NationStates Jolt Archive


To The Whittier Pact.

Sevaris
26-07-2004, 12:40
I am need of your aid. The Imperialist agressors (Kahta, Chellis, Itinerate Tree Dweller, etc,) are blockading me and intend to invade soon. I have already gathered many allies to aid me- and I was hoping you could come help. This is the battle of existence- the Imperialists must be stopped here- or else they'll smash the whole world into slavery.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris
Camewot
26-07-2004, 12:41
The Victoria Alliance is ready Sevaris!
Sevaris
26-07-2004, 12:42
Thank you. Your aid is greatly appreciated. I am trying to get other alliances involved as well.
Kelonian States
26-07-2004, 13:07
Though we're not a significant part of any real alliance, we wish to make it known you have our full support should you wish to call on it.

That is all.
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 13:12
I will discuss tonight with the alliance.

OOC: can't rp now, I am pissed off cuase I found out why I was really deleted.
Doujin
26-07-2004, 13:57
I will discuss tonight with the alliance.

OOC: can't rp now, I am pissed off cuase I found out why I was really deleted.

Ok, so why were you really deleted?
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 14:05
Ok, so why were you really deleted?
cause some a holes got offended that my nation posted a sarcastic remark about american troops invading some european nation, england to be exact
and they went and had a heart seizure
and certain people didn't agree with my opinions and didn't want me to be able to post them in general.
like that one fool, Shaed, I just told him off.
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 14:07
OOC: what makes america better than europe?
we have religious freedom and they don't
they ban you from praying in public, or carrying crosses in public.
and if you say something they don't agree with, they deleat you
that is why I am already putting together a senate campaign together, been working on it since April.
I am going to make sure that religion don't get banned from public places in America
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 14:09
Well I'll Be F**cked! That Is An Outrage!
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 14:10
Well I'll Be F**cked! That Is An Outrage!
you're telling me.
well, they don't want me around here, in a few months they'll get wish.
I'm going to the mideast somewhere, don't know where exactly but just know that general area of the world
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 14:12
I am need of your aid. The Imperialist agressors (Kahta, Chellis, Itinerate Tree Dweller, etc,) are blockading me and intend to invade soon. I have already gathered many allies to aid me- and I was hoping you could come help. This is the battle of existence- the Imperialists must be stopped here- or else they'll smash the whole world into slavery.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris
Chellis doesn't recognize me, cause I am using the stats from my old nation.
Hallad
26-07-2004, 14:24
Ditto. Did you appeal for the decision to be repealed?
DontPissUsOff
26-07-2004, 14:27
I should bloody hope so. Failing that I think a petition wouldn't go amiss.
Whittier-
26-07-2004, 14:44
No. its not worth cause my unit is deploying sometime between august and jan. so even if it is brought back, it will still be auto deleted for inactivity due to me being deployed.
i don't know the exact time, we just got orders to be ready to go at a moment's notice. don't know where but supposedly in the mideast area.
Doujin
26-07-2004, 14:57
Whitter is still the 2002 nation here. What a fucking ridiculous reason to delete someone.

Oh BS, I don't believe that is the "real reason" why he was deleted. Sorry.
Kelonian States
26-07-2004, 14:59
Even so, you should do it just for the principle.
If they got you deleted because they were angry at you posting an anti-American comment, aren't they aware that's anti-American too? Haven't they heard of the First Amendment? The right to freedom of speech?
Being deleted for an offhand comment is just pathetic.

Even if it would only be until you were deployed, I would still appeal to get the decision repealed - it's the principle of the thing that matters here. (For the record, it might not be much as I'm barely a minor player, but you're still the 2002 nation here, too - I've always respected you as a player and I think it's absolutely pathetic to delete you for such a trivial remark).
The Most Glorious Hack
26-07-2004, 15:06
This is a role-play forum, not Moderation or General. Back on track, please.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 00:57
Oh BS, I don't believe that is the "real reason" why he was deleted. Sorry.
OOC: you can believe what you want. Religious freedom. But just because you believe something does not make true. Neither does not believing something not make it true.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 00:59
Even so, you should do it just for the principle.
If they got you deleted because they were angry at you posting an anti-American comment, aren't they aware that's anti-American too? Haven't they heard of the First Amendment? The right to freedom of speech?
Being deleted for an offhand comment is just pathetic.

Even if it would only be until you were deployed, I would still appeal to get the decision repealed - it's the principle of the thing that matters here. (For the record, it might not be much as I'm barely a minor player, but you're still the 2002 nation here, too - I've always respected you as a player and I think it's absolutely pathetic to delete you for such a trivial remark).
I didn't make an antiamerican remark. It was an anti athiest remark I was deleted for.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 00:59
I am need of your aid. The Imperialist agressors (Kahta, Chellis, Itinerate Tree Dweller, etc,) are blockading me and intend to invade soon. I have already gathered many allies to aid me- and I was hoping you could come help. This is the battle of existence- the Imperialists must be stopped here- or else they'll smash the whole world into slavery.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris
Find out which one is not ignoring me and I'll rp helping you.
Communist Mississippi
27-07-2004, 01:03
OOC: what makes america better than europe?
we have religious freedom and they don't
they ban you from praying in public, or carrying crosses in public.
and if you say something they don't agree with, they deleat you
that is why I am already putting together a senate campaign together, been working on it since April.
I am going to make sure that religion don't get banned from public places in America


Whoa, you got railroaded, bad. That's awful.
The Wickit Klownz
27-07-2004, 01:20
I say we should just gather all narrow-minded dumbasses, stuff them in a room, and toss in a grenade... but then there'll only be around 1,000 people left in America...

I have friends in all religions (I'm Christian, btw, though not a normal one), and I can honestly say I see no anger towards my religion or me when they criticize it(though there may be), because that is their opinion, and i have mine.

You see, that's supposed to be the good thing about America. You can live there, hate it, love it, or whatever, and they cant do a damned thing cuz you have rights to free speech. In America, you are able to comment on anything you wish, as long as your comment is not slander or decieving.

In this case, seeing as how the internet has no laws for free speech, you must be more careful. But, when you think about it, what is the internet other than a network of communication devices to aid you in your quest to tell everyone why youre oh-so better than them and whats wrong with them.

END OF STORY:
People need to accept that everything has faults and that others will always be there to point them out.
The Wickit Klownz
27-07-2004, 01:22
ooc: HOLY HELL!! THAT WAS A REALLY LONG RAMBLE!!
Communist Mississippi
27-07-2004, 01:23
You see, that's supposed to be the good thing about America. You can live there, hate it, love it,

.



I say "America, love it or leave it." And someday hopefully we'll be in a position to kick all the traitors and cowards out. Someday.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 01:40
I say we should just gather all narrow-minded dumbasses, stuff them in a room, and toss in a grenade... but then there'll only be around 1,000 people left in America...

I have friends in all religions (I'm Christian, btw, though not a normal one), and I can honestly say I see no anger towards my religion or me when they criticize it(though there may be), because that is their opinion, and i have mine.

You see, that's supposed to be the good thing about America. You can live there, hate it, love it, or whatever, and they cant do a damned thing cuz you have rights to free speech. In America, you are able to comment on anything you wish, as long as your comment is not slander or decieving.

In this case, seeing as how the internet has no laws for free speech, you must be more careful. But, when you think about it, what is the internet other than a network of communication devices to aid you in your quest to tell everyone why youre oh-so better than them and whats wrong with them.

END OF STORY:
People need to accept that everything has faults and that others will always be there to point them out.
I strongly agree with you.
The Parthians
27-07-2004, 01:51
I say "America, love it or leave it." And someday hopefully we'll be in a position to kick all the traitors and cowards out. Someday.


In many ways I agree with you. America is the best nation on Earth, only here are you given true freedom of speech. If you don't like this freedom then get out and never return.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 01:54
We need to get back to the rp. Just waiting for this fellow to respond.
The Wickit Klownz
27-07-2004, 02:07
the part where you became the mods' pet dog, which mindlessly agrees with everything they say...... Congratulations, youre the kind of person that, if told to walk outside by soldiers with guns, you'll give up without a fight because you fear them... youre the kind of person that is the only reason genocide is possible.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
27-07-2004, 02:08
only here are you given true freedom of speech.

When's the last time you were called before a Democratic Assembly to express your views, and something was done about it? And surely your ideas about 'free speech' are contradictory as telling people to leave for views that don't tie in with Conservative rhetoric is a prime example of restricting free speech.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 02:10
When's the last time you were called before a Democratic Assembly to express your views, and something was done about it?
just before I joined the army.
Whittier-
27-07-2004, 02:11
Can we get back to the rp please.
Canan
27-07-2004, 02:12
Unless ya'll stop, this thread will get deleted. And if anyone complains about me kissing ass, then they can piss off.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
29-07-2004, 03:07
There never was a war, just a stand off that came very close to going hot. The issue has since been resolved, ITD has removed its military forces and has dropped embargoes.

I encourage everyone here to support the dpuo treaty.
Axis Nova
29-07-2004, 04:26
The situation WOULD be resolved, except Chellis is still apparently trying to provoke a war.

Axis Nova
Whittier-
29-07-2004, 04:28
The situation WOULD be resolved, except Chellis is still apparently trying to provoke a war.

Axis Nova
If there is war, the alliance will defend Sevaris.
Axis Nova
29-07-2004, 05:15
As will Axis Nova. If Chellis thinks he can chew Axis Nova up and spit it out, he will find that we are a most indigestible meal indeed.

Axis Nova
Chellis
29-07-2004, 05:17
As will Axis Nova. If Chellis thinks he can chew Axis Nova up and spit it out, he will find that we are a most indigestible meal indeed.

Axis Nova

AN, I am so close to ignoring you. You keep using OOC knowledge to say I Bombed the vatican, and thats the only contact you have had with me, so it pretty much is what you base your anger towards me on.
Scolopendra
29-07-2004, 05:43
Straight facts--

Whittier was warned to not make flamebaiting and trolling threads. He continued to do so after asserting he wasn't the person doing it. Thus he was deleted. Politics hardly entered into it--in fact, the moderators involved would tend to agree with the statements Whitter provided as the "reason" (extremely fallaciously, although I will err on the side of optimism and say he is mistaken rather than lying) for his deletion.

There has been the assertion that someone else was using his account--trivial. We have no way to confirm that, and everyone is responsible for his or her own account. This is why we have always stressed operational security. Just as one is responsible for visitors they may bring to a social function associated with their workplace or school, account holders are responsible for visitors using their accounts. Klamath-style excuses of "it wasn't me" or "I was drunk/tired/stoned" simply will not do.

Of course, I don't expect this to change anyone's mind--everyone believes what they want to; if they want to think of the moderators as evil, oppressing on the mere basis of sociopolitical opinion (despite our widely varied and highly opinionated backgrounds), then they will think that matter what.

That is all that will be said on the matter. That being said, if people choose to ignore Whittier for maintaining he has a three billion population when that account has ceased to exist, that is their discretion. Likewise, people can choose to accept that assertion at their discretion.

Scolopendra
Senior Game Moderator
Whittier-
29-07-2004, 05:54
Straight facts--

Whittier was warned to not make flamebaiting and trolling threads. He continued to do so after asserting he wasn't the person doing it. Thus he was deleted. Politics hardly entered into it--in fact, the moderators involved would tend to agree with the statements Whitter provided as the "reason" (extremely fallaciously, although I will err on the side of optimism and say he is mistaken rather than lying) for his deletion.

There has been the assertion that someone else was using his account--trivial. We have no way to confirm that, and everyone is responsible for his or her own account. This is why we have always stressed operational security. Just as one is responsible for visitors they may bring to a social function associated with their workplace or school, account holders are responsible for visitors using their accounts. Klamath-style excuses of "it wasn't me" or "I was drunk/tired/stoned" simply will not do.

Of course, I don't expect this to change anyone's mind--everyone believes what they want to; if they want to think of the moderators as evil, oppressing on the mere basis of sociopolitical opinion (despite our widely varied and highly opinionated backgrounds), then they will think that matter what.

That is all that will be said on the matter. That being said, if people choose to ignore Whittier for maintaining he has a three billion population when that account has ceased to exist, that is their discretion. Likewise, people can choose to accept that assertion at their discretion.

Scolopendra
Senior Game Moderator

you have been tgd.
Ravea
29-07-2004, 05:57
Back to the Rp.......Ravea, although not a member of any alliance, would like to aid you.
Ravea
01-08-2004, 21:29
As in Sevaris, not the Whittier Pact.
Chellis
01-08-2004, 23:09
The war was averted
Sevaris
02-08-2004, 00:47
The war was averted. I caved in to demands made by a certain country- (cough*CHELLIS*cough).
The Wickit Klownz
02-08-2004, 00:52
Yes, Chellis is quite....