without getting retaliation, we condemn this.
Also, we remind you that all these things started because of Kahta´s desire to interfeer in the politics of Kahta... we must not tolerate these agressions anymore.



OOC.: already corrected...

Also, we remmind all of you that all these things started because of Kahta's desire to interfer in the politics of Kahta... we must not tolerate this agressions anymore.

LOL!

OOC: If it is just a lie then, it's acceptable. Never mind then... Just attribute previous posts to excess Final Fantasy XI playing.

OOC: If it is just a lie then, it's acceptable. Never mind then... Just attribute previous posts to excess Final Fantasy XI playing.


OOC: I never said it was a lie. I just stated that it was most likley.

We would be most interested to see this "proof." Of course this is not likely to be the case. An additional twenty SSBNs (10 Delta-V, 10 Typhoon) have been ordered to sea with escorting SSNs.

If you use nuclear weapons I will use them too. Do not even consider it.

Kahta has just called 5 armies to duty.

Merely to reciprocate your use of B-1Bs, which are after all a delivery platform for nuclear armaments. No-first-use is the official policy of DPUO. And anyway, if we were to use nuclear weapons, we'd use the heavy SS-18 Mod 4s and 6s to take out as much of your nuclear arsenal as possible. Not that it would matter in a nuclear war or anything.

Kahta has just called 5 armies to duty.


I suggest Kahta hire all CM PMC companies still available to be hired.

I suggest Kahta hire all CM PMC companies still available to be hired.

How many soldiers is this?

How many soldiers is this?



CM Private Military Corporations


Vertical Envelopment: 10 Parachute Divisions, each based on the standard CM organization except they each have only 250 C-130s and 100 Mi-24s. They are all Ex-Paratroopers, they have OICW and XM8s, they are organized into standard CM armed forces division organization. Cost 100 billion per month


Decisive Victory: 10 Heavy Infantry Divisions organized along the lines of standard CM Infantry Divisions. These soldiers are Ex-Republican Guardsmen. Their basic weapons are XM8s and OICWs. Each division has a brigade of artillery support (50 155mm howitzers, and 200 120mm mortars) At the company level there are 81mm mortars. Also the units have MILANs, Stingers, and other such weaponry. Cost 200 billion per month for their services.


Note the standard organizations these are based on are as follows. But the PMC units have less planes, less heavy artillery, and more helicopters and fast moving vehicles.

A Parachute Division (Each 18,000 paratroopers, 500 C-130s to transport men and equipment, 2,500 hummers (1,500 M998, 400 M1043, 500 M1025, and 100 M1035) assorted light vehicles (200 M1083 Standard Cargo Trucks), shoulder launched weaponry (AT and AA), mortars, light artillery, and assorted reconnaissance vehicles)

An Infantry Division (Each 18,000 Heavy Infantry transported by trucks and light vehicles, 400 towed Howitzers and other artillery, 200 SA-19 Mobile SAM, and other assorted light artillery and support units)

OOC: What other nations are in the vicinity of Sevaris? As in, what other nations could possibly have been responsible for the launch of the missile, if your investigators' claims are true.

IC:
The House President tentatively supports Kahta on this issue, but the House has not finished deliberating and wishes for hard evidence before they decide who to support.
In other words, we would like for an independent source's verification or hard evidence sent by either side to prove or disprove these actions.

This is an absolute lie. We did not attack their ship at all. At the time of the attack on the NS Kahta, no missiles or any other warheads were fired by Missile Command. However, if Kahta attacks us- we will respond with full force.

This is an absolute lie. We did not attack their ship at all. At the time of the attack on the NS Kahta, no missiles or any other warheads were fired by Missile Command. However, if Kahta attacks us- we will respond with full force.

The claim that the missile is sevaris in origin, not that sevaris nessecairaly fired them.

Crookfur would of course Ask the Question: Does Sevaris actually produce it's own missiles? or does it use ones aquired from else where?

OOC: This is so godmodded. Sevaris never said he fired anything, you just said your carrier was hit by a missile.

OOC: Yeah, I know he didn't, but this isn't unusual. There are numerous examples in history where there has been a staged "attack" to give justification for a war.

OOC: This is so godmodded. Sevaris never said he fired anything, you just said your carrier was hit by a missile.

OOC: If you accuse me of godmodding when it has been clearly explained to you the situation several times, I will not hesitate to ignore you using the "Ignore Command".

We never fired anything at the time of the attack on the Kahta. End of story.