NationStates Jolt Archive

All the guests at Iuthia Station had been waiting for this moment, preparing their part in the moment of truth for the Fedral Union. Each of them had their own motives and agendas, each looking to gain something from the experience.

Many of the guests had been at the station for at least one night, the artificial gravity a little lower then the normal 1G of Earth. Some of them may have spent their time relaxing, prepared or otherwise, in the stations many facilities. Others spent their time reading up on the situation, learning what they could before the big day. One or two of the guests spent this time talking to others, co-ordinating their actions for the next day, convincing the other of guilt or innocence.

The talks were not about judgement or blame, but it wouldn't stop the guests from doing so in order to try and achieve their goals. Some of them came only to watch and learn what they can about other nations, as information would clearly be presented. Some would try and make conections with the attending nations, improving relations with their support and showing their care with their wisdom. Others may even try and squeeze what they could, or even get their revenge.

Regardless of their motives; it was now time for the conference to talk place. The guests were summoned to conference area, each representative to be escorted by Iuthian Security, only permitted a couple of their aides should they wish... though Gaunts were expressely denied.

Weapons were not permitted to be taken from their sectors, only the Iuthian Security were armed and their weapons were more then capable of stopping those who incisted on Powered Armour should it pose a threat.

The conference hall itself looked like it had orgininally started out as a war room, the lights directly above were filtered slightly to make the light less harsh, but they illuminated the large room well. All around stood attentive security personel, perhaps ten split up into individuals around the edges.

In the middle of the room was a large circle table designed to fit about twenty five people in all, each place at the table had a small monitor which displayed the same image as the large tactical monitor at the front of the room. There was also a glass of water prepared as well as other little useful additions. The table itself was clearly wooden, a fine oak, however the table had be given a green felt, much like a poker table, it seemed fitting concidering.

The Lord General, who would be over seeing the conference, would be sitting at the place closest to the front of the room, his back to the large tactical monitor. It wouldn't be too important and the smaller monitors in the table would help just in case.

As each and every member made their way to the conference hall, Lord General James deGritz, announced the starting agenda:

"I thank you all for coming to our peace conference and trusting us enough to attend our station, as you have probably noticed we are doing everything in our power to make sure you are safe and that we can get to business without any problems poping up.

"Clearly this conference is not in order for Iuthia to make peace with other space nations, we have had over 150 years of peace. These talks are being held to help The Fedral Union get out of their spiral of war and hatred, though I should note that they are not the only ones.

"Today I hope we can end these wars, they are nothing more then grudge matches serving no one and killing innocents on either side. These wars will slowly destroy one another and weaken them to more imperialistic threats.

"Now let us begin with an formal introduction of one another, so we can respect one anothers standing and whom they stand for. Afterwards we can start looking at one anothers grievances so we can concentrate on the problems we are to solve today. I will start us off...

James deGritz was in reasonable shape for a 46 years old man, he had lived a full life with many strange happenings and he made a point of keeping in shape. His hair still had color, though the grey hairs were now joining his normal hazel military cut hair. He wore the uniform of an Iuthian general, though his chevrons clearly marked him of a higher rank, Lord General.

He continued:

"I am James deGritz, leader of the Iuthian People and benevolent dictator over the nation Iuthia, I am here to act as an overseer to make sure this conference stays on topic and to help act as a middleman when both parties agree."

OOC: Sign up thread + OOC Issues (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338098)


Please can all people currently at the conference keep all OOC conversations and arguments in the original thread so not to clog up this thread. You should also keep RP which is outside the conference hall (i.e the meetings with one another last night and when you leave the room for a private chat) in this thread so that we can stay on topic. I will OOC warn you once if I think you are posting in the wrong place.

Also note the rules which I will repeat for your convenience:


Ok guys, this is the part where I lay down the rules of the thread because I'm expecting that with both TFU and his enemies near one another this could turn ugly and we all need to remember this statement:

It's just a game.


Thats right, we're this is just another part of the NS story and as such I'd like to keep OOC crap out of the conference itself.

Please no insulting one another unless it's IC, in which case you are liable for IC reactions, please don't give people trouble because their RP isn't what you want, please don't be pedantic over spelling mistakes... we all have trouble.

Further more I'm placing the conference under OMG security, or Oh My God security to give you a better idea of what I'm implying... Basically it's impossible to beat my security for this event, you are 100% safe while at this event because this is meant to be peaceful, not a terrorist RP.

However, if you get permission from all parties involved (Myself and the Victim) you can do things like beat the security and perhaps even kill someone, but OOC all of us will know about it... if you don't like it then don't come and don't complain about it.

Attempts to terrorise the event will automatically fail, but can be RPed so long as this is accepted... it's just that you won't suceed without permission from the people you are doing it on.

Finally, no spamming or flaming. Anyone can come and anyone can post in this thread, but if you spam or flame in either thread I will warn you once, the second warning will be from a Moderator, I will not stand by and have this degenerate into a mud slinging contest.

Thanks, hope you enjoy the RP, I will be adding to this as we start because I want to limit pictures... but otherwise just have fun, you can RP your technology, characters and politics... if all goes well this thread will work out to be something worth being invovled in.

Also attending this conference, sitting at the left side of the table away from James (lets call it 7 o'clock with James being 12 o'clock) is Kayla Harmone, Iuthia's esteemed ambassidor and close friend to James deGritz.

Kayla herself was a relatively good looking 29 year old woman, who despite her young age gave an impression of experience in her field. She currently wore a white dress which went down to her ankles and didn't show any cleavage, only her neck on which she wore a white choker. Her dark brown hair was long, but plaited down her back so it would not interfere with her actions. Unlike James and many of the other Iuthian's she wasn't as tanned as she had spent a fair bit of time away from Iuthia's warm climate.

She now stood up and introduced herself:

"I am Ambassidor Kayla Harmone of the Iuthian Diplomatic Corps, I am here today to represent Iuthia during this conference as a neutral nation."


OOC: I've just been reminded of seeting arrangements, so I guess I'm going to have to assume that if you are neutral you should try and be at the top or bottom of the table (near James or opposite him) and if you are with TFU you should be on the left, with TFU being 9 o'clock and his enemies being 3 o'clock on the right... any complaints or suggestions in the other thread please...

Midway down the table, directly across from the Federal Union, a chair screeched back from the table. Its occupant drew himself up to his full height, coldly eyeing the Federals and Iuthian speakers. As Skeelzanians go he was of about average height at 7'5" and physically powerful. He wore the uniform of the FS: jet-black jacket and trousers with red trimming, a silver sash signifying his rank as heir.

"As some of you maybe aware, I am Vladimir Skeelzot, Prince-Apparent of Skeelzania. I am here by invitation of the Iuthians, who I wish to thank for hosting this conference. With luck, we opposing the Federal Union can settle our accounts with them here and now, and finally put them in their place.

"To long have the arrogant Federals been strutting around the Alpha Quadrant like a rooster in a hen house. With their incursions into our home, the Gamma Quadrant, they have brought our two nations to the brink of war, a war which would be devestating to their innocent peoples. But now, with the help of the Iuthians, I hope we can avert useless bloodshed and establish a lasting peace."

The Hive avatars enterd the conference room and looked around as one they spoke:
"Where are we to be seated?"

When Matsuo heard that the peace talks were going to begin, he put on his smartest clothes and headed down to the conference table. Taking a packet of mints and getting a small glass of water when there, he sat down several seats down one or two seats down from the Federal Union, and waited for the others to arrive.

The Hive avatars enterd the conference room and looked around as one they spoke:
"Where are we to be seated?"

OOC: Here we go...

I've just been reminded of seeting arrangements, so I guess I'm going to have to assume that if you are neutral you should try and be at the top or bottom of the table (near James or opposite him) and if you are with TFU you should be on the left, with TFU being 9 o'clock and his enemies being 3 o'clock on the right... any complaints or suggestions in the other thread please...

Ambassador Hannity, dressed in a flowing blue lace gown with diamond earrings, enters the conference room. She looks around abit and proceeds to where James is sitting! As she made her way, she acknowledges the rest of the delegates.

"Greetings, I am Ambassador Melissa Hannity from Formal Dances! It is an honor to meet all of you."

With that said, she and her aide, proceeded to a chair and sat down with notebooks open to take notes! Also, she reaches into her diplomatic bag that her aide is carrying and takes out two folders, One with info on the other nations that the State Department gathered and the other one for her plan of action.

"This should be interesting" She whispered to her aide.

"Just keep your mind clear and hopefully we can get them to agree to a peace accord to everyone's liking."

She turns back as she sighs and prepares to take notes

Admiral Server and his Fiance walked into the conference room wearing their best garments with Admiral Server in his dress uniform.

As they entered, they immediately made their way to sit next to the TFU delegation. After a brief nod to TFU Rep, he sat down with Erica behind him and pulls out a folder assigned to him for this conference.

As they wait to begin, he quickly goes over the intel gathered for this mission. He handed it back to Erica as he takes out a padd and waits for this to begin.

Ambassador Strauss hobbled into the confrence room and took a seat in the Anti-Union section. He was an older, greying man, and he honestly believed that the Union was evil. Such was the skill of the CF propaganda promoters.

Before waiting for anyone else to speak, he took initiative and said "My fellow delegates! Last night, my party and I encountered heinous treachery! We discovered a small audio bug hidden in our room. No doubt placed by a Federal Spy. Alas, my overzealous guards destroyed the device before I could analyze it, but it is probably of Federal Origin. After all, who would have a better reason to spy upon us?"


OOC Edit: This is after everyone arrives, but before anyone starts talking. I'm posting it now because I might not have too much time coming up, and it'd be best to get it out of the way now.

"My fellow delegates! Last night, my party and I encountered heinous treachery! We discovered a small audio bug hidden in our room. No doubt placed by a Federal Spy. Alas, my overzealous guards destroyed the device before I could analyze it, but it is probably of Federal Origin. After all, who would have a better reason to spy upon us?" Ambassador Strauss declared, clearly showing little respect for the proper channels.

James looked concerned, though he carefully made a point of hiding his anoyance at the outburst.

"And I take it that you have evidence of this accusation? If these things are true I will have to have our security look over the claims and evidence as well as our own servailance footage and security reports. As far as we are aware the president hasn't moved from his sector since he came here and all other Federal Union staff are on their own Capitol Ship."

Rrowl C'mef stepped into the conference room pausing just infront of the door, his eyes scanned each inhabitant instinctly taking in the scents of them from a distance and commited them to memory. Rrowl C'mef was a huge comparative to most humans he was a towering 8'5 feet and in peak physical condition as it was demanded in Kzinti society. if it was not for the long hairless tail, the redmulti-pointed ears, and his clawed hands. He was be the spitting imagine of earth Tiger.

http://img7.exs.cx/img7/3200/Kziniti1.jpg


He continued into to the conference table Issabel Vagren his Aide came into view, her brown hair was done up into a bun except for the 2 low strands of purple hair which dangled down freely. Issabel had tanned skin and wore a black business suit although she looked slightly out of place wearing it.

The two contnued to the table and sat down in the "Neutral Section". Rrowl C'mef stood up a second later and spoke in a rough voice

" I am Rrowl C'mef leader of the planet Wunderland, I doubt many of you know of me or of my species and this is my loyal Aide Issabe Vagren"

issabel nodded politely remaining seated as she looked around at the other delegates attending the conference.

""Although we have no perticular ties with TFU both my and my Aide see get oppertunity for growth or everyones knowledge of other lands and species. As most of you woudl agree a great leader is that fo one who can both use the pen and the sword"

He sat down slowly resting his hads on the felt, he ahd rather liked the feel of it and would have to see about attaining some.

although in the back of his mind he was worried that his guards were making a mess of his quarters while he was at the conference, which would could hurt further relations with these people which in return would hurt the guards ... serverely.

Ambassador Strauss hobbled into the confrence room and took a seat in the Anti-Union section. He was an older, greying man, and he honestly believed that the Union was evil. Such was the skill of the CF propaganda promoters.

Before waiting for anyone else to speak, he took initiative and said "My fellow delegates! Last night, my party and I encountered heinous treachery! We discovered a small audio bug hidden in our room. No doubt placed by a Federal Spy. Alas, my overzealous guards destroyed the device before I could analyze it, but it is probably of Federal Origin. After all, who would have a better reason to spy upon us?"


OOC Edit: This is after everyone arrives, but before anyone starts talking. I'm posting it now because I might not have too much time coming up, and it'd be best to get it out of the way now.

Ambassador Hannity sat upright!

"I have to say that is one hell of an accusation. How do you know it was a Federal Spy? How do we know you didn't plant it there yourself so you could make this type of accusation. I for one don't buy that The Fedral Union would try to sabatoge these talks with such a childish trick."

She glared across the table at Central Facehuggeria and waits for a response.

The Dimmimaran delegate sat at 3 o clock, being a fervent hater of TFU...

"I have to echo the esteemed Ambassador from Formal Dances." He started. "Before you interject, I am Admiral Server from Corneliu, the next inline to the presidency. This is a very serious accusation you have made. I've been looking at the security here as well as my security guards. Here, it is very very tight and I applaud Iuthia on the security here. Now outside of the device, how do you know it was TFU, an ally of Corneliu, that did this?"

"Although we are haters of TFU and would like nothing more than to see his nation annihalated; It seems that you are deliberatly trying to undermine TFU.

"I have to echo the esteemed Ambassador from Formal Dances." He started. "Before you interject, I am Admiral Server from Corneliu, the next inline to the presidency. This is a very serious accusation you have made. I've been looking at the security here as well as my security guards. Here, it is very very tight and I applaud Iuthia on the security here. Now outside of the device, how do you know it was TFU, an ally of Corneliu, that did this?"


Strauss smilied and said "Outside of the device, which was destroyed, we have no evidence that it was TFU. I was making a logical conclusion. Who else would have the nerve, as well as the motive, to place a listening device in my room? Although I suppose I spoke too hastily. Any one of you pro-unioners could have placed it. As for proof, we still have pieces of the device. Although it is impossible to divine the design of the device before my bodyguard unwisely destroyed it, it is made of materials widely known to be of Federal Origin, such as Duranium, amongst others."

Strauss then turned to the Formal Dances delegate and said, "How do we know YOU didn't place this bug in my room? Anyone here could have, even me. Although I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even turn the damned thing on! Be that as it may, my nation doesn't possess the ability to synthesize Duranium. We don't know the necessary data to create it. So unless we destroyed a federal ship, and began cutting off bits of hull, I don't think it was placed there by us. The fact is that we have yet to have hostile contact with TFU. It is just that my government opposes governments...governments like theirs."

OOC: FYI, Strauss doesn't know who placed the bug. It was one of the bodyguards eariler. He's acting under orders to incriminate and deface the Pro-TFU side.

Strauss smilied and said "Outside of the device, which was destroyed, we have no evidence that it was TFU. I was making a logical conclusion. Who else would have the nerve, as well as the motive, to place a listening device in my room? Although I suppose I spoke too hastily. Any one of you pro-unioners could have placed it. As for proof, we still have pieces of the device. Although it is impossible to divine the design of the device before my bodyguard unwisely destroyed it, it is made of materials widely known to be of Federal Origin, such as Duranium, amongst others."

"Just because it was made out of materials widely known to be of Fedral Origins, doesn't mean that they did it! I firmly believe that they want peace as much as anyone here. As for who have the nerve? Someone who wants to sabatoge these talks. Here's a tip for ya Ambassador, never leap to a logical conclusion. WARS have started that way with tens of thousands of casualties. We don't want a war, that is why we are here. To prevent one between TFU and her enemies. Peace is our primary objective here! I doubt it very much that TFU would do such a thing."

James sat bolt upright, this had gone far enough.

"Now, now people, this is not a matter for discussion within these talks at this time. Ambassidor Strauss I will have to ask that your security advisors hand over what little evidence that remains so we may investigate the matters ourselves... unless you suspect Iuthia is to blame for this incidence.

"In any case, your security advisors can watch our analysis of the remain of the device. Others are welcome to have observers join our investigators, though no one is to actually get involved, only to observe that the investigation is fare.

"I would like to point out at this time however that due to fact that all representatives arrived only yesterday and that our security has to escort any party leaving their section, I doubt that anyone from an opposing faction could have planted the device without leaving evidence on servailance footage or log details.

We will rise this issue again once the investigation is complete."

James then went on to sit back in his chair. Notably taking a moment to compose himself.

"Now, back to the introductions, Ambassador Strauss, would you care to enlighten us about your position in the National Socialist Utopia of Central Facehuggeria?"

"Just because it was made out of materials widely known to be of Fedral Origins, doesn't mean that they did it! I firmly believe that they want peace as much as anyone here. As for who have the nerve? Someone who wants to sabatoge these talks. Here's a tip for ya Ambassador, never leap to a logical conclusion. WARS have started that way with tens of thousands of casualties. We don't want a war, that is why we are here. To prevent one between TFU and her enemies. Peace is our primary objective here! I doubt it very much that TFU would do such a thing."

Remaining calm, Strauss began to reply to the Corneilu delegate "If it was made of materials of Federal origin, where did those materials come from? TFU. Do they commonly export their listening devices to other nations? Hell, given Federal transporter technology, I wouldn't be surprised if they just beamed it into my room, like in one of those B-grade space movies. But I digress. I don't know who planted it in my room, but the only logical reason is that it was one of you, sitting directly opposite to me."

Strauss paused for a moment before continuing, "As for why they would want a war, I don't know. I do know that they are imperialist. See the recent incident in the 'Ade-Lai' islands. Please forgive my poor pronuciation, but such foreign words do not come easily to myself or my people. What's more, they've been proven to be imperialist with their attacks on Gamma and Delta quadrant races. Such as our esteemed ally Skeelzania, and Species One."

Edit: "Although we are haters of TFU and would like nothing more than to see his nation annihalated; It seems that you are deliberatly trying to undermine TFU.

Strauss turned to the Dimminar delegate and said "We aren't trying to undermine TFU. We are merely trying to present the facts as we see them."

"Just a quick note Ambassidor Strauss, Iuthian technology does not permit matter transmittion into this station, nor in many of the populated area in Iuthia itself. Anyone or thing trying to do such will find that their matter is spread very thinly over a large area... it's probably not a pretty site.

"Some time ago, due to a incident with another nation Iuthia had to delevop technology to stop such incursions, the reasearch has been quiet handy and both our nations, the interlopers and ourselves has benefited from the incident. So such a idea is most assurably impossible." James stated.

"Now, if you could get your security advisors to hand allow us to start the investigation we can move on from this and continue with the introduction before we move onto grievances between the two factions present."

Remaining calm, Strauss began to reply to the Corneilu delegate "If it was made of materials of Federal origin, where did those materials come from? TFU. Do they commonly export their listening devices to other nations? Hell, given Federal transporter technology, I wouldn't be surprised if they just beamed it into my room, like in one of those B-grade space movies. But I digress. I don't know who planted it in my room, but the only logical reason is that it was one of you, sitting directly opposite to me."

Strauss paused for a moment before continuing, "As for why they would want a war, I don't know. I do know that they are imperialist. See the recent incident in the 'Ade-Lai' islands. Please forgive my poor pronuciation, but such foreign words do not come easily to myself or my people. What's more, they've been proven to be imperialist with their attacks on Gamma and Delta quadrant races. Such as our esteemed ally Skeelzania, and Species One."

"You have a way to twist words. As for where it came from, you could have stolen the material. Not like this material isn't rare. As for beaming, even my nation has this technology, purchased from TFU btw. I still wouldn't accuse anyone on THIS side of the table. I advise you to do what Iuthia said. Now I don't think anyone wants a war and I never said they wanted one. You claim you are neutral here but yet your sitting on the side of the table that is anti-TFU! Now why are you doing that if you never had a hostile confrontation with them? As for their Imperialistic ways, it has come to our attention that on at least one occassion, races there approached with Gunports open. WHat do you think they are going to do? Naturally they'll defend themselves. Anyone that approaches our ships with gunports open is immediately blown into space dust. TFU basically has the same approach though they attack just long enough to disengage and leave the area. That is what they have done in every confrontation. They haven't taken over occupied space! They found uninhabited planets and want to colonize them PEACEFULLY!"

OOC: Sorry. Didn't notice your post before mine. :) Anyway,

IC: Strauss turned to the Iuthian delegate present and said, in a scratchy voice "Of course. I suppose I was thinking aloud with that transporter trick. I will hand over the remains of the device, although not too much actually remains. When you crush something in a suit of CF powered armor, it's gone for good."

After taking a swig of water, he then resumed speaking; "Are you sure that you accounted for everyone at the confrence? My guards and I were in our quarters, that's all I know. Is it possible that one of your men may be an unwitting double agent? TFU is known to have a highly active psionics division..."

After another quick drink, Strauss added "As for my position, I am a simple diplomat and negotiator, relatively high up on the diplomatic corps food chain. And before I left, I was given volumes of intelligence reports on TFU. It makes for intresting reading... But I digress again."

OOC: Sorry. Didn't notice your post before mine. :) Anyway,

IC: Strauss turned to the Iuthian delegate present and said, in a scratchy voice "Of course. I suppose I was thinking aloud with that transporter trick. I will hand over the remains of the device, although not too much actually remains. When you crush something in a suit of CF powered armor, it's gone for good."

After taking a swig of water, he then resumed speaking; "Are you sure that you accounted for everyone at the confrence? My guards and I were in our quarters, that's all I know. Is it possible that one of your men may be an unwitting double agent? TFU is known to have a highly active psionics division..."

After another quick drink, Strauss added "As for my position, I am a simple diplomat and negotiator, relatively high up on the diplomatic corps food chain. And before I left, I was given volumes of intelligence reports on TFU. It makes for intresting reading... But I digress again."

"We also have a heavy psionics division between Jedi and telepaths. I myself am a Jedi as is my father. I'm next in line to lead Corneliu. We too have much info on TFU. This folder (holding it up) contains a summary of everything they have done. They never tried to conquer worlds! They have tried to help the galaxy and all they do is get hammered from the likes of you! Before you jump to conclusion based on what intel you received, you need to know them personally. I have come to respect TFU! Yea we didn't get involved in some of their wars but we are always ready to assist them in there time of need. That time is now. We need to talk peace and leave baseless accusations at the door. IF there is another baseless accusation, I'll make sure that the perpetrator is exposed. Now lets get back to talking peace."

OOC: You don't have to always quote the post if it's directly above you, I'm sure we can link wh you are talking without those benefits. But meh, I guess I'm just a perfectionist.

IC:

"I sincerly doubt that any sleeper agent could continue to stay loyal during the long process and indoctrination that a Black Viper Specialist undergoes, whats more they would need to use more then one because each security offical will have accountability by going in at least pairs. Not to mention that other nations have noted how Iuthians are naturally resistant to mind tricks, combined with training against such... other nations can back this up.*

"Now, if we can drop this topic and leave it to the investigation I would be most pleased."


* This much is fact, I've RPed this since year ago when I used to RP with Rave Shentavo...

"You have a way to twist words. As for where it came from, you could have stolen the material. Not like this material isn't rare. As for beaming, even my nation has this technology, purchased from TFU btw. I still wouldn't accuse anyone on THIS side of the table. I advise you to do what Iuthia said. Now I don't think anyone wants a war and I never said they wanted one. You claim you are neutral here but yet your sitting on the side of the table that is anti-TFU! Now why are you doing that if you never had a hostile confrontation with them? As for their Imperialistic ways, it has come to our attention that on at least one occassion, races there approached with Gunports open. WHat do you think they are going to do? Naturally they'll defend themselves. Anyone that approaches our ships with gunports open is immediately blown into space dust. TFU basically has the same approach though they attack just long enough to disengage and leave the area. That is what they have done in every confrontation. They haven't taken over occupied space! They found uninhabited planets and want to colonize them PEACEFULLY!"

Strauss turned to the Corneilu delegate and shot him a glare that would have killed a rottweiler. "I do not twist words. I state facts. All I know is that the device was made of Federal Materials. I also know that my government has no agents in TFU anymore. They were all recalled in the gamma quadrant incident, and no more have been deployed. We have the proverbial bigger fish to fry."

Once again Strauss paused for a moment before speaking again, in a melodius tone. "We did not steal this material, and we did not make this material. Tell you the truth, it's beneath us. Duranium is such a poor metal that we just skipped over it."

Finally, Strauss replied to the brunt of the Corneilu attack; "If one of our ships was in the Federal position at the start of the gamma quadrant incident, they would have held fire. Our shields and thick armor would have asorbed anything the unknown ships could have thrown at it, and we would have opened communications. When they told us that the area was claimed, we would have departed. What's more, throughout its history, TFU has exercised imperialism on Earth, as well as in the stars. I am of course refering to the Adalei (sic) islands. but also the dozens of other nations TFU has invaded. Federal Imperialism isn't unique to the delta and gamma quadrants.

And they tried to colonize uninhabited planets in another nation's territory. Would you like it if we began colonizing uninhabited systems in your territory? No, I think not. TFU tried to snatch away another nation's soverign territory. You can certainly understand why the Skeelzanians evicted the Federal Colonists."

OOC: My my species join, or is it to late?

We do know the history of TFU but from our understanding, they have tried to make those nations a better place. They NEVER went out to CONQUER THEM or OCCUPY THEM! As for colonizing in another nation, how were they supposed to know when it was uninhabited and nothing in sight to show who claimed them thus they were fair game. It was the other nation's fault for provoking a fight. I fully back TFU now enough with the accusation game and back to the peace talks.

OOC: I'm off for now, I'll respond later!

OOC: Probably not, Sskiss. The conference has started though I'm sure you may be able to get a late arrival depending on who you are and your intentions. Note that this thread is closed so if you wish to apply for a place here then do so by sending a communication to this thread:

Sign up thread + OOC Issues (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338098) (Click this link for the thread)

IC:

James smiled on the inside, this conference had already fallen into pedantic argument over who wronged who and it hadn't taken any time at all.

"Come now, lets save our grievances at least until the President of the Fedral Union themselves as had a chance to speak."

OOC: I understand Noitan Teppup, I'm sure CF can handle my side rather nicely anyway.

Mean wile :
Rob was finishing getting ready in his quarters after a few moments he walked out of his quarters and headed towards the conference room arriving a few moments later he then walked over looking some what nervous confused yet confident and sat down at his designated chair he stared around the room and looked at the other delegates giving them a small acknowledging nod he sat down and smiled a bit .

Strauss then turned to the Formal Dances delegate and said, "How do we know YOU didn't place this bug in my room? Anyone here could have, even me. Although I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even turn the damned thing on! Be that as it may, my nation doesn't possess the ability to synthesize Duranium. We don't know the necessary data to create it. So unless we destroyed a federal ship, and began cutting off bits of hull, I don't think it was placed there by us. The fact is that we have yet to have hostile contact with TFU. It is just that my government opposes governments...governments like theirs."

"Are you making an accusation that my nation, that has never heard of you, planted that? You don't even know my government! We are a totally neutral nation here. No need to accuse my nation for the bug. We wouldn't know how to go about planting one in all of this security. DON'T YOU EVER ACCUSE MY NATION OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER AGAIN! We may not have a space program but we have allies that do. One of them is sitting at this table right now. We have no contact with TFU! We just want to see peace established. That is why we are here Ambassador (said with scorn)! We are here to come to a peace accord that will benefit everyone! YOU can be apart of that peace accord or if you want to soe decet here, then leave now and let the rest of us who want to strive for peace come to a proper accord." She glared at CF! "Now, ambassador! The ball is in your court. DO you still want to hurl accusations about TFU and my nation or do you want to strive for peace? The choice is yours Ambassador."

James simply sat and left her to her short rant before sitting forward with his fingers bridged.

"I beleive it wasn't an accusation as such, simply more of a suggestion. In anycase it was dismissed as was the topic. Our investigation is underway and I would like to leave this topic alone until the results of that investigation are well known." James stated in a monotone voice, looking towards Ambassador Hannity.

"Now Ambassador, I'm sure this misunderstanding will be resolved, for the time being however I would rather we all remain calm and stick to the issue at hand, I understand that you are offended but this is hardly the time to lose you cool. Such reactions are counter productive, I don't question your wish to help in these affairs so let us continue."

Ambassador Hannity nodded her head.

"I apologize sir for my outburst! Your right, it is counter-productive. I will drop the issue."

She sat back down in her chair and Greg leaned in and whispered into her ear, "Nice job of defense! Don't let your emotions take precedence here!"

"Your right and I did apologize. Hopefully we can end this peacefully!"

"We should be able too. Good job on the apology! Very diplomatic." He smiled at her and sat back in his chair as Melissa puts some notes into her notebook on the encounter.

Strauss remained calm. At home, his wife and teenage daughter always yelled at him, so he had long ago learned to block it out.

"The Iuthian delegate is correct. That was not an accusation, that was a suggestion. I was saying that it could have been anyone here who planted it. Even me. Even you. But the Iuthians are correct, we should drop this until the investigation is complete."

He paused for a moment before saying "We have drafted a preliminary treaty for peace.

1. TFU will cease using temporal technology, and will destroy all examples of said technology in their possession. Inspectors will be allowed in to ensure this is carried out.

1.5 TFU will cease research and and destroy all examples of 'doomsday' weapons such as singularity weapons and gigaton scale anti-matter warheads (gigaton as in 1,000 tons of anti-matter, not as in the equivelent of 1,000 tons of TNT in anti-matter form.) Inspectors will also ensure this is carried out. TFU will allow inspectors unlimited freedom in examining this situation.

Ammendum 1.5: Doomsday weapons are rated as such at the discresion of the inspectors. The inspectors will be made up of a multi-national force from each of the nations assembled here, even the pro-TFU side.

This is due to the fact that TFU uses temporal technology irresponsibly, and causes damage to the STC according to Indra prime, the foremost temporal research nation in existance. Black hole and other doomsday weapons are prevented due to a similar reason.

2. TFU will swear to never attack CF or the other anti-TFU nations assembled here unless attacked first

A safeguard from imperialism and feelings of revenge obviously.

3. TFU will cease imperialist actions against soverign nations and colony worlds and agrees not to involve themselves in the affairs of other nations.

Imperialism seems to follow TFU where ever their troops go. Hence, they will avoid getting involved in the affairs of others, affairs that don't concern TFU at all.

4. CF and the other anti-TFU nations assembled agree not to attack TFU or its allies unless attacked first or the terms of this treaty are violated.

A garentee from our side that we will not attack TFU unless he breakes the outlines set foward by this treaty, or attacks us or our allies directly."

After that mouthful, Strauss sat back down and took a drink of water. He waited for a reaction to the treaty.

Dimmimar will uphold this treaty, and gives it it's full support...

"We don't support this treaty. This violates their rights to explore their region of space. They claim they hold all of it but I don't buy it!

TFU has never had imperial agression. I never heard of them using temporal technology irresponsibly. This is an exaggerated claim by their enemies. This treaty cannot be approved and we shall not honor it even if it is because we consider it unlawful!

Any treaty needs to be benefical to all sides. This is only benefital to one side over the other. That is another reason why we do not support this treaty. What about trade and immigration! The planets they colonized weren't claimed by anyone. You just claimed them AFTER they colonized them. If you truely claimed the planets they landed on, then you would have had defenses there and you didn't! We fully support TFU's claim to these planets.

If you want to conduct these proceedings honorably CF, then why did you present such a thing?"

Admiral Server took a deep breath and a drink of water as he looked over the other side of the table.

"You all think that the TFU is a bad nation. Let me tell you something. In all of our contacts, they have shown themselves to be an honorable people. They helped us in our Civil War, the have helped other people that weren't their own kind! How is that being bad? Its a mark of a true leader that is ready to help people who AREN'T the same species or of different cultures. I also think you don't like them because they are a DEMOCRACY! Well news flash, we are a dictatorship but yet have a full alliance with TFU. This treaty you presented will hurt them economically as well as militarily. That won't be acceptable. Come up with a better treaty that helps all sides here and maybe we'll agree to it. We are in the process of coming up with just such a treaty. It isn't ready yet but when it is, we shall present it. Thank You."

Admiral Server sat down calmly and takes another drink of his water as his fiance leans in. "Nice one hun." she said then sits back in her chair.

Strauss remained calm. At home, his wife and teenage daughter always yelled at him, so he had long ago learned to block it out.

"The Iuthian delegate is correct. That was not an accusation, that was a suggestion. I was saying that it could have been anyone here who planted it. Even me. Even you. But the Iuthians are correct, we should drop this until the investigation is complete."

He paused for a moment before saying "We have drafted a preliminary treaty for peace.

1. TFU will cease using temporal technology, and will destroy all examples of said technology in their possession. Inspectors will be allowed in to ensure this is carried out.

1.5 TFU will cease research and and destroy all examples of 'doomsday' weapons such as singularity weapons and gigaton scale anti-matter warheads (gigaton as in 1,000 tons of anti-matter, not as in the equivelent of 1,000 tons of TNT in anti-matter form.) Inspectors will also ensure this is carried out. TFU will allow inspectors unlimited freedom in examining this situation.

Ammendum 1.5: Doomsday weapons are rated as such at the discresion of the inspectors. The inspectors will be made up of a multi-national force from each of the nations assembled here, even the pro-TFU side.

This is due to the fact that TFU uses temporal technology irresponsibly, and causes damage to the STC according to Indra prime, the foremost temporal research nation in existance. Black hole and other doomsday weapons are prevented due to a similar reason.

2. TFU will swear to never attack CF or the other anti-TFU nations assembled here unless attacked first

A safeguard from imperialism and feelings of revenge obviously.

3. TFU will cease imperialist actions against soverign nations and colony worlds and agrees not to involve themselves in the affairs of other nations.

Imperialism seems to follow TFU where ever their troops go. Hence, they will avoid getting involved in the affairs of others, affairs that don't concern TFU at all.

4. CF and the other anti-TFU nations assembled agree not to attack TFU or its allies unless attacked first or the terms of this treaty are violated.

A garentee from our side that we will not attack TFU unless he breakes the outlines set foward by this treaty, or attacks us or our allies directly."

After that mouthful, Strauss sat back down and took a drink of water. He waited for a reaction to the treaty.

Robert sat there calmly and said ... "we will not accept sutch an agreement you are in no postion to make such demands please revise all of them " he siged and grined sliglty then said "thank you Admiral server for your suppourt. and a wonderfull speech you gave also " robert smiled a bit

The Dimmimaran delegate stood up.

"Damnit! TFU is a nation of do-gooder idiots that can't help poking ther noses in other peoples business."

"You reap what you sow...."

The Dimmimaran delegate stood up.

"Damnit! TFU is a nation of do-gooder idiots that can't help poking ther noses in other peoples business."

"You reap what you sow...."

Robert raised an eyebrow and said " i dont see what mudflinging acussations and insults will do to move this confrance along .. now i suggest you cease with all insults and outragous demands so we can get down to bussines "

The Dimmimaran delegate stood up.

"Damnit! TFU is a nation of do-gooder idiots that can't help poking ther noses in other peoples business."

"You reap what you sow...."

"Look who's talking! This so called treaty is a sham. If he signed it, you would provoke him into attacking you first! Thne you would say that he violated the said peace agreement. Come on, its not that hard to read. Nice disguise though but a very bad one." He replied.

Robert raised an eyebrow and said " i dont see what mudflinging acussations and insults will do to move this confrance along .. now i suggest you cease with all insults and outragous demands so we can get down to bussines "

"I have to agree with TFU! Mudflinging isn't going to solve any issues here. We are here to solve this peacefully, not start new conflicts. Lets all put our heads together and come out to a successful conclusion!" Admiral Server said.

IC:

As for their Imperialistic ways, it has come to our attention that on at least one occassion, races there approached with Gunports open. WHat do you think they are going to do? Naturally they'll defend themselves. Anyone that approaches our ships with gunports open is immediately blown into space dust. TFU basically has the same approach though they attack just long enough to disengage and leave the area. That is what they have done in every confrontation. They haven't taken over occupied space! They found uninhabited planets and want to colonize them PEACEFULLY!"


Vladimir had been silent before, but now he had an opening. "Let me present you with an analogy, Admiral. Say you have a peice of land, that through blood, sweat, and toil you have opened up to your family. Now, your family isn't very large yet, so you cannot have a person on ever square foot. Nevertheless, the whole territory is yours by right.

"Now, lets say your large and obnoxious neighbor, having failed to use his land properly, takes it upon himself that he is more entitled to your land than you are. He prompty hops across the border, sets up some shanties, and calls some of his friends and family over to join him. Now, what would you do in this situation Admiral?

"This was the situation Skeelzania was faced with, subsituting systems and parsecs for acres. Our people have spent nearly 200 years clearing the Gamma Quadrant of lesser species, allowing our kind to flourish. TFU ignored all of this and barged across the border with a rather sizable fleet, one that included combat vessels. It was only through the brave actions of a single man-of-war that prevented them from deeply penetrating the Quadrant, giving our forces time to mobolize.

"The Federal Colonists were nothing more than inept squatters, snapping up lands conqoured by better peoples. It was well within my Father's rights to order the dozen or so worlds they had stolen purged of their presence, yet he showed restraint. Thanks in part to the Federal Union bungling a diplomatic incident with CorpSac, their drive into our Quadrant ceased and the colonists were spared. However, they still occupy those worlds; worlds we want back.

"I have read Central Facehuggeria's peace treaty, and find no objections. However, I will not agree to it until all Federal holdings in the Gamma Quadrant are returned to Skeelzanian Authority. This also applies to the colonists.

"You could have approached them in a PEACEFUL MANNER! Instead you approached with warships. Not as a diplomatic gesture but as a sign of aggression. My nation fully backs what the TFU did. Also remember this, if you approached them diplomatically with star charts, they would've left you alone! Since it was Unclaimed territory with no signs of ever having anyone set foot on the planets soil, by intersteller law, they have full right to claim such planets as their own. We recognize the claims they have made in the Gamma Quadrant. If you want to talk peace then lets talk peace and not about past aggressions."

He took a sip of water as he continued.

"You people that are against TFU had wrongs done by them! You brought them on yourself when you went against them. They legally claimed the planets that weren't claimed and/or colonized. They claimed uninhabited planets. You weren't using them. You never claimed them on your star charts. You only claimed them AFTER he showed up and colonized them then opposed them with warships. Haven't you guess ever hear of the word negiotate? This treaty that you Anti-TFU nations want him to sign hurts them and helps you. That isn't how negiotations are done. That is only done if one side surrenders to the other. In negiotations such as this, a treaty here WILL benefit both sides of this table. That is why there are neutral nations here. To make sure that all sides here can benefit from a treaty."

IC:


Vladimir had been silent before, but now he had an opening. "Let me present you with an analogy, Admiral. Say you have a peice of land, that through blood, sweat, and toil you have opened up to your family. Now, your family isn't very large yet, so you cannot have a person on ever square foot. Nevertheless, the whole territory is yours by right.

"Now, lets say your large and obnoxious neighbor, having failed to use his land properly, takes it upon himself that he is more entitled to your land than you are. He prompty hops across the border, sets up some shanties, and calls some of his friends and family over to join him. Now, what would you do in this situation Admiral?

"This was the situation Skeelzania was faced with, subsituting systems and parsecs for acres. Our people have spent nearly 200 years clearing the Gamma Quadrant of lesser species, allowing our kind to flourish. TFU ignored all of this and barged across the border with a rather sizable fleet, one that included combat vessels. It was only through the brave actions of a single man-of-war that prevented them from deeply penetrating the Quadrant, giving our forces time to mobolize.

"The Federal Colonists were nothing more than inept squatters, snapping up lands conqoured by better peoples. It was well within my Father's rights to order the dozen or so worlds they had stolen purged of their presence, yet he showed restraint. Thanks in part to the Federal Union bungling a diplomatic incident with CorpSac, their drive into our Quadrant ceased and the colonists were spared. However, they still occupy those worlds; worlds we want back.

"I have read Central Facehuggeria's peace treaty, and find no objections. However, I will not agree to it until all Federal holdings in the Gamma Quadrant are returned to Skeelzanian Authority. This also applies to the colonists.
Rob calmly yet loudly said "Ok there’s your problem first of all you think your kind is the alpha omega of the universe and when some one challenges that you get all offended and try to bully them out and you have to wake up .. Your are not the alpha omega nor are you the most powerful .. You have to open your eyes conquering innocent peoples planets and forcing them out because you think your superior is going to get you in a whole lot of trouble.. now I didn’t know about your "claims" and I have one word of suggestion ... do not try to remove my remaining colonies or colonist via force ... you would not be pleased with the resulting fleet at your door step .. Now I suggest we get passed my “alleged crimes “

"I'm a neutral nation and I don't find this proposal acceptable. How do you justify your aggression when all the TFU did was just colonize a few uninhabited and unclaimed planets and you attacked them for it? You can't justify it."

"I'm a neutral nation and I don't find this proposal acceptable. How do you justify your aggression when all the TFU did was just colonize a few uninhabited and unclaimed planets and you attacked them for it? You can't justify it."

OOC: This is going to take quite a bit of time to crunch through all of em, but please bear with me. I'll be replying in the opposite order from which they were presented.

IC: Strauss turned to the Formal Dances delegate and said: "You are a neutral observer. We do not need you to find this proposal acceptable. What's more, we justify our aggression by the simple fact that TFU colonized worlds that were claimed by another nation. That is tantamount to stealing. A suitable analogy would be if I moved into your back yard and set up a small shack without asking permission. Now perhaps the Skeelzanians overreacted, and perhaps not. But the fact remains that TFU attempted to take away the soverign territory of the Skeelzanians. Territory that many of their people had died for.

Rob calmly yet loudly said "Ok there?s your problem first of all you think your kind is the alpha omega of the universe and when some one challenges that you get all offended and try to bully them out and you have to wake up .. Your are not the alpha omega nor are you the most powerful .. You have to open your eyes conquering innocent peoples planets and forcing them out because you think your superior is going to get you in a whole lot of trouble.. now I didn?t know about your "claims" and I have one word of suggestion ... do not try to remove my remaining colonies or colonist via force ... you would not be pleased with the resulting fleet at your door step .. Now I suggest we get passed my ?alleged crimes?

Strauss turned towards Rob and said "Irrelvent. It doesn't matter one ounce wether the Skeelzanians find themselves superior or not. The fact of the matter is that you STOLE territory from them. Territory that was part of their soverign nation. Territory that was claimed by their people. Territory that they worked hard to win and cultivate. And then you and your colonists go in and try and take property from them. What do you expect? Them to just stand aside and give you their land?"


"You could have approached them in a PEACEFUL MANNER! Instead you approached with warships. Not as a diplomatic gesture but as a sign of aggression. My nation fully backs what the TFU did. Also remember this, if you approached them diplomatically with star charts, they would've left you alone! Since it was Unclaimed territory with no signs of ever having anyone set foot on the planets soil, by intersteller law, they have full right to claim such planets as their own. We recognize the claims they have made in the Gamma Quadrant. If you want to talk peace then lets talk peace and not about past aggressions."

He took a sip of water as he continued.

"You people that are against TFU had wrongs done by them! You brought them on yourself when you went against them. They legally claimed the planets that weren't claimed and/or colonized. They claimed uninhabited planets. You weren't using them. You never claimed them on your star charts. You only claimed them AFTER he showed up and colonized them then opposed them with warships. Haven't you guess ever hear of the word negiotate? This treaty that you Anti-TFU nations want him to sign hurts them and helps you. That isn't how negiotations are done. That is only done if one side surrenders to the other. In negiotations such as this, a treaty here WILL benefit both sides of this table. That is why there are neutral nations here. To make sure that all sides here can benefit from a treaty."

Strauss turned towards the Corneilu delegate once again. "The Gamma quadrant is a dangerous place. If your territory is invaded by an alien race with a fleet of armed warships, would you send an unarmed diplomatic vessel to them? Especially if you had no prior contact with them?"

After pausing a moment to collect his thoughts, Strauss started again: "Prior to the Federal invasion of the gamma quadrant, the Skeelzanians didn't need to mark their territory so to speak. Everyone else knew what was theirs, and to avoid Skeelzanian territory. Only the comming of your extra quadrant 'colonization' force required them to mark their territory.

Also, the treaty DOES benefit all involved. It garentees that TFU will not be annhilated by the ESUS and its allies once the Shivan conflict is over. We only ask for what was ours. Specifically, the Skeelzanians want their land back. We have levied no other demands for reperations, nor any demands that TFU reduce their ludicrously large fleet. We merely ask that TFU cease development of weapons that have the potiential to destroy us all. His superweapons et all."

Robert sat there calmly and said ... "we will not accept sutch an agreement you are in no postion to make such demands please revise all of them " he siged and grined sliglty then said "thank you Admiral server for your suppourt. and a wonderfull speech you gave also " robert smiled a bit

Strauss turned to Robert again and said "We are quite in a position to make such demands. You are hanging off of a cliff. We are offering you an escape rope. A slightly uncomfortable rope perhaps, but it is still a rope. I can personally garentee you that Indra Prime and its numerous allies will not give you such generous terms for peace when they finally get around to attacking you and your nation. It is highly likely that when that time comes, you will have to pay far more than a few paltry gamma quadrant colonies. This confrence is a formality, giving you a precious chance to avert war. Do not let pride and a belief in your inherent superiority defeat your judgement."

"We don't support this treaty. This violates their rights to explore their region of space. They claim they hold all of it but I don't buy it!

TFU has never had imperial agression. I never heard of them using temporal technology irresponsibly. This is an exaggerated claim by their enemies. This treaty cannot be approved and we shall not honor it even if it is because we consider it unlawful!

Any treaty needs to be benefical to all sides. This is only benefital to one side over the other. That is another reason why we do not support this treaty. What about trade and immigration! The planets they colonized weren't claimed by anyone. You just claimed them AFTER they colonized them. If you truely claimed the planets they landed on, then you would have had defenses there and you didn't! We fully support TFU's claim to these planets.

If you want to conduct these proceedings honorably CF, then why did you present such a thing?"

Admiral Server took a deep breath and a drink of water as he looked over the other side of the table.

"You all think that the TFU is a bad nation. Let me tell you something. In all of our contacts, they have shown themselves to be an honorable people. They helped us in our Civil War, the have helped other people that weren't their own kind! How is that being bad? Its a mark of a true leader that is ready to help people who AREN'T the same species or of different cultures. I also think you don't like them because they are a DEMOCRACY! Well news flash, we are a dictatorship but yet have a full alliance with TFU. This treaty you presented will hurt them economically as well as militarily. That won't be acceptable. Come up with a better treaty that helps all sides here and maybe we'll agree to it. We are in the process of coming up with just such a treaty. It isn't ready yet but when it is, we shall present it. Thank You."

Admiral Server sat down calmly and takes another drink of his water as his fiance leans in. "Nice one hun." she said then sits back in her chair.

Strauss turned to Server once more and said "You don't have to buy it. The fact is that their territory is closest to the Alpha quadrant. To get to any theoretical unclaimed systems in the Gamma quadrant, you would have to pass through their territory. With armed warships. An obvious breach of the Skeelzanians' soverignty. Would you accept such an arrangement? A race you don't know sending armed warships through your territory? Now perhaps if the Federal Citizens were the last of their kind, and they just needed a new home, we would be a bit more sympathetic. However, as it stands, the Federal government is still intact. They have its support, and its warships.

What's more, the Skeelzanian territory is spread out. Placing defensive platforms at uninhabited systems would be an immense drain on resources for what? All of the gamma quadrant natives know to avoid Skeelzanian space. They never expected marauders to come from the nearby alpha quadrant. They never had before.

As for your refrence to honorably...I never said I wanted to conduct this honorably. I merely said that I want to avoid a war that would leave the innocent civilians of The Federal Union either enslaved, annexed, or dead. This treaty is probably the last chance we will have for that, before fate intervenes and war begins. It is a last ditch peace effort.

I also never said TFU was 'bad' per se. I merely said they were imperialist. A fact which you have yet to disprove. It doesn't matter if they improve the lot of the people living in the places they invade. What matters is that they are invading another's territory and partitioning chunks of it for their own use, without the host government's permission.

As for the 'helping others who aren't their own kind' bit, I agree. We assist others who are not of our own kind. The Sskiss, Metallinauts, Germande Zuistande (sic?), amongst others. Does that make it right to take territory away from a nation? No.

This treaty will only harm them militarily if they've been building superweapons. There is NO LIMIT on conventional weapons, ships, or anything else of that matter. Only weapons with a huge ability to cause collateral damage, such as point singularity weapons, temporal tech in general, and extremely large anti-matter weapons. You may have noticed how we didn't demand the Federals disband that absurdly fleet of theirs, despite the fact that it is so large that's it only legitimate purpose could be aggressive actions.

The treaty WOULD NOT harm them economically, unless they get their money from selling highly dangerous weapons of mass destruction to prospective purchasers. Or if they get their money from the coffers of the colonies or nations they invade as "reperations" or "War Tax" amongst other names for the same action."

After that mouthful, Strauss' throat began hurting really bad. A swig of water cleared that right up though.

Rob calmly replied "Listen we will do as we please its nether your nations position nor inrdias to dictate what we do ... we have done no wrong to you and if he attack I’m sure numerous allies i have will come in my defense.. and my suggestion to you is that you stop making demands ... they wont work.. we will not cease development of our weaponry we will only do so when there’s no apparent need for it now or in the vary long term ahead other wise we are going to keep developing our weaponry . i also have 1 word you have to sit down keep quite and listen to our side instead of continuing badger a subject that has been looked over and over and that’s happened over 300 years ago ... and those colony’s are rightfully ours you should have said that you CLAMINED Them IN THE FIRST Place and we would have worked out a deal...
"And what hudge anti matter bombs? i dont recall us haveing any " rob sighed and shook his head "wisperd its a ashmed .." (icly you dont know i have them )

"Don't you ever talk to someone in that tone of voice. They have just as much say as to what happens here as you do! I do have to agree to this and I will never agree to this sort of treaty. As stated before, unless it was claimed and marked on a star chart, its claimable. I have seen star charts of the region and none of the systems "claimed" by the said nation where claimed.

As for this treaty not hurting them economically, it most certainly will hurt them economically, not because they sell it because they don't sell their technology to anyone. That is a distinct fact! There was no colonists on the planets they colonized but if they have to pull them back, that's going to cost them more.

As for hurting them militarily, that is a DUH! They never used temporal weapons inappropriately. You probably said such because you were on the receiving end of it.

As for me, if an alien race appeared on our borders, which are clearly marked and on public record, we would try to talk to them before resorting to violence. We wouldn't approach with open gunports and weapons hot. That is a clear sign of a threat. Our forces handle first contact situations with professionalism. They try to communicate and if they can't communicate verbally, they try other methods of communications. Only if they show hostile intent, like firing on our ships or having gunports open, do our ships take the drastic steps of firing on the said alien vessels. Most of the time though, we establish peaceful terms with these races. The ones that do have hostile intent, don't survive long enough to run back home!" Admiral server finished! He sits down and draws up notes and hands one to an aide for immediate transmission back home!

Ambassador Hannity shot up right just as Admiral Server finished talking. After a quick breath, she launched into her reply.

"Ambassador, I don't like your tone of voice. You obviously have no clue on how to negiotiate. We are here to ensure that all sides are treated fairly. This treaty isn't fair to the TFU! If they have to disarm then you have to disarm. You included us into your plan on disarming but now you said that we have no say? That is so rich. You remind me of one of President Rice's competitors. He didn't get elected! We have just as much right to be here as Admiral Server said. Now I say we all start from the top. We go point by point and reach a COMPROMISE that benefits both parties."

She quickly glanced at her aide who non-chalantly nodded for her to continue. After taking a quick breath and a sip of water, she continued.

"Our duty here to resolve this as peacefully as possible. We shouldn't resort to threats or drastic measures. Our duty here is to come up TOGETHER a benefical peace accord. That is our mandate here. Now let us get back to conducting peace WITHOUT bringing up past aggression!"

The entire time the arguement had been going on most notibly at the high points of it Rrowl C'mef couldn't help but laugh. Of course Kzinti do not laugh vocally they do it through body language, when a Kzinti's tail and ears twitched repeatedly it was a sign of amusement, the faster the more he is amused.

a glance at the visibly worried Issabel was enough to remove all humor from the moment. he glanced over towards the other side of the table namely at the delegate from TFU and gave a small nod giving a sly smile. although facial expressions can have a habit of sending the wrong message at times.

Rob calmly replied "Listen we will do as we please its nether your nations position nor inrdias to dictate what we do ... we have done no wrong to you and if he attack I?m sure numerous allies i have will come in my defense.. and my suggestion to you is that you stop making demands ... they wont work.. we will not cease development of our weaponry we will only do so when there?s no apparent need for it now or in the vary long term ahead other wise we are going to keep developing our weaponry . i also have 1 word you have to sit down keep quite and listen to our side instead of continuing badger a subject that has been looked over and over and that?s happened over 300 years ago ... and those colony?s are rightfully ours you should have said that you CLAMINED Them IN THE FIRST Place and we would have worked out a deal...
"And what hudge anti matter bombs? i dont recall us haveing any " rob sighed and shook his head "wisperd its a ashmed .." (icly you dont know i have them )

Strauss began choking on a bit of water. Out of laughter of course.

"My government tells me that this confrence is a formality, an attempt to keep the Federal Union from dissappearing from the starcharts, annexed into various nations.

What's more, I honestly don't care if you agree to the treaty or not. It's just a 'I have to at least try and prevent war' situation. I admit that i'm going at it half-heartedly. Such is the way the cookie crumbles.

What need could you possibly have of a weapon powerful enough to eradicate a stellar cluster? What use could it have except as an offensive weapon?

Skeelzania did not discover you had grapsed your tentacles around the worlds in question until you had already established yourself.

As for the huge anti-matter bombs, I was making a logical conclusion. Specifically, you have large quantities of anti-matter. You use it in many torpedo weapons, yes? It is that much of an intellectual jump to think 'Hey! They could build a really big bomb with all that anti-matter.'

Lastly, I will listen to your side of the story, once I've finished speaking. (OOC: At end of post.)

"Don't you ever talk to someone in that tone of voice. They have just as much say as to what happens here as you do! I do have to agree to this and I will never agree to this sort of treaty. As stated before, unless it was claimed and marked on a star chart, its claimable. I have seen star charts of the region and none of the systems "claimed" by the said nation where claimed.

As for this treaty not hurting them economically, it most certainly will hurt them economically, not because they sell it because they don't sell their technology to anyone. That is a distinct fact! There was no colonists on the planets they colonized but if they have to pull them back, that's going to cost them more.

As for hurting them militarily, that is a DUH! They never used temporal weapons inappropriately. You probably said such because you were on the receiving end of it.

As for me, if an alien race appeared on our borders, which are clearly marked and on public record, we would try to talk to them before resorting to violence. We wouldn't approach with open gunports and weapons hot. That is a clear sign of a threat. Our forces handle first contact situations with professionalism. They try to communicate and if they can't communicate verbally, they try other methods of communications. Only if they show hostile intent, like firing on our ships or having gunports open, do our ships take the drastic steps of firing on the said alien vessels. Most of the time though, we establish peaceful terms with these races. The ones that do have hostile intent, don't survive long enough to run back home!" Admiral server finished! He sits down and draws up notes and hands one to an aide for immediate transmission back home!

Strauss turned and laughed again. "I must ask you a question. Who's star charts did you see? Did you see charts from a gamma quadrant race? Or were these your own charts, that your astronomers created?

As for the 'hurting them economically,' that is only temporary. What's more, we'll assist in the colonists' transportation if you are so worried in harming them economically.

Never used temporal weapons in error? I have here a chart provided to me by Indra Prime. It notes the fluctuations in the STC that were caused by Federal "Chronoton torpedos" and the possible damage they could cause, should one hit a temporal string or wormhole or any similar temporal barrier. It would result in wholesale destruction and upheaval of everything we know. I only have five copies, so I shall pass four of them around the room. Now think about how often TFU uses temporal weapons, and think about the chances of completely screwing up the STC with said weapons. Temporal weapons are quite simply a last resort. Like nuclear weapons in ancient times. So continued and frequent Federal use of these weapons means one of two things: The Federals know but don't care about the risks, or the Federals are negligent in the extreme. Which is true I wonder? That is why I want Federal temporal weapons banned."

"The Skeelzanians nor TFU had not encountered each other previously to the best of my limited knowldage. So you would be facing a race you knew nothing about, equipped with armed vessels in your territory.

As for the gunports issue, it is possible that their ports were jammed open, or the system was malfunctioning. Not that that was the case, but having gunports open does not necessarily mean the ship has a hostile intent. It could be a sociological show of strength, or that they approach with all their cards on the table so to speak."

Strauss has no aide so he just takes a swig of water and makes a note to wish his wife a happy anniversary.

Ambassador Hannity shot up right just as Admiral Server finished talking. After a quick breath, she launched into her reply.

"Ambassador, I don't like your tone of voice. You obviously have no clue on how to negiotiate. We are here to ensure that all sides are treated fairly. This treaty isn't fair to the TFU! If they have to disarm then you have to disarm. You included us into your plan on disarming but now you said that we have no say? That is so rich. You remind me of one of President Rice's competitors. He didn't get elected! We have just as much right to be here as Admiral Server said. Now I say we all start from the top. We go point by point and reach a COMPROMISE that benefits both parties."

She quickly glanced at her aide who non-chalantly nodded for her to continue. After taking a quick breath and a sip of water, she continued.

"Our duty here to resolve this as peacefully as possible. We shouldn't resort to threats or drastic measures. Our duty here is to come up TOGETHER a benefical peace accord. That is our mandate here. Now let us get back to conducting peace WITHOUT bringing up past aggression!"

Strauss looked at the Formal Dances delegate with pity. "I have plenty of skill at negotiation. However, my government told me that I don't have to negotiate. I just have to hand down an ultimatum. I mean, eventually one side or the other would violate any treaty set down, so what's the point? I actually spent quite a bit of time working on this treaty, even though I didn't have to. By most standards, it would be quite soft. The only real restrictions on TFU are the aforementioned cessation of superweapon research, and giving back colonies that were wrenched from Skeelzania. I did not ask TFU to reduce their conventional military forces. I merely told them to stop researching weapons that could destroy us all. I did not ask for reperations, excepting the Skeelzanian ones, and I tried to avoid infringing on Federal Soverignty with the exception of the WMD restrictions. In retrospect, the blanket limit on temporal tech is somewhat unfair. As such, it will be downgraded to anything which can change the STC. Casual observers should be acceptable I suppose. But temporal weapons have got to go. As is any way to change history. Those are extremely volitile technologies, and they should be destroyed, or kept under lock and key. The problem with the latter is that we do not trust the Union to do that.

Your arguement that we should disarm as well does not apply. We have no cluster destroying superweapons available. We have no temporal weapons available. We have only miniscule singularity weapons which open tiny singularities. No larger than twenty five meters (that's the event horizon mind you.) And even those don't work well. They are more of a cheap gimmick, but I digress.

The CF plan for peace was simple in its entirety.

It called for TFU to cease research on superweapons and to destroy any that existed in their space. This would be monitored by an international coalition of inspectors. Yes, it would include you. And you do get a say in the disarmament program. AFTER it has started. There can be no disarmament until the treaty has been signed, ja? The inspectors would only be there to destroy Federal WMDs. Not place limits on their conventional forces. Of course, if the Federals were NOT building superweapons for use on others, why would they be so concerned about it?

There can be no compromise in the traditional sense. TFU must cease this superweapon research before they kill us all. Other than that, everything else is open to discussion. I am willing to meet you half way on all other issues but the superweapon one. On that, there can be no compromise."

Strauss was rapidly feeling drained. He found it easy to rebuke the various arguements, but the stress and scheming was starting to take a toll upon him.

"That is the problem here! Your SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE! That is the purpose of these talks! Ultimatums are only issued before war is declared. If you are not here to negotiate then why are you here ambassador? These talks are about peace, not war. What that ultimatum is, is nothing more than weakening TFU! Corneliu is right, this is nothing more than a provocative measure. The minute he signs that treaty, I'll place good odds and I don't even gamble, that you would provoke him into making the first move. I'm neither for him or against him. I just want what is fair from both sides. If you can't come to grips with that Ambassador than why are you here? You have delievered your ultimatum and it was rejected by the TFU representative. Since he rejected it, NEGOTIATIONS FOLLOW! That is how diplomacy works. I guess you never tried diplomacy. Now can we all negotiate here on a true peace deal or is this now a waste of time thanks to the incompetence of Central Facehuggeria."

At that point, her aide whispered "Not a wise move. I agree but not a wise one! I suggest you end this speech now before you get into deeper trouble."

"Greg, not in this case. He said it himself that it was an ultimatum and that it can't be negotiated. He has drawn the line in the sand. Its time he realizes that his strongarm tactics won't work here."

She turned back to him! "Ambassador, you have come here in the hopes of finding peace however this so called ultimatum ended that. How do you know he is funding superweapons? This so called Indra Prime maybe an expert on this temporal stuff but how do we know your just not saying it or that they are trying to paint the TFU in a bad light? Anything can be subject to scrutiny and this is one of those things. Now lets negotiate a true peace deal and hope that we can still reach one."

As she looked over at her aide again, he sighed but nodded slightly that she said the right thing. As she sat down, she wrote some notes down and places them in her folder! "This is going to be tougher than we thought" she whispered to Greg!
"Your right" he wispered back, "Nice job in telling him off even if it was diplomatically done." He chuckles to himself. Melissa smiles slightly at that and waits for a rebuke from Central Facehuggeria.

Strauss began choking on a bit of water. Out of laughter of course.

"My government tells me that this confrence is a formality, an attempt to keep the Federal Union from dissappearing from the starcharts, annexed into various nations.

What's more, I honestly don't care if you agree to the treaty or not. It's just a 'I have to at least try and prevent war' situation. I admit that i'm going at it half-heartedly. Such is the way the cookie crumbles.

What need could you possibly have of a weapon powerful enough to eradicate a stellar cluster? What use could it have except as an offensive weapon?

Skeelzania did not discover you had grapsed your tentacles around the worlds in question until you had already established yourself.

As for the huge anti-matter bombs, I was making a logical conclusion. Specifically, you have large quantities of anti-matter. You use it in many torpedo weapons, yes? It is that much of an intellectual jump to think 'Hey! They could build a really big bomb with all that anti-matter.'

Lastly, I will listen to your side of the story, once I've finished speaking. (OOC: At end of post.)



Strauss turned and laughed again. "I must ask you a question. Who's star charts did you see? Did you see charts from a gamma quadrant race? Or were these your own charts, that your astronomers created?

As for the 'hurting them economically,' that is only temporary. What's more, we'll assist in the colonists' transportation if you are so worried in harming them economically.

Never used temporal weapons in error? I have here a chart provided to me by Indra Prime. It notes the fluctuations in the STC that were caused by Federal "Chronoton torpedos" and the possible damage they could cause, should one hit a temporal string or wormhole or any similar temporal barrier. It would result in wholesale destruction and upheaval of everything we know. I only have five copies, so I shall pass four of them around the room. Now think about how often TFU uses temporal weapons, and think about the chances of completely screwing up the STC with said weapons. Temporal weapons are quite simply a last resort. Like nuclear weapons in ancient times. So continued and frequent Federal use of these weapons means one of two things: The Federals know but don't care about the risks, or the Federals are negligent in the extreme. Which is true I wonder? That is why I want Federal temporal weapons banned."

"The Skeelzanians nor TFU had not encountered each other previously to the best of my limited knowldage. So you would be facing a race you knew nothing about, equipped with armed vessels in your territory.

As for the gunports issue, it is possible that their ports were jammed open, or the system was malfunctioning. Not that that was the case, but having gunports open does not necessarily mean the ship has a hostile intent. It could be a sociological show of strength, or that they approach with all their cards on the table so to speak."

Strauss has no aide so he just takes a swig of water and makes a note to wish his wife a happy anniversary.



Strauss looked at the Formal Dances delegate with pity. "I have plenty of skill at negotiation. However, my government told me that I don't have to negotiate. I just have to hand down an ultimatum. I mean, eventually one side or the other would violate any treaty set down, so what's the point? I actually spent quite a bit of time working on this treaty, even though I didn't have to. By most standards, it would be quite soft. The only real restrictions on TFU are the aforementioned cessation of superweapon research, and giving back colonies that were wrenched from Skeelzania. I did not ask TFU to reduce their conventional military forces. I merely told them to stop researching weapons that could destroy us all. I did not ask for reperations, excepting the Skeelzanian ones, and I tried to avoid infringing on Federal Soverignty with the exception of the WMD restrictions. In retrospect, the blanket limit on temporal tech is somewhat unfair. As such, it will be downgraded to anything which can change the STC. Casual observers should be acceptable I suppose. But temporal weapons have got to go. As is any way to change history. Those are extremely volitile technologies, and they should be destroyed, or kept under lock and key. The problem with the latter is that we do not trust the Union to do that.

Your arguement that we should disarm as well does not apply. We have no cluster destroying superweapons available. We have no temporal weapons available. We have only miniscule singularity weapons which open tiny singularities. No larger than twenty five meters (that's the event horizon mind you.) And even those don't work well. They are more of a cheap gimmick, but I digress.

The CF plan for peace was simple in its entirety.

It called for TFU to cease research on superweapons and to destroy any that existed in their space. This would be monitored by an international coalition of inspectors. Yes, it would include you. And you do get a say in the disarmament program. AFTER it has started. There can be no disarmament until the treaty has been signed, ja? The inspectors would only be there to destroy Federal WMDs. Not place limits on their conventional forces. Of course, if the Federals were NOT building superweapons for use on others, why would they be so concerned about it?

There can be no compromise in the traditional sense. TFU must cease this superweapon research before they kill us all. Other than that, everything else is open to discussion. I am willing to meet you half way on all other issues but the superweapon one. On that, there can be no compromise."

Strauss was rapidly feeling drained. He found it easy to rebuke the various arguements, but the stress and scheming was starting to take a toll upon him.
Robert Sighed a bit and clamly said "no you want my temporal wepondry banned becuse you want tatical and milltary supriority over it .. i will simply refuse that becuse we only use them agianst emmys who attacked us .. and second off all your only spweing out demands and insults .. you are berly even trying to reatch a comprmise " he looked at all the delgates the conunied " and how will i kill you all ? Why would i want to ? even if i could also me takeing off my WMD research will be like puting my hand in a bee hive .. i wont do it you can wine and scream all you want its goign to get you no were ..." he lleaned back on the chair he was sititng in sighing said one more thing " And im not the imprlist here who wants to acusse my innocet nation for soem thign it didint do . we may have made mistakesi n the past but any one can make mistakes even your nation . no one is perfect... I shure as hell aint .. thank you for your time" He drank some Fed union iced tea from a thermis

"That is the problem here! Your SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE! That is the purpose of these talks! Ultimatums are only issued before war is declared. If you are not here to negotiate then why are you here ambassador? These talks are about peace, not war. What that ultimatum is, is nothing more than weakening TFU! Corneliu is right, this is nothing more than a provocative measure. The minute he signs that treaty, I'll place good odds and I don't even gamble, that you would provoke him into making the first move. I'm neither for him or against him. I just want what is fair from both sides. If you can't come to grips with that Ambassador than why are you here? You have delievered your ultimatum and it was rejected by the TFU representative. Since he rejected it, NEGOTIATIONS FOLLOW! That is how diplomacy works. I guess you never tried diplomacy. Now can we all negotiate here on a true peace deal or is this now a waste of time thanks to the incompetence of Central Facehuggeria."

At that point, her aide whispered "Not a wise move. I agree but not a wise one! I suggest you end this speech now before you get into deeper trouble."

"Greg, not in this case. He said it himself that it was an ultimatum and that it can't be negotiated. He has drawn the line in the sand. Its time he realizes that his strongarm tactics won't work here."

She turned back to him! "Ambassador, you have come here in the hopes of finding peace however this so called ultimatum ended that. How do you know he is funding superweapons? This so called Indra Prime maybe an expert on this temporal stuff but how do we know your just not saying it or that they are trying to paint the TFU in a bad light? Anything can be subject to scrutiny and this is one of those things. Now lets negotiate a true peace deal and hope that we can still reach one."

As she looked over at her aide again, he sighed but nodded slightly that she said the right thing. As she sat down, she wrote some notes down and places them in her folder! "This is going to be tougher than we thought" she whispered to Greg!
"Your right" he wispered back, "Nice job in telling him off even if it was diplomatically done." He chuckles to himself. Melissa smiles slightly at that and waits for a rebuke from Central Facehuggeria.

Strauss started laughing so hard he almost had a heart attack. "I already said I would be willing to meet TFU half way on all the issues with the exception of the superweapons. In fact, TFU and Skeelzania can work out how they divide up the GQ colonies. I no longer give a ratts buttocks. It's quite frankly too much of a chore.

You asked 'Why am I here?' That much should be obvious. My government wanted me to deliver an ultimatum. I, however, have decided to attempt to negotiate. Hence why I'm still here, and have not told my nation of the proceedings. I am still hoping TFU will see the light, and abandon these mad schemes for power before they kill us all. I hope for peace, but not a peace insured by terrible weapons of unimaginable destructive power. Balance of terror does not work. TFU's construction of such lethal weapons could start a new arms race.

Now, you asked a very good question. How DO we know that the Indrans are not lying to us? I suppose we do not. However, we do know that the continued use of Federal temporal weapons will eventually cause extreme damage to the STC. Our own scientists agree with the Indrans on this regard. If you do not believe me, our scientists can give you their findings in a nice and clean cut report.

As for data on the other superweapons we think TFU is developing, we only know from long range sensor telemetry and second hand accounts. In two instances, our data is consistent with the sudden formation of a small sized black hole in a particual system. This hole then subsided within the space of an hour. It is quite obvious that was artifical. And seeing as how it always happened in Federal systems, and cryptic communications seemed to eminate from the system...

As for the anti-matter weapons? I was making an infrence, as I said before. They may or may not be developing them. I merely aim to prevent them from developing extremely large WMDs in the future.

Oh...And I do not appreciate having my nation called incompetent. Please try to maintain some civility, Ma'am. I have showed you and your nation respect, despite the fact that a nation of your size is not even on our radar. All I ask from you in turn is a little less insulting and more counterargueing.

As I said, I am willing to listen to the Federal side of the proverbial story before I present my 'evidence' of Federal wrongdoing. To tell you the truth, I shouldn't have given out the charts yet. I had this little presentation all planned out and everything. Oh well." Strauss smiled to himself after that comment. The Formal Dances delegate was skilled, he'd give her that. A bit hot headed, resorting to insults, but she had definite talent. Much like a young diplomat named Bernard, years ago. Those were the days, back when the government had honor, back when negotiation meant 'give and take' instead of 'this is what I get. You'll like it or things'll get messy.'

Ahh to have the old Premier back...

During the arguements which were clearly rising on all sides, Kayla harmone simply sat and took note of each nations concerns, carefully concidering her next words in a hope to bring clarity to the table once more.

After allowing everyone to finish their grand stand she cleared her throat before starting her peice in a calm, firm tone.

"People, people... this bickering isn't getting us anywhere. Your all speaking too loud and saying too much at once, if we are going to resolve anything it's going to have to be one piece at a time so we can learn what is acceptable and what isn't, then we can get around our problems with what isn't once we've identifed them a peice at a time.

"These long drawn out statements may have alot of content, but the fact is that you are holding three or four arguements in each reply. None of which are being solved any faster." Kayla sighed, clearly she let this get out of hand so now it was up to her to make the process easier.

"I say we start again with the basics: Weapons of Mass Destruction. It is Iuthia's view that WMD are at best, a defence measure, a rather poor one at that and as such we have personally removed our nuclear weapons in place for better defence systems such as NAFDA.

"This isn't to say that we force these ideals on others; Mutually Assured Destruction is still a very valid concept in many nation. However we cannot see why both sides can't at the very least reduce their WMD

"Oh sure, Central Facehuggeria isn't the focus of our attention here, but they must understand that these talks are a two way thing and that having one side with WMD and removing WMD from the other is a dangerous affair... enemies have been known to take advantage of such.

"So it can only be fair that if one side is required to reduce, if not destroy it's arsnel then the other should do so to as a sign of good faith?"

"The black hole could've resulted from something else! I would be glad to hear more on how you care to meet them half way. You must've known that he was going to reject this ultimatum so I don't know why you even presented it. But that isn't my worry. What is my worry is getting a comprehensive peace between all the major parties involved here. A peace that will last for a very long time. As for Indria Prime, I have to have more information on them but even they are prone to mistakes I bet! No one is infallible. I am glad that you are willing to meet TFU Halfway and I hope he feels the sameway. We know nothing on their superweapons and it'll be interesting to hear from them! Now what I request is that you listen intently to what he has to say WITHOUT interruptions just like I'm sure he'll listen to you without interruptions. From there we should work towards the middle and together we should reach an accord that'll benefit all sides of this issue."

As she sat back down, her aide leaned over and patted her on the shoulder. "Well done" he whispered, "thanks Greg" and takes a drink of water.

Robert Sighed a bit and clamly said "no you want my temporal wepondry banned becuse you want tatical and milltary supriority over it .. i will simply refuse that becuse we only use them agianst emmys who attacked us .. and second off all your only spweing out demands and insults .. you are berly even trying to reatch a comprmise " he looked at all the delgates the conunied " and how will i kill you all ? Why would i want to ? even if i could also me takeing off my WMD research will be like puting my hand in a bee hive .. i wont do it you can wine and scream all you want its goign to get you no were ..." he lleaned back on the chair he was sititng in sighing said one more thing " And im not the imprlist here who wants to acusse my innocet nation for soem thign it didint do . we may have made mistakesi n the past but any one can make mistakes even your nation . no one is perfect... I shure as hell aint .. thank you for your time" He drank some Fed union iced tea from a thermis

Strauss remained silent, waiting for the Federals to continue. He would easily rebuke their arguements, but his word was his word. He said he'd give them time, and that's what he'd give them.

OOC: The problem with that, Iuthia, is that I don't have any notable WMDs to speak of. I've got a hideous DNA eating virus that I don't use, and I have ship-ship nukes. That's all. I have nothing capable of blowing up a moon, or a star, or anything like that really.

Bump to keep it on the top page. Just for response purposes.

OCC: Unfortunately, I have the habit of going to work for five hours when I should be making a valid post. Oh well.

IC: Vladimir downed half his glass and leaned forward, resting on his forearms. "I must correct my Facehuggerian counterpart. Before the Gamma Quadrant Issue arose, my government had had limited contact with the Federal Union. We were aware of the paper tiger in the Alpha Quadrant, who had a habit of throwing his weight around, stopping only when threatened with complete annihilation. With this prejudice in mind, we encountered the Federal Colonization Fleet.

"I have with me the complete log of the King Tiger, a civilian heavy cruiser that was in the system being "colonized." We did in fact have a installation there, a small supply and monitoring station, disguised as an asteroid on the far side of the system. The King Tiger had just finished taking on supplies there, when unidentified energy signatures were detected across-system.

"Skeelzania retains the right to temporarily conscript any civilian vessel for military use. At the time, the King Tiger was one of the most powerful ships in the Quadrant, so it was promptly ordered across the system to investigate. When it arrived, it moved towards the Federal Fleet and attempted to establish contact. Without warning, the Federal ships opened fire.

"Not surprisingly, the King Tiger returned fire and crippled or destroyed 5 Federal vessels. By this time, sever damage had been inflicted on the cruiser, forcing it to withdraw."

Taking another drink, Vladimir slowly looked at the Pro-Federals. "This was our first real contact. A sizeable fleet, barging into one of our systems, firing on one of our vessels, and stealing our planets. How would any of you like it if a man came into your house, punched on of your children, and then set up a sleeping bag in the front room? All the while making no attempt to communicate with you?

"Now, frankly I put no stock in the non-aggression pacts formed by this treaty. However, I can offer the Federal Union protection from Skeelzanian aggression if 1) the colonies are returned and 2) TFU ceases all development of offensive temporal weapons. These are simply stupid and to dangerous a weapon any way you look at them, and have no place in the universe. We ourselves have never even considered the possibility of temporal weapons and severely punish those who try to develope them in secret. If TFU can meet us on those two points, I can gaurentee peace between our two powers."

Dr. Peter Bronton hurried into the hall, and quietly sat in the area for all the neutral parties. The Austar Union, as an earthly nation hadnt been involved with any interstellar or space incidences, and therefore Dr. Bronton was unable to comment on such activity. What he had known however, was that The Fedral Union seemed an aggressive space-faring nation, starting wars in areas not even known to the Austarians, and he would comment from that position.

"People, I think the anger of which you display is not unmerited. We have only seen snippets of what you talk about, and it appears to myself and my government that the presence of the Fedral Union seems to escalate conflict in itself. Therefore, I have drafted a treaty as such."

Presenting the treaty to the delegates, he smiled as they began to read.

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Treaty of Universal Peace - Fedral Aspect

1. The Fedral Union to dismantle all offensive aspects of their fleets, and to dismantle all offensive aspects of their overall military. Defensive aspects are recognised as a requirement for national defense and sovierignty.

2. The Fedral Union to dismantle all weapons under the Weapons of Mass Destruction catagory.

3. The Fedral Union to be open to random inspection from a multi-national team, to check for any breaches of this said treaty. The Fedral Government must also answer to all questions from the multi-national team.

4. The Fedral Union to dis-enact any policy of Mutually Assured Destruction. Such policies only rise conflict to levels which are far beyond the original incident.

5. The Fedral Union to withdraw their diplomatic nose from all incidences, UNLESS it strictly involves them, their people, or their territory.

6. A mutual non-aggression pact is to be signed by the Fedral Union, stating that it will not attack any other nation, territory, or people offensivly.
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"As you can tell, we believe in limiting the current activities of the Fedral Union. We have a firm belief that if such a treaty was to be temporarily invoked, tension with the Fedral Union would lower, and once a time is announced, the restrictions could be removed."

Hannity turned to the Auster Ambassador!

"You can't be serious! We already went through this. Frankly, I applaud Skeelzania for his calmness in which he stated and I think we can build on what he said. However, I have problems with your treaty just as I had problems with Central Facehuggeria's ultimatum.

"Your treaty ambassador doesn't mention about the rest of the parties involved, only against the TFU! I, in good concience can't accept what this treaty says. Since we are here as a neutral 3rd party, it is our duty to make sure that this is done fairly. Yours and Facehuggeria's isn't fair. Skeelzania really isn't fair but something that CAN be build upon into something fair that will benefit BOTH sides. That is the purpose here. To come to a conclusive agreement that all sides can agree to and that all sides can abide by! That is why we are here, to make sure this happens."

She took a deep breath and took a sip of water before she continued.

"My nation is currently drafting up a said peace accord. As soon as its completed, I shall present it to you all. Hopefully that what this treaty, when completed, will be acceptable to all sides of this table."

She took another sip of water as she sat down as it dawned on her just how good she really is at diplomacy, a fact that hit home with the smile from her aide complete with a wink.

Strauss turned towards the Austar Union delegate and began applauding him. "That is an even better Treaty than the one I proposed! Not a chance in hell of them accepting it, but it's still pretty good. I've become convinced that TFU will never give up their aggressive bent."

He then turned to the Formal Dances delegate and said "If you have a treaty to place on the table, let's see it. Otherwise, could you please stop making vague references to a vaporware treaty that isn't finished? This goes for the esteemed admiral Server as well."

He then turned to the Formal Dances delegate and said "If you have a treaty to place on the table, let's see it. Otherwise, could you please stop making vague references to a vaporware treaty that isn't finished? This goes for the esteemed admiral Server as well."

"We will present it when it is completed. I've stated as such! We are putting the finishing touches on it now. When it is completed, we shall present it. Don't start demanding that you should see it now! You all will see it when it is completed ambassador!" Hannity with an edge in her voice!

"We will present it when it is completed. I've stated as such! We are putting the finishing touches on it now. When it is completed, we shall present it. Don't start demanding that you should see it now! You all will see it when it is completed ambassador!" Hannity with an edge in her voice!

Strauss smilied. "I wasn't asking to see it now. I was asking you to stop making vague references to something that isn't finished yet."

Strauss smilied. "I wasn't asking to see it now. I was asking you to stop making vague references to something that isn't finished yet."

Smiling sweetly she replied, "Just putting you on notice ambassador that a treaty was coming. No vague references about it!"

Dr. Peter Bronton turned to Hannity from Formal Dances, "I can understand your misinterpretation of our treaty. See, this treaty is not designed to just benefit those who are opposed to the Fedral Union. Infact, we have noticed that the leaders of the Fedral Union have absolutley no clue on running their nation without, ahem, pissing off alot of people around them, excuse my french.

See, we see a lack of responsibility from the Fedral Union government. If they cannot run their nation properley, then we will be doing them a favour in removing such responsibility. We are simply removing their ability to piss off the people around them. See, it IS in fact a mutually beneficial treaty. People dont get pissed off, and the Fedral Union manages to NOT be annexed into several independant smaller quadrants. Sounds pretty beneficial to me.

Have you not seen the passion of those people who are against the Fedral Union? These talks are the last thing preventing a full-scale war, and if the Fedral Union doesnt take opportunities like these to seek their own selfish ambition, I fear there will be no Fedral Union for much longer."

Dr. Peter Bronton turned to Hannity from Formal Dances, "I can understand your misinterpretation of our treaty. See, this treaty is not designed to just benefit those who are opposed to the Fedral Union. Infact, we have noticed that the leaders of the Fedral Union have absolutley no clue on running their nation without, ahem, pissing off alot of people around them, excuse my french.

See, we see a lack of responsibility from the Fedral Union government. If they cannot run their nation properley, then we will be doing them a favour in removing such responsibility. We are simply removing their ability to piss off the people around them. See, it IS in fact a mutually beneficial treaty. People dont get pissed off, and the Fedral Union manages to NOT be annexed into several independant smaller quadrants. Sounds pretty beneficial to me.

Have you not seen the passion of those people who are against the Fedral Union? These talks are the last thing preventing a full-scale war, and if the Fedral Union doesnt take opportunities like these to seek their own selfish ambition, I fear there will be no Fedral Union for much longer."

"I guess I didn't make myself clear!" She started. "How is this beneficial to them? It isn't Ambassador. This treaty limits their capacity to defend themselves. As for ticking people off, most nations have that habit. As I've said before, I think Skeelzania's propasal at least as merit. We can build on that. Your treaty isn't even worth considering. You claim it benefits all sides, however all restrictions are one ONE nation. That isn't even balanced. A treaty is give and take. All I see here is take from TFU and give them nothing. That is not how negotiations are done."

She takes a sip of water while trying to keep her anger under control.

"You claim that your helping TFU. This treaty is the exact opposite. It hurts them on a scale that is unimaginable. Even your 6th point can't be considered though I do agree with a non-aggression pact. A non-aggression pact, however, is between two or more nations. What that point says to me is that they can never take offensive actions against any enemy that is threatening them. That is how I read it. Before you say that is not what it means, look at how you word it. That is what it means."

She sits back down and takes another sip of water. Greg leans in and places a hand on her shoulder. "Your doing fine! Keep it up." All she did was give a slight nod and sigh deeply.

"I guess I didn't make myself clear!" She started. "How is this beneficial to them? It isn't Ambassador. This treaty limits their capacity to defend themselves. As for ticking people off, most nations have that habit. As I've said before, I think Skeelzania's propasal at least as merit. We can build on that. Your treaty isn't even worth considering. You claim it benefits all sides, however all restrictions are one ONE nation. That isn't even balanced. A treaty is give and take. All I see here is take from TFU and give them nothing. That is not how negotiations are done."

She takes a sip of water while trying to keep her anger under control.

"You claim that your helping TFU. This treaty is the exact opposite. It hurts them on a scale that is unimaginable. Even your 6th point can't be considered though I do agree with a non-aggression pact. A non-aggression pact, however, is between two or more nations. What that point says to me is that they can never take offensive actions against any enemy that is threatening them. That is how I read it. Before you say that is not what it means, look at how you word it. That is what it means."

She sits back down and takes another sip of water. Greg leans in and places a hand on her shoulder. "Your doing fine! Keep it up." All she did was give a slight nod and sigh deeply.

Strauss began to speak again "If I may, for my esteemed Austarian friend, This treaty does help TFU. It keeps them from being annexed, something that is highly likely.

Unless you're saying the TFU people would be better off in a CF slave camp?

It does not hurt them defensively. It places no restriction on defensive armaments. Only offensive weapons and WMDs."

Strauss began to speak again "If I may, for my esteemed Austarian friend, This treaty does help TFU. It keeps them from being annexed, something that is highly likely.

It does not hurt them defensively. It places no restriction on defensive armaments. Only offensive weapons and WMDs."

"Define an offensive weapon. In and of itself, a warship is an offensive weapon. A hand gun is an offensive weapon. A missile is an offensive. An army and navy are offensive weapons. All this talk is about TFU! You guys are forgetting that this is a PEACE CONFERENCE! The purpose so that ALL sides can come together and AGREE on a peace that will last. These two treaties don't do that. It only benefits the anti-TFU side. You may claim that it benefits them by not getting them annexed, however your placing restrictions on them that'll make it hard for them to DEFEND themselves if they are attacked."

Strauss cleared his throat and said "Offensive weapon: Any long ranged and well armed space vessel. Any weapons capable of carrying WMDs. Anything that has the range and firepower to attack TFU's neighbors. Any WMDs or other grotesquely large weapons.

They can build system defense ships out the wazzu for all we care. But offensive weapons are a big nono."

After sipping some water, he continued. "The fact of the matter is that if this confrence fails, TFU will be invaded. They will likely be conquered, their territory partitioned, and their people turned into slaves. Now ask yourself, what is better? A life of freedom with restrictions on offensive weapons, or total slavery under alien overlords? Because that is what is probably going to happen if we fail to do what we came here to do."

Strauss cleared his throat and said "Offensive weapon: Any long ranged and well armed space vessel. Any weapons capable of carrying WMDs. Anything that has the range and firepower to attack TFU's neighbors. Any WMDs or other grotesquely large weapons.

They can build system defense ships out the wazzu for all we care. But offensive weapons are a big nono."

After sipping some water, he continued. "The fact of the matter is that if this confrence fails, TFU will be invaded. They will likely be conquered, their territory partitioned, and their people turned into slaves. Now ask yourself, what is better? A life of freedom with restrictions on offensive weapons, or total slavery under alien overlords? Because that is what is probably going to happen if we fail to do what we came here to do."

Seeing the opportunity arise, she attacked Central Facehuggeria's comments "You just said it yourself! Thans for proving my point. You just stated that they can not have any long ranged and well armed vessels. That would hamper their capacity to defend themselves in the event of a long distance attack. Anything can carry a WMD at his level and your level of technology like a suitcase or a backpack. Those could carry WMD! Under what your saying, they won't be able to have those things either. That is why I oppose yours and Auster Union's proposals. They limit his capacity to defend himself as well as attack when necessary. As for defensive ships, these will be well armed and would have to be long range to defend the size of space that TFU occupies currently. That would violate the proposal. Thus their defensive ships, though long range, won't have the capacity to stop a well armed enemy that will attack him. If your so worried about them being turned to slaves then put a proposal on the table that is ACCEPTABLE because frankly, TFU is right in rejecting your Facehuggeria and I know that they will reject Auster Union's proposal as well. Why? For the stated reasons that I just gave."

She sips some water and prepares for the next line of arguement.

1. The Fedral Union to dismantle all offensive aspects of their fleets, and to dismantle all offensive aspects of their overall military. Defensive aspects are recognised as a requirement for national defense and sovierignty.

I doubt you or any nation here would accept or obay this demand unless they were forced to surrender... it is unacceptable unless I we assume that miltary vessals are disigned by default to be defence based. I'm surprised that you, Austar Union, would ask a such a vague idea of an nation... all military can be either descibed as defence or offence depending on the nations objectives.

2. The Fedral Union to dismantle all weapons under the Weapons of Mass Destruction catagory.

3. The Fedral Union to be open to random inspection from a multi-national team, to check for any breaches of this said treaty. The Fedral Government must also answer to all questions from the multi-national team.

4. The Fedral Union to dis-enact any policy of Mutually Assured Destruction. Such policies only rise conflict to levels which are far beyond the original incident.

All three are only acceptable if all factions agree to such. You would have a nation remove it's WMD capabilities when they are used to make sure others will not use their WMD weapons against them? We're here to work something out to stop war alround, not to punish TFU or make them easy to invade... seeing as a nation has only recently declared war with TFU for no reason it's important to make sure that they are still capable of defending themselves.

5. The Fedral Union to withdraw their diplomatic nose from all incidences, UNLESS it strictly involves them, their people, or their territory.

No one would accept this, not you nor I. Afterall, it's not like we don't stick our nose in other nations affairs, such as this peace conference itself.

This demand should be changed to force TFU and others to respect national soverienty, this way TFU and other cannot interfere physically unless they are asked to do so by someone directly involved.

6. A mutual non-aggression pact is to be signed by the Fedral Union, stating that it will not attack any other nation, territory, or people offensivly.

This should go both ways, TFU can defend themseves from agression, so can others. Neither can act without due provocation.

Iuthia has done alot of work with the Fedral Union and we are working to make sure they don't get into this mess again. I repsect that there will be territory issues and those issues can be solved among yourselves, Iuthia has little knowledge of the problems in regards to territory...

But forcing TFU to disarm itself is not acceptable unless others are prepared to do so themselves...

Seeing the opportunity arise, she attacked Central Facehuggeria's comments "You just said it yourself! Thans for proving my point. You just stated that they can not have any long ranged and well armed vessels. That would hamper their capacity to defend themselves in the event of a long distance attack. Anything can carry a WMD at his level and your level of technology like a suitcase or a backpack. Those could carry WMD! Under what your saying, they won't be able to have those things either. That is why I oppose yours and Auster Union's proposals. They limit his capacity to defend himself as well as attack when necessary. As for defensive ships, these will be well armed and would have to be long range to defend the size of space that TFU occupies currently. That would violate the proposal. Thus their defensive ships, though long range, won't have the capacity to stop a well armed enemy that will attack him. If your so worried about them being turned to slaves then put a proposal on the table that is ACCEPTABLE because frankly, TFU is right in rejecting your Facehuggeria and I know that they will reject Auster Union's proposal as well. Why? For the stated reasons that I just gave."

She sips some water and prepares for the next line of arguement.

Strauss saw a unique oppertunity. This foolish girl completely misunderstood his arguements. "I said specifically that they cannot have any large or well armed vessels. You are correct. Short ranged well armed vessels are quite acceptable. Vessels which don't have the range to strike their neighbors are acceptable. Vessels which have the range, but not the firepower to strike TFU's neighbors are acceptable. The only type of vessel that is not acceptable is the well armed and long ranged variety, that TFU has used in the past to subjugate and conquer.

So each TFU system will have a dedicated short ranged defense fleet. That is not a big problem. It also ensures they won't be able to attack their neighbors.

Perhaps I was wrong in saying 'anything' which can carry WMDs. I should have said 'Any specific warheads or planetary bombardment weapons capable of carrying WMDs.' I admit I was in error there. However, limiting TFU's offensive capability is exactly the point of this treaty, so that no other nations will have to fight a war against a Federal Union that intruded upon their affairs.

The treaty I proposed was perfectly acceptable. If TFU has warmongering intentions for which they need those WMDs, then they'll be over soon enough. One way or another.

Strauss saw a unique oppertunity. This foolish girl completely misunderstood his arguements. "I said specifically that they cannot have any large or well armed vessels. You are correct. Short ranged well armed vessels are quite acceptable. Vessels which don't have the range to strike their neighbors are acceptable. Vessels which have the range, but not the firepower to strike TFU's neighbors are acceptable. The only type of vessel that is not acceptable is the well armed and long ranged variety, that TFU has used in the past to subjugate and conquer.

So each TFU system will have a dedicated short ranged defense fleet. That is not a big problem. It also ensures they won't be able to attack their neighbors.

Perhaps I was wrong in saying 'anything' which can carry WMDs. I should have said 'Any specific warheads or planetary bombardment weapons capable of carrying WMDs.' I admit I was in error there. However, limiting TFU's offensive capability is exactly the point of this treaty, so that no other nations will have to fight a war against a Federal Union that intruded upon their affairs.

The treaty I proposed was perfectly acceptable. If TFU has warmongering intentions for which they need those WMDs, then they'll be over soon enough. One way or another.

"Sir, any ship well have the range to attack anywhere! You of all people should know that. A small, well armed vessel could cause alot of damage no matter what! A small vessel could go the same distant as a large vessel. We are not a space tech nation and even we know that! A corvette can go just as far as a battle ship and cause damage. Maybe not as much as a battleship but can cause damage. A plane with missiles can cause the same damage as a bomber with bombs! A gun can kill as many people as a hand grenade! You may limit the size but as i've stated before, sir, doesn't matter the size to go far!"

As she sits, she sips her water and Greg nods at her in approval! While seated, she turns to Noitan Teppup!

"Sir I respect what you have said. You are right that if one side disarms, others must do the same. However, the Anti-TFU forces can't see that. They want to limit TFU only and not limit themselves. This only hurts the peace conference. It doesn't help it! During our own turmoil, it took months to get the factions to disarm. Now we have a functioning government. Here, some disarmament from all sides should be in any peace accord. That can only assure that peace can be accomplished."

After a brief absence, she comes back with a piece of paper in her hands.

"I can probably tell how this is going to be received by most of the delegates here but I will state the treaty anyway that we have worked on. This is what we propose:

TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN TFU, HER ALLIES, AND HER ENEMIES

I Central Facehuggeria
A. Agrees to a non-agression pact between Central FaceHuggeria and TFU! This will ensure that neither side engages in warfare again!
B. Agrees to recognize the current bounderies as they are now. This will ensure the territorial integrity of TFU and to make sure that no conflict is started
C. Agrees to either a Demiliterized Zone or a Neutral Zone that will be patrolled by a Neutral 3rd party to be agreed upon at these talks.
D. Agrees to reduce the biological or chemical agent that it has! We aren't asking that they get rid of it all just lower it!

II Skeelzania
A. Agrees to a non-aggression pact between Skeelzania and TFU! This will ensure that neither side engages in warfare again!
B. That a couple of colonies that TFU has colonized, be allowed to remain in their hands. If this isn't acceptable, then maybe a suitable compromise can be negotiated between these two people
C. Agrees to either a DMZ or to a Neutral Zone that will be patrolled by a neutral Third party.
D. Agrees to current borders at where they are now. Of course this will coincide with section B under this Heading!
E. Agrees to a limit WMD developement and to a limited disarmament of WMD!

III The Fedral Union
A. Agrees to limit their WMD research
B. Agrees to a non-agression pact between Central Facehuggeria and Skeelzania.
C. Agrees to recognize to the current borders as they currently are now! This will ensure TFU's, Skeelzania, and Central Facehuggeria's territorial integrity.
D. Agrees to either a DMZ or a Neutral Zone to be patrolled by a neutral third Party.

This is all that I have right now. Some of this is negotiable, however the disarmament and the Non-Agression pacts are not negotiable. They are necessary to ensure that peace reigns. I am willing to compromise on some of the points except for Disarmament and a non-agression pact."

She sits down and takes in some water as her mouth was as dry as cotton from stating the treaty she has just put on the table. As she regained herself, her aide passed out the treaty to all parties present.

"This is the copy of the treaty." he stated. "Please read every point carefully. Remember what Hannity has said. Some points are negotiable and some aren't negotiable." he finished passing them out the delegates and as he sat down in his chair, he patted her on the shoulder and whispered to her, "Well down, madam ambassador. Your father would've been proud." She smiled as he said that and waits for the fall out.

Vladimir barked out a laugh as Hannity presented her treaty. "Obviously, you haven't been listening to anything me or Strauss has said. TFU retaining any Gamma Quadrant colonies is not open to debate: they will either hand them over peaceably, or we will be forced to act. Skeelzania will not tolerate them flaunting themselves on our worlds much longer.

"Section C is almost as laughable. A third-party patrolling a neutral zone? Do you honestly expect me OR Robert to allow some arbitrarily decided country to station warships within striking distance of both our countries? While an unpatrolled neutral zone is open to possibilites, I will not allow armed naval forces that close to our borders.

"And now we come to Section E. Who is to say what classifies as a weapon of mass destruction and what doesn't? Only a few lightseconds away sits the vessel I arrived in. In addition to the 8 twenty megaton nuclear warheads it carries, there are numerous fusion torpedoes and missiles of lesser power, not to mention the plasma and railgun armament. Any of these weapons can destroy whole cities, even continents given enough time, yet they are all standard fare on an armed warship. Would you have us assault eachother with sticks and sharp words?"

He leaned back in his chair, taking another drink of water. "Until these points are addressed, Skeelzania will not agree to this treaty."

Vladimir barked out a laugh as Hannity presented her treaty. "Obviously, you haven't been listening to anything me or Strauss has said. TFU retaining any Gamma Quadrant colonies is not open to debate: they will either hand them over peaceably, or we will be forced to act. Skeelzania will not tolerate them flaunting themselves on our worlds much longer.

"Section C is almost as laughable. A third-party patrolling a neutral zone? Do you honestly expect me OR Robert to allow some arbitrarily decided country to station warships within striking distance of both our countries? While an unpatrolled neutral zone is open to possibilites, I will not allow armed naval forces that close to our borders.

"And now we come to Section E. Who is to say what classifies as a weapon of mass destruction and what doesn't? Only a few lightseconds away sits the vessel I arrived in. In addition to the 8 twenty megaton nuclear warheads it carries, there are numerous fusion torpedoes and missiles of lesser power, not to mention the plasma and railgun armament. Any of these weapons can destroy whole cities, even continents given enough time, yet they are all standard fare on an armed warship. Would you have us assault eachother with sticks and sharp words?"

He leaned back in his chair, taking another drink of water. "Until these points are addressed, Skeelzania will not agree to this treaty."
Robert said as he siged "I will only limit My WMD research when Others have done so .. i dont see any one else doing ing and CF.. ive had it up to here with you and your constant bagering I will not get rid of my offnsive capiltys i will not get rid of my WMD's nor my star ships i will not agree to # 1 # 2 and # 3 .. those are totaly un acceptible... i have doen nothing wrong and im willing to reduce my WMD's if all nations in the alpha quadrent and gamma ,delta agree to do so . and Section C of Formals propstion wont be accepted ... we could alwyas set it up like the (Romulan nutral zone) " he uhemed a bit "and i have you know My out post in the gamma quadrent were jsut attacked i dont know by whom but i wont fling acussations .. Cf you need to learn how to nagotatie .. stop telling me to disarm my milltary im obviously not going to accept it " he uhmed again " Au The Allaince is responicble with its WMD's were not like ESUS nations who constantly try to use them CF doseint relize what hes spewing and frankly im getting tired of hereing these lies " he siged a bit angerly

Strauss thought for a moment, images of strangleing the life out of the TFU president welling up into his head, but fizzeling off as he remastered control.

He turned to Hannity. "A DMZ is not really practical. Our only possessions are in the Sol system. There is no zone to patrol. We will also completely eliminate our biological and chemical WMDs, if we have an ironclad garentee by TFU that they shall do the same for their Temporal weapons and anti-matter WMDs. This garentee will be ensured by arms inspectors. Arms inspectors will also be allowed into Central Facehuggeria.

However, some sort of ammendment limiting Federal Imperialism in the future will have to be added. If not on our behalf, then on someone elses'. "

He then turned to Rob with a passion in his eyes. "You don't understand, do you!? The ESUS has only used Temporal WMDs in two conflicts, always as last resorts. Both times, the Shivans were threatening to eradicate all human life in the galaxy. Completely different from your wholesale use of them on anyone who you're fighting.

As for the 'Romulan neutral zone', I've never heard of it. I am aware of no race nor nation nor planet named Romulus. (ICly.)

Oh and...disarm your military. It is a danger to all involved here, what with your disregard for national soverignty."

Strauss thought for a moment, images of strangleing the life out of the TFU president welling up into his head, but fizzeling off as he remastered control.

He turned to Hannity. "A DMZ is not really practical. Our only possessions are in the Sol system. There is no zone to patrol. We will also completely eliminate our biological and chemical WMDs, if we have an ironclad garentee by TFU that they shall do the same for their Temporal weapons and anti-matter WMDs. This garentee will be ensured by arms inspectors. Arms inspectors will also be allowed into Central Facehuggeria.

However, some sort of ammendment limiting Federal Imperialism in the future will have to be added. If not on our behalf, then on someone elses'. "

He then turned to Rob with a passion in his eyes. "You don't understand, do you!? The ESUS has only used Temporal WMDs in two conflicts, always as last resorts. Both times, the Shivans were threatening to eradicate all human life in the galaxy. Completely different from your wholesale use of them on anyone who you're fighting.

As for the 'Romulan neutral zone', I've never heard of it. I am aware of no race nor nation nor planet named Romulus. (ICly.)

Oh and...disarm your military. It is a danger to all involved here, what with your disregard for national soverignty."

Robert Clamly said "If your going to be a big baby about all of this why are you here our temporal wepons will stay how ever we will limit our anti matter wepons due to the cuse that we dont want to start a galtic cold war " uhem " And your some hipocraite ... im not the imprilist here im shure your nation has been imprlistic in a lot of ways And like i said i will accept no such agreement that infringes on my sovgrhinty have i made ANY LUDCRIST DEMANDS OF YOU ? NO I HAVEINT yet you have done to me your constantly railing on and on about my imprilism .. since WHEN have i conqured any one ?And since when have i taken some one elses land knowingly and forceibly ANSWER ME THAT! There is NO RECORD of my nation attacking any other nation WIth out reason and there is no record of me Imprlisticly takeing things that arint ours CAN YOU SAY THE SAME AOBUT YOUR HISTORY.. i refuse to lisen to your lies EITHER GET YOUR STORY STRAITE AND Make some RESONBLE DEMANDS OR COMPRMISES OR GET OUT OF THIS CONFRANCE ... becuse al lyour going is whineing and screaming wolf..." uhem after that he sighed looking tired and stressed out he drank some more tea

James was getting mildly anoyed at all the shouting.

"As far as I'm aware the host of the conference, i.e myself, is the one who has the power to say who should leave and who should stay. So I would prefer that in the future we shouldn't talk about making other leave this conference unless it's a request to myself.

"Now calm down and can we lay off the word 'imperialist' for a while as it can be rather deceptive, afterall a nation which inhabits empty land is, technically, imperialistic, even though they haven't harmed anyone.

"Now, it would seem that for the time being the best we can get is a reduction in these weapons, as TFU sees their WMD is important to their nations defence. WMD are, by nature, a defencive weapon. A good example of this is the state of Mutually Assured Destruction currently in many nations around the Earth. They are made in the hope they will never be used, but they exist as a threat to those who would invade to warn them off.

"Iuthia personally dislikes WMD with a passion, we have none and instead depend on our defence systems to protect us. However TFU has many enemies and they are trying to reduce that number and make peace now.

"However, many of these enemies are looking for weakness in TFU and they feel that until peace can be assured their WMD are needed to keep others from agression.

"The clear problem here is that TFU's enemies want agression to halt. This can be acheived though treaties and simple pacts, with the help of Iuthia as well as TFU's enemies having embassies in TFU they can observe TFU's actions and make sure they are not planning to attack their nations...

"The treaties we sign today, as a middle option for everyone could be that TFU is to dismantle it's weapons over a long period of time, allowing them to gain trust of other nations now peaceful and for those nations to alternately gain trust of TFU.

"Non-aggression pacts all around I think, possibily with the clause that if one nation breaks such a pact all others are required to enforce the result of such a contact breach.

"This would mean that each nation is forced to have peace, lest they incur the wrath of all other nations. The issue here isn't the weapons, but the agression itself. Once we remove that we can work towards a more peaceful future."

OOC Edit: This was to TFU, not you Iuthia. I was typing this while you posted. :)

Strauss thought for a moment. He was just waiting for TFU to give him the right line, to unleash the mountains of evidence he had. "Unacceptable. Either all the Temporal weapons AND all the big anti-matter weapons are dismantled, or none at all.

As for my nation being imperialist, where is your proof? We have presented proof of your imperialist actions, but where is your proof of ours? The fact is that we have never been imperialist. We have no extra solar colonies, we have nothing that we did not rightfully buy from the government that owned it or build ourselves. You on the other hand have ill gotten colonies wrenched from other governments, as well as numerous other worlds you 'claimed.'

My story is straight. I have presented proof of your imperialist actions in the Adelai islands, the Skeelzanian colonies, and the Delta quadrant. Where is the proof of our imperialism?

For starters, up until fairly recently (About 400 years ago, ICly), our people were enslaved by a evil group of alien races. Races which you may have had some dealing with in the past. Be that as it may, our nation did not have any autonomy until we fought our way out of enslavement. We obviously couldn't have been imperialist at that time. Fast forward about ten years, to the Elf invasion. They tried to enslave us again, and we fought them off. In that case too we were defending ourselves. Fast foward about fifty years, to the first military action we took. It was a peacekeeping mission in the nation of Ansteorra. And their government ASKED our assistance, something that doesn't happen often with you.

Fast forward to the Neo-Mekantan war, the last actual war we participated in. This was a war of survival against an evil robotic nation that destroyed one of our cities with an orbital mass driver. Here too were we defending our nation, until we were forced to take the fight to the Neo-Mekantan and destroy the orbital mass driver they used upon us.

Now there is the Shivan war, a war against a race bent on the destruction of humanity, a war in which they attacked us first. We do not intend to conquer and annex parts of subspace, we merely aim to stop the Shivan attacks.

That is the abridged version of our history. It does not include posturing and alliance joining that did not lead to war. I challenge you to find imperialism in it. Every time we fight, we have been attacked first. Can you say the same I wonder?

Oh, and I'll stay in this confrence as long as I deem necessary. You have no sway with me. Perhaps later, I'll explain the real rationale behind why we want your temporal and large antimatter weapons banned. But for now, I am to weary to explain it. If anyone needs me, I'll likely be drooling on the table with my pillow."

Kayla Harmone chose that moment to ask a simple question in the same tone one may ask "I wonder...".

"Assuming TFU's people dismantle their WMD and then both your nation and their nation sign a Non-Agression Pact, would that be all you actually require to avoid conflixt with the Fedral Union? We'll go into details in a moment but I just want the basics for the moment."

Strauss was half asleep, but he replied "Unggg? No. We would require some limit on Federal...interference in others affairs." Strauss was very careful to avoid the word 'imperialism.'

He fell asleep soon after that.

"And I assume you to would limit youself in others affairs? You may want to be more clear because if it's the same as the suggestion put forward by Austar Union then I doubt anyone could agree." Ambassidor Harmone took care not to look offended by Ambassidor Strauss's lack of attention, though concidering the mess they had both been through she wasn't too anoyed, she couldn't blame the guy.

"However, we ourselves would like to see some form of agreement added to the package reguarding respect for national soverienity by the Fedral Union... seeing as you're own nation doesn't force itself into others problems according to your brief history lession I assume you wouldn't mind agreeing to the same treaty.

"To limit TFU's capability for diplomacy would be unacceptable, but to simply enforce a respect for other nations own rules regarding their own nation is something Iuthia would be interested in. Too many nations try to second guess other nations laws and culture.

"We can probably assume that such an agreement would limit military action to defence and assistance actions, assistance would, of course, need to be granted permission from the nation they are assisting... but details can be figured out later." She then bridged her fingers and smiles slighty before explaining herself.

"I simply ask so I can get a basic idea of what your nation needs from this... so far it isn't totally unreasonable when concidering the basics. The reason so many object is most probably the language you us.

"But personally Iuthia would be happy to see less nations with WMD and if others do not have WMD then we don't see the need for such weapons."

OOC Edit: This was to TFU, not you Iuthia. I was typing this while you posted. :)

Strauss thought for a moment. He was just waiting for TFU to give him the right line, to unleash the mountains of evidence he had. "Unacceptable. Either all the Temporal weapons AND all the big anti-matter weapons are dismantled, or none at all.

As for my nation being imperialist, where is your proof? We have presented proof of your imperialist actions, but where is your proof of ours? The fact is that we have never been imperialist. We have no extra solar colonies, we have nothing that we did not rightfully buy from the government that owned it or build ourselves. You on the other hand have ill gotten colonies wrenched from other governments, as well as numerous other worlds you 'claimed.'

My story is straight. I have presented proof of your imperialist actions in the Adelai islands, the Skeelzanian colonies, and the Delta quadrant. Where is the proof of our imperialism?

For starters, up until fairly recently (About 400 years ago, ICly), our people were enslaved by a evil group of alien races. Races which you may have had some dealing with in the past. Be that as it may, our nation did not have any autonomy until we fought our way out of enslavement. We obviously couldn't have been imperialist at that time. Fast forward about ten years, to the Elf invasion. They tried to enslave us again, and we fought them off. In that case too we were defending ourselves. Fast foward about fifty years, to the first military action we took. It was a peacekeeping mission in the nation of Ansteorra. And their government ASKED our assistance, something that doesn't happen often with you.

Fast forward to the Neo-Mekantan war, the last actual war we participated in. This was a war of survival against an evil robotic nation that destroyed one of our cities with an orbital mass driver. Here too were we defending our nation, until we were forced to take the fight to the Neo-Mekantan and destroy the orbital mass driver they used upon us.

Now there is the Shivan war, a war against a race bent on the destruction of humanity, a war in which they attacked us first. We do not intend to conquer and annex parts of subspace, we merely aim to stop the Shivan attacks.

That is the abridged version of our history. It does not include posturing and alliance joining that did not lead to war. I challenge you to find imperialism in it. Every time we fight, we have been attacked first. Can you say the same I wonder?

Oh, and I'll stay in this confrence as long as I deem necessary. You have no sway with me. Perhaps later, I'll explain the real rationale behind why we want your temporal and large antimatter weapons banned. But for now, I am to weary to explain it. If anyone needs me, I'll likely be drooling on the table with my pillow."

Rob replyed calmly "well it seems he dosient want to lisen so ill just leave... but i wont.. becuse im higer than that . it seems all CF dose is lie lie hmm i dont see how those acations are IMPrlist?!" then sarcasticly said " Ohh my god hes pease keeping in another nation WHAT AN IMPRLISTI!!!!!!" then said "im tired of Hereing CF's lies .. its time for the truth since when has the Fed union or allaince in its entier 800 year history become an imrplist ? (im talking about space time btw and the islands incident WAS OVER 900 YEARS AGO uhem) Im also wondering .... were and what evdince all i see is a bunch of lies... and stupidty! theres nothing here! just a bunch of lies ed a sytem weve never intervined when asked by the abused nation not to you see what your spweing is lies dispetion i dont belive it ... and your talking to a nation whos keped its allainces For over 800 YEARS! with nations such as Croulie .. im sick and tired of hereing this im also sick and tired of these god dmaned lies!!!!" he sat down agerly takeing a drink of tea

Rrowl C'mef leaned forward and a roar emmitted from his throat that would instill fear into the heart of even the most battle harden Hero (Kzinti term for warrior). His fur bristled as he stared at the 4 delegates arguing profusly. Fear was a good way to take ones mind off the topic at hand and anger which hopefully would be the case here aswell.

"your argueing is an insult to my ears..." he sat down slowly his clawed hands clutching the tale end and his ears were pressed flat against his head.

"now end this incessant arguing and get at the topic at hand"

Rob replyed calmly "well it seems he dosient want to lisen so ill just leave... but i wont.. becuse im higer than that . it seems all CF dose is lie lie hmm i dont see how those acations are IMPrlist?!" then sarcasticly said " Ohh my god hes pease keeping in another nation WHAT AN IMPRLISTI!!!!!!" then said "im tired of Hereing CF's lies .. its time for the truth since when has the Fed union or allaince in its entier 800 year history become an imrplist ? (im talking about space time btw and the islands incident WAS OVER 900 YEARS AGO uhem) Im also wondering .... were and what evdince all i see is a bunch of lies... and stupidty! theres nothing here! just a bunch of lies ed a sytem weve never intervined when asked by the abused nation not to you see what your spweing is lies dispetion i dont belive it ... and your talking to a nation whos keped its allainces For over 800 YEARS! with nations such as Croulie .. im sick and tired of hereing this im also sick and tired of these god dmaned lies!!!!" he sat down agerly takeing a drink of tea

Strauss awoke with a start. After taking a syringe out of a small statchel he carried around, he injected into himself. Instantly, strong caffine flooded his body. He looked at rob with a new, awakened fire in his eyes.

"Where is your evidence that I'm lying? I have told all assembled here of the three imperialist incidents I could think of off the top of my head. I vaguely remember several more.

As for Facehuggerian Imperialism, that was my point. It does not exist. Unlike well documented cases of Federal land snatching.

In the past eight hundred years, you've committed imperialist actions twice, off the top of my head of course. In the Gamma quadrant, stealing the Skeelzanian colonies and 'claiming' nearby systems. And in the Delta quadrant where you attempted to take another race's system. Species 1's If I remember correctly.

You never intervened when asked by the abused nation? But you did intervene when they did something you didn't like, like expelling their people ad nausum.

Central Facehuggeria does not take an active role in the affairs of other nations. Hence why we've only been in a handful of wars. We can count the number of wars we've been in on one hand. Can you do the same?

As for your 'keeping alliances for eight hundred years' point; What is it? That doesn't make you any less of an imperialist in my eyes. It just means that you are either faithful, or you realize that without these allies, you'll be crushed by the various anti-imperialist nations in existance.

Oh, and It is a moot point if you're sick of this. I'm sure it is painful to listen to this. The truth always is."

Rrowl C'mef leaned forward and a roar emmitted from his throat that would instill fear into the heart of even the most battle harden Hero (Kzinti term for warrior). His fur bristled as he stared at the 4 delegates arguing profusly. Fear was a good way to take ones mind off the topic at hand and anger which hopefully would be the case here aswell.

"your argueing is an insult to my ears..." he sat down slowly his clawed hands clutching the tale end and his ears were pressed flat against his head.

"now end this incessant arguing and get at the topic at hand"
Robert mearly looked over and raised an eyebrow "i Dont see why CF has to spread lies and roumers.... its obvious he doseint want to try "

Strauss awoke with a start. After taking a syringe out of a small statchel he carried around, he injected into himself. Instantly, strong caffine flooded his body. He looked at rob with a new, awakened fire in his eyes.

"Where is your evidence that I'm lying? I have told all assembled here of the three imperialist incidents I could think of off the top of my head. I vaguely remember several more.

As for Facehuggerian Imperialism, that was my point. It does not exist. Unlike well documented cases of Federal land snatching.

In the past eight hundred years, you've committed imperialist actions twice, off the top of my head of course. In the Gamma quadrant, stealing the Skeelzanian colonies and 'claiming' nearby systems. And in the Delta quadrant where you attempted to take another race's system. Species 1's If I remember correctly.

You never intervened when asked by the abused nation? But you did intervene when they did something you didn't like, like expelling their people ad nausum.

Central Facehuggeria does not take an active role in the affairs of other nations. Hence why we've only been in a handful of wars. We can count the number of wars we've been in on one hand. Can you do the same?

As for your 'keeping alliances for eight hundred years' point; What is it? That doesn't make you any less of an imperialist in my eyes. It just means that you are either faithful, or you realize that without these allies, you'll be crushed by the various anti-imperialist nations in existance.

Oh, and It is a moot point if you're sick of this. I'm sure it is painful to listen to this. The truth always is."

Robert just sinkerd " you have so much to learn about history speachies 1 attacked MY convoy andf attempted to assmlaite my people it was a deadly first contact for them we were just peably conlinzieing A sytem and you have abouslity no respect for this confrance and the people in it.... i suggest you start acating like an adult! and thsoe 3 imrplist "acations" were for the safty of the fed union and its people"

"I am acting like an adult. I am logically presenting imperialist actions that you have taken in the past.

Oh, and Species 1 only attacked you because you had strayed into their territory. So I suppose your imperialist actions were for the safety of your people then? Just like Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia for living space was for the safety of his people? Or the Invasion of Poland? We may be a Nazi state, but we look down on imperialism."

Just then, Strauss' watch beeped. His superiors were trying to contact him, and it must have been important, otherwise they wouldn't have tried to contact him in the middle of the summit. He turned towards the Iuthian delegate and asked "Is there some place where I can retire for a time to communicate with my government? They are trying to contact me."

James shrugged.

"Sure, we could probably all do with a break anyways. However when we return I would like for the 'imperialist' arguement to end at least until a later point, for now I feel Ambassidor Kayla Harmone was getting somewhere."

James then continued to point out each door, there were maybe four doors around the room which led to foyer like areas which in turn led to each section and the various facilities (such as bathrooms).

"Each faction has it's own exit behind them so we don't have arguement outside of the conference as well, lets have a break for say... half an hour now?"

As each delegate made their way our, James deGritz joined Ambassidor Hannity for a quick chat...

Vice Premier Joseph Van Arsden had been silent the entire time, only watching as the two sides constantly bickered. Several times he put his face in his hands, several others he rolled his eyes, and more often than not he gripped the table to avoid an outburst of irritation. He was simply here to observe, but he would talk after the break was over. He rose out of his seat and stretched, walking over to Ambassador Harmone. His grace was well, and Van Arsden looked quite professional in his navy blue suit, complimented by a bright blue tie and a silver watch. He neared the ambassador, and smiled pleasantly, introducing himself. "Hi, I don't believe we've met before. Joseph Van Arsden, Vice Premier of the URHP," he said kindly as he extended a hand.

Ambassador Hannity has had enough! Her aide saw what was coming and tried to restrain her from getting up but was shrugged off.

"BOTH SIDES STOP YOUR ARGUING THIS INSTANT! This isn't getting us anywhere. Central, YOU ARE acting like a child that can't have his way. You will negotiate a PROPER treaty and you WILL abide by it. TFU, your arguements are starting to go circular. I believe that you have been wronged as well as wronged other nations. The treaty I have here is plausible to all sides. We can negotiate much of this, however, the Non-Agression pacts as well as limiting WMD Research and Weapons are NOT NEGOTIABLE! BOTH SIDES better start acting like Adults. I'm the YOUNGEST one here and hearing you guys argue reminds me of my five yo brother arguing with my mom. Its embarrassing. STOP NOW! Let us get back and NEGOTIATE this thing."

He neared the ambassador, and smiled pleasantly, introducing himself. "Hi, I don't believe we've met before. Joseph Van Arsden, Vice Premier of the URHP," he said kindly as he extended a hand.

Kayla returned a professional smile and accepted the hand shake.

"Ambassidor Kayla Harmone of the Iuthian Diplomatic Corps, Vice Premier Arsden. Pleased to meet you." She replied.

Ambassador Hannity had enough, even her aide saw what was coming and tried to restrain her from getting up but was shrugged off.

"BOTH SIDES STOP YOUR ARGUING THIS INSTANT!" She yelled as everyone was preparing to leave, however, before she could continue James deGritz, interupted, rather quickly grabing her arm and pulling her aside.

"Ambassidor Hannity, a word if you may in the foyer..."


OOC: You can choose to keep shouting if you want Formal Dances, but bare in mind that this is something the overseer of the conference is asking you and that shouting the rest will probably not go down well with anyone.

Ambassador Hannity had enough, even her aide saw what was coming and tried to restrain her from getting up but was shrugged off.

"BOTH SIDES STOP YOUR ARGUING THIS INSTANT!" She yelled as everyone was preparing to leave, however, before she could continue James deGritz, interupted, rather quickly grabing her arm and pulling her aside.

"Ambassidor Hannity, a word if you may in the foyer..."


OOC: You can choose to keep shouting if you want Formal Dances, but bare in mind that this is something the overseer of the conference is asking you and that shouting the rest will probably not go down well with anyone.

She glanced at the ambassador and she could see that her aide knew what was coming. After a brief second, she nodded and went with the ambassador.

OOC: James deGritz isn't an Ambassidor, he's the leader of Iuthia and the host of this conference. Next time I'll be carful not to repeat your words, it can be confusing.

As everyone slowly made their way out to their section foyers, James and Melissa made their way to the Neutral foyer and made a point of being out of ear shot from others who were taking a break in the dinning areas of the Neutal section.

James remained calm looking throughout, though on the inside he was just as anoyed as everyone else.

"Look, Ambassidor Hannity, I know you mean well but it would seem that we have a misunderstanding as to the meaning of 'observer'. As a neutral third party in this conference you are hear to observe the proceeding so that your nation can act as a witness to the events within these talks.

"However, as an observer you are not in control of this conference, it's one thing to tell people to calm down, it's a comlpete other to order people. Tensions are expected to be high as both sides hate one another, they are expected to be unreasonable in thier demands... however it is unproductive and rather dangous to try and exert authority over them.

"You're nation, as well as many others, is hear to watch and report on whether the talks were fair so that if one nation claims something has been said, when it hasn't you can act as a witness. You can't force peace on these two, hell, I can't force peace between these two.

"What is needed here is calm. My own Ambassidor is working towards getting the basic definition of what one faction needs so she can, as a neutral, present it to the other faction as a reasonable compromise. She hasn't created anything additional, she's just persenting the same demands with better language. The problems here are communication and I'm afraid all this shouting is damaging all chances of making this work.

"Now I would suggest you calm yourself down, bickering will only continue so long as they have something to bicker about... someone shouting at them is often reason enough especially if that person has little power over them."

James sighed... he hated this.

"I'm sorry I had to ask you this, relations haven't been damaged between our nations, but if you keep pushing you may damage relations with other nations who don't like your tone."

The Blond avatar stood and for the first time spoke - her voice was silky and somhow unerving. "The hive is considering all that has been brought to view today and will suggest a suitable peace agreement for both side of this equation. But for now let us part and relax."
She turned to James, "Might we have a word with you please."
The blond avatar walked out the remaining two positioned themselfs either side of James to escourt him out of the chambers.

Tears started to well up in her eyes. "I'm sorry sir but all of this bickering just gets on my nerves and then accusation upon accusation is enough to drive someone mad. I"m sorry if my temper got in the way. I wasn't trying to force peace on anyone. I just wanted to present something from a neutral stance that could benefit both sides." Tears start to stream down. "I'm sorry sir. It won't happen again."

Joseph began to speak, but was cut off by some mad woman going nuts over the whole issue. He began to wish that he had brought a body guard, now that it appeared some delegates were highly unstable. He turned back to Ambassador Harmone. "Talk about psychotic," he muttered, glancing back at the woman. He turned his eyes back to Kayla. "Anyway, I was wanting to discuss the issue of us drawing up some proposals to achieve a peaceful resolution..I know it sounds hard, especially with this group, but I think we could do it." He then added offhandedly, "Perhaps tonight over dinner?"

OOC: No, he's not asking her out. The Vice Premier is gay. :-P

Rob Stood up and dusted him self off then said "well this has been fun..."... he breathed in then said "are there any bars around here were a guy can relax ?"

Formal Dances: James sighed, Melissa's youthful tears made him feel sorry for having to do this, but having led a nation through many a crisis he had learnt not to let such emotions get in the way of an important message.

"Now now, Melissa." He said in a fatherly fashion. For the moment he dropped formal names and went striaght to a first name basis. "We're all tired of Ambassidor Struass and President Roberts arguing, but we can't afford to encourage more arguing... it's my job to reduce the pointless arguing and bring this conference back to the point, my people are working on that now."

James reached into his pocket and pulled out a hanky (cloth).

"Here, I would suggest you clean yourself up before we go back into the conference. We know you mean well but it has to be said, we'll acheive more through calm words then we can ever acheive through shouting."


Hive Fleet Imodius: [OOC - Pay attention, James is already outside of the chamber and he's speaking, privately I might add, to Ambassidor Hannity, your two Avatar's (please describe them next time) are waiting to talk to James after he's finished talking to Melissa.]

James finished his conversation with the young ambassidor an turned to the two Avatars.

"Can I help you?" He inquired politely.

"Might we have a word with you please." Said the blond avatar.

"Sure." James signalled some security staff to make sure he was being watched, he wasn't too keen with both avatars on either side of him.


Lietuveska: [OOC - Note that Melissa didn't get to say all of her last sentance, only the first part.]

"Vice Premier Arsden, you have to understand she means well, however I'm sure that Lord General deGritz will warn her to change her tone." She replied to his comment, remaining as professional as possible. Joseph then continued...

"Anyway, I was wanting to discuss the issue of us drawing up some proposals to achieve a peaceful resolution..I know it sounds hard, especially with this group, but I think we could do it." He then added offhandedly, "Perhaps tonight over dinner?""

Kayla raised her hand to her neck in a mock manner of shock before continuing. "Assuming things don't get any better I think would have to agree, but we'll wait and see now won't we. This is only a break but I'm sure everyone may agree to calling it a day."

James shrugged.

"Sure, we could probably all do with a break anyways. However when we return I would like for the 'imperialist' arguement to end at least until a later point, for now I feel Ambassidor Kayla Harmone was getting somewhere."

James then continued to point out each door, there were maybe four doors around the room which led to foyer like areas which in turn led to each section and the various facilities (such as bathrooms).

"Each faction has it's own exit behind them so we don't have arguement outside of the conference as well, lets have a break for say... half an hour now?"

As each delegate made their way our, James deGritz joined Ambassidor Hannity for a quick chat...

Strauss bowed to James and retired to a small communications cubicle nearby. He opened a direct site-site comms channel to his transport, which then relayed the transmission to CF high command. "This is Strauss. I understand you tried to contact me?"

On the other side of the screen was Strauss' immediate superior, Hiram Leeves. Hiram began to speak when he frowned and stepped aside. Another figure, hooded and cloaked stepped in front of the transmitter. Strauss recognized it immediately. It was Furher Gustav, leader of the Nazi Utopia.

Gustav began to speak in a melodius tone that implied power mated with pure evil. "Strauss...There has been an altercation. Prepare to recive direct PTP connection. Do you have a data disk or crystal on hand?"

Strauss rummaged around through his pocket and found a small jade colored datacrystal. He placed it in a receptacle indented in the comms array. "Yes, Mein Furher. You may begin with the transmission."

A small bar appeared on top of the display. It was moving frightfully fast, and was counting up. 100 Exabytes out of 10,000 Eb recieved. It would not be long now. What's more, it was a huge file. Truely huge. Only three CF files were that big: Interactive Lewdographic Simulations, Videogames such as Quack IV and Doomed III, and high detail battle ROMs. The latter being used as debriefing material in the event of a conflict.

Suddenly, the download was complete, ten thousand exabytes burned into that small crystal. Strauss removed it from the recepticle and said "What is it, Mein Furher?"

Gustav merely replied "Betrayal. Look at it for yourself."

At this comment, Strauss hurredly closed the communication and returned to his room. He had brought a portable datacrystal/disk player in the event he got bored. Walking quickly back to his room, he discovered it untouched, with the exception of the plant and bug debacle of the previous night. His player was still in his Tgrav-luggage, just where he had left it. After digging through mounds of clothes, candy bars, and Playboy magazines, Strauss found what he was seeking.

With a trembling hand, he stuck the crystal in the player. It made a whirring sound while it read the data. "What could be so important that the Furher himself would contact me?" Strauss thought to himself. The Furher never contacted anyone. He always communicated through intermedieries. Except for today...

The whirring of the player stopped as it finished compiling the data. A holographic projection filled the room. It didn't seem particularly abnormal, just the guncamera of a CF Dreadnought. What he saw next brought his eyes wide and made his blood run cold...

Formal Dances: James sighed, Melissa's youthful tears made him feel sorry for having to do this, but having led a nation through many a crisis he had learnt not to let such emotions get in the way of an important message.

"Now now, Melissa." He said in a fatherly fashion. For the moment he dropped formal names and went striaght to a first name basis. "We're all tired of Ambassidor Struass and President Roberts arguing, but we can't afford to encourage more arguing... it's my job to reduce the pointless arguing and bring this conference back to the point, my people are working on that now."

James reached into his pocket and pulled out a hanky (cloth).

"Here, I would suggest you clean yourself up before we go back into the conference. We know you mean well but it has to be said, we'll acheive more through calm words then we can ever acheive through shouting."

She takes the hanky (I know) and dabs her eyes as she nods sullenly. She moves off towards her quarters with her aide next to her. When they arrived, Ambassador Hannity entered her quarters with her upset aide near her.

"You nearly blew it Melissa. An Ambassador doesn't act the way you acted. You have to control your outbursts if you expect to go anywhere in diplomacy."

"I know" she murmered. "This is bringing up memories of our past Greg."

"I know it is, but we have to get past that so we can help with these people. They need our help. When we reconviene, be silent and listen to both sides. Don't open your trap again, or I'll relieve you of your duties. And yes, I can do that."

She nods sullenly! She goes to her bedroom and plops onto the bed and starts to cry.

Dr. Bronton resided in his private chambers. Looking into the mirror, he smiled. He held so much power on his own. He could....even not represent his national views at this conference, but his own.

He held so much power at this conference, that he could start an intergallactic war should he want to. Opening his canister, he eyed his pills carefully. On the side, the instructions read, "Take three daily..."

Smiling to himself, he tossed them aside into the wastebasket. With one final look into the mirror, he turned, with new intentions on his mind.

Walking over to the intercom, he dialed the number for the delegate from Central Facehuggeria, Strauss.

When the line picked up, the Dr. only said one thing; "Meet me in my quarters, sharp..."

He was interested in what he could achieve personally, and to really test how much power he had at the conference...

OOC: Im just trying to add some interest to the conference here :)

Strauss picked up the reciever with a weak and trembling hand. He was pale and almost corpse like, after watching that recording, so shocking was it to him. Still, he went to meet with the Austarian delegate. He needed something, anything to take his mind off of what had just happened. What would happen when he returned to the confrence...

Strauss made his way to the Austarian quarters and knocked on the door.

Bump.

Bump.
Oh for god's sake! Bump again!

Oh for god's sake! Bump again!

OOC: Meh, it's the weekend and everyone is resting, Austar Union has a habit for posting only when he has time (as he has an active life) not to mention he's in Austrialia... so I'd suggest you just wait.

OOC: Meh, it's the weekend and everyone is resting, Austar Union has a habit for posting only when he has time (as he has an active life) not to mention he's in Austrialia... so I'd suggest you just wait.

I see. Thank you for telling me. Eh, it'll just give me more time to prepare my uberpost. :D

I see. Thank you for telling me. Eh, it'll just give me more time to prepare my uberpost. :D

That worries me to no end!

That worries me to no end!
I know, doesn't it? Just a forewarning: It's going to be really, really long. And involve a fair bit of subterfuge.

I know, doesn't it? Just a forewarning: It's going to be really, really long. And involve a fair bit of subterfuge.

You really have no real intentions of discussing peace do you? That's sad, after talking to TFU, he's a pretty nice guy.

You really have no real intentions of discussing peace do you? That's sad, after talking to TFU, he's a pretty nice guy.

Not really. As I said, this was an OOC courtesy. I didn't actually expect TFU to do what would be necessary to save himself from Indra's wrath.

Not really. As I said, this was an OOC courtesy. I didn't actually expect TFU to do what would be necessary to save himself from Indra's wrath.

He's willing to compromise but everything I've seen is that you don't want too! Again very sad your just going through the motions here and you have ruled out compromises that would benefit everyone. No wonder my brother, who monitors this thread, stopped talking in it for now. He saw the hand writing on the wall. Frankly CF, your worse that Yassar Arafat of the Palestinian Authority.

He's willing to compromise but everything I've seen is that you don't want too! Again very sad your just going through the motions here and you have ruled out compromises that would benefit everyone. No wonder my brother, who monitors this thread, stopped talking in it for now. He saw the hand writing on the wall. Frankly CF, your worse that Yassar Arafat of the Palestinian Authority.

According to Indra, TFU's temporal tech must go. There can be no compromise on that. And since Indra is busy with RL stuff, I have to help present his views. On that, there can be no compromise. You noticed how I was willing to pretty much give in on everything else except the WMDs?

According to Indra, TFU's temporal tech must go. There can be no compromise on that. And since Indra is busy with RL stuff, I have to help present his views. On that, there can be no compromise. You noticed how I was willing to pretty much give in on everything else except the WMDs?

Then why isn't Indra here then? Compromise has got to be reached! That is the only sure way to end this peacefully. Without that then what is the point of these talks?

OOC: Now now guys, if you are going to argue OOC can you please take it to this thread.

Orginal Thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338098)

I want this thread to remain IC. Meanwhile I feel I should note that IC lying and the such is, afterall, IC.

Oh, and the thread would move against until Austar Union has his conversation with CF... though I may call it a night (IC) and get my diplomats to talk to those who are meant to be talking to them.

OOC: Now now guys, if you are going to argue OOC can you please take it to this thread.

Orginal Thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338098)

I want this thread to remain IC.

Finally got here I see! Lets get this going again! But alas its almost my bedtime! LOL!

Strauss picked up the reciever with a weak and trembling hand. He was pale and almost corpse like, after watching that recording, so shocking was it to him. Still, he went to meet with the Austarian delegate. He needed something, anything to take his mind off of what had just happened. What would happen when he returned to the confrence...

Strauss made his way to the Austarian quarters and knocked on the door.

OOC: Sorry for taking so long. Iuthia is right to say that I only post when I have time :)

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Dr. Bronton was on his bed, reading the documents when he heard a loud knock at the door. Shuffling the papers quickly, and hiding it underneath his bed, he stood to his feet, and walked over toward the door. Opening it just slightly, he recognised the man at the door, and let him in.

"Im honored that we could meet sir, please, come in." said Dr. Bronton.

Hosting Strauss into his quarters, the Dr. walked over to his cabinet, "What can I get you to drink?"

OOC: I know you just said that this thread is to remain IC, but I just wanna inform everyone that I am back from vacation.

"My apologies for entering the meeting late...it seems I overslept."

The Shogun chose a seat, while blushing moderately. He's never been late to something of this importance...

In her quarters, she walks into the bathroom and freshens up. As she walks into the small kitchen/dining area she finds a cup of coffee. As she sips it and reviews her notes from the conference thus far, she shakes her head.

"Greg, I've been thinking. Central Facehuggeria has no intentions of peace. Judging by what they are saying and that they just won't negotiate helps establish that fact."

"I know Mel! Well this is what happens at times. One side sometimes just doesn't like to talk and reach a suitable agreement."

"But why all the hatred? This is to help both sides but everything I'm seeing reminds me of Surrender talks but that one side won't surrender. I can only conclude that there will be a war."

"Lets not jump to conclusions yet Melissa. There can still be a suitable peace but we just have to find it. That isn't going to be easy. There really isn't nothing you and I can do except to make sure that the deal is legitament and beneficial to all parties. That I think we can accomplish!"

She just nodded her head at this and sipped her coffee waiting for the call to reconviene for the conference.

Dr. Bronton poured himself a glass of brandy on the rocks, and poured Strauss his drink. Turning, he walked over to Strauss and handed him his drink.

Walking back to his desk, Dr. Bronton opened a drawer, revealing a small stack of documents. Pulling one out, he sat it on the desk. Notably, on the front cover of the document read, Top Secret in big red letters. Sipping his glass of brandy, Dr. Bronton opened the documents, motioning for Strauss to read;

"This information I am presenting to you is of the highest confidence Mr. Strauss. I can assure you, should it get out, I will promise your assasination."

Opening the document to the first page, Dr. Bronton introduced himself;

"You will know from this conference that my name is Dr. Peter Bronton, and that I am representing the Republic of Austar Union in these talks. I want to advise you that the name is in fact an alias, and that I am a sleeper agent of the ISMA.* My real name is Dr. Carlos Erindolf."

Strauss looked slightly shocked, so this was the infamous Carlos Erindolf of the ISMA. Dr. Erindolf/Bronton continued;

"See, I have been hired in preparation of these talks. The ISMA are strong haters of the Fedral Race, and are blood-thirsty for their destruction. Of course, this isnt the final reason why we are here. The real reason is that several large corporations have hired us, several corporations that would....benefit from the destruction of the Fedral Race.

See Strauss, we have a common goal. Both of us want the destruction of the Fedral Race assured, neither of us want peace with the plauge that lives in our universe. I can assure you of an alliance with the ISMA should we choose to work together on our endeavours..."

OOC: Im just gonna keep RPing CF, just because the minor details arent that important, and its good to keep it moving along...

*ISMA: Basically, the ISMA stands for Intergalactic Spencertopian Mercinary Army. It is a mercinary private organisation, illegal which practises things such as piracy, terrorist operations, and even contract operations. Dr. Carlos Erindolf is one famous agent from the organisation, and has a price of several million on his head, sought after many people from around the universe.

Basically what is happening, is that the ISMA has been contracted to assure the destruction of the Fedral Race. There are several contracting companies who would benefit from this. Of course, please dont fool yourself that the ISMA is an illegal Austar Union organisation. It is in fact an organisation based in Spencertopia (OOCly My Future-Tech Puppet), which the Spencertopian leaders secretly have links to. The ISMA is in no way affiltilated with the government of the Austar Union, merely having maybe a few of their agents residing there as sleeper agents. Hope all this makes sense... :S

In the meantime... Back at the Anatoba Space Center...

John Richards was a cleaner at the space center. In a dead-end job, he hated where he worked, and everything he did there. For fifteen years, he had worked there, and the most that had ever happened was a few general security calls, but nothing serious...

Gathering his mop, he walked into one of the closets. Opening it with his key, he reached inside and turned on the light. Pulling in his tray behind him, John began to stack away all his cleaning gear.

Mumbling to himself about his supervisor, he pulled off his gloves, and threw them into the small wastebasket that sat in the corner. Pausing, he turned around to what sounded like a muffled noise behind him.

With shock, John noticed a man, gagged and bound in the corner.

Rushing over, John pulled off the man's gag, and the man gasped for air;

"You must contact security!", said the man, fear in his eyes.

John made a quick call over the radio.

The man continued, "My name is Dr. Peter Bronton. I was on my way into the center when some men grabbed me from behind, and shoved me into here. Everything went black, but just before it did, I heard something about a plan to damage the Fedral Union peace process. I think....somebody might be there claiming to be me... I think they may be working with some group to destroy the process..."

OOC: For clarification, this is the REAL Dr. Peter Bronton who was meant to attend the talks, but when he was preparing to leave, he had been kidnapped, and he was replaced by Dr. Carlos Erindolf, posing as Bronton... Hope you can still understand :S

Same Time
Iuthian Space Station - Bronton (Erindolf) Quarters

Dr. Erindolf continued, unaware of the events that were unfolding back on Earth;

"See sir, imagine... You can already see that Robert of the Fedral Union is unwilling to comprimise. Now, hypothetically speaking, would it not be reasonable to think that if a multi-national force showed up in Fedral Space, that it would put pressure on Robert to accept? I mean, it would be simple. He would only conceed to any type of treaty you want, if his very security was threatened.

Course, I dont reccomend showing your fleets up to this space, it would be unwise, but if you were to threaten Fedral Space with all out war, Robert would be forced to accept your terms.

With the multi-national backing also, there isnt really much the world can do. It may look a bit bad, but hey, what is anyone gonna do if you have so much support. Im sure you know how much support you have throughout the universe. Most species seem to be staunch Fedral enemies..."

Smiling, Dr. Erindolf was hoping that Stauss would consider the idea.

"Of course, you would also have the support from the fleets of the ISMA. And im sure we could arrange some form of contract agreement giving you a share of our final profits.

Its simple, you get the Fedral Union out of existance or backed down, we gain the advantages of this also, we get our contract furfilled and payment from the corporations hiring us, and you get a percentage of that payment. We all gain, well, everyone but the Fedral Union..."

Back in the Austar Union...

The group of men had gathered in an emergency meeting to discuss what to do about the fact that an imposter had been representing the Austar Union at the talks. The very idea would be damaging, not to mention exactly what the person's intentions would be.

David, one of the mean finally spoke up, "Well, I think the first thing we ought to do is to contact the Iuthian Security teams. The last thing we want is for this person to actually get anything achieved. God, how damaging would it be if anything came of it..."

Most of the men agreed. Standing up, Liam Mckenzy spoke up, "I'll get a transmission off to the Iuthians right away. In the meantime, somebody better start thinking of a cover-story... This will be damaging, but hopefully, they will understand that this is basically out of our control."

Walking out of the room, he drafted a quick transmission to the Iuthians;

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<Encrypted Transmission>
To: Iuthian Security Personell
From: Austarian Diplomatic Center
Subject: SECURITY WARNING - EMERGENCY PROCEDURE NEEDED

Please be advised of a security warning. The delegate from the Austar Union, Dr. Peter Bronton is in fact an imposter of the REAL intended delegate. Iuthian Security Personell have full permission to arrest the man who is posing as Dr. Bronton. Please be advised, this man may be dangerous to both the peace process, and to all assets included.

This is not a drill, this is a security precaution which we advise to be taken. More communication will follow afterwards, to describe the exact situation to the Iuthians, so that appropriate measures may be taken.
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OOC: I O U 1 Post

I'll post later, it's 8am here and I've got no sleep behind me so I'll do some later. You would have had some sleep anyways by the sound of it so no worries.

Same Time
Iuthian Space Station - Bronton (Erindolf) Quarters

Dr. Erindolf continued, unaware of the events that were unfolding back on Earth;

"See sir, imagine... You can already see that Robert of the Fedral Union is unwilling to comprimise. Now, hypothetically speaking, would it not be reasonable to think that if a multi-national force showed up in Fedral Space, that it would put pressure on Robert to accept? I mean, it would be simple. He would only conceed to any type of treaty you want, if his very security was threatened.

Course, I dont reccomend showing your fleets up to this space, it would be unwise, but if you were to threaten Fedral Space with all out war, Robert would be forced to accept your terms.

With the multi-national backing also, there isnt really much the world can do. It may look a bit bad, but hey, what is anyone gonna do if you have so much support. Im sure you know how much support you have throughout the universe. Most species seem to be staunch Fedral enemies..."

Smiling, Dr. Erindolf was hoping that Stauss would consider the idea.

"Of course, you would also have the support from the fleets of the ISMA. And im sure we could arrange some form of contract agreement giving you a share of our final profits.

Its simple, you get the Fedral Union out of existance or backed down, we gain the advantages of this also, we get our contract furfilled and payment from the corporations hiring us, and you get a percentage of that payment. We all gain, well, everyone but the Fedral Union..."

Strauss smilied as the cogs in his brain began turning. Here was an oppertunity to get his revenge. A multi-national coalition would be highly beneficial. Yes...

"I accept your terms. War would have come anyway after this heinous attack. It would be more beneficial to fight it with allies on our side."

ooc> There is no need for guards to watch over james the hive is one of his closest allies.

ic> The two avatars (As described earlier when they actually arrived at the station) walked james to the allies quaters picking up the TFU rep on the way while grabbing a hot dog from a stall that they walked past for the greedy man the blond avatar leading the group the other two walking with arms inter locked with the two men - they where happy about this as the avatars looked better than a glammer model - after all the hive is perfection.

James simply awaited for the avatars to start their conversation, seeing as they wanted to speak to him.

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Meanwhile, at the hub of the space station the John Falweny, the head of security, recieved a troubling communication reguarding the Austarian delegate. Protocol required that the man be taken in immediately with full precautions taken and a small combat team. However, he was currently with the Central Facehuggerian Delegate, something which could cause John to lose his job over if he doesn't handle it correctly as delegate could be taken hostage or injured in the arrest. John also suspected that he wouldn't be happy with security officials barging in.

So John did the only thing he could do, call a runner to ask for the Lord General's advice on the matter.

Strauss smilied as the cogs in his brain began turning. Here was an oppertunity to get his revenge. A multi-national coalition would be highly beneficial. Yes...

"I accept your terms. War would have come anyway after this heinous attack. It would be more beneficial to fight it with allies on our side."

Dr. Erindolf smiled, "Very well, its seems that we both agree on the issue. I assure you sir, the ISMA is a powerful group. We can assure our allegance to Central Facehuggeria should everything go as we plan."

Continuing, Dr. Erindolf grew confident, "Of course now, its is your turn for action. I suggest you get on the Comm for your Central Fleet command, and organise one of the largest fleet manoevers in history. If you truly want the Fedral's to back down, you will want to make a statement. Of course, at the same time, I trust that your leaders are able to make contact with your allies to also join you in your endeavours. You will be aware of many Anti-Fedral nations, and im sure many will jump at the chance...

Remember, we have a contract, so if you dont furfill your end of the bargain, it will be on your head."

He smiled at Strauss confidently, unknowing that security teams were preparing to arrest him.

Strauss smilied to Doctor Erindolf and quickly left the room. He returned to his own room and opened a direct communication to his diplomatic office. After informing his superiors of the...situation, he left his room and began searching for a good meal. He would soon have retribution for his loss, but first he needed a good steak.

After talking with her aide, she left her quarters and started to roam the station. She is amazed at how well laid out it is. She headed for the Central Section for some food and drink and to think about what comes next.

Dr. Erindolf was alone in his room. With his mission now mostly complete, he took off his shoes, and decided to rest.

[Not really much I can do until Iuthia decides to arrest him]

Bumpity bump bump Bumpity bump bump over the pot holes we go!

(Bumps are not required, I haven't lost the thread, I just wanted a rest to do some things and let some people who I'm meant to be talking to to actually post... I'll most this on in a bit)

**Update**

Due to the fact that my friend has given me a nasty case of the flu I'm currently coughing up a bit of flem and my temperature has risen, which isn't good concidering it's been humid resently too... so I'm not entirely with it and I'd rather wait until the room stops spinning before I post...

If I don't wait I'll piss AU off with a poor post resulting in the capture of his guy, something along the lines of "we enter room, we point guns at him, we catch him" isn't going to cut it.

I'll be back in a day or so.

OOC: Sorry for my long absence but alas, my personal life comes before NS! I should've had my sis post but she doesn't know how to RP with my nation. LOL and I prefer not to have relations damaged.

IC:

In their quarters, He and erica go over what has transpired so far.

"This isn't going well Erica. CF and Auster Union have presented their proposals and were rejected immediately. I don't blame them. I would reject those too. I do sense something from Auster Union but I can't seem to pinpoint it (remember, he is a jedi)! CF has no use to negotiate. They have never negotiated before and they are very sly. Good thing we can see somewhat through that."

"Darlin' you need to be careful here. We have done some good here. We managed to keep this from spinning out of control."

"That Ambassador Hannity sure has a fire lit under her and is probably why both sides haven't tried to kill eachother. I hope she'll be ok. I sense massive pain in her."

"Probably has to deal with something in her past and I wouldn't recommend searching for the answers."

"That brings us to TFU! I know he has a proposal that would be acceptable but CF and Auster Union have no use for them. Out of four proposals, two are acceptable, and One is not. We have to get those two sides to agree on a proposal that is acceptable to all."

"But how?"

"That is a good question."

He thought about it as he sips his coffee and goes back over the reports.

After roaming around the commercial area of the station for a while (and not finding a good steak joint), Strauss settled into a small bar. He really needed a drink.

He sat down at the bar and said, with a tired and emotionally distraught voice "Bartender, give me the strongest drink you've got. I...I need to forget what just happened. In fact, give me ten of the strongest drink you've got."

The Bartender looked at Strauss oddly for a moment, but then furnished ten small crystal blue shotglasses. Each was filled with the most potent drink the in the bar.

Strauss hurriedly gulped them down, trying to deaden his nerves. He didn't want to remember what just happened, he didn't want to remember that she was no more. The Federal 'attack' had seen to it that he would.

Bump?

A quick message was sent across to James deGritz asking for permission to apprehend Strauss, the terrorist who had taken the place of the real Austar Union representative. However the message was clear, now that Central Command knew he was alone in his own quarters it was just a matter of picking him up for questioning.

Of course, this man was described as being dangerous and the Iuthian Security didn't want to take any chances in his arrest. As such they prepared a team of Black Vipers to raid his quarters, equipped with shotguns and carapace armour. The idea was simple, Gauss Weapons couldn't really be used in the station, many of the guards had them for show and actually carried pistols with the Guass Rifle as an emgerancy weapon, but the automatic shotgun should be safe enough as the pellets wouldn't be able to break the pressurised hull.

The team quickly tooled up, and checked their communication equipment. With about four men per team and two teams for the operation, one raiding and the other acting as backup should it go horribly wrong, though that wasn't an option. They knew what the man had on him so it was planned completely by the numbers, a standard proceedure almost.

They made a point of walking through the section to their location, many of the delegates were either having drinks or in their quarters, the area was clear and there shouldn't be any issues.

The first team approached the enterance to Strauss's quarters and prepared to move into the room. Normally the team would flash the room on Earth, but things were different here and they didn't really have the option in anycase.

The closest man inserted the master keycard and with speed everyone piled into the main room brandishing Automatic shotguns.

"Get down on the floor!" The team leader shouted.

OOC: LOL Iuthia. I think you have the wrong room! :rolleyes: The Strauss quarters would be in fact empty, considering the fact that Strauss is at the bar, and Erindolf is in his own quarters.

...

My intention is to have him try to get out through the emergency escape hatches. Is there some way he can get through to there?

IC:

Dr. Erindolf was lying peacefully when he heard a disturbing noise from down the hall. It sounded like muffled shouting, which made Erindolf only slightly uneasy. Since he was not in fact the real delegate, he was aware that security may be on the prowl.

Sneaking toward the door of his quarters, he opened the door just slightly, and peeked out around the corner. To his shock, a team of Iuthian security personnel were outside the Strauss quarters.

Quickly, he ducked back inside his quarters, closing the door quietly. His eyes darted around the room. It seemed as if someone had alerted security. But luckily for him, it had been a bungle, the director making a mistake, sending the team to the wrong room.

Thinking hard, Erindolf thought of what to do. It was only a matter of time before the security team on the station would realise their mistake.

Realising that any desision would be better than none, he peeked back out the door. It seemed as if the security team was a little pre-occupied, trying to figure out what was happening.

Using this as a opportunity to escape, Erindolf took advantage of the fact that the security team was distracted for the moment, and calmly left the room, and walked briskly down the hall toward the main cafeteria.

OOC: Lol. :P If you're looking for Strauss, he's in a bar getting drunk. :P

IC: Strauss asked the bartender for another couple of shots. It wasn't good enough. He still felt despair. War was inevitable to him, the Federal ships that attacked the planet were clear indications of that. He felt so betrayed, while he had come here for peace, the Federals *obviously* prepared for war.

What's more, they had struck first. And when the smoke and battle-fog cleared, everyone on that research station was dead, including his beloved wife.

Strauss tried to drown himself in alcohol, but fate wouldn't let him die yet. One of his guards called in, the Iuthians were raiding his quarters. Meh. He didn't care. It's not like they'd find anything of intrest. Unless they enjoyed 3d realistic holo-putie.

So Strauss continued to drink, but no matter how much he drank, it couldn't erase or even ease the pain he was feeling inside.

OOC: Nevermind, I fucked up OOC... I'll have to go through with it now.

OOC: You may want to note that I still feel shit and that I'm being pushed to move this thing so it would be better if you don't abuse this less I make an issue out of it.

I may have posted this at 2am in the morning during a head cold but my forces are supposed to be good at this crap...

Oh yeah, there is no back door Austar Union, you are in a space station, not a building. The only way out of your room is out of the door into the corridor full of some of the most heavily trained soldiers in Iuthia and with enough survailance to point you out the minute you leave.

Thanks for also noting how I bungled it up... nevermind that I'm ill and that am being pressurised to move the thread along right? Thanks for your understanding.

Meanwhile, Central Facehuggeria... you should know better, you wanted me to post. I would appreciate a edit if you don't mind as I clearly meant the other guy.

OOC: Sorry Iuthia. You have no rush to reply. I just thought this would be an interesting piece... :S

Given that Strauss had been talking to the man the Iuthian authorities knew to be a terrorist now they had decided to go with the flow of their mistake, though it was clear that Strauss wouldn't be their either.

They decided to leave the room alone and signal the other team to assualt the room they had meant to raid... the man would be prepared for them now but they knew for a fact that Dr. Erindolf didn't register any weapons and had been submitted to scanning to assure them there wasn't any hidden weapons. It would take a very devious weapon to get past those scans, but the idea wasn't ruled out that they may have a Central Facehuggerian weapon or a exspensive hidden weapon, but the odds of that we're low.

Never the less team two took no chances... they simply made a point of rushing the quarters with their armoured arms prepared to deflect oncoming shots as the carapace was designed to be larger around the arms to make crude shields.

"Get down on the floor now!" They shouted, pretty much exactly as the other team had done.

Strauss himself was in for a different form of apprehension, seeing as he is mildly involved with the terrorist who has taken the place of the Austar Union delegate it couldn't be ruled out that he may be involved... however he was a diplomat unlike the terrorist now being assaulted and even if evidence somehow proved a link it would be up to the Central Facehuggerian authorities to deal with and for Iuthian Authorities to remove him from the conference.

Instead of a group of Black Vipers coming to take Strauss away, Ambassidor Kayla Harmone and two Iuthian Guards walked up to him in a meaningful yet peaceful manner.

"Ambassidor Strauss, could you come with us please, we would like to ask you some questions about the delegate from Austar Union, in private if we may... it's a matter of diplomatic importance and we need your cooperation in this." Kayla asked, getting to the point.

Dr. Erindolf jumped up as the Iuthian Security teams burst into his room. Responding accordingly, he threw himself to the floor, and surrendered himself. Putting his hands behind his back, and waited to be arrested.

He knew he was in trouble.

With care the squad leader moved in to bind the mens hands together behind him while the others covered him. Thankfully the man didn't resist and clearly had no intention of doing anything stupid. With the binds on the men carefully lifted him and escorted him to the stations jail for further questioning later.

Strauss said "Sure" in a dazed and drunken voice, right before he tried and failed to get up. He simply fell over.

"I'm not as think as you drunk I am!" he said before standing up, somewhat uncertainly. He proceeded to follow the Iuthian security team.

OOC: Ok, first I would like to apologise for my lack of effort into this thread recently, in part I have been sick over the last couple of weaks, probably as a result of my LARP session and all that camp food, but that held of the thread conciderably as well as creating some large mistakes on my part, the worse being mistaking the room I raided, which will probably come and bite me in the ass later.

But recently I've had no excuse for not posting even if I am limited to 56k modem for a while... I guess I wrote myself into a hole and I couldn't think of a good way out and now I'm going to do what I should of done a while ago.

Please note I will try and finish this thread now, if I post less then once a day anyone has the right to PM me, TM me or bump this thread and slap me around for it... I'm going to work this to the end and get my part done. I know this will probably end in at least one war, though I can hope it wont.

So this post will be the start of the process again... once I'm done with "business" here I will have everyone sleep and then we'll get back to the conference itself... which will not have any more breaks. If I don't have everyone important posting I'll deal with the ones that are and then contacts others if I want to sort something out...

Lets get this done and sorry I didn't get this done sooner...


IC:

Central Facehuggeria: It didn't take long for the team to escort the mildly drunk Ambassidor to the diplomatic centre on the station, it was the sections office designed so that each of the representatives could raise issues with the diplomats of Iuthia if they had any trouble or wanted to leave early... however, this time it was being used to ask the Ambassidor some questions in a legitimate diplomatic fashion, they couldn't afford to arrest him and he had diplomatic immunity... though while the law didn't apply to him, his actions represented his entire nation so looking bad would cost more in the long run.

Along the way the man stumbled a little, his balance hindered by his drunken state, but the guards made sure to give him lots of room and help him if he asked for it... however they didn't support him unless he gave them permission as it could be taken the wrong way and the situation was delicate.

"Here we are Ambassidor Strauss, Ambassidor Harmone is waiting through that door for you. You may enter now." The soldier opened the door for Strauss, who didn't seem any less drunk, but he did seem to change stance to give a more professional view... he was an experience man drunk or otherwise.

"Ahh... Ambassidor, would you like to take a seat or would you prefer to stand up?" Kayla simple sat behind a rather simple and plain desk, wearing the same white dress she wore before, however she made a point of looking serious despite her attire. She gave Strauss the time to chose his stance as she continued, getting to the point quickly.

"I'm sorry to intrude on your break from the conference Ambassidor, but I would like to inform you that we have soem disturbing news regarding the investigation we asked you if we could conduct. We've rulled out Fedral Union involvement and come to the conclusion that none of the delegate could have planted the device before or during your arrival... the surveillance footage of the corridor proves that the only people to have been inside your room are our own security staff doing their own checks and your own people.

"We've ruled out that our people could have been infiltrated due to the personel in question, who I read are Black Vipers with the Iuthian military, many of whom are trained from a young age after adoption... their loyalty is unquestioned.

"We've also ruled out any matter transmission due to our security system and our own inspections prior to your arrival... if an attempt was to be made it would have to be after that inspection and matter transmission was out of the question.

In anycase... our conclusion is that your own people may be compromised."

Kayla then shifted her papers as she left the information to sink into the man before continuing... "We have also arrested the Austar Union representative... their government warned us that the real representative was intercepted and replaced by the man, the fact their security checks missed this astonishes us but never the less the fact remains that he was a terrorist. He is now in our custody undergoing interrogation, we feel he may have been sent to attempt to damage the process... however, the investigation continues..."


Austar Union: In the lower depths of the space station lays the moderately sized cell block for the station, it only has about half a dozen cells itself but it proved to be rather well built despite it's place in a space station... the Iuthians prefered effiency over style and if they had to have a small brig it was going to do the job no matter the inhabitant.

Taking the terrorist down to the cells seemed to be a rather simple task in itself, he seemed to compy and with many of them armed with automatic shotguns it was a wise choice... not to mention they had cuffed him at the back.

Upon arrival of the joint he was taken straight into interrogation... oddly enough with Iuthia being below the station they could legally get away with a few more things, but the Black Vipers were professionals and didn't lay a hand on him unless he made it a requirement. They remained respectful, in a sense, through-out the process.

As first they tried a more convention striaght question approach, see if he wanted to talk and see what the could gain for the later process coming up... but for now they just took notes if he talked at all.*

After this process had happened, and it took at least a little time to be content with the process, they would try and varify the results be confusing him with drugs such as Sodium Pentathol... a much longer process which would take time and effort, it was a rarity in Iuthia and it was something which would hopefully not become to public, as they professionally started to extract what information they could from him using the information they had and the mans altered state...
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Meanwhile, the Iuthian Diplomatic Corps had concidered their course of action from the scandal being reveals about the Austar Union representative being found to be a dangerous terrorist... the implications were astounding as the man had serious powers as a diplomatic representative, the kind of powers that if misused could start wars, assasinate important officials and cause untold amounts of damage to a peace effort.

The incident was a nightmare and as such the decision had been made. Until addition security measures can be taken to assure that this incident can never happen again they would expell all Austar Union diplomats within a set period of time to be thoroughly background checked while security is improved...

To: Austar Union Foriegn Minister
From: Iuthian Diplomatic Corp, Central Command, Iuthia Prima, Iuthia
Subject: New Security Measures
Message:

Dear Foriegn Ministery of Austar Union,

We wish to inform you that as of now we are taking steps to secure ourselves from the latest security threat to our nation as recently highlighted by the incident on our scaffolding station during the peace conference where a man representing your nation was found, thankfully by your own people, to be a dangerous terrorist.

Due to the dire security implications of such an incident we cannot be sure that all this incident will not happen again due to lack of effective security measures within the Austar Union.

While relations have not been damaged directly a degree of trust has been lost which will need to be fixed in order for your embassies to operate properly... as such we ask that your nation either pull out all diplomatic staff during such an improvement, or face changes in policy regarding Austar Union diplomatic staff in the future until the problem is rectified.

We hope you are willing to help us regain our trust of your diplomats within our nation as they do good work,

Thanks,

Foreign Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps.


* OOC: I don't know if he's going to talk so feel free to RP either way... I'm not looking for much unless you really feel like it, basically I don't care if he talks but it would be nice. I'm also hoping the drugs should be effective as it's damn hard to get past that stuff...

Additional Note: Reguarding the incident itself, I feel that it cannot be a fault of the Iuthian security because I was not asked before hand that I could screw up a security check of a incoming delegate... as such I'm RPing as though we have confidence it's not our flaw.

Dr. Erindolf was a smart man. He wouldnt give out his true identity, as it would merely be suicidal, considering the price on his head. However, he did admit to implications of being a terrorist.

It didnt take long for the drugs to kick in, and soon he was completely uncoucious, dreaming of escape most likely, which was probably near impossible considering the Iuthian security around him. That, and his state of uncounciousness.

Anyhow, back in the Austar Union, they had recieved the transmission. Accepting their point of view, the diplomatic team in Iuthia prepared for a temporary leave. They had been informed, that a inquiry into the incident had been ordered, and that relevant measures would be taken so that the event would not happen again. This would include a full background check for all diplomats, and a rise of security, to ensure their safety during travel and stays.

All representatives are informed that due to special circumstances talks will commence tomorrow at 10am Iuthian Standard, giving them time to rest and sleep during our period of organising the situation.

Basically put, we'll get back to the conference soon, but I want to resolve somethings.

Strauss sobered up in an instant. He couldn't believe that his own men were responsible. Why, he had known those boys for years. "I...I've known those boys for years, they would never do something like this! I shall summon them."

And then Strauss took a moment to think about the AU delegate. "But...He seemeed so devoted to the peace process."

Kayla responded in a calm, cold voice. "That as it may be Ambassidor, the only logical explaination to us is that your men, or perhaps even yourself, as much as I doubt that, planted the device in order to incriminate the Fedral Union... we won't accept that it's our own men, though we are willing to open up the evidence for others to see, including access to question the men responcable for checking the rooms prior to this event...

As it stands, it seems that you have a dilema... the investigation has ruled out all possibities and impossibilities to the most probable answer that your own men planted the device in order to deceive you... we doubt you yourself would attempt such a ploy and they only need to convince you. So on one hand you have the investigation back up with evidence, or you can ignore the investigation and claim that Iuthia is spying on you... in which case your relations with Iuthia will suffer as we will have to surmise that you never had any intentions of coming to peace."

Kayla looked a little concerned for the moment, it was clear that the Ambassidor didn't trust them... you didn't need to be a diplomat to work that out. So this appoach was something of a gamble and it would give her some inkling of whether this man is prepared to commit to peace and diplomacy.

"What if I can tell you that we have paid far more attention to your demands then the child-leader Robert and as we understand them they are not completely unreasonable... with the correct wording and some balancing we can give you your demands and maybe talk the man into understand that you aren't asking much.

We support the notion of less weapons of mass destruction, we support a way of enforcing the Fedral Union remains peaceful, with the exception of attacking against them directly of course... we want them to reform, but if they are at war then they will remain the same people you hate. We have a chance to change them and I'd rather that isn't ruined."

There was a knock at the door. "Come on in. Two Iuthian security guards entered the room with some of the Central Facehuggerian Bodygaurd following them, the ambassidors men had arrived and the Iuthian security detail remained.

OOC: I'm going to tie this in with another RP i'm doing if that'll be ok! If not, I'll delete this post and copy the important parts.

Ambassador Hannity was in her room when the messege came in.

"About time we get back to this. I was beginning to worry if this conference was for naught" Hannity said as she looked over the messege.

Greg, who was reading a flash messege from home, looked up with a look of disbelief. "I'm afraid there maybe something a tad more important than this conference."

"What is that Greg?"

"We had a terror attack at the Airport killing thousands and wounding more."

"Are they recalling me?"

"No. The messege I have here mentions the attack in detail but says that what you are doing is just as important. Stay and assist in the peace process. That is what the messege says." He rummaged through another folder and pulled a second messege. "This I was told to give to you." He smiled softly. "Your orders from your mother."

"Thanks Greg. I'm going to my bedroom for abit." She walks to her bedroom and starts to laugh silently as she lays on the bed and pulls out a tiara from a hidden compartment in her suitcase. "Soon now, my family will be back on the thrown." She muttered. She puts it on her head and admires herself in the mirror. She went to the table and opens up the second messege. After reading it, she calls Greg in. "Greg?" When he entered, he bowed alittle to her. "You need to contact some of the other delegates. We're going to need help with what we are doing."

"Yes your highness. I know just who to contact in the appropriate governments. I'll get on this right away."

"Thanks Greg. Your the best." After Greg left, she wants again smiles to herself. She puts the tiara back into the hidden compartment and lays her head down and takes a nap.

OOC: Anyone can say they received this messege. I just don't feel like writing it. If you have questions, either telegram me or contact me on station. If you do contact me on station, make VAGUE references to the messege. Thanks.

John and Erica breathed a sigh of relief when the received the messege that the conference will resume.

"This is good. I thought for awhile there that this conference was over and that we would be going back home." John said.

"Agreed darlin. Hopefully peace can still be achieved. Its going to be a tough road but I am confident that it CAN be achieved."

"Central Facehuggeria and Auster Union are not negiotating and we all know that. It was more of dictating. I would never sign an agreement that dictates unless it was surrendering we never have surrendered. If they think that they can get away with that, they are sadly mistaken."

"I know. But remember. This agreement, all sides must live with it. That is why it needs to be acceptable to all sides."

At that moment, an aide came in with a messege from homeworld. "Sir this was intercepted by our ship." He handed him the messege.

John and Erica looked it over. "Is this all the messege?"

"Yes sir. This is all we have. What are you going to do?"

"None of your business right now Alex. I'll let you know. Dismissed."

With that he left and looked at his fiance. "What do you think?"

"You need to sleep on it. I'm going to the other bedroom."

John snorted as they headed off to their respective bedrooms.

OOC: You may RP it, but it's more of a incident with no connection to this event so it's unlikely you will get anymore then some condolances for your losses... you know "Sorry to here about x terror incident" kind of thing.

OOC: Sorry, I didn't see this. Let's just say that Master Masaki is quietly being the calm of the storm. What's up so far?

OOC: Basically we are in a break period and will be starting again tomorrow and everyone is aware that the peace talks between CF and TFU are not getting anywhere... beyond that it's down to incidents most people don't know about.

The AU representative has been arrested for terrorism... however it's not public knowledge yet. AU's government permited the arrest because he's not an actual diplomat so he lost his immunity.

And CF has been taken away for a private word regarding a previous security issue they raised, again, that isn't public knowledge.

Formal Dances has recently had a terrorist attack on their nation, that is public knowledge in the station but it doesn't affect the talks themselves.

We will commence the talks tomorrow (IC) or basically when I finish business with my leads. Feel free to RP your people resting in the recreational facilities, talking privately to others or don't RP them at all, it's up to you.

Strauss looked at the first bodyguard, Levis, directly in the eye. "I want you to recall exactly what you were doing last night. Down to each and every last detail...And boy, I'll know if you're lying. Don't insult me by trying."

OOC: I actually planned for this eventuality when I OOCly decided to plant the bug. :D

Also, Corneilu, if you're refering to MY transmisison, you should OOCly know that it is extremely well encrypted. Even if you do manage to decrypt it in time, it won't exactly show anything you're side is going to like. It hasn't been edited in any way. It appears in every single way to be genuine. :) There is a reason for that coming up later.

Of course, if you were refering to another transmission, then I stand corrected. :D

((I can't RP your men, or if they are truthful or not, and I'm sure you have your ways around it but meh, I'll deal with it when I hit that snag... but whatever the case we'll have to see. I can think of one good way but I doubt you'll take that one, so we'll see.

You don't have to RP all of the report your men give, just indicate the answer at the very least...

And Corneilu, I would have to agree with Central Facehuggeria, it's his communication so it's his rules... you will have to argue with him if you want to have the information now, but I won't accept an intercept and decryption unless CF is ok with it... it's is surposed to be secret and I diplomats expect spies to try and find out the messages, even if we garentee they wont (which I didn't because I can't make that promise of others)))

((I can't RP your men, or if they are truthful or not, and I'm sure you have your ways around it but meh, I'll deal with it when I hit that snag... but whatever the case we'll have to see. I can think of one good way but I doubt you'll take that one, so we'll see.


OOC: I know. It's just that I was too tired last night to actually write up a more complete post. And after I reveal my snag, I'm going to want you to tell me what your one good way was, now that you've piqued my curiousity.

An IC post is pending.

Strauss looked at the first bodyguard, Levis, directly in the eye. "I want you to recall exactly what you were doing last night. Down to each and every last detail...And boy, I'll know if you're lying. Don't insult me by trying."

OOC: I actually planned for this eventuality when I OOCly decided to plant the bug. :D

Also, Corneilu, if you're refering to MY transmisison, you should OOCly know that it is extremely well encrypted. Even if you do manage to decrypt it in time, it won't exactly show anything you're side is going to like. It hasn't been edited in any way. It appears in every single way to be genuine. :) There is a reason for that coming up later.

Of course, if you were refering to another transmission, then I stand corrected. :D

OOC: I believe it was mine! My encryption isn't that hard to break obviously.

edit: IC:

Greg sent out the messege

To various governments
From underground monarchy

We are in the process of restoring our queen to her rightfull place
We are going to need help when the fighting starts
All nations are welcome to help

Signed
Aide to Her Royal Highness

OCC2: This is so all is clarified

Bump. I couldn't post today due to work, but I'll try and post tommorow.

I have a nasty feeling this thread is dead...

I have a nasty feeling this thread is dead...

Actually... it's waiting on you. But meh...

OOC: I was actually hoping for some character interactions (or at least other IC posts!!!) before I did the questioning.

But meh.

IC: Strauss looked at the young trooper with somewhat slitlike eyes. It was obvious he was angry. "Levis...I have one question for you. Did you place the bug?"

Levis replied "N...no sir! I did not! Why in god's name would I? For that matter, where would I get it?" It was obvious he didn't know anything about the bug. That left the other guard, Tanis.

Strauss turned to Tanis and regarded him even more coldly than Levis. Tanis was comparatively new, and Strauss didn't know him as well. "Tanis, I want you to tell me everything you remember about last night."

Tanis replied, in perfect calmness, "Not too much. I scanned the room with my emissions detector, and found the bug hiding in the plant. That's that. I...I..."

Tanis had begun clutching his head. Strauss asked the rather obvious question; "Are you alright son?"

This merely solicited a reply of groans from Tanis.

Through gasps, Tanis spoke in a ragged tone "I...was...Captured...Fed *cough!* eral Telepath, some sor *spasm* psionic programming. Didn't mean to...so sorry...couldn't stop myself..."

Tanis' died moments later, his brain literally frying from the inside out.

Meanwhile, at home, the Deupty Furher drank a good martini and reflected. It had been an excellent ploy, making the poor man belive it was a federal union agent who abducted him, instilled psionic programming in him. And the self-termination conditioning. That was pure genius. It genuniely looked as though TFU had gotten one of Strauss' soldiers to plant the bug.

And since the man wore his mind-shield as soon as he left the diplomatic transport, nobody could telepathically scan him to discover where the programming had come from.

And since Central Facehuggeria had no *known* telepaths of any power, it obviously couldn't be the CF government who was responsible. In fact, it had taken two high level psi-ops troops a week, using psionic amplifiers to get it right. But they had.

Heh, you complain that I'm holding up the RP, but when I actually post, nobody is here, eh?

Heh, you complain that I'm holding up the RP, but when I actually post, nobody is here, eh?

[OOC: Damnit, you give me what, 10 hours before bitching about that? I've hardly had enough chance to keep up with other RP interests and social life. Everyone else, as far as I know, is waiting for the next day IC . They have RPed their people talking but the conference is on hold.

Now give me some time, I'll answer you and then we get go to the next day IC... even if your delegate were to go home now, I could talk things out between the few remaining people with other concerns by telegraming them back into the thread.]


Kayla simply watched the man, his eyes betraying his distress at his own actions, it was clear he wasn't lying, at least, not to his knowledge. Whatever the truth was it became more apparent to Kayla that getting down to the real answers... and more importantly, getting the Central Facehugarian delegate to agree to any form of peace was becoming more and more complicated, well beyond Iuthian expertise.

Their knowledge of the Central Facehugarian psi-capabilities were pretty much none existant... proving the man to be wrong wouldn't be possible, however the circumstances were fishy to say the least. Not to mention the time spent with the terrorist masquerading as an Austar Union delegate.

As the man finished giving his report, Kayla signalled for the Iuthian gaurds to take the two away so that she could finish up in private with ambassidor Struass.

"Well, that confirms our suspicions regarding where the bug came from, but we are afriad that the rest will have to be something your own people will have to judge independantly... however due to the circumstances I would ask that a neutral party with some understand of...err... 'psi' can observe and maybe take part in any future investigations.

"As for the implications... well, personally I would imagine that if you can program a man to forget that he'd been influenced I'm sure it can be done on many layers too, as of yet I don't see this as TFU guilt, which is why we suggested that your people investigate this further."

Kayla shugged... this was getting to be out of her league, however she needed to wrap things up as tomorrow is probably going to be a long day.

"Tomorrow I'm going to proposition that TFU takes on your demands so we can close this up... as I said they are no unreasonable if worded correctly and I would like to thing everyone here is interested in getting this over with.

"I hope I can count on your support, regardless of what this incident seems to suggest it can come later, for now we should really be looking to avoid another bloody war."

[OOC: Damnit, you give me what, 10 hours before bitching about that? I've hardly had enough chance to keep up with other RP interests and social life. Everyone else, as far as I know, is waiting for the next day IC . They have RPed their people talking but the conference is on hold.

Now give me some time, I'll answer you and then we get go to the next day IC... even if your delegate were to go home now, I could talk things out between the few remaining people with other concerns by telegraming them back into the thread.]

I'm impatient, so sue me. You have all the time in the world.